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mat._n 11._o 6._o but_o if_o you_o which_o have_v stand_v for_o the_o truth_n shall_v now_o by_o publish_v of_o error_n cause_n the_o truth_n to_o be_v the_o more_o blaspheme_v &_o give_v offence_n to_o weak_a professor_n that_o be_v your_o sin_n and_o will_v be_v too_o heavy_a to_o be_v answer_v at_o the_o judgement_n day_n if_o you_o repent_v not_o and_o as_o for_o our_o church_n which_o you_o blasphemous_o call_v antichristian_a know_v you_o that_o i_o do_v not_o fear_v the_o fall_n of_o it_o for_o it_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o prophet_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o be_v the_o chief_a corner_n stone_n ephe._n 2_o 20._o which_o have_v a_o sure_a promise_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o mat._n 16._o 18._o and_o therefore_o your_o anathema_n can_v hurt_v we_o but_o shall_v rebound_v back_o again_o whence_o it_o come_v 4._o you_o say_v though_o i_o have_v profess_v to_o forsake_v my_o error_n upon_o their_o 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be_v passage_n page_v 71._o ignorant_o and_o therefore_o desirous_a of_o â—our_n good_a i_o do_v undertake_v according_a to_o my_o small_a ability_n to_o manifest_a â—he_n truth_n unto_o you_o by_o such_o reason_n as_o i_o can_v at_o that_o present_a gather_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o same_o which_o see_v you_o make_v so_o small_a account_n of_o and_o answer_v i_o that_o i_o may_v have_v spare_v my_o pain_n and_o save_v myself_o from_o sin_n i_o be_o sorry_a in_o that_o respect_n that_o i_o do_v write_v yet_o in_o regard_n of_o witness_v the_o â—ruth_n and_o perform_v a_o duty_n towards_o a_o brother_n fall_v into_o error_n i_o repent_v â—e_v not_o neither_o yet_o of_o commit_v any_o grevous_a sin_n thereby_o as_o you_o charge_v i_o withal_o see_v i_o plead_v for_o that_o which_o be_v of_o christ_n and_o not_o for_o antichristian_a corruption_n and_o as_o for_o your_o error_n so_o often_o grace_v by_o you_o with_o the_o title_n of_o truth_n which_o you_o say_v you_o never_o 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30._o act._n 16_o 25._o psal_n 95._o &_o 92_o 1._o &_o 66._o 2._o &_o 89._o 1._o last_o each_o one_o as_o he_o be_v able_a contribute_v to_o the_o treasury_n whereby_o the_o officer_n &_o poor_a of_o the_o church_n be_v maynteyn_v according_a to_o these_o scripture_n 1_o tim._n 5_o 17._o 18._o 1_o cor._n 9_o 7-14_a gal._n 6._o 6._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 16._o luk._n 2d_o 1._o 2_o 3._o 4._o mat._n 26_o 9_o 10._o 11._o act._n 2_o 42._o 45_o 46._o &_o 4_o 34._o 35._o 37._o 1_o cor._n 16._o 1_o 2._o â—_o cor._n 8_o 4_o 1â—_n and_o this_o be_v that_o worship_n and_o service_n we_o public_o practice_v which_o mr._n s._n call_v false_a worship_n how_o true_o let_v the_o reader_n now_o judge_n four_o concern_v the_o government_n of_o our_o church_n which_o also_o this_o adversary_n tax_v first_o the_o governor_n that_o we_o have_v be_v such_o as_o christ_n have_v appoint_v in_o his_o church_n viz._n pastor_n teacher_n &_o elder_n and_o such_o as_o m._n s._n 8._o s._n principle_n pag._n 18._o 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not_o ashamed_a or_o yet_o neglect_v to_o undertake_v the_o defence_n of_o that_o truth_n â—_o profess_v and_o to_o manifest_v that_o he_o be_v a_o defender_n of_o error_n and_o not_o we_o as_o â—e_v scanderous_o report_v of_o us._n furthermore_o mr_n smyth_n require_v of_o the_o separation_n and_o of_o all_o man_n not_o â—_o impute_v unto_o they_o the_o deny_v of_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o lord_n day_n the_o â—â—â—â—stracy_n and_o humanity_n of_o christ_n why_o this_o request_n shall_v be_v make_v i_o know_v â—ot_n unless_o