for the Sonnes of men And being made perfect 2. For the second he was made the author of eternall salvation is not that cleare also to be a further and distinct businesse are not the words plain And being made made perfect he became or was made the author of eternall salvation to them that obey him As he is the procurer He. 2.12 so he is the doner and giver of it John 1.12 and 6.14 and 17.2 And this saying eternall salvation unto all them that obey him doth impart that which Scriptures else where sheweth some salvation fore-wrought and vouchsafed that men might obey him in receite and exceptation whereof men doe obey him and in neglect and refusall or disobedience to him wherein also will appeare a distinction of salvation it selfe considerable if the sayings of the Scripture it selfe be heeded and believed which sheweth us 1. That Jesus Christ himselfe in his own body as the second publick man having in the nature of all mankind and for them dyed for our sinnes and risen for our justification and in the same nature being ascended exalted and filled with all fulnesse of grace 1 Pet. 2.24 Rom. 4.25 Hath so saved out nature in himselfe that all or any of that nature comming to him may and in union with him shall partake thereof Rom. 5.18 1 John 5.11 12. And he using meanes to that end that men might seek and come to him John 1.4 5 7 10.11 Pro. 8 4 9. Hee indeed is and truly so called The salvation and Gods salvation to the ends of the earth Acts 13 26. Isay 40.6 Gods salvation which he hath prepared before the face of all people A light to lighten c. Luke 2 30 31 32. A horne of salvation Luke 1.69 And I believe this is a true and a reall salvation and eternall and compleat in him before it be made known and the making known of him is the making known of salvation and that for remission of sinnes also though many receive it not Luke 1.77 79. Acts 13.38 39 And is not here a salvation a prepared salvation a salvation made known and set before men larger and farre more then have enjoyed it 2. The word that sets forth Jesus Christ the Sonne of God and saviour of the world and what he is hath done and doth in Heaven for us and is ready to bestow one all that doe believe and so calleth them and tendereth grace to them on believing It is called the word of salvation Acts 13.23 26 30 And they that neglect it are said to neglect great salvation Heb. 2.3 And is not here salvation even in the tender before and larger then the receipt and enjoyment 3. The extention and reaching forth of mercies to men Psal 145.8 9. as the persecution of their lives and so giving space for repentance Acts 17 27 28. 2 Pet. 3.9 Rev. 3.21 the preservation of the other creatures that they might serve for the good of mankind Mat. 5.45 Psal 36 5 6 7. and blessing these to men for the good and welfare of men in this life Acts 14.17 and all this extended through the Propitiation Christ hath made and ransome he hath given for men in which mercy and truth are so met that God without violation of truth and justice may shew mercy to sinners Psal 85.10.11 And he is not only good to all in that his mercy is over all his workes but also he is righteous in all his waies Psal 145.17 and so all these mercies are testimonies of his goodnesse Psal 19.1.6 Rom. 10.18 Acts 14.17 and that to lead to repentance and seeking of him Acts 17.27 28. Rom. 2.4 much more the word and Gospell where it comes discovering Christ which also is that all to whom it comes might believe Iohn 1.4 7 still further where his spirit comes in thâ— meanes striving with men Gen. 6.3 these with all the preservations and deliverances inlightenings and motions leading from any evill towards God as they come from and through a salvation effected in our nature by and in Christ and as they are witnesses of that salvation and come to lead to it that in receiving of it men might be saved so they are indeed and that truly called salvation or saving Exod. 14 13. Psal 144.10 and 36.6 7. Yea the Holy Ghost wils us to account that the long suffering of God is salvation 2 Pet 3.15 and thus in these respects he is the Saviour of al men 1 Tim. 4.10 Yea the salvation in Christ and love of God there-through appearing in all these fore mensioning mercies or saving or salvations doth come to men to call to reprove and so to allure to come to Christ The salvation of God and such as for love of other things doe refuse and come nor in are said truly to forsake their own mercies Iona 2.8 loose their own soules Mat. 16.24 Deny their right and lawfull Lord that bought them refusing his counsell and so bring upon themselve swift distruction 2 Pet 1.2 and are even for that cause given over to Satan and distruction not because he had not bought them but because they denyed him that bought them not because he had not loved them nor shewed love in doing good for them and to them but because they have been adversaries to him for his love and rewarded him evill for good and hatred for his love Psal 209.4 5. not because God sent not his Sonne that they might be saved and that Christ shed no blood for them nor extended meanes there through to them not any motions of spirit therein but because they have troden under foot the Sonne of God and counted the blood of the Covenant wherewith they were sanctifyed an unholy thing and have done despite to the spirit of grace Heb. 10.29 not because there were no truth in Christ for them nor love of the truth to them nor willingnesse and power in that love to save them nor it extended to them but because they received not the love of his truth that they might be saved 2 Thes 2.10 12. But held the truth in unrighteousnesse Rom. 1.18 Not because their was no propitiation made for them nor meanes used to purge them But because he purged them and they were not purged Ezek. 24.13 Not because he would not nor sought there returne But because they would not harken to his councell they would none of him Ezek. 33.11 Psal 18.11 Prov. 1.24 30. John 5.40 Mat. 23.37 no nor simply and absolutly in the first place because they could not But because when light came and power removing the yoake of the Jewes They regarded not his light and power that would have enabled them But loved darknesse rather and so were given up and then could not Hos 11.3 4. John 3.19 Rom. 1.18 28. now can any say he had no salvation in himselfe for them nor extended any to them and was no Saviour of them surely none can say so truly But they were rebellious and disobedient to him and
