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A64635 Certain discourses, viz. of Babylon (Rev. 18. 4.) being the present See of Rome (with a sermon of Bishop Bedels upon the same words) of laying on of hands (Heb. 6. 2.) to be an ordained ministry, of the old form of words in ordination, of a set form of prayer : each being the judgment of the late Arch-bishop of Armagh, and Primate of Ireland / published and enlarged by Nicholas Bernard ... : unto which is added a character of Bishop Bedel, and an answer to Mr. Pierces fifth letter concerning the late Primate. Ussher, James, 1581-1656.; Bedell, William, 1571-1642.; Bernard, Nicholas, d. 1661. 1659 (1659) Wing U161; ESTC R10033 109,687 392

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This Doctrine I know not how it can offend any unless it be in being too Charitable that I am sure is a good fault and serves well for a sure mark of Christs sheep And hath very good opportunity to help Christs people out of Babel by this saith he shall men know that ye are my Disciples if ye have Charitie one to another But they call us Hereticks miscreants Doggs c. and persecute us with more deadly hatred then Jewes and Turks yea this is Babylon and perhaps some of Gods People in it that are misinformed of us Thus did Saul for a while yet a chosen vessel to bear Christs Name over the world But let us maintain our Charitie to them as we are wont to bear with the weakness of our friends or children when in hot Fevers or Plurisies they miscal us Let us remember if they be Christs people how little loving soever they be to us they must be our beloved Brethren and this of the Persons Now let us see their dutie It is the Du●tie of those people of Christ to come out of Babylon that is as we have already shewed the Obedience of the present Roman Monarchy And for this the very authority of Christs Voyce from Heaven should suffice For his sheep hear his voice But if that be yet doubted whether the Papal Monarchy be Babylon let us for the present set aside the mystical Arguments from this place and all other Prophetical Circumstances And let the matter be tried by plainer Arguments at the Bar of Reason out of the common Principles of Christian Doctrine as thus Where the use of Christs Word is forbidden to his people where they lay away the Key of Knowledge and Gods Worship is without understanding in an unknown tongue where Christs Sacraments are corrupted and maimed where Divine worship is communicated to Creatures where Christs Glorious Body is defended to be torn not onely with the teeth of the faithful but also of faithlesse men yea of Rats and Mice where besides a number of other superstitions the effects of Christs blood are communicated to Purgatory fire to Saint Francis frock and the Carmilites scapular where the sole infallible interpretation of Scripture decission of Crntroversies last resolution of our Faith is placed in the brest of one man who may be without true Faith and sound Knowledge of Religion or morall honesty it self where the Doctrine is maintaiued as Catholike that the Pope is Vice-God Monarch of the Christian World Almightie that he can Depose Princes and Expose them to their subjects to be killed Command the Angels with many more like blasphemies From this place and society Christs people are to depart and separate themselves But the present Romane Monarchy is such The conclusion follows undenyable Goe out of her my People Here will I crave leave to answer on Objection that may be made by flesh and blood to be retentive to keep Gods people from hearkning to this voyce of Christ and is used for a motive to draw more also to the Obedience of Rome Gods people of which number I hope I am one may be saved nay which is more cannot perish why should I then be so solicitous if salvation may be had there on the contrary they deny that you have either Church or salvation Therefore it is the safest course by the Opinion of both sides to continue there still I answer This is not the discourse of Christs sheep who make the hearing of his Voice and doing of his Will a higher end then their own salvation but well may become the mouth of those deceivers that would seduce them It is the very language of the old Serpent ye shall not surely die The reason and rule of Obedience is not the avoyding of hell fire or the attaining of bliss of Heaven but the doing of the Will of God And yet supposing this to be true that salvation mae be had in Babylon yet it is attained with great difficulty and as it were through the fire As the Apostle speaketh of those builders which foolishly lay upon the precious foundation of Christ the hay straw and stubble of mens Traditions And there is again a large entrance to be afforded into the everlasting Kingdome of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ If the graces of Gods Spirit abound in us and make us not barren and unfruitful in the knowledge of Christ. Again ignorance so that it be not wilful and affected may have some pardon but to hold the Truth of God in unrighteousness as all do that receive not the love of the Truth and knowing how they which commit such things are worthy of death yet doe 〈◊〉 same and favour those that doe them The wrath of God from heaven is revealed against such Romans 1. 