not prevaile as to them would returne into our own bosome And besides this migh be the reward of serious wrestling with God on this behalfe that that Devil who drives them at this rate of opposition to his Christ should be seen to be the Devil and so the snare would be broken and the elect preserved from falling in it and the folly of these reprobats concerning the faith these Ianneses and Iambreses who resist the truth and withstand a greater then Moses might be made so manifest to all men as they should proceed no further Secondly I judge this monstruous appearance of men so madded against Christ and the alone way of salvation by him cals aloud to all upon whom the blessed name of Christ is called to fall a weeping and pouring out their hearts before him in the remembrance of the procuring cause whereby the just and holy Lord hath been provoked to let loose such a Spirit and leave so many souls to be seised upon by him as we see O sad sight are become a prey to him in this generation and are taken and held by the cords of their own consent captives of him at his will Alas we may read in this allaruming and wrath-speaking dispensation the high and hot displeasure of God at our sin in not prizeing this glorious Gospel of the Grace of God wherein life and immortalitie is brought to light mens not truthing it in love or receiving the love of the truth mens pleasing themselves with names and pursuing of notions while Christ was not received to dwell in the heart by faith their not departing from iniquitie on whom the name of Christ was called and who seemed to call on his name hath been the bitter root springing up in these spruts of hell whereby the Church is this day troubled so many are defiled with this leprosie and soul-destroying contagion This this is that root which hath brought forth these cursed fruits Because after all the pains he had been at to reforme his Church and setle pure ordinances amongst us Yet our scum remained in us and there were so few who made it their work to walk worthie of the Lord to all pleasing and to render unto him according to the benefite received therefore he suffered Abaddon to plant that vine of Sodom within the pale of his visible Church and in that vineyard on which he had taken so much pains because it brought not forth fruit unto him by whom it was dressed and it hath been most fertil in bringing forth these grapes of gall and bitter clusters and he hath conduced many trafficquers for him which he could not have found without the pale of the visible Church nay which he could not have found in any Church but in a Church on which so much pains had been taken and wherein ordinances had been setled in such puritie to tread these grapes of gall and vend this wine to poor souls which is the poison of Dragons and the cruel venome of Aspes and they are hell-busie for he must run whom such a Devil drives though it be down a steep place as is manifest in this Barclay and his complices who are long breathed in compassing sea and land to proselyt poor souls and poison them beyond the power of an Antidot for then mercy it self is engaged to destroy them by their trampleing under foot that blood of the Covenant whereby the blessed surtie was sanctified or whereby he sanctified seperat and set himself a part for their sakes for whom he became a propitiation I say we are to remember the peccant and procureing cause of all this Alas how may many remember their laughing at the first appearance of this prodigie and making light of the matter with shame and confusion of face How may they under the conviction of their guilt in this matter go groaning to their graves O will it not be an indelible marke of infamie and an evidence that we knew not the signes of the times and what they called us to do Will it not be a reproach never to be rolled away from this generation that one day upon the Devils appearance in this shape to destroy the all of Christianitie at once was not set apart in all the Churches of Brittan and Ireland to weep before the Lord Yea day after day by common consent Shall the posteritie heare that this was not done and yet heare that we were alive when cursed Naylour whose name and notions will be for a curse to all that love the name of our Lord Jesus Christ for ever appeared upon the stage Shall it be recorded how in his Bristol-road and what followed upon it he out-did the very Devil and also heare that what was acted against Christ the Lord did not put us all to cry upon our knees and weep day and night before him and here by the way give me leave to insert a Parenthesis this unhappie Author R. Barclay boasts in his Vniversal love that they have not the name of any particular person called upon them as other sects so he calls them have I shall not here tell him what of untruth is in this vain boast for whose name is called upon the Antinomians c. nor shall I suggest the difficultie a person of as happie an ingine and invention as he tells us he is would have found if he had set himself to essay the designeing of them by a particular name seing they have monpolized and soudred into one masse all the most damnable heresies ever came out of hell and so in their Camp are congregat and mustered against Christ all particular heresies whereby under several Leaders the Saviour hath been opposed from the beginning But this I 'le say and confesâ—e unto him there was a wrong done them that they were not called Naylorists i. e. the most perfect audacious opposers of Christ that ever the Devil brought on the stage and that their doctrine instead of Quakerisme was not called Naylorisme i. e. the purest blasphemie against Christ that ever any of Abbadon's brood belched forth And therefore hereafter I shall since they are his very spawn and as like him as if he had spitted them out of his mouth doe them that piece of justice as to designe them Naylorists i. e. Blasphemers of Christ for the Devil should have his due may not the very caul of our heart be rent in this reflexion Gracious Hezekiahs zeal and I dar say upon a lesse clamant emergent and a lesse crimson blasphemie will rise up in judgement against the luke warmnesse of this generation and our liveing in such a day and not lamenting before the Lord will witnesse that we had outlived our zeal and be too plain a proof that our holy fire was gone out since our heart did not boile over at our eye on the seeing and hearing of such a thing Oh if at last we would awake and weep that we had been a sleep while Satan was so busie in