the sense there testified and by Mr. Garner and Mr. Knowles called our Corrupt sense But now I will note the wayes hee hath taken to overturne it and that shall serve for answer even the noting his waies which are THE THIRD PART I. TO confound things that are distinct and so to turne all into a confusion by denying the distinctions the Holy Ghost useth that so he may walke in the darke cast a mist on the Scripture and not be espied but this is shown and refuted in this Tract before though hee use it all the way II. By altering phrases and termes of expressions in the sayings he opposeth this also is already showne though it be still after done by him so that in opposing such expressions he fights with his own shaddow as he injures me in altering my exprssions III. Slandering me and others of the same faith with me setting me forth to hold that which all my Treatise he opposeth is against and that other of the discourse of the precious blood of Christ and all the distinctions maintained against his opposition is against as that I have resolved on the question that all persons ought to beleeve that all their sinnes past present and to come are pardoned so he saith page 140. surely I am not so neere to this as his many expressions in his Booke sheweth him to be I doe not beleeve that God or Christ doth so dispense pardone into the consciences of Beleevers in such termes while they are in their warfare for their faith to receive it in such an apprehension it 's crosse to that in John 13.10 and 1 John 1.7 again page 141. That I determine that all mens sinnes as they were imputed to Christ are not pardoned in Christ that is there is not pardone in Christ for them as a truth to be preached to and beleeved by all which is in very deed his own opinion but crosse to all my sayings Again page 142. That I affirme that nothing is required of any to make them partakers of remission of sinnes but only faith to beleeve the report of the Gospell and that I make faith to consist in a bare assent to the truth of the Gospell and divers other here and there in his book which any that read mine but with halfe an eye may see to be so grosly false that one may wonder that the Father of lyes should prevaile so far with such a man But no wonder that in opposing the truth he be left to walke in the same steps with those that have formerly so done nor can he say he did not mean me for he includes me all the way and so directs his reader to take it page 21 26 30 108. surely these three former waies are sinfull evill and injurious carnall weapons IV. He passeth by all that is said by me in all the quoted Scriptures to show the sense to be as the words import showing the same from the very words in the text and the coherence with the verses fore going and following and other Scriptures speaking of like things A subtill and uneven way bewrayeth conscience of weaknesse to answer though stiffnesse of will to oppose V. He pretends to hold it unsafe and unwarrantable to take all expressions in Scripture as simple undepending expressions c. and professeth to consider well there dependency page 3.32 and yet hath not done so but himselfe hath flown from that close keeping to the dependency of one word and place and thing with the other that were with it and before and after it and places speaking of the same things which is done in the Treatise he opposeth yea he hath taken dependant words as independant that he might make a private and independant interpretation of them as the word for in 2 Cor. 5.14 the word Tast Heb. 2.9 the word taketh away John 2.29 the word Love John 3.16 and divers others as shall after be evinced and who can free this from malice so intimately to charge others and from guile to goe from his own profession VI. He flies some times to the originall as if he would cleave to the text page 41 42. and in Heb. 2.9 saith that it is according to the Greek word to be translated pro omnibus non pro omni oh how may wee that are no Schollers be cheated by such great Clerks what a difference is here between all and every between all of the nature of man all mankind for that is the nature in which he was made lower then the Angels and every singular man true it is our former translation in Heb. 2.9 is all and so is the Romists translation for all and so Mr. Beza translates it pro omnibus which is put in English for all men but none of them so presumptuous to ad non pro omni nor is there any such words in the text he might have put it in a parrenthesis but greater Clerks then Mr. Garner say verrily the Greek word is in the singular number and so is most rightly and properly translated pro omni every singular man and so our last translation which Mr. Garner slanderously reproves with his own pro-omni is the word right and proper in that word every man and he is not sincere in his profession of cleaving to the text he doth not make use of it as he conceives he may colourably wrest it to his private opinion for before this page 41. 42. he informes page 16 17 18 19 20. takes words in Rom. 5.18 judgement came and the free gift came which are not in the originall at all nor in the former or latter translation nor in Bezars translation neither in Latine nor in English nor in Remists translation only some translators put them in in a different Charracter from the text some Judgement came and the free gift came some the fault and some sinne came and some good and some the benefit abounded but all give them according to their conception to supply the sense of other words and note them not to be the text but this man brings them as the text and then comments and builds on them to make good his private opinion oh how little regarded he the originall here or text in translation either But as he did this before his pretence of cleaving to the originall so after you shall find him more grosly abusing the words and sayings of the holy Ghost which of such as beleeve and receive the love of the truth are esteemed understood beleeved accepted and retained not as the words of men that may have failings and subtilties and want fulnes of truth and force but as they are indeed and in truth the word of God which effectually worketh in them that beleeve 1 Thes 2.13 and is by them kept John 14.23 24. his sayings have no wreathednesse or falsehood but being all true and right Prov. 8.7 8. and 22 21. yea the very words so to be accepted Eccls 12.10 But this man will first say his words