they_o will_v bear_v the_o world_n in_o hand_n that_o they_o be_v not_o taint_v â—ith_o these_o error_n which_o other_o anabaptist_n do_v hold_v concern_v the_o â—st_n of_o they_o mr._n sm._n affirm_v that_o the_o lord_n make_v with_o his_o people_n under_o â—e_n old_a testament_n a_o carnal_a covenant_n deny_v that_o everlasting_a covenant_n in_o christ_n to_o be_v give_fw-ge unto_o they_o or_o circumcision_n to_o be_v the_o seal_n thereof_o he_o â—so_o deny_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a to_o be_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n â—yther_o before_o or_o since_o christ_n come_n contrary_a to_o gen._n 17._o 7._o act._n 2._o â—9_n and_o therefore_o i_o can_v see_v but_o that_o the_o deny_v both_o of_o the_o old_a and_o â—ew_a testament_n in_o this_o respect_n may_v just_o be_v impute_v unto_o he_o as_o in_o this_o treatise_n follow_v it_o will_v appear_v for_o their_o deny_v of_o the_o lord_n day_n as_o yet_o we_o have_v little_a to_o say_v notwithâ—anding_v it_o be_v report_v that_o some_o of_o their_o company_n make_v question_n thereof_o but_o concern_v the_o magistracy_n mr._n smyth_n bewray_v his_o unsoundnes_n â—_o these_o word_n but_o of_o magistrate_n convert_v to_o the_o faith_n and_o admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n there_o may_v question_n be_v make_v which_o to_o answer_v we_o can_v if_o we_o â—â—â—ld_v when_o such_o thing_n fall_v out_o the_o lord_n we_o doubt_v not_o will_v direct_v we_o into_o the_o truth_n concerrn_v that_o matter_n here_o let_v the_o reader_n observe_v how_o they_o plead_v ignorance_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n if_o so_o they_o think_v of_o his_o authority_n that_o he_o be_v of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o bear_v the_o sword_n and_o they_o of_o the_o church_n to_o obey_v he_o as_o have_v civil_a power_n over_o they_o and_o who_o he_o may_v command_v in_o defence_n of_o religion_n &_o of_o his_o country_n to_o take_v up_o arm_n then_o need_v not_o he_o thus_o to_o speak_v for_o by_o his_o word_n they_o geve_v we_o to_o conjecture_v that_o they_o think_v more_o may_v be_v yield_v to_o a_o heathen_a ruler_n then_o to_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n if_o they_o be_v clear_a in_o this_o point_n they_o may_v so_o explain_v their_o mind_n also_o in_o this_o plead_a ignorance_n of_o the_o magistracy_n they_o seem_v to_o tax_v the_o new_a testament_n not_o to_o be_v so_o plain_a as_o mr_n smyth_n affirm_v where_o he_o say_v all_o the_o 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say_v to_o be_v coinheritor_n with_o they_o and_o of_o the_o â—ame_n body_n see_v also_o ephes_n 2._o 12._o 13._o 14._o add_v hereunto_o that_o the_o jew_n be_v call_v the_o 12._o the_o mat._n 8_o 12._o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o of_o of_o the_o 25._o the_o act._n 3._o 25._o covenant_n and_o unto_o who_o the_o 32._o the_o act._n â—_o 32._o promise_n be_v make_v and_o now_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o this_o spiritual_a covenant_n apperteyn_v to_o the_o israelite_n and_o the_o condition_n thereof_o require_v at_o their_o hand_n i_o hope_v you_o will_v grant_v as_o much_o to_o the_o faithful_a and_o their_o seed_n under_o the_o gospel_n or_o else_o show_v we_o where_o and_o when_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n grace_n be_v shorten_v but_o that_o i_o be_o sure_a you_o can_v prove_v god_n to_o be_v less_o bountiful_a now_o than_o he_o be_v to_o the_o jew_n and_o therefore_o as_o the_o chidren_n of_o abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n be_v holy_a and_o have_v right_o to_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v seal_v with_o circumcision_n so_o be_v the_o child_n now_o that_o descend_v