Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	life_n	spirit_n	way_n	4,708	5	4.7817	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A94733	An apology or plea for the Two treatises, and appendix to them concerning infant-baptisme; published Decemb. 15. 1645. Against the unjust charges, complaints, and censures of Doctor Nathanael Homes, Mr Iohn Geree, Mr Stephen Marshall, Mr John Ley, and Mr William Hussey; together with a postscript by way of reply to Mr Blakes answer to Mr Tombes his letter, and Mr Edmund Calamy, and Mr Richard Vines preface to it. Wherein the principall heads of the dispute concerning infant-baptism are handled, and the insufficiency of the writings opposed to the two treatises manifested. / By Iohn Tombes, B.D.	Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.	1646 (1646)	Wing T1801; Thomason E352_1; ESTC R201072	143,666	170

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but_o may_v be_v do_v in_o time_n without_o necessity_n of_o separation_n turn_v seeker_n or_o popular_a tumult_n though_o for_o the_o present_a generation_n by_o reason_n of_o preingagements_a man_n spirit_n be_v very_o averse_a from_o it_o i_o shall_v be_v willing_a to_o do_v it_o as_o be_v resolve_v notwithstanding_o the_o unkind_a usage_n i_o have_v find_v yet_o to_o remember_v my_o covenant_n and_o account_n to_o god_n and_o as_o i_o have_v not_o hitherto_o so_o neither_o i_o hope_v in_o god_n ever_o shall_v foster_v any_o crypticall_a divinity_n of_o which_o i_o need_v be_v ashamed_a to_o bring_v it_o into_o light_n or_o which_o shall_v just_o cause_v man_n to_o be_v jealous_a of_o i_o as_o a_o dangerous_a person_n likely_a to_o trouble_v the_o church_n though_o unbrother-like_a mr_n martial_n pag._n 76._o endeavour_n to_o represent_v i_o as_o if_o i_o be_v one_o that_o

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