Gospell this was not so known before now what was their inheritance what was their body how did they partake of the promise did not the Word Oracles Covenants and services of God belonging to them and to their children Rom. 3.2 9.4 5. Acts 2. was not in their body Israel and the Israel of God the outward and the inward Church had not they heires in hopefulnesse and heires indeed were not their Infants discipled I conceive They that know the Gospell and this mystery well would not deny the Infants of profest Beleevers to be received into the Church by Baptisme with water nor renounce that to take up another And it yet seems strange to me that any of the same saith and Judgement with me in the Gospell should be of the same opinion and practise with him about the Ordinance of Baptisme But I love them in the truth we beleeve not the lesse nor shall shrink from witnessing it because he hath joyned me in his Treatise with them nor like his cause the better And in answering thus farre his whole Treatise is answered and in the Treatise he opposeth particular answers may be found at large which I will not again transcribe Mr. Lambs Reasons abide and are so weakly answered that more then is said need not be said and if it were M. Den or he I question not have or wil do it only this I say by such waies and dealings with the Scripture as he hath gon in if it were received any heresie may be countenanced and all the grounds of Religion denyed and Paganisme or Athisme ushered in give but way under pretence of unvailing Mysteries to deny the sayings of the Scripture to have the sense they import for another sense by other words to be brought in and whether then may one be drawn from one to another till they come to nothing wherefore my desire is that all men would heed the Scripture and take heed to the plain sayings of the Gospell and suffer the Grace of God appearing therein to reprove and take us off from every folly and to inamour our hearts with God and Christ and so carry us to live by faith and walke in love as the Gospell of Christ directeth us And know that Gospell is true and good in all it saith and that of for or to every one Oh far be it that any called Christians should make the Gospell of Christ like the Lottaries of some men in which are more blancks then prizes and where men must cast faith at an adventure and such as declare it sound it before all not knowing to whom it belongs let it light where it will nor as Mr. Garner that sets forth such and so many workes of the Spirit in a man to know Christ dyed for for him and must call on men first to forsake vain confidence and turne from their evill waies and then beleeve and saith no propitiation no life that is perfect in Christ for men til by believing it be in them yet unsayeth again and cryeth down every thing in a man to be as a preparation to beleeve In which he doth well but his doctrine affords no ground of faith without it For upon what ground should any man forsake vain confidences and evill wayes and then beleeve if there be nothing true in Christ for him before he beleeve surely if this be not a sandy or aiery foundation no other can be so But know that the Gospell is good newes for to every one to whom it comes which could not be howglorious soever if not true and true it will be found to all so as if they doe not receive it and suffer it to save them it will be their judge and send them without excuse to condemnation whence even such as refuse the tender are willed to be sure the Kingdome of God was come nigh to them and that the word they refused to suffer to save them shal judge them Luke 10.5.11 John 12.47.50 Thes 2.10.11 12. Wherefore take heed that none of us refuse to receive the love of the truth that wee may be saved but attend and yeeld there-too and be not deceived God will not be mocked nor suffer Mr. Garners Mysterious deceits though approved by Mr. Knowles to keep or withdraw us from beleefe and obedience to the Gospell and sayings of Christ And so I for beare any farther following him in any farther discovery of his errours absurdities and slanders only intreating God for the sake of Christ to give both him and mee and every of us more light and understanding in and hearts more submitted to the truth of God in Christ that so we may rightly speake it and walke in it and so prayeth his friend and the friend of all that love the truth though differences in some circumstances be found in expressions or walkings Thomas Moore A REPLY TO Mr. T.W. HIS pretended Confutation of T. M. THAT there was value and worth enough in Christs death in regard of the sufficiency and excellency of the price for the redeeming all men in the world is granted on all hands saith Mr. T. W. He hath fairely granted if fairely expressed for it is in the expression doubtfull to my understanding in what sense hee takes Christ his Death whether simply for the Act of his Dying as some of his after-sayings page 4. l. 3. last and else-where give occasion to thinke he doth But the Holy Spirit by the Apostle tels us If Christ bee not Risen beleevers are yet in their sins faith vaine preaching the Gospell vaine c. 1 Cor. 15.14.17 or whetherhe meane it of the vertue of his blood Dying or Death as he is risen just and ascended to heaven with the vertue of that his own blood having by the eternall Spirit offered himselfe a spotlesse Sacrifice to God and obtained eternall redemption Heb. 9.12.14 And if he take in all this as I suppose he will exclude no part thereof And though all this be oft encluded in the expression of Christs Death Rom. 5.10 Blood Rev. 1.5 Ransome 1 Tim. 2.6 Sacrifice Heb. 9.26 Yet I suppose in our blessed Saviours acting of these he will allow Distinctions considerable betweene Christ his Dying and Rising and Ascending and offering himselfe a Sacrifice Though our faith without any separation looke at and receive all as one But the questions here to bee answered for right understanding his meaning are first with whom Christ had to deale with God or with men I yet suppose he will confesse that in acting all this hee had to deale with God and that he in all this gave the ransome offered the Sacrifie to God and made the Atonement with God 1 Tim. 2.5.6 Secondly For whom Christ did this and presented his Death and offered his Sacrifice to God and I am loath to conceive otherwise of him but that he will confesse it was for men though he answer in speaking of his dying or laying downe his life pag. 64. l. 30. That redemption
