Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	love_n	receive_v	unrighteousness_n	1,627	5	10.8118	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A55926	A third letter concerning toleration in defense of The argument of the letter concerning toleration, briefly consider'd and answer'd.	Proast, Jonas.	1691 (1691)	Wing P3539; ESTC R26905	76,552	84

you seem here to do that I am for ●unishing Dissenters whether they consider or no you are in a great mistake For the Dissenters which is your word and not mine whom I am for punishing are onely such as reject the true Religion proposed to them with Reasons and Arguments sufficient to convince them of the truth of it Who therefore can never be supposed to consider those Reasons and Arguments as they ought wh●lest they persist in rejecting that Religion or in your language whilest they continue Dissenters For if they did so consider them they would not continue Dissente●s 2. You say To punish men out of the Communion of the National Church to make them consider is unjust They are punish'd because out of the National Church And they are out of the National Church because they are not yet convinced Their standing out therefore in this State whilest they are not convinced not satisfied in their Minds is no Fault and therefore cannot justly be punish'd To which I answer Where the National Church is the true Church of God to which all men ought to join themselves and sufficient Evidence is offer'd to convince men that it is so there it is a Fault to be out of the National Church because it is a Fault not to be convinced that the National Church is that true Church of God And therefore since there men's not being so convinced can onely be imputed to their not considering as they ought the Evidence which is offer'd to convince them it cannot be unjust to punish them to make them so to consider it What Iustice it would be for the Magistrate to punish me for not being a Cartesian it will be time enough to consider when you have proved it to be ●s necessary for men to be Cartesians as it is to be Christians or members of God's Church 3. You say Whatever indirect Efficacy there be in Force applied your way it makes against you Force used by the Magistrate to bring men to consider those Reasons and Arguments which are proper and suffi●ient to convince them but which without being forced they would not consider may say you be serviceable indirectly and at a distance to make men embrace the Truth which must save them And thus say I it may be serviceable to bring men to receive and embrace Falshood which will destroy them How Sir May Force used by the Magistrate to bring men to consider those Reasons and Arguments which are proper and sufficient to convince them be serviceable to bring men to embrace Falshood such Falshood as will destroy them It ●eems then there are Reasons and Arguments which are proper and sufficient to convince men of the truth of Falshood which will destroy them Which is certainly a very extraordinary Discovery though such as no man can have any reason to thank you for That God in his just Judgement will send such as receive not the love of the Truth that they may be saved but reject it for the pleasure they have in unrighteousness 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 strong delusion i. e. such Reasons and Arguments as will prevail wi●h men so disposed to believe a Lie that they may be damn'd This I confess the Scripture plainly teaches us But that there are any such Reasons or Arguments as are proper and sufficient to co●vince or satisfy any but such resolute and obdurate Sinners of the truth of such Falshood as will destroy them is a Position which I ●n●sure the Scripture does not teach us and which when you have better consider'd it I hope you will not undertake to maintain And yet if it be not maintainable what you say here is to no purpose For if there be no such Reasons and Arguments as he●e we speak of 't is in vain to talk of the Magistrate s using Force to make men consider them But however let it be supposed if you plea●e that there are such Reasons and Arguments as are proper and sufficient to convince men of the truth of Falshood which will destroy them And that Force applied by the Magistrate to make men consider the● might be serviceable to bring men to receive and embrace such Falshood What will you conclude from thence May it not be tr●e nevertheless that Force used by the Magistrate to bring men to consider those Reasons and Arguments which are proper and sufficient to convince them but which without being forced they would not consider may be serviceable indirectly and at a distance to bring men to embrace the Truth which must save them Which is all that I am here concern'd to make good But not content to say that Force my way applied i.e. to bring men to embrace the Truth which must save them may be serviceable to bring men to embrace Falshood which will destroy them and so is proper to do as much harm as good which seems strange enough you add to encreate the wonder that in my indirect way it is much more proper and likely to make men receive and embrace Error than the Truth And that 1. Because Men out of the right Way are as apt and you think you may say apter to use Force than others Which is doub●less an irrefragable Demonstration that Force used by the Magistrate to bring men to receive and embrace the Truth which ●ust save them is much more proper and likely to make men receive Error than the Truth But Sir I beseech you how come we to talk here of what men out of the right Way are apt to do to bring others into their i. e. a wrong Way where we are onely enquiring What may be done to bring men to the right Way For that I must put you in mind is our Question viz. Whether the Magist●ate has any Right to use Force to bring men to the true Religion Now whereas our Author says that Penalties or Force is absolutely impertinent in this case because it is not proper to convince the Mind To which I answer that though Force be not proper to convince the Mind yet it is not absolutely impertinent in this case because it may however do some service towards the bringing men to embrace the Truth which must save them by bringing ●hem to consider those Reasons and Arguments which are proper to convince the Mind and which without being forced they would not consider Here you tell me No but it is much more proper and l●kely to make men receive and embrace Error than Truth because ●en out of the right Way are as apt and perhaps apter to use Force than others Which is as good a proof I believe as the thing would admit For otherwise I suppose you would have given us a better As to what you say here on the by of the Mildness and Gentleness of the Gospel which is apter to use Prayers and Intreaties then Force to gain a hearing I shall onely demand of you Whether the Mildness and Gentleness of