Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	line_n	page_n	read_v	3,449	5	9.8327	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A94733	An apology or plea for the Two treatises, and appendix to them concerning infant-baptisme; published Decemb. 15. 1645. Against the unjust charges, complaints, and censures of Doctor Nathanael Homes, Mr Iohn Geree, Mr Stephen Marshall, Mr John Ley, and Mr William Hussey; together with a postscript by way of reply to Mr Blakes answer to Mr Tombes his letter, and Mr Edmund Calamy, and Mr Richard Vines preface to it. Wherein the principall heads of the dispute concerning infant-baptism are handled, and the insufficiency of the writings opposed to the two treatises manifested. / By Iohn Tombes, B.D.	Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.	1646 (1646)	Wing T1801; Thomason E352_1; ESTC R201072	143,666	170

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alicubi_fw-la quanquam_fw-la libris_fw-la jam_fw-la spoliatus_fw-la locum_fw-la judicare_fw-la nequeam_fw-la baptismi_fw-la ritum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la satis_fw-la notum_fw-la ante_fw-la joannis_n baptistae_fw-la tempora_fw-la in_o admissione_n proselytorum_fw-la aut_fw-la discipulorum_fw-la apud_fw-la judaeos_fw-la &_o interrogatio_fw-la pharisaeorum_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-la novitate_fw-la ritus_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la authoritate_fw-la baptizantis_fw-la quaerentium_fw-la joannis_n evangelii_n cap._n 1._o co●_n 25._o idem_fw-la innuere_fw-la videtur_fw-la et_fw-la forsan_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la eundem_fw-la cap._n 3._o com._n 25._o ad_fw-la usurpationem_fw-la istius_fw-la ritus_fw-la spectabat_fw-la paedobaptismum_fw-la verò_fw-la ignotum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la primaevis_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la christianarum_fw-la temporibus_fw-la asserit_fw-la ludovicus_n vives_n comment_n in_o augustini_fw-la de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 27._o quapropter_fw-la vir_fw-la ornatissime_fw-la super_fw-la istis_fw-la apicibus_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la successione_n scilicet_fw-la baptismi●●_n lecum_fw-la circumcisionis_fw-la &_o paedobaptismi_fw-la origin●_n te_fw-la cujus_fw-la periti●_n in_fw-la rebus_fw-la &_o scriptis_fw-la hebraicis_fw-la &_o ecclesiasticis_fw-la veritatis_fw-la amor_fw-la animique_fw-la candour_n satis_fw-la spectantur_fw-la &_o latè_fw-la praedicantur_fw-la consulendum_fw-la duxi_fw-la pla●eat_fw-la itaque_fw-la claritudini_fw-la tu●_n mihi_fw-la quanquam_fw-la obscure_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tamen_fw-la tanquam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d super_fw-la ●stare_fw-la animi_fw-la sententiam_fw-la tui_fw-la impertire_fw-la et_fw-la quoniam_fw-la sit_v scio_fw-la te_fw-la plurimis_fw-la iisque_fw-la gravissimis_fw-la negotits_fw-fr occupari_fw-la responsum_fw-la tuum_fw-la se●_n pluribus_fw-la seu_fw-la pa●cioribus_fw-la verbis_fw-la tempore_fw-la à_fw-la ●eipso_fw-la posite_fw-la expect_v abit_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la vestrae_fw-la observantissi●●_n joannes_n tomb_n londini_fw-la ●●dibus_fw-la recto●is_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈…〉_z august●●●4_n 1644._o though_o the_o answer_n be_v no_o other_o than_o a_o reference_n of_o i_o to_o the_o book_n i_o may_v meet_v with_o in_o stationer_n shop_n yet_o i_o conceive_v this_o advantage_n i_o have_v by_o it_o that_o what_o i_o find_v in_o book_n extant_a may_v be_v the_o more_o safe_o rely_v on_o and_o that_o my_o diligence_n to_o discover_v the_o truth_n will_v be_v the_o more_o apparent_a for_o which_o i_o deny_v myself_o rest_v write_n and_o without_o recompense_n from_o man_n lay_v out_o more_o than_o my_o estate_n can_v bear_v but_o m._n mar._n seem_v ready_a to_o catch_v at_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v make_v i_o suspect_v and_o so_o bring_v my_o writing_n out_o of_o credit_n &_o p._n 78._o of_o his_o defence_n thus_o he_o speak_v i_o be_o misinform_v by_o good_a friend_n who_o know_v &_o love_v you_o very_o well_o if_o yourself_o incline_v not_o this_o way_n to_o baptize_v any_o whether_o turk_n or_o heathen_n who_o only_o will_v make_v a_o profession_n of_o their_o faith_n in_o jesus_n christ_n &_o then_o admit_v they_o to_o all_o other_o ordinance_n &_o not_o have_v they_o excommunicate_v à_fw-la sacris_fw-la but_o only_o à_fw-la privato_fw-la consortio_fw-la though_o their_o life_n shall_v prove_v scandalous_a to_o which_o i_o say_v that_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o in_o private_a conference_n lament_v the_o sad_a condition_n of_o these_o nation_n that_o be_v likely_a to_o cut_v one_o another_o throat_n about_o the_o difference_n between_o presbyterian_o &_o independent_o i_o have_v say_v that_o i_o doubt_v whether_o ever_o excommunication_n à_fw-la sacris_fw-la or_o the_o presbyterian_a or_o independent_a ecclesiastical_a government_n will_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la by_o christ_n appointment_n and_o i_o confess_v that_o i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v but_o a_o matter_n of_o prudence_n whether_o each_o congregation_n have_v its_o complete_a power_n and_o order_n within_o itself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v order_v in_o some_o thing_n by_o a_o assembly_n of_o select_a person_n out_o of_o divers_a congregation_n and_o whether_o congregation_n and_o pastor_n be_v fix_v or_o unfixed_a and_o i_o doubt_v whether_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n matth._n 16._o 19_o be_v any_o other_o then_o doctrinal_a whither_o matth._n 18_o 15_o 16_o 17_o 18._o contain_v