18. 31. Even the danger of temporal punishment threatned to the sinnes of Rome is not to be neglected Suppose a man were sure to goe to Heaven but although to humane infirmity it may perhaps seem otherwise even the Eternal punishments in Hell are not so great an evil as is the offence of God and partaking of sin Looke therefore as this Sophisme of Sathan is in all other temptations to be answered Thou maiest doe this and yet be saved being of the number of Christs people for David Peter and others although they did such things yet found pardon and salvation so here Nay I will not adventure Gods wrath I have other sinnes enough to answer for My Conscience is more then a thousand witnesses I will not buy repentance so deare and loose the things I have gotten Now should I come to the Motives from the Danger of sinne and of partaking in punishment But the handling of these would require a long time let me rather make some Application of that which hath been said already And First and most properly to those that this Scripture most concerns and is directed unto The People of God holden in the Captivitie of the Romane Babylon But alass they are not here for this is one part of their Captivity that they are kept not onely from hearing the voyce of the Servants of Christ or of Saint Iohn the beloved Disciple but of himselfe speaking here from Heaven And they are so contented what remedy may there be for those that are thus bewitched Unlesse you My L. L ● and Brethren will be contented to become Faithfull Feoffees in trust to convey this Voyce and Message of Christ unto them and by my request you shall be pleased to doe it with a great deale of Love As this President of our Lord himselfe doth leade you as to Brethren and as you hope faithfull People loath to sinne against him desirous to please him in all things Tell them then that it is acknowledged by their owne Doctours That Rome is Babylon and it is averred that this is the present Papall Monarchie that out of this they must depart by the
Commands of our Lord Iesus Christs owne Voyce under paine of being accessary to all her sinnes and lyable to all her punishments wish them to use the Libertie to reade the holy Scriptures and to come out of the blinde Obedience of Mens Precepts and Traditions be pleased to tell them further that others may have some Collour of Excuse that live in such places where they may not discover themselves without danger of the losse of their Goods Honour or Life they may doe it here not onely with safetie but with Reputation and profit intreat them to beware least they make themselves extreamely Cu●pable not onely of partaking with the former Idolatries Extortions Massacres Powder Treasons and King killings of that bloody City but the new detestable Doctrines Derogatory to the blood of Christ which moderate men even of her own Subjects detest But which she for fear it should discontent her own Creatures and devoted Darlings will not disavow O if they would feare the plagues of Babylon and that of all others the fearfullest Blindness of mind and strong Delusions to believe Lies that they may be damned that believed not the Truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness But you hope better things of them accompanying Salvation and this Message of our Lord Jesus Christ if you will be pleased to deliver accompanying it with those Generall and common goods of Charitie and Meekeness Integritie good Example and the speciall furtherance which your Callings and Places in State Church or Family can give it doubtlesse to Christs people will not be uneffectual Blessed be God that hath-long agoe stirred up the Spirits of our Princes like Cyrus to give libertie to Gods People to go out of Babylon And to give large Patents with Darius and Artaxe●xes for the building of the Temple and establishing the Service of God And blessed be God and his Majestie that hath sent us another Nehemiah to build up the walls of Ierusalem and to procure that the Portion of the Levites should be given them Give me leave Right Honourable to put you in mind that this also belongeth to your Care to Cooperate with Christ in bringing his People out of the Romish Captivitie And if to help away a poor Captive out of Turkie hath been Honourable to some Publicke Ministers What shall it be to help to the enlargeing of so many thousand souls out of the bondage of Mens Traditions and gaining to his Majestie so many entire Subjects your wisedom my Lord is such as it needeth not to be advised and your Zeal as it needeth not to be stirred up yet pardon me one word for the purpose of helping Christs People out of Babylon They are called by himself often in Scripture His Sheep and verily as in many other so in this they are like to Sheep which being Cooped up in a narrow Pent though they find some Pleasure and the Passage be set open are not forward to come out unlesse they be put on but strain Courtesie which should begin yet when they are once out with a Ioyfull friske they Exult in their Freedome yea