AN VNCOVERING OF MYSTERIOVS DECEITS BY WHICH MANY ARE KEPT FROM REPENTANCE AND entring the doore of Life In a Reply to M. Garners opposition of Truth stiled Vnvailing of Mysteries With Addition of A Reply to Mr. Thomas Whitfeild his Treatise with a three-fold Title BY THOMAS MOORE JOHN 5.39 Search the Scriptures for in them yee thinke yee have eternall life and they are they which testifie of mee Saith Christ Whose sayings are all True and Right LONDON Printed in the yeare 1647. CHRISTIAN READER BEing once in conference with Mr. Robert Garner that should have been about the lawfulnesse or unlawfulnesse of Baptizing Infants I desired the foundation of all might be first discoursed concerning Jesus Christ whether hee were the Propitiation for the sins of the whole world or no which took up our time without agreement then I yeelded him to wave that And if he would either set downe 1. What the Ordinance not the forme or materials but this ordinance of Baptisme is 2. Vpon what grounds to be administred 3. To what end and then set downe his position of the unlawfulnesse of baptising the infants of the Church And I would answer him or if he required I would answer the three questions and set down my position of the lawfulnesse of baptising the infants of the Church or profest Christians But more of him in this I heard not till I met with his book in which he hath fallen on the foundation endevouring to darken it and confute with his pen what he could not with his tongue and therein hath been pleased to joyne two brethren of his own judgement and practise about Baptisme with me thinking his friends will take it that he answers one in answering the other and so confutes both when he confutes neither the men I reverence and love and esteeme gracious and in many things before my selfe but I suppose if they did believe and hold the foundation in respect of the extent of it as I doe they would not count unlawfull the baptising of such infants as by gracious providence are brought into the charge tuition of Christians to bring up for Christ as I hope all Christians take their little ones to be But far be it from me to judge my Brethren that doe or leave undone to the Lord and for the Lord in maner of using an ordinance what have I to do to judge the servants of my Lord and Master to his own master he standeth or falleth but answer I may when they call me to it only for the truth of the Gospel and the plain sayings of Christ and against that which opposeth the same and so cals Christ execrable in opinion or practise do I contend and so far should I contend against the denying baptising infants or renouncing that Baptisme then received to take another and still love those I contend with yea as brethren so farre as they exalt Christ But the opposition of the truth of Christs own words in the Gospell and the faith thereof I cannot look at as done to the Lord in any better maner then Saul thought in his conscience he was bound to do many things against the Name of Christ Therfore meeting with a book of Mr. Garners with a glorious title opposing all the way the truth of the sayings of Christ I have been notwithstanding my love and reverence of the man and his parts the more plain and rough in discovering or uncovering those Mysterious Deceits covered over with acknowledgement of some parts of truth and pretence of unvailing Mysteries which I had no sooner done but there was sent me from London a Book of one Mr. Tho. Whitfeilds some yeares since a Minister in Northampton-shire and a Lecturer as they say also at Stamford and since as himselfe saith at Yarmouth and now I suppose againe in Northampton shire nigh Rutland who pretended an examination of my Booke which either he did very sleightly or answered very unfaithfully and mistaking or flying my sayings framed other supposing to answer me in Answering Arminius To whom for all that concerneth my Book my Answers to Mr. Garner do fully answer yet I have afforded a small reply to him that he may not thinke himself sleighted nor adored only I am sorry for the sake of Ministers profest Divines that so grave a one should publish Arminianisme with such weake and unsavoury confutations after such sound and learned ones â—xiant And yet more that hee should maintaine an opinion to condemne his practice for would he from place to place stand Minister over a people not being sure Christ Dyed for them all or would he receive wages for work of such for whom he hath no certaine ground that there is a possibility of his Ministry to be profitable to them or will he baptise any for whom Christ hath not Dyed or eate the Lords Supper with such will he 〈◊〉 an uncertain and be as one that beats the aire far be it doth not this if it should be so give occasion to others to speake evill of such Ministry Baptisme and Communion Surely for those of M. Whitfeilds mind being conscionable I marvell not they run into Mr. Garners opinion and practise As for my self seeing neither of them have granted those Christian requests in my Epistle before that Book nor can oppose but by confounding what the Scripture makes distinct and running to reasonings and wresting Scripture sayings I am still more confirmed and finding the quintescence of all oppositions I have met with to bee in Mr. Garners Booke I have resolved to let this Reply be for Answer to all till I meet with those that discourse more soundly not doubting but there are that may helpe me still with better expressions in mean time I have writ this to prevent many from being discouraged and turned aside from Christ desiring the Lord to make us of one mind in him as the Truth is in Jesus And so rest Thy servant in and for Christ THOMAS MOORE AN VNCOVERING OF MYSTERIOVS DECEITS BY which many are kept from repentance and entring the doore of life THE FIRST PART THis very Distinction in considering the redemption by Jesus Christ as it is wrought effected and prepared by himself with God for men And as by Spirit hee makes it knowne and there-through draweth men to himselfe and workes it in men affirming the one perfect and before the other and larger then the other is exeeding faulted by some Advarsaries of the truth of the extent of these sayings Joh. 3.17 God sent not his Son into the world to coÌ„demn the world but that the world through him might be saved Joh. 4.42 The Christ the Saviour of the world 1 Joh. 4.14 The Father hath sent the Son the Saviour of the world Ioh. 12.47 I came not to judge the world but to save the world 1 Cor. 5.15 He dyed for All 1 Tim. 2.6 Gave himselfe a ransome for all 1 Jo. 22. And is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world This