from_o believe_a parent_n 14._o parent_n 1_o cor._n 7._o 14._o holy_a and_o have_v right_a to_o the_o covenant_n 14._o covenant_n mat._n 19_o 14._o and_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o to_o baptism_n the_o seal_n thereof_o but_o you_o say_v infant_n want_v actual_a faith_n can_v true_o be_v say_v the_o child_n of_o abraham_n i_o answer_v that_o actual_a faith_n be_v require_v of_o such_o of_o abraham_n child_n as_o faith_n here_o noâ—_n that_o actual_a faith_n in_o alâ—_n this_o treatise_n be_v put_v for_o tâ—_n actual_a usâ—_n faith_n be_v grow_v to_o year_n and_o therefore_o you_o must_v prove_v that_o infant_n want_v actual_a faith_n can_v be_v the_o child_n of_o abraham_n and_o then_o must_v you_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v not_o christ_n for_o if_o they_o be_v christ_n they_o be_v abraham_n seed_n gal._n 3._o 29._o but_o be_v that_o they_o be_v in_o secret_a to_o the_o lord_n whatsoever_o 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afterward_o receive_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n ergo_fw-la the_o child_n of_o abraham_n the_o believe_a gentile_n must_v first_o believe_v actual_o and_o be_v seal_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o promise_n and_o then_o receive_v the_o baptism_n of_o water_n this_o argument_n which_o you_o allege_v against_o paedobaptistrie_n the_o very_a 〈◊〉_d serve_v to_o confirm_v it_o for_o thus_o we_o reason_n for_o it_o observe_v your_o term_n as_o it_o be_v with_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a so_o must_v it_o be_v with_o thâ—_n child_n of_o abraham_n but_o abraham_n first_o believe_v and_o be_v seal_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o promise_n afterward_o receive_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n he_o and_o his_o child_n ergo_fw-la the_o child_n of_o abraham_n the_o believe_a gentile_n must_v first_o beleeveâ—_n and_o be_v seal_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o promise_n and_o then_o receive_v baptism_n of_o water_n they_o and_o their_o child_n here_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v if_o you_o by_o this_o your_o own_o argument_n have_v not_o yield_v the_o cause_n for_o this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o stand_v for_o viz_o that_o as_o it_o be_v with_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a so_o must_v it_o be_v with_o his_o child_n the_o believe_a gentile_n now_o abraham_n believe_v that_o god_n will_v be_v his_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o his_o seed_n gen._n 17._o 7._o receive_v circumcision_n the_o †_o seal_v thereof_o he_o himself_o and_o all_o his_o male_n yea_o isaac_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a 4._o â—om_n 4._o 3_o â—_o gen._n 17._o â—_o 14._o â—_o 27._o â—_o 21._o 4._o ergo_fw-la the_o child_n of_o abraham_n the_o believe_a gentile_n must_v first_o beleeeve_v and_o then_o receive_v the_o seal_n thereof_o which_o be_v baptism_n themselves_o and_o their_o child_n but_o if_o your_o meaning_n be_v this_o that_o as_o abraham_n believe_v first_o &_o after_o be_v circumcise_v so_o every_o one_o of_o abraham_n seed_n must_v first_o actual_o believe_v and_o 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apperteyn_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o be_v they_o circumcise_v for_o none_o may_v be_v circumcise_v to_o who_o the_o covenant_n do_v not_o belong_v also_o to_o the_o major_n consequent_a i_o answer_v that_o they_o which_o enter_v into_o the_o lord_n covenant_n be_v they_o believer_n or_o their_o infant_n we_o be_v to_o hold_v they_o â—_o they_o 1_o cor._n 7._o 14._o luk_n â—_o 15._o jer._n 1._o â—_o spiritual_o circumcise_v and_o therefore_o to_o be_v partaker_n of_o baptism_n concern_v your_o assumption_n as_o 37._o as_o mat._n 3._o 8._o act._n â—_o 12._o 37._o repentance_n and_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v require_v of_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v adjoin_v to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n so_o be_v it_o of_o â—_o of_o gen._n 17_o â—_o