and when a few of the foremost lead the rest follow I shall not need to make Application Do according to your wisedome in your place and Christ whose Work it is shall be with you and further your endeavours The like I say unto you the rest of my Lords Fathers and Brethren help your Friends Followers and Tenents out of Babylon what you may in your places you have the Examples of Abraham Ioshua Cornelius praysed in Scripture for propagating the Knowledge and Fear of God in their Families and Commands with the report of Gods accepting it and rewarding it And this to the use of others But shall you not carry away something for your selves also Yes verily take to your selves this Voyce of our Saviour Come out of Babylon you will say we have done it already God be thanked we are good Christians good Protestants some of us Preachers and that call up on others to come out of Babylon But if Saint Paul prayed the Converted Corinthians to be reconciled to God And Saint Iohn writing to Belevers sets down the record of God touching his Son That they might believe in the Name of the Son of God why may not I Exhort in Christs Name and words even those that are come out of Babylon to come out of her Qui monet ut facias c. He that perswades another to that which he doth already in perswading incourageth him and puts him on in his performance but if there be any yet unresolved and halting or hanging between two as the people did in Elias time That present their bodies at such meetings as this is when their hearts are perhaps at Rome or no where If any in some points rightly informed and cleared in others doubtful to such Christ speaks Come out of her my People presse on by prayer Conference reading If Christs Voyce be to be heard If Rome be Babylon Come out of her And let it be spoken with as litle offence as it is delight We that seem to be the forwardest in Reformatino are not yet so come out of Babylon as we have not many shamefull Badges of her Captivity witness her Impropriations being indeed plaine Church-robberie devised to maintain her Colonies of idle and irregular Regulars Idle to the Church and State Zealous and Pragmatical to support and defend her power pomp and pride by whom they subsisted witness her Dispensations or dissipations rather of all Canonical Orders bearing down all with her Non obstante her Symoniacal and Sacrilegious Venality of Holy things her manifold Extortions in the Exercise of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdictiction which we have not wholly banished Let each of us therefore account it as spoken to himself Come out of her my People In this Journey let us not trouble and cast stumbling blocks before Gods People that are ready to come out or hinder one another with Dissentions in matters either inexplicable or unprofitable let it have some pardon If some be even so forward in flying from Babylon as they fear to go back to take their own goods for haste and let it not be blamed or uncharitably censured if some come in the R●ear and would leave none of Christs People behind them No man reacheth his hand to another whom he would lift out of a Ditch but he stoops to him Our ends immediate are not the same but yet they meet in one final intention The one hates Babylon and the other loves and pitties Christs People There the one believes the Angel that cast the Milstone into the Sea in the end of this Chap. with that word so shall Babylon rise uo more The other fear the threatning of our Saviour against such as scandalize any of the little ones believing in him that it is better for such a one to have a Milstone hanged upon his neck and be cast into the Sea himselfe
as to come from the Standard of God to the tents of the Roman Antichrist The heavens shall passe away by a change Rome by a destruction not a change The Honour of the married Clergy Were it not for this opinion i. e. the forbidding it the Church of Rome would want one evident brand of her Antichristianisme Sect. 15. Speaking of a Popish Priest Well doth it become the son of that Babylonish strumpet the lips drenched in the cup of those fornications c. and abundance of the like might be produced Bishop Downham the learned Bishop of Derry in Ireland from whose mouth I have heard sufficiently that way in his book entituled Papa Antichristus is the most large of any we have yet named dividing his discourse into the description of the place and person and the designation of the time out of the 2 Thess. 2. and Revelat. 