hand of Godalive for evermore by vertue of his Sacrifice mediating for men with God his father so removing and taking away from before his face that ignorance unbeleife and rebellion of men that might justly procure the with holding all streames of mercy from them and the present giving them up to a reprobate scence and to Satan and so destroying them with his sorest judgements that still through Christ they are preserved alive patience mercies meanes and some light and motions of spirit are extended to lead them to repentance Rom. 3.10.22 and 2.4 Col. 1.18 20. Psal 75.3 And to those that through his grace are brought in by repentance and faith to Christ to take of their following evills to cleanse and purifie them to conformity with himselfe and to bring them to his inheritance 1 Iohn 1.7 Eph. 5.25 26 27. Heb. 9.14.15 but to proceed a little further and consider something in this businesse shadowed or typed in the Iewish high Priest and in a sort Priests and Levites also who was to beare the names and also the judgement of the Children of Israel upon his heart Exod. 28.29 30. To beare the iniquity of the Congregation to make an attonement for them before the Lord Yea the offerings fore offered were given them to eate before the Lord Levit. 10.17 Yea to beare the iniquity of the Sanctuary and to keep the charge of the Lord Numb 18.1.4 And to doe the service of the Tabernacle and so not the Children of Jsrael But they to beare the iniquity of the Children of Jsrael Numb 18.22 23. Now what bearing this was is to be considered Was it that the high Priest and Priests should have the sinnes of the people imputed to them and that they should be counted sinners for or in stead of the people and suffer the punishment the people should have suffered that so the people might have an escape I beleeve no such matter and yet it was thus with Jesus Christ when he was made flesh for us But sure there is another understanding of their bearing the peoples iniquity and judgement and yet nothing is therein shadowed but what in the truth of it is found in Jesus Christ our great high Priest also if translators of as great skill in the Hebrew as Mr Garner in the Greeke may be trusted they say the word to beare Lev. 10.17 is to beare or take away and that the Greek translateth it that yee should take away but whether they be credited or not doe not the word themselves give forth such a sense Num. 18.22.23 Neither must the children of Israel henceforth come nigh the Tabernacle of the congregation lest they beare sinne and dye but the Levits shall doe the service of the Tabernacle of the congregation and they shall beare their inquity It shall be a staiute for ever Now I pray what bearing of iniquity was this but a taking away of their iniquity by ministring about and ordering the holy things burning incense offering the Sacrifices c. which the people were not betrusted to doe that they might have Gods Ordinances and presence therein and mercies c. continued to them And how should the high Priest upon his heart beare the judgement of the children of Israel before the Lord continually Exod. 28.30 but in tender compassion and love to them and care for them so to minister in their behalfe c. And now is not the truth of all this found in our Lord Jesus Christ the great high Priest is not he the minister of the Sanctuary or holy things and of the true Tabernacle c. Heb. 8.2 the perfumer of his peoples prayers services Are any left to approach to God or do any thing in their own strength or name Is not all that is born of the flesh flesh John 3.6 shall not all flesh wither Isay 40.7.8 And is not Jesus Christ our high Priest full of love compassion and faithfulnesse Heb. 3.2 and 4.15 and 5.25 and is not he the Mediator between God and man 1 Tim. 2.5 and the advocate of beleevers 1 John 1.1 and is he not able to save them to the utmost that come to God by him or as in this Heb. 9.28 that looke waite for or expect him seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them Now the Apostle treating of the high Priest-hood of Christ and mentioning types in this chapter and shewing the truth of all to be in Christ where shall we find the truth of these things typed that have been mentioned about the Scape-Goat the Priest bearing or taking away the sinnes and judgements of the people in those respects fore-mentioned if not in the 26 this 28. verses and so I charge not M. Garners sense here with falsehood but imperfection I fault him not for saying the death of Christ and his offering as it is for propitiation and ransome is heerment but for his putting in only and so limmiting it to that only where as it appeares plainly by the whole chapter here is more ment But now I will veiw his second affirmation It is not in such generall words as the world all men c. for which veiw the words againe Heb. 9.28 So Christ was once offered to beare the sinnes of many and unto them that look for him shall he appeare the second time without sinne unto salvation mind it saith he and so I pray let us it is not said he was once offered to beare the sinnes of many and he shall appear the second time to them or to those many without sinne unto salvation But unto them that looke and waite for him as a speciall culled out of the generall and is not many here then as generall a word as the world of mankind or all men Let us a little mind the word many as it is here used and see Enough is shewed in the opposed Treatise chapter 3. page 22. chapter 8. page 48. and chapter 14. page 76 if compared together that is not at all answered by him And though the word many in divers places have a twofold sense one larger and another more speciall and in such places I did not parralell it with such generall words as all men every man when spoken in the largest sense yet in some sort and respect I did and do Rom. 5.15 through the offence of one many be dead and verse 19. By one mans disobedience many were made sinners And is not many here all and every man that had being by propogation from Adam Psal 29.3 The voice of the Lord upon many waters are not the waters peoples multitudes Nations and tongues Rev. 17,15 now doth not his Kingdome rule over all Psal 103.19 and 66 7. and 119.89.91 and is not many here as generall a word as the world or all men Micah 4.3 He shall judge among many people surely whatever be in the first fruits when this is compleatly fulfilled It will as large as that in Mat. 25.32 c. and is