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can_v any_o say_v that_o none_o of_o esau_n his_o posterty_n be_v in_o god_n secret_a election_n &_o if_o this_o scripture_n will_v not_o warrant_v any_o so_o to_o judge_n than_o neither_o will_v it_o warrant_v rebecca_n so_o to_o apply_v it_o to_o her_o son_n be_v so_o general_o speak_v the_o personal_a rejection_n either_o of_o ishmael_n or_o esau_n be_v not_o revel_v until_o by_o their_o evil_a work_n they_o manife_v themselves_o and_o therefore_o these_o child_n be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n as_o esau_n be_v in_o jacobs_n house_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v holy_a to_o be_v circumcise_v and_o hold_v of_o the_o covenant_n until_o there_o wickedness_n throw_v they_o out_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v not_o under_o the_o possession_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o under_o the_o offer_n of_o it_o i_o use_v these_o reason_n first_o the_o condition_n or_o obedience_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o new_a 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worship_n &_o obedience_n without_o which_o their_o 5_o their_o esa_n 1._o 12._o 15._o gâ—_n 4._o 5_o ceremonial_a be_v abominable_a also_o if_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n be_v of_o a_o spiritual_a nature_n than_o be_v their_o ministry_n and_o worship_n more_o than_o carnal_a the_o prophet_n 1â—_n prophet_n esa_n 56._o 1â—_n complain_v of_o neglect_n of_o teach_v in_o the_o priest_n which_o argue_v that_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o their_o calling_n to_o instruct_v the_o people_n malachy_n say_v 7._o say_v mal._n 2._o â—_o 6._o 7._o the_o priest_n lip_n shall_v preserve_v knowledge_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v seek_v the_o law_n at_o his_o mouth_n for_o he_o be_v the_o messenger_n of_o the_o lord_n of_o host_n and_o this_o be_v by_o office_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v my_o covenant_n be_v with_o levi_n of_o life_n and_o peace_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n of_o truth_n be_v in_o his_o mouth_n and_o in_o jeremy_n the_o lord_n complain_v of_o the_o priest_n say_v they_o that_o shall_v minister_v the_o law_n â—ow_o i_o not_o promise_v unto_o the_o people_n if_o they_o repent_v that_o he_o will_v give_v they_o “_o pastor_n according_a to_o his_o own_o hart_n which_o shall_v feed_v they_o with_o â—_o â—â—r_fw-fr 3._o 15._o â—eh_fw-it 8._o â—_o act._n 13._o â—â—_o act._n 15._o â—_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n and_o in_o nehemiah_n it_o be_v write_v that_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n †_o read_v in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n and_o give_v the_o sense_n and_o cause_v the_o people_n to_o understand_v the_o read_n and_o this_o by_o their_o office_n lev._n 10._o 11._o the_o jew_n have_v the_o *_o lecture_n of_o the_o law_n and_o prophet_n in_o their_o synagogue_n and_o “_o moses_n have_v they_o of_o old_a time_n in_o every_o city_n that_o do_v preach_v he_o thus_o we_o see_v that_o the_o open_n of_o the_o law_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o scripture_n 17._o lev._n 9_o 22_o â—_o num._n â—_o 23._o 27._o â—_o 9_o 4_o 13_o â—_o &_o 10._o 1._o â—â—h_o 8._o 6._o â—l_n 1._o 14._o â—_o 2._o 16._o 17._o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n and_o of_o their_o public_a worship_n on_o