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A88105 Light for smoke: or, A cleare and distinct reply by Iohn Ley, one of the Assembly of Divines at Westminster, to a darke and confused answer in a booke made, and intituled The smoke in the temple, by Iohn Saltmarsh, late preacher at Brasteed in Kent, now revolted both from his pastorall calling and charge. Whereto is added, Novello-mastix, or a scourge for a scurrilous news-monger. Ley, John, 1583-1662.; C. D. Novello-mastix. 1646 (1646) Wing L1883; Thomason E333_2; Thomason E333_3; ESTC R200742 90,377 128

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