from the Father and the Son And if the knowledge of this be such an essential part of Christianity and a ground of that knowledge of God which leadeth to salvation and so necessary for the right uptaking of the great work of Redemption and Salvation as it is and cannot rationally be denyed by any sober man who considereth what a sure basis this is unto the Christians hope peace and comfort how cometh it to pass that there is no express and distinct mention made of this fundamental point in all his Theses we have heard how the Quakers of N. England have denied this foundation And Mr Stalham in his Reviler rebuked part 1. sect 7. tels us that the Quakers against whom he wrote dâ—nied thâ—t there was any Scripture for the Trinity and said that the Holy Ghost was no Person It is known also how others of them inveigh against this fundamental Truth It is true I finde not this man either in his Theses or in his Apology directly writing against this truâ—h Yet as I finde no expressions hereanent in his whole book others than such as might come out of the mouth of an Antitrinitarian Socinian so I judge if his Theses had answered his great brags in the Preface they had expresly and distinctly not only mentioned but clearly have unfolded this truth 7. In the 3. place If by his Theses he would direct us into the Saving knowledge of God and make a plaine discovery to us from the very fountaine of all that knowledge that leadeth unto life eternal how cometh it to pass that we have no declaration made to us of the Eternal Purposes and Decrees of God whereby some Men and Angels are predestinated unto everlasting life and others foreordained unto everlasting death and whereby according to the most wise and holy counsel of his will he hath freely and unchangeably ordained whatsoever cometh to pass Shall we think that the knowledge of this hath no interest in the saving knowledge of God or in that knowledge which leadeth unto life which yet undeniâ—bly yeeldeth such a noble ground of Faith Dependence Praise Reverence Humility Hope Consolation Admiration and holy Fear Nay this Man not only doth not asserte or explaine this but as we shall hear doth deny and impugne it with all his might 8. How cometh it 4 That in all his Theses or Apology there is not the least mention direct or indirect made of the Covenant of Redemption or of those mutual actings of the blessed Persons of the Trinity resembling a mutual Covenant and engagement concerning the everlasting Interest of man Shall any man think that this point of truth which is such a sure ground of all our hopes and consolation such a sure support of staggering souls and such an armour of proof against the assaults of Satan maketh no part of that knowledge which leadeth unto life or hath no place in true and saving knowledge 9. Further 5. Doth not the doctrine of the first Câ—venant of Works entered into with Adam as the representative of Mâ—n-kiâ—de upon condition of Personal Perfect and Perpetual obedience belong to that necessary knowledge which bringeth forward unto life or unto that knowledge of God in Christ which is begun felicity How is it then that his Theses are so silent herein or at most give us such a darke and jejune hint of this as is next to none as we shall see It is one of the Quakers tenets as Mr Stalham Sheweth in his forecited book Part 1. Sectâ—7 â—7 that Adam was not under a Covenant of Works that the Law which Adam had in innocency written in his heart was not the moral law that Adam did not stand by the observation of the positive branches given him in command according to that Law So said I. Nayler and R. F. as he sheweth us and that the same Iames Nayler in his Book called The discovery of the Man of sin Pag 23. went about to prove this by such pityful Arguments as these The Covenant of Works saith do this and live but he that is Adam had the life already while he stood in it and so it was not to be obtained by working as if do this and live could not hold forth the condition of continueing in life and againe That the law was added because of transgression which if it had been before the transgression could not have been as if the law must not of necessity be before sin which is the transgression thereof 1. Ioh. 3.4 and could not afterward beheld forth as a glass to discover the foule spots of transgressions and the same would R. F. in the 12. Pag. of his Book go about to prove 10 Moreover 6. If his Theses be such an unfolding of clear and naked truth how cometh it that he speaketh so obscurely and enigmatically of the fall of Adam Doth not the clear and distinct knowledge of this truth concerne such as would be acquaint with true and saving knowledge 11. But especially 7. We may wonder how it cometh to pass that in his Theses which he would give out as a summe of saving knowledge nor in his great Apologie we have no description explication or delineation yea or mention of the Covenant of Grace wherein Life and Salvation Pardon and Acceptance Grace and Glory is promised and offered through faith in Jesus Christ or acceptance of Him as He is offered in the Gospel Shall we think that the knowledge of this is no part of that pure and naked Truth which is necessary to be known Or that it can contribute nothing unto that knowledge of God in Christ which is the sure way unto eternal life How shall he be able to perswade us