nature though clearly delivered as is clear 1 Joh. 3.1.2 3. with Col. 3.3 4. the sayings themselves are a light so called 2 Pet. 1.19 4 Hee saith not that the sayings or the hardnesse of the things in the sayings did lead any to erre no sure if they had become fooles in themselves and beleeved the sayings and attended on God therein they should have had as much knowledge of the things as was meet for them in due season John 8.31 32. Prov. 8 9. But they not beleeving the truth of the sayings because of some things in them beyond their conception they did wrest them to bring them to their own conception and so hurt themselves 5. Hee faith not that all men or gracious men but only such 1. As were unlearned not spiritually inlightened and taught of God and so had not the faith and feare of God ruling in their hearts John 6 44 45. 2 Cor. 2.9 15. 2. Unstable such as did not abide in that which was plainly testified in the Gospell and which also they are at some time perswaded to beleeve John 2.24 3. And did wrest all the other Scriptures to their own destruction they did not so magnifie the love of God in speaking in the Gospell with words of plainnesse and truth for them to understand but tooke his sayings as the speeches of a Barbarian and so they beleeved not the sayings in their own plain repoit for in so beleeving or speaking they had not erred Mat. 2.5 6. But they did wrest mangle adde too or take from frame absurdities raise their own consequences and then make glosses and so wrested the Scripture to their own destruction so that all this rather holdeth forth the plainnesse of the beginning of the Gospell And if it be replyed that Christ spake many things in partables Mat. 13.3 Answer is it is true he did so and yet he spake the beginning of the Gospell clearly John 3.15 19. and the partables expounded to his Disciples are now left upon record for us and so that to us can be no sufficient plea Mat. 13. and Luke 8. But though he did speak many things in parrables before his death and resurrection yet he left in charge with his Disciples to whom he promised and after his ascension did send forth his spirit to teach them all he had said to them Iohn 14.26 that what he told them in darknesse they should speak in the light and what they heard in the eare that to preach on the house tops Mat. 10.17 and is not this given as a reason that the knowledge given them is a light set on a candle-stick that they that enter in may see the light Luke 8.10 16. And have not the Apostles professed to have kept this charge to have used great plainnes of speech not to put a vail over their face 2 Cor. 3.12 13. and to have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty not walking in craftinesse nor handling the word of God deceitfully but by manifestation of the truth commending themselves to every mans conscience in the sight of God 2 Cor. 4.2 and to write none other thing then those to whom they writ did read 2 Cor. 1.13 and so as when they read they might understand their knowledge c. Ephes 3.4 protested before God the things they writ they did not lye Gal. 1.11 20. And shall wee be such fools then to be cheated and drawn from the beleefe of the plain sayings of the spirit in the Gospell by unbeleeving intimations of difficulty to preferre mens painted fancies farre be it VIII He runs most upon reasoning and frameth reasons to find and conclude impossibilities of truth absurdities untruths and contradictions of truth even in the plain sayings of the Holy Ghost page 25 47 111 159 and 172. And so hovers about a text to fashion it for himselfe before he dare meddle with it the particular reasons I shall deale with in answer of his senses forced on many words and his latter conclusions only note this here this is not the way of faith or of a beleever nor yet the way to faith it beseemes Hethens and Pagons for their religion and not Christians It beseems us what ever our Lord hath said to beleeve it true right and good though it be a bove the reach of our reason and not to goe reasoning and inferring and so seek to have reason first satisfied and then beleeve But to beleeve first that reason may be subdued in beleeving till when it cannot be rightly satisfied about the truth and goodnesse of divine things seeing it is naturally an enemy to God Rom. 8.6.7 and must be subdued 1 Cor. 1.18.19.20 and such as have striven to have reason first satisfied have turned from the truth John 6.29 to 66. and this is the way by which the writers of Divinity and Phylosophy dissected have denied the creation and beginning of the world the drowning of the world severall actions of Christ and the resurrection of the body after death they conceit they see so many impossibilities of truth in the sayings so many absurdities and contradictions and they pretend discoveries of mysteries in which they affirm all true so denying the whole foundation of Religion Oh reason unsubdued Oh wisdome of the flesh what an enemy art thou to God I am sorry to see a man of such eminencie so swayed by thee IX He compareth the sayings of God concerning Christ and his workes by him with the sayings of his servants touching men yea and of others also as page 63. not to equalize only the world and all men in their sayings in the largenesse of the extent which yet were too much to equall man with God but to limmit the extent of those words in the sayings of God to the extent in the sayings of men which is very evill and dishonourable to God Isay 40.12 18. and contrary to our expresse rule Heb. 2.8 1 Cor 15.27 from Psalme 8.6 with Iohn 1.2 3 12. Though Mr. Garner hath done this hiddenly X. He limmiteth generall sayings of the spirit for propositions for faith to applicatory sayings of Beleevers by the spirit in profession of faith yea and maketh those applicatory sayings in confession of faith to be the true interpretors and oppeners of the largenesse of the extent of the generall sayings for propositions for faith pages 60 61 68. And by the same way of interpretation there is as much force every way to deny that God created every man because it is said of Israel one God hath created us Mal. 2.20 that all men have sinned because it is said of Israel we have sinned and committed iniquity Dan. 9.5 and of beleevers in many things wee offend all Iames 3.2 That all must dye because it is said of Israel wee must needs dye 2 Sam. 14.14 that all shall be raised because speaking of the Jewes it is said many c. Dan. 12.2 and that all shall come to judgement because it is said in speaking to