17. and all directly applyed by him to the See of Rome Bishop Morton that famous and Reverend Bishop of Durham coetaneous with the former and yet living hath much of this in divers parts of his works Bishop Davenant the eminent Bishop of Sarisbury and professor of Divinity at Cambridge hath often declared his judgement accordingly in his Determinations pag. 24. Pontifex Maximus Antichristianam suam superbiam c. audacia plusquam Antichristianâ c. Vniversalem Papae jurisdictionem in totam Ecclesiam non esse jure divino sed usurpatione Antichristiana Bishop Prideaux in his Lectures saith the like often specially in that de Antichristo that he cannot be the Turk but the Pope c Unto which Bishops might be added the votes of many other learned orthodox and Episcopall men whose judgements have been declared accordingly As that learned Professor of Divinity Doctor Samuel Ward in his Lectures and Determinations at Cambridge lately printed specially in those three questions Romana Ecclesia est Idololatrica Apostasia à Paulo praedicta est adimpleta Romana Ecclesia est schismatica i. e. 1. The Roman Church is Idolatrous 2. The Apostasie foretold by Saint Paul is fulfilled 3. The Roman Church is schismaticall Thus concluding in relation to the See of Rome Haec scilicet est illa Babylon quae in corde suo dicit sedeo regina sola sum non est praeter me i. e. This is that Babylon which saith in her heart I sit as a Queen I am only there is none besides me And who knowes not till of later yeares how both the Vniversities in their publick disputations and determinations abounded in their conclusions accordingly I shall only adde the judgement of that meek and judicious man Mr. Hooker see his Treatise of Justification Sect. 10. God hath spoken by his Angel from heaven to his people concerning Babylon by Babylon we understand the Church of Rome Go out of her my people that ye be not partaker of her plagues he expounds the going out of her to be specially meant out of Popish superstitions and heresies calling the maintainers of them Popish Hereticks and by plagues not only temporal but eternal Sect. 20. compares the Pope to Ieroboam Rome to Samaria that played the Harlot c. Sect. 27. speaking of the Bishop of Rome and the Church of Rome addes this As Frenzy though it take away the use of reason doth notwithstanding prove them reasonable creatures which have it because none can be frantick but they so Antichristianity being the bane and plain overthrow of Christianity may nevertheless argue the Church wherein Antichrist sitteth to be christian Sect 57. God did in all ages keep his elect from worshipping the Beast and from receiving his mark in their foreheads he hath and will preserve them from receiving any deadly wound at the hands of the man of sin whose deceit hath prevailed over none unto death but only such as never loved the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness 2 Thessal 2 Sect. 35. speaking of Christs mercy to the worst of men upon their repentance saith thus if a Pope stripped of usurped power Antichrist converted penitent and lying prostrate at the foot of Christ c. shall I think Christ will spurn at him In his Sermon on Saint Iude Sect. 14. He calls the Pope the man of sin and son of perdition who hath fawned upon the Kings and Princes of the earth and by spiritual cousenage proclaiming sale of Pardons c. hath taken the children of the Noblest families and made them his Cardinals built Seminaries and hereby as at this day the man of sin warres against us c. with the cup of whose deadly abominations this Ierob●am of whom we speak hath made the earth so drunk that it hath reeled under us c. Now of whom the Prophet speaketh this whether of the Bishop of Rome or some other man needs no further resolution and so much for Mr. Hooker And whether or no those of the Remonstrants are of a contrary judgement which some call the Arminian party 't is apparent Arminius himself consented with the aforesaid Bishops and Authours in his 31. Theol. disput intituled Of the Bishop of Rome and of the chief Titles which are attributed unto him Wherein after the rejection of the title given unto him by his favourites as blasphemous and asserting his deserts of others viz. the false Prophet Revel 19. 20. cap. 16. 23. cap. 12. 14. Which did wonders before the beast out of whose mouth three impure spirits came forth The overthrower and destroyer of the Church in matters of faith and worship and raising of divisions between Princes and their subjects S. 12. he asserts the name of Autichrist most evidently to belong unto him for the Apostle gives it unto him 2 Thessal 2. 3 4 5 6 7 8. where he there calls him the man of siu the son of perdition that opposeth and exalts himself above or against all that is called God or worship sitting in the Temple of God and saying he is God who upon the fall of the Roman Empire should rise up in his stead and take his vacant dignity That these saith he are to be understood of the Bishop of Rome and are to be understood of him only we do affirm And for the name of Antichrist that most specially 't is appliable to him whether 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 be understood by way of opposition to Christ a pretended substitution or a subordination in his stead c. Sect. 13. He hath made use of all sorts of instruments hypocrisies lies equivocations treacheries perjuries poison force and armes that he may well be said to have succeeded that beast like to a Leopard a Beare and a Lion Revel 13. 2. by which the Roman Empire is signified whose Image he bare and brought it to passe whosoever would not worship the image of the beast should be put to death c. and concludes with a prayer that God would grant that the Church might be delivered from the fraud and tyranny of Antichrist And so much for