hereof 12. Againe 8. Shall we think that the doctrine of the Redemption purchased by Christ of the Atonement made by him unto Justice for the sinnes of his people and of their Reconciliation unto and Acceptance with God upon the account thereof of the Sufferings of Christ in Body and Soul in his state of Humiliation of his Death Resurrection and Ascension and Sitting at the Fathers right hand of his Obedience and of the Sacrifice of himself which he through the Eternal Spirit once offered up unto God to satisfie Justice and purchase not only Reconciliation but also an everlasting Inheritance in the Kingdom of Heaven for all such as were given to him of the Father shall we think I say that the knowledge of this is not necessary unto Salvation nor necessary to such as would have such a knowledge of God as is eternal life If he dar not be so impudent as to say so why is there such a shameful silence hereof in his Theses and Book as there is Had he no will to displease his friends the Socinians 13. Further 9. Shall it be thought that the doctrine of the Incarnation of the Son of God the Second Person in the Trinity hath no great interest in that pure and naked truth the knowledge whereof leadeth
of their Inspirations and Prophecies it is at least possible that they may be deceived also And if so is it not every way saifest to try all by the unerring touch stone And doâ—h it not hence appear that if we speak in reference to their Revelations the Scriptures are unquestionably the Primary and Adequate rule 12. He addeth a reason in his Thesis which he prosecuteth at large in his Apology viz. That we know the certanty of the Scriptures only by the inward testimony of the Spirit But this reason is ambiguously expressed for it may either have this meaning That we know the certainty of the matter contained in the Scriptures only by the Inward Testimony of the Spirit Or this may be the meaning That only by the Inward Testimony of the Spirit we know certanely that the Scriptures are the word of God or that book which containeth the revealed will of God If he take this Reason in the first sense we may then in part know what he understandeth by a Secondary and Subordinate Rule which title he is pleased as we heard to allow unto the Scriptures that his meaning is consonant to what Will. Pen saith P. 47. of that book of his which Mr Hicks citeth Dial. 3. Pag. 48. viz. We dar boldly affirme that the greatest reason of our beleefe concerning the prophecies and promises recorded in the Scriptures is not from any outward thing but that inward testimony that we have received from that holy Light within us to the truth and faithfulness of those sayings And againe Pag. 48. cited by Mr Hicks Pag. 50 51. Though we do say men ought to live up to these hâ—ly Rules contained in the Scriptures yet the reason why is that conviction they meet with from the light of their own consciences Therefore the light within is both our warrant for Faith in and Obedience to them And this upon the mater is the same that Benj. Furley a known Quaker in Rotterdam saith most plainly in his letter cited by Mr Hicks in his Quakers appeal answered Pag. 16. There is nothing in the Scripture that is a duty upon me or which I am obliged to obey because there recorded whatsoever is a command to me I must not receive from any man or thing without me Nay not the Scripture it self Yea it is the greatest error in the world that ever was invented and the ground of all errour to affirme that the Scripture ought to be a Rule to Christians This is plaine dealing and so is that of Edward Burrowes Pag. 62. cited by Mr Hicks ibid. He that perswades people to let the Scrâ—ptures be the rule of faith and practice would keep people in darkness for who ever walks by the rule without them and teach men so to do would make void the Covenant of life and peace Now if this be his meaning the Scriptures shall be no Rule at all not so much as a Subordinate Rule for it shall hold forth no Truth calling for divine Faith from me nor shall it hold forth any Law or Command obligeing me to Obedience unless a new Revelation come or the Light with in me tell me that such a point is Truth and so to be beleeved and such an Exhortation is a divine Command and so to be Obeyed And if the Light within me say that such an Assertion contained in the Scriptures is not Tâ—uth I must not beâ—eâ—ve it or if it say that such a word of Command is not to be Obeyed there shâ—â—l be no force of a command in the word So that as with Papists the Scriptures are beholden to their Pope or to their Church for its authority so as it hath no canonick authority but what is given to it by the Pope or the Church So with Quakers the Scriptures are beholden to the Light within for its authority and no more is Scripture to be Beleeved and Obeyed as Scripture but what the Light within saith is to be beleeved and Obeyed And thus in effect it is not the Scripture nor the Spirit of God speaking to us in the Scripture that layeth any obligation on us to beleeve and obey but only the Light within so that if the Light within will any other book possibly the Turks Alcoran shall have as much authority to Command our Faith and Obedience as the Scripture hath Yet I must needs say we have much more advantage in dealing with Papists than in dealing with these Quakers for the Papists have but one Pope to whose determination they submit But here every Quaker hath a Pope within his brest And next we can know read and understand what the Pop's determinations are and how founded when he is pleased to condescend to give reasons at least we can know what truths he determineth and what not But we cannot know what the Spirit or Light within the Quakers saith we heare not and see not and understand not what it saith whether it be a white or a blake Spirit we know not It may say One thing this houre and the contrary the next and where are we then And what ever it saith we cannot