beleevers every one of us shall give an account of himselfe to God Rom. 14.11 12. and wee must all appoare before the judgement seate of Christ 2 Cor. 5.10 And is not this a most dangerous and perrillous way of expounding Scripture As it is more largely shown both in the Epistle and Book of the opposed Treatise which if he could not answer he might have taken warning not to have run into such snares XI He plainly and in expresse termes denyeth the Gospell and word of God to be the Gospell and word of God in that he denyeth that doctrine and Gospell and those sayings to be there which are expresly there intimating as if he had some other un written verity or Gospell which with him is the Gospell and it is not there and all in this written Gospell must be brought to that 1. Whereas the Apostle speaking of those men that must all appear before the judgement seate of Christ that every one may receive the things done in his body according to that he hath done in his body whether it be good or bad 2 Cor. 5 10. sutable to that John 5 19. and of his knowledge of the terrour of the Lord which will in that judgement be against them that would not submit to but deny the Lord that bought them and on that ground did perswade men Though his heart and spirit was manifested unto God and in beleevers verse 11. yet he preached to others also that judged evill of him and then tels them what constrained him even the love of Christ and on what ground even because we thus judge that if one dyed for all then all dyed or were dead and then affirmes it possitively with one end of his death and that he dyed for all that c. verse 14 15. and after an exposition how to take the word All when God speakes of Christ and his workes in and through Christ he saith that he by the grace of God might tast death for every man Heb. 2 9. and speaking even of unbeleevers also he saith he gave himselfe a ransome for all 2 Tim. 2.1 6. And another Apostle in an opposition between beleevers and unbeleevers saith He is the propitiation for the sins of the whole world 1 Joh. 2 2. yet this man saith that to affirme of Christ that he hath wrought a peace or reconciliation in himselfe with God for all men that it might be declared for them to beleeve and to affirme Christ dyed for all men he finds no where in the Gospell nay that is more moderate then that which followes for he goeth further page 188. It is not agreeable to the Scriptures and to preach it is not to preach the Gospell of Christ but somthing which men sure he must mean such as the Carpenter the Sonne of Mary Peter the fisher Paul the Tent-maker have added to the Gospel of Jesus Christ p. 177 he saith determinatively that this doctrin of Christ suffering for al men his phrase is persons is not the doctrin of Jesus Christ nor the subject matter of the Gospel nor is there such a thing found in the Gospell nor in any part of the word of God and then he addes rightly understood And must not that understāding be according to some unwritten Gospell to cloath this with to be adored which in its own cloathing is denied and made vile by him page 176. 2. Whereas the Gospell is glad tydings of a redemption and peace and life and so good will to be declared that in beleeving men might receive it and glad tidings and a word of truth it can be to none for whom there is nothing in truth prepared And the Gospell our Saviour so preaching John 3 16 17. and 12 47 45. commanded his disciples to preach to every creature speaking of the world of mankind as Iohn 1.3 4 5 7 9. Mat. 28.19 Mar. 16.15 and they so preached the Gospell 2 Cor. 5.19 and him the Sonne of God the Saviour of the world 1 Iohn 4 14 and many have so beleeved and confessed Iohn 4.42 He plainly denyeth all this and sayeth expresly page 133. That neither Christ nor the Apostles did so teach nor that he required them so to teach and though they declared peace to whatsoever house they came that was but ministeriall as if in ministry they told lyes page 136. nor saith he did any of the Saints so beleeve So that the written Gospell with him is no Gospell no word of God understood according to its own sayings but according to some unwritten verity of his which he calls the right understanding of it 3. Whereas the Scripture in the Gospell setteth forth God to be the Saviour of all men 1 Tim. 4.10 and that his mercies are over all his workes Psalme 145.8 9. and that it is through Christ that these mercies are extended Psalme 75.3 Iohn 1.3 4 5 9. Col. 1.18 and that these mercies are witnesses of his goodnesse Acts 14.17 and fruites of love kindnesse and mercy Mat. 5.44 48. Luke 6.32 to 36. and come to lead men to repentance Rom. 2.4 and to the Gospell that they might beleeve and when men harden their hearts and will not be brought to submit to and beleeve on him he chargeth them to hold the truth in unrighteousnesse Rom. 1.18 To be adversaries to him for his love to have rewarded him evill for good and hatred for his love Psalme 109.4.5 and that which was for their wel-fare to be turned into a trap Psalme 69.22 beside that said Psal 36.5 6 7. Yet would he have assaid to deny the enjoyment of any mercies any benefit yea as a benefit though outward by any unbeleever through Christ page 148 149. but because he is in this moderate and saith it is not cleare to him which I beleeve because he beleeveth not that for them through which it is procured and saith if he mistake in this or any other thing he is willing to be informed The Lord preserve in him and me such a heart and then wee shall not deny the sayings of Scripture XII But that he may not be said wholly and altogether to deny all the sayings of the Gospell he doth acknowledge some parts and sayings of truth and presse the same to hide and deny other parts of truth as the worke Jesus Christ worketh in men by spirituall application of his blood to deny the compleatnesse of that he hath wrought in himselfe with God for men His reconciling men to God by spirituall application of his blood to deny his reconciliation wrought with God in presenting the vertue of his blood in sacrifice offered to God his redeeming men out of the world to God to deny his purchasing men of God the eternall life given in Christ to deny the life of the world given by Christ as is seen throughout his Treatise And usuall waies of such as are witty and subtil not only in points of faith that they may the more fairely deny one for that