the_o sabbath_n also_o the_o priest_n †_o give_v thanks_o unto_o god_n for_o the_o people_n bless_v they_o and_o pray_v the_o temple_n be_v call_v the_o house_n of_o prayer_n math._n 21._o 13._o also_o they_o have_v certain_a hour_n of_o meeting_n at_o the_o temple_n which_o be_v call_v hour_n of_o prayer_n act._n 3._o 1._o and_o they_o be_v command_v spiritual_a sacrifice_n as_o ps_n 4._o 5._o &_o 50._o 14._o 15._o 23._o as_o former_o be_v observe_v concern_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o be_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n elder_n i_o know_v no_o great_a difference_n in_o nature_n of_o thâ—t_a church_n and_o of_o this_o under_o the_o gospel_n the_o former_a be_v govern_v ecclesiastical_o by_o the_o priest_n &_o elder_n mat._n 26._o 47._o luk._n 22._o 66_o act._n 23._o 14._o and_o 6._o 12._o and_o 13._o 15._o &_o 18._o 8._o 2_o chro._n 19_o 8._o and_o so_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v to_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o 27._o mat._n 18._o â—5_n 16._o 17._o â—_o cor._n 5._o 3._o 5_o â—_o exo._n 19_o 6._o â—_o exod_a 22._o â—1_n lev._n 14_o â—_o &_o 11._o 44_o use_v 20._o 7._o â—_o pet._n 1._o 16._o rom._n 11._o 16_o â—_o deu._n 4._o 20_o &_o 5._o 2._o psa_fw-la â—0_n 3._o 4._o deu._n 14._o 2._o rom._n 11._o â—19_a 23._o â—_o 27._o minister_n and_o elder_n act._n 20._o 28._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 1_o thes_n 5._o 12._o hebr._n 13_o 8._o the_o censure_n ecclesiastical_a under_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v admonition_n &_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n
comparison_n &_o touch_v not_o the_o thing_n in_o question_n you_o may_v know_v that_o faith_n can_v not_o entitle_v the_o female_n to_o circumcision_n when_o they_o have_v no_o commandment_n for_o it_o in_o the_o gaylor_n &_o lydias_n family_n the_o woman_n be_v capable_a of_o the_o seal_n by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n again_o concern_v the_o male_n infidelity_n might_n and_o do_v hinder_v from_o circumcision_n as_o it_o do_v the_o gentile_n which_o receive_v not_o the_o faith_n and_o so_o infidelity_n exclude_v from_o baptism_n both_o male_n &_o female_n as_o for_o infant_n they_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v infidel_n or_o unbeliever_n for_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o promise_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n else_o 2d_o else_o rev._n 2d_o be_v they_o under_o condemnation_n to_o the_o second_o particular_a of_o my_o answer_n you_o reply_v thus_o i_o answer_v that_o in_o this_o particular_a there_o be_v difference_n betwixt_o the_o one_o act_n of_o abraham_n and_o the_o other_o of_o lydia_n and_o the_o jailer_n according_a to_o the_o commission_n of_o christ_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 1._o abraham_n and_o all_o his_o family_n by_o the_o lord_n commandment_n come_v under_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n actual_o &_o the_o male_n only_o be_v circumcise_v but_o christ_n do_v not_o command_v all_o person_n of_o a_o family_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v make_v disciple_n 2._o the_o gospel_n be_v only_o preach_v to_o abraham_n own_o person_n but_o in_o the_o gaylors_n case_n paul_n preach_v to_o all_o that_o be_v in_o his_o house_n etc._n etc._n 3._o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o preach_v to_o abraham_n thereby_o to_o prepare_v he_o to_o circumcision_n as_o if_o thereby_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o gospel_n for_o it_o be_v not_o so_o etc._n etc._n but_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n command_v the_o gospel_n to_o be_v preach_v to_o every_o 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