know but as they report and whether their report be true or not we know not Nor can we know when we have used our utmost diligence to know it To this then are we come at length That every Quaker hath the Supreame judge of all controversies within his brest and the supream Law to regulate all duties So that it is impossible to convince them of an Errour either in Faith or Practice out of the Scriptures because the clearest Assertions of truth and the most manifest Commands have no auâ—hority but from the Light within them And what that Light saith we cannot judge because we neither hear it nor see it nor have we ground to beleeve that they cannot give us a false report of the testimony of that Light This is â— confess a master piece of Invention of the grand Impostor to keep these deluded souls out of the reach of conviction but such as all sober persons will judge ground sufficient to look upon that with a more than ordinary piece of abhorrence and to flee from these deluded and self deluding creatures But one thing more I would know of this man if this be his meaning Is it any otherways with us than it was with the people of God of old He must say no seing he hath formerly pleaded for the same formal Object and Ground to their faith and ours and then I enquire might not the people of God of old have put off thus all the Prophecies Exhortations Rebuikes and Commands which the Prophets immediatly inspired declared unto them from in the name of the Lord by saying till they had Revelations immediat themselves concerning these things to be beleeved or obeyed they were not under any obligation to notice them And if so how could they be charged with Disobedience Obstinacy Unbeleef and Wickedness as we oftentimes finde they were
be mortified in the regenerate they have nothing to do with that duty and so this stuâ—ying of mortification is incumbent only to unregenerat persons doth the Scripture speak so Why doth he not then shew it This would be more pertinent to the purpose than his extravagant discourse that followeth which I have nothing to â—o with But what saith he to prayer He answereth with Smalcius the Socinian aâ—ainst Frantzius disp 6. Pa. 181. disp 9. Pag. 289. That wen we are to pray forgive us our sinnes the meaning is not of daily sinnes but of bygone sinnes Ans. Why will he not say also that when we pray give us this day our daily bread it is meaned of long since before conversion what vanity is this But he saith next This militateth as much against perfect justification Ans. The man understandeth not our doctrine of Justification He supposeth we say with Antinomians that in Justification all sinnes not yet actually committed are actually pardoned while as from this petition we prove the contrary and yet assert a difference betwixt Justification Sanctification as he may see in the larger Chatechisme Quaest. 77. cited above 34. He citeth some sayings of Hieron and of Gelasius and bids us see som places of Augustine But if he will be pleased to read what Vossius hath gathered out of these and many others of the Fathers against Pelagius upon this head which we hinted above he may see his folly and blush Doth not Augustine in his book against Celestius frequently use that very argument forgive us our sins And doth he not say De Spirit liter 36. Multum ille in hac vita profecit qui quam longe sit a perfectione justitiae proficiendo cognovit A grave saying that is He hath advanced very far in this life who hath so far advanced as to know that he is far from perfection And Hierom in the very place cited him to wit Epist. ad Ctesiphontem saith This is mens perfection if they know that they are imperfest And against his conclusion as it standeth I will not be so morose as not to assent to it unless he mean the last words hereof viz. that passage Revel 3 12. to him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of mâ— God as fulfilled in this life and if so he must mean the same of all the rest of the promises made there Chap. 2. 3. to Overcomers which would make him ridiculous enough If he would have cited Ancients to his purpose he should have cited the old Begardi who maintained this and said that a perfect soul being reduced to God loseth its own will so that it hath no other will but the divine will which it had from eternity in that ideal being which it had in God which being supposed they say they may do any thing which their affection puts them upon without sin And so the reason why such persons cannot sin is because all sins even unclean mixtures as they also said are no sinnes He should have cited also the old Alumbradoes who had the same opinion practices suteable CHAP. XV. Of Perseverance 1. In his ninth thesis he layeth down his judgment concerning that question first brought upon the stage by the subtile adversary of the grace of God Pelagius concerning the final Perseverance or full and final Apostasie of the Saints and hath since been agitated by Iesuites Socinians and Arminians and he asserteth two things first They in whom the light the seed the gift of God the inward sufficient grace for it hath many names hath wrought something to their purifying tending forward to a perfecting of them may goe backward and depart from it by disobedience That is in plainer termes for these men must have liberty to speak in their owne dialect They who are Regenerated Purified and Sanctified may Apostatize and fall from that state of Regeneration and Sanctification and in this he taketh part with Pelagians Iesuites Socinians Arminians against the orthodox Next He asserteth That some may attaine in this life to such a measure of fixedness and stability in the truth that they cannot fall away from it 2. It is observable that all such who in the doctrine of grace erre from the right pathes of the Lord and so speak and write of it as to exalt Man Free will and acknowledge nothing in the way of grace's working in souls first and last but