belonged to Paul not as a man but as an elect vessell A secret indeed no where as redemption was effected by Christ in his owne body set forth in the Scripture which tels us That all are by nature dead in trespasses and sins under sin c. without difference Rom. 3. Eph. 2. And that Christ dyed for the ungodly and unjust and for our sinnes and surely men are ungodly and unjust and sinners as they are men and not as they are elect vessels Rom. 3 10-20 But that it was for men is evident 2 Cor. 5.11.14 15. 1 Tim. 2.5 6. Thirdly for what Christ thus gave himselfe to God whether for this that for and upon this very gift men should be at peace with God one with him and God now without any more done take all sinne out of them or from off them and so all punishments and deaths and fill them with eternall life embracing them as sons in his delightfull love or whether it was for this that for and upon that very gift Jesus Christ might have the dispose and be the Lord of all Rom. 14.9 Psal 2.7.9 And be the Saviour of the world 1 John 4.14 Isa 49.6 And the propitiation for the sinnes of the whole world Ioh. 2 2. And be filled with authority power and spirit to preserve men and creatures for their use and to use means and send forth spirit in the means to move men to repent and seek the Lord Matth. 28.18 Phil. 2.8 9 10. Psal 75.3 68.18 Rom. 2.4 And to be the Judge of all to absolve all that by his grace in the meanes are prevailed with to beleeve on him Mat. 9.6 Act. 10.43 And to condemne such as hold the truth in unrighteousnesse and so persist in their impenitencie unbeliefe and rebellion Ioh. 1.18 19. Psal 68 18-21 And that being thus made perfect he should be the Author of eternall salvation to all that obey him Hebr. 5 8 9. And throw into a second death all that rebelled against him their right and lawfull Lord that bought them and abolished the first death for them 2 Pet. 2.1 2 Tim. 1.10 With the Devils also for that they usurped to deceive and draw men to rebell against his government Now whether of these wayes Mr. T. W. will answer this question Charity bids me make no resolution because if he should answer the former way as his writing gives occasion to suspect then I know no full or plaine sentence of Scripture to expresse or countenance his Answer with nor can Iunderstand how he can free his saying from charging God with injustice for receiving a sufficient price and detaining that for which it was given in suffering such as by such saying ought to be freed still to be born under guilt and defilement of sinne and to remaine many dayes under the power the darknesse and sinne and Satan and afflicted with punishments and death nor can I see how he will avoyd derogating from the great mediation and exercise of the High priest hood of Jesus Christ which Scripture shews to be at the Right hand of God and by vertue of his Death and Sacrifice offered to God wherefore I will not so conceive of his meaning but if he Answer in the latter though it be with more apt and fit expressions then hee granteth all that T. M. hath laboured to maintaine for how else will he understand the sufficiency of the death of Christ wee are not questioning what is the sufficiency of God the Creator as Creator The Death Resurrection and Sacrifice of Christ is certainly a creature though such as in which the Creator is yet as Christ is the first borne of every creature The first borne from the dead the second man made a quickning Spirit so all this in him a new creation now how there should be a sufficiency in any created being though possessed with God for redeeming any for which there neither is nor ever was any intention or will of the Creator I cannot understand indeed if he had said it might have been sufficient if God had so willed I might and would have spared this given another Answer But he plainly confesseth There was value and worth in Christs Death in regard of the sufficiency and excellency of it for the redeeming al the men in the world And if there was such value and worth for sufficiency in it It is so in it still compare John 1.4.5 with 1 Ioh. 1.1 2 3. The Word of the Lord endureth for ever I say 40 8. 1 Pet. 1.24 25. And we are to follow those the end of whose doctrine and conversation is to set forth Iesus Christ The same yesterday and to day and for ever Heb. 13 8. And so whosoever misse it is for not receiving the tenders of it in the meanes Prov. 1.23 24 c. So that Mr. T. W. in this saying hath secretly granted that which he openly opposeth but yet he saith whether Christ in Gods intention and his owne performance so payed a ransome for all and every particular man as thereby to make satisfaction and procure reconciliation with God for them is the thing in question This T. M. undertakes to prove saith Mr. T. W. He meanes not that T. M. goeth about to prove that this is the thing in question that rests for himself to prove But that T. M. undertakes to prove this thing that is in question but he should either have put downe T. M. his owne expressions or else not after have slandered him p. 3. l. 5 6 7. saying That Christ entended to reconcile all men to God by the reconciliation wrought in his body with God for men which saith he are Tho. Moore his owne words but as hee hath annexed them they are Mr. Tho. Whitfeild his owne surmises And therefore seeing he hath not set downe the question either as Doctor Davenant did To which I yeelded in my Booke nor as I there expressed it nor kept close in his Treatise in answering to that hee expresseth as mine I must a little open the businesse before I yeeld him this to be mine And so I confesse my selfe to conceive that I understand and beleeve that in the beginning God made one man a living soule and that he made him righteous and a publike man Gen. 1.26.27 1 Cor. 15.45 That he made them superiour and inferiour male and female fit for encrease by generation and called their name Adam 1 Tim. 2.13 Gen. 1.27 5.2 And that God at the first created all men in his creation of this man and made all men righteous in making this man righteous Eccles 7 29. So as what this Adam was in his publique place in which he then stood all men were in him for he was all men and what God adorned and furnished him withall he did it in him to all men And the oportunity of eating of the Tree of Life with the charge not to eat of the tree of Knowledge of good and evill and affirmation of