what may consist with their project and resolution of setting the crown upon mans head as making himself to differ from others do also in correspondency with their oâ—her principles positions assert this full final Apostacy of the Saints for as they put it in mans power to accept or reject grace when offered so they put it in his power to stand in grace or depart from it as he pleaseth that man may be Lord of the whole and wear all the glory of it And therefore as they would admit nothing to be said concerning the Lords working of grace in the souls of his people that might in the least seem to encroach upon the Free Will of man though the Gospel doctrine of the grace of God rather advantageth than disadvantageth true Free Will so will they admit nothing to be said concerning the further progress of the work of this grace in the soul to the end that will not consist with Free Will 's absolute Lordshipe Smalcius hath said the matter fully in few words Refut lib. de Error nov Arian lib. 1. c. 1. p. 7. as it is free for all men saith he to beleeve who before were infidels when they have occasion to beleeve so againe it is free to all men after they have once beleeved to fall from faith 3. I cannot in the least wonder why this man should be for the Apostasie of the Saints when I consider what his Saints are and what his Principles formerly examined savoure of Nay I rather wonder how it cometh to passe that any of these he calleth or supposeth to be saints should ever come to that measure or fixedness of stability in good as not to depart therefrom Only because in his former Thesis as we heard in the former Chapter he asserted such a perfection attaineable as might put men out of all hazard or possibility of sinning he could not but now assert that such a state and degree of perfection that took away all possibility of sinning would also exclude a possibility of defection sin being that which only can make souls stagger and fall from their stability and defection being only by sin All the Grace Regeneration Sanctification which his saints attaine unto is as we saw above the pure and meer result of Natures Light and of the power of Nature without the least assistance as necessary of the outward sound and knowledge of the very letter of the declaration of God's minde in the Gospel or of the bare report of a crucified Saviour let be of
unnatural and anticque motions at their set times and solemnities which are here spoken of But I wonder whence this power of darkness cometh unto them to cause this inward battel and occasion this quaking we heard before that he said they were freed from the body of death and it was taken away so that they were made free from the Suggestions and Temptations of Satan and from actual sinning See his Eight Thesis and our Chap. XIV of Perfection or he must say that the immaculate birth he spoke of is not yet produced in them and consequently that they are not yet Justified nor Sanctified and so not yet Church-members according to his former doctrine But seing he will not acknowledge this But rather that they are the purest and only Church of Christ and are Justified and Sanctified yea and Perfected whence I say can this power of darkness come to oppose the workings of life and that when they are most devote turning-in unto themselves to waite upon God and upon the light and never but then when they are about this their solemne worshipe for we hear not much of their quakings at other times or is there alwayes a battel but they feel it not till they be about this Introversion And cometh this trembling alwayes upon their retireing inward or if not whence is it that it cometh more at one time that another Is it from the greatness of the opposition made by the power of darkness or from the greater sense thereof or both And whence doth the one or the other come more at one time than at another These things I would have cleared if he thought fit Againe is there no striveing betwixt light and darkness grace and corruption flesh and the Spirit in any beside them If not then all others must eitheir be all flesh or all Spirit and if this last these must be more perfect then they are If yea how cometh it that that combate in others causeth not such trembling and quaking as in them Is it because corruption in them is more violent then in others then their perfection is less Or is it because they are more sensible and their life is more quick their mindes more agitated and their spirits more stirred Yet I am sure there might be trembling and quaking of limbes and joynts more or less proportionably to the opposition or to the sense of it in others But the truth is whatever he feigne this trembling and quaking hath another cause and may confirme all rational men that their way is more of the Devil than of God let themselves think what they please 11. We have now heard of all the parts of their solemne Worshipe 1. Silence which is alwayes necessary and beginneth the action 2. speaking praying or singing as is immediatly suggested but this is not necessary for it may be wanting yet the whole solemne Worshipe be performed to edification neither is their speaking praying or singing such as is used in the Churches as we will hear afterward 3. Their Trembling Quaking though this it may be is not alwayes necessary yet it is peculiar unto them Let us hear how he explaineth or confirmeth these for it may be no other confutation will be necessary He saith § 9. p. 23. That their worshipe doth not consist in silence as silence Wherein then but in an holy and humble dependance of soul on God from which necessarily floweth silence in the first place Ans. Dependance on God is good and necessary and is a part of inward worshipe but we are here speaking of Outward and solemne worshipe and this silence must make a necessary part thereof for he sayes afterward we judge in the first place that there is a necessity of silence for some time both for speaker and hearer And he told us before that this silence may be continued all the time and not one word spoken and yet the worshipe be solemne and edifying and he saith the same immediatly thereafter Must not this be a fruitless and unedifying silence to others at least present But when he calleth it thus necessary there must be some thing more in it then we can at the first see or he will think fit to acquant us with as yet What more life saith he Pag. 232. might flow in every one and be increased so as words may also well be spoken by the influence of life and yet because it was imposed upon none necessarily they might all for the time rather choose to possesse God in quietness Ans. What this life is and what the flowings and increasings of it are we have seen But as to this Silence we say how cometh it that such in whom this life floweth do not speak Is not this a call sufficient how then dar they sit and disobey this call how dar they follow their owne choise Or is it no call that because a necessity was not imposed why then saith he that words might well be spoken by the influence of life Might words be spoken without an inward impulse and call no certainly according to his principles Where are we then 12. He goeth about to prove this their silence § 10. And for this end he tels us that to attend and waite upon God is a duty incumbent upon all and is a part of Worshipe And who denieth it Yet he citeth a number of Scriptures whereof none speak of such a waiting as he hath before pointed forth unto us accompanied with silence in the publick Worshipe of God for Ps. 27 14. speaketh of a waiting opposite to fainting through unbeleef or doubting to see the goodness and deliverance of God in the land of the living Psal. 37 7 34. speaketh of a waiting opposite to freting because of the prosperity of the wicked and a freting to do evil and so is a waiting for Gods pleading the oppressed mans cause is accompanied with a keeping of Gods way v. 34. not his waiting that layeth aside Gods way and Ordinances Prov. 20 22. speaketh of a waiting opposite to recompensing of evil Esai 30 18. is meant of a waiting for Godâ—s coming with redemption to Zion Hos. 12 6. speaketh of a waiting accompanied with keeping mercy judgment which is more than doing nothing Zach. 3 8. speaketh nothing of waiting These are out of the Old T. whereby I see that O. T. Scriptures will prove N. T. worshipe Now follow passages out of the New Test. Mat 24 42. 25 13. 26 41. Mark 13 33 35 37. Luk. 21 36. 1 Cor. 16 13. 1 Thes. 5 6. 2 Tim. 4 5. 1 Pet. 4 7. which speak of Watching of and such a Watching as is accompanyed with Prayer and all Christian Duties Col. 4 2. speaketh of a watching in Prayer and not of a waiâ—ing that puteth away Prayer Act. 1 4. is a waiting at Ierusalem till the promise of the Father came Act. 20 31. is a watching over the flock that it miâ—ht be keept from wolves The same line
QUAKERISME The path-way to PAGANISME Or A Vieu of the Quakers Religion BEING An Examination of the Theses and Apologie of Robert Barclay one of their number published lately in latine to discover to the World what that is which they hold and owne for the only true Christian Religion By JOHN BROWN Minister of the Gospel Printed for Iohn Cairns and other Booksellers in EDINBURGH ANNO MDC LXXVIII An EPISTLE to the READER CHRISTIAN READER Having in the following Discourse given as the Lord was pleased to helpe at some length yet with as much brevitie as the matter would suffer and thy good and edification which I was called to consult would permit my poor Testimony unto those precious Truths which are trode upon by this late Upstart generation of Quakers I shall not detaine thee long in the entrie Only let me say That as this impendent Pestilentious Cloud of Heathenish and Hellish Darkness which the Devil by the ministrie of these Locusts only Masculine in Malice against Christ being the very impure Spawn of perfect Antichristian Enmitie to our Lord Jesus his Person Offices Work Institutions and to the Whole of the blessed Gospel and in consonancy to that Hel-hatched designe breathing forth nothing but that putrid Poison that innate Serpentine Venome of manifest and mad Opposition to all the Mysteries of God concerning our Salvation which as they have implanted in them from their Father the Devil that it may appeare they are his very Children by working his works so they endeavoure to propagate to others hath now exhaled out of the bottomless Pit and by their Activity and Diligence Assisted by his Art and Prompted by his Spirit brought unto this Prevalency of darkening our Horizon and infecting so many even of such of whom sometimes better things were expected should as upon the one hand make all of us look back with griefe and fix our eyes upon our misimproving and abusing the faire day of the Gospel that we enjoyed until our eye affect our heart and we in the conviction of our hainous guilt in this matter the Nature and Aggravations of which are clearly enough seen in this judicial stroke which carrieth a Proportion both as to Kind and Degree with the Sin and is therefore much more dreadful then Famine Sword and Pestilence would be become humbled and sorrowful after a godly manner so upon the other hand the consideration hereof should raise in us a more high esteem for the Precious Interests of Jesus Christ and kindle in us more godly Zeal for his Truths Cause and make us heartily receive not only the Truth but the love of the Truth that we may be saved for the neglect of which Duty it was foretold and threatned 2 Thes. 2 11 12. that for this cause God shall send strong delusion that they to wit who received not the love of the truth should beleeve a lie that they all might be damned who beleeved not the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness When the Lion is roaring ought not we to tremble When the Jealous and Righteous God is sending on a generation of Undervaluers and Despisers of the great inestimable benefite of the Everlasting Gospel a sader stroke than his three great Plagues would be that should make populous Countreys and Cities waste and without Inhabitants in a very short time what Christian heart will not tremble and be afraied When the Lord sends upon a Land his three great Messengers of wrath which can but destroy the Body that must at length however return to the dust are not all called to consider their wayes and to turn unto the Lord How much more are we now called hereunto when the Lord is saying I will also chuse their delusions and is giving many up unto this Spirit of Delusion and Apostasie whereby some that have been formerly enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift c. put themselves under that terrible impossibility whereof the Apostle speaketh Heb. 6 6. Of being renewed againe unto Repentance seing they crucifie to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame and under that dreadful sentence Heb. 10 26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth there remaineth no more sacrifice for sinnes but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation which shall devoure the Adversaries and under that much sorer punishment ibid. vers 29. which they shall be thought worthy of who have troden under foot the Son of God and have counted the bloud of the Covenant wherewith He was sanctified an unholy thing and have done despite unto the Spirit of grace For I know not if ever there was a Seck of Hereticks and Apostats from the Truth once received since the Apostasie of the Iewes unto whom these passages are more truely and emphatically applicable than to the Apostat Quakers who at length shall know how fearful a thing it is to fall into the hands of the living God though now they be so bold wicked in their way that it is not enough for them to Apostatize from the Truth but they must also with a furious madness persecute the same Truth which their souls do now hate with their blasphemous mouthes and pens and with their railings and Rabshakeh-language reproach the Wayes of God and all who follow the same Sure I am a due pondering of the desperat Designe pernicious Wayes hellish Doctrine wicked Practices which these Emissaries of Satan project and follow-forth with a stupenduous activity should affect us otherwayes than alas we seem to be at present What are we asleep Are we not crying to the Lord night and day that he would arise and vindicate His own Truth when an enraged company of Runagadoes are destroying so far as they can the whole of our Religion and driving us back to Paganisme and betraying the whole of our sacred Interest into the hands of their Master the Devil Can we hear our blessed Lord and Saviour thus blasphemed as he is by this Paganish Antievangelick Seck of Quakers and not be so much moved with Indignation against them as even Turks who blasphemously assert our Lord to be no more than a Prophet inferiour to their deceiver Mahomet would be of whose just severity in punishing a Iew who in his rage striving with a Christian did blaspheme the blessed name of Iesus of Nazareth according to the sentence of one of their Muftees we have heard and found standing on record to the shame of Christians who have not so much Zeal for Him whom they profess to owne for the true and living God and for the only Son of God and Saviour of Man as Turks have for a Prophet of God Thus it ought not to be and a redress is called for at the hands of one and other according to their Place and Station And however it is the duty of all who love our Lord Jesus Christ and hope to see His face one
day with joy and of all who would carry as true and loyal Subjects unto Him and would not be charged with the guilt of this God-darring Christ-blaspheming and Spirit-despiting generation of the prodigiously profane and arrogant Seck of Runagad-Quakers to be this day holding them up in their addresses unto God by prayer to our Lord Jesus the righteous Judge as His sworn and stated Enemies and as standing in perfect Opposition to His Kingdom and Interest and to cry unto Him night and day that He would arise and appear against them and plead His own cause in His good time for the glory of His name as also to be mourning for those sinnes that have provoked the Just and Jealous God to suffer such Hellish Locusts to arise and darken with their pestiferous blasphemies all the Glorious Comfortable Truths of the Gospel and to be manifesting the truth and sincerity of our Repentance by the native and kindly effects thereof mentioned by Paul 2 Cor. 7 11. And if it were thus with us sure I am it would not be needful to say much to move all unto a fixed abhorrence of the Errours Wayes and Practices of these Men and to a fleeing from them as from Men carrying about with them the very Credentials of Hell and the Devils Commission to go forth and pervert the right wayes of the Lord and to destroy Souls We would not need to inculcate the duties already pressed in the Scriptures in reference to such Hereticks and false Teachers to wit to beware of them to avoide them turn away from them to reject them and not to receive them in our houses or salute them lest we should be partakers of their evil deeds Mat. 7 15. Rom. 16 17. Phil. 3 2. 2 Tim. 2 5. Tit. 3 10. 2 Ioh. vers 10 11. For every one would of his own accord by a special Christian instinct flee from them more hastily then from persons having the blak botch upon the account that when these could endanger only the Body those were actively seeking to destroy the precious Soul And all who feared to fall under that sad sentence of summar Excommunication from Heaven Anathema Maranatha durst ever enter into a friendly communing with them have any followshipe with them or give them the least token of kindness and affection by word or deed yea or by a cast of the eye let be by more homely Discoursings and Conversings And it is more then probable that if this course had been followed with them at the first they had not prevailed so much as they have done to our Shame Sin and Sorrow this day O that this were yet thought upon and amended Much less would there be any necessity to use much seriousness in disswading all who had any love to their own souls from hearkning to their discourses even though assurance were had which who that know what their Principles and Designes are can expect that they should say nothing but what is consonant to Truth seing it will be easily granted that the Devil speaking in whomsoever and uttering whatsomever should not be listned unto lest afterward he cause these same persons either question or deny these same truths because held and declared by such who by their other abominable Errours declare whose Slaves and Emissaries they are beside the advantage he hath when he getteth an hearing ear to distil and insensibly drop-in soul-destroying venome suggared over with faire Speeches and plausible Insinuations Moreover were all affected with this matter as they ought to be there would not be much need of Arguments disswading from a Perusal and Reading of their Scripts and Pamphlets For this impression would prompt them to an abhorrence of such Libels against the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ against blessed Jesus of Nazareth of whom these Quakers say as their Father the Devil did before them what have we to do with thee thou Ieâ—us of Nazareth And against the holy Spirit of grace Is it not obvious to all that beside the advantage the Devil hath in our losse of so much precious time spent in reading of their heretical and blasphemous writings which may be one end why the Devil prompteth them to be at so much paines and charges to Write and Printe so many pernicious Scripts and distribute them so freely he hath this also that the reading of their Impertinent Reavings in and about the holy things of God and with all of their Presumptuous and ridiculously confident Assertions doth oft excite the Reader to laughter who should rather be weeping over the manifest Effrontry done to the holy and precious Truths of God and Indignity done to the Holy Lord when His name is thus taken in vaine And much more when the reading of their Blasphemous and Outragious Speaches against the Holy One of their Profane and Temerarious Abusings and Wrestings of the holy Word of Truth of their Audacious and Wicked Overturnings of the whole Gospel of the grace of God of their Subdolous and Craftie Undermining of the Fundamental points of our Religion of their Supercilious and Effronted Rejectings of and Mockings at the sacred Truths of God and of their Irreverent and Fearless Prattings about the Mysteries of Divine and Unsearchable Wisdom cannot but insensibly debauch the spirit of the Reader into at least unsutable thoughts about these great Matters if he be not more then ordinarily ballasted with the apprehension of the dreadful Majestie of that God whose Truths these are The consideration of which should me thinks coole our Curiosity and cause us even when some necessity is laid upon us which we cannot evite to read them as when called to write against them and to discover their abominable and blasphemous Assertions for preventing of further mischiefe a necessitie that lyeth not upon every one of our Common People to live nigh to God and to be oft praying for a stayed frame of heart that our spirits be not debauched by the reading of such things as have a native tendency thereunto nor place be given to one thought of these great and glorious matters as if they were but indifferent or of small moment Who can dive into the depths of Satan the mysteries of their Blasphemies and Abominations and not be in hazard of receiving hurt thereby if the Lord do not strengthen and steel the Soul Finally were we as we ought to be there would be no necessity of dehorting any from giving countenance in the least unto their Synagogues of Satan and Diabolical Conventicles where some out of curiosity or some other corrupt ends sisting themselves within the jurisdiction of Satan who there reigneth being there solemnly Served and Worshiped have been as the Quakers themselves do boast and this R. Barclay professeth himself to be a clear instance catched by the Devil and made to drink of the same Cup of Delusion with the rest and to devote themselves to the same service of the Enemy of God and of Mankinde in which these
Master-workers are so active and busie It is not good to approach too nigh to a rageing Devil nor to tempt the Lord The history of the two persons that would be present at stage playes is known and the Reader may see the same related to his hand by the worthy Author of the first Epistle to the Reader prefixed to Mr Durham's Exposition of the Commands Let any sober and judicious person consider that which these Quakers call their Solemne Worshipe as this R. Barclay hath laid it forth before us and judge whether there be not there to be found without any narrow search such plaine Vestiges of Devilrie that may cause all in whom is the least meaâ—ure of the fear of God run far from them as from persons possessed with an evil Spirit and acted by the Devil the God of this world the Prince of the power of the aire the Spirit that now ruleth in the Children of disobedience Nothing that I ever heard or knew of them before did so much confirme me of their Devilrie as the reading and examining of that which thou hast here Chap. XXII Beside that every one may know that it is something more then Humane for persons Illiterat and of meane Understandings when turning Quakers to learne in so short a time in a few dayes if not in a few houres all their Notions Errours Blasphemies Prancks and Practices all so contrary to the Way and Profession wherein they have lived from their Infancy that they can act their wayes and utter their Abomination in their very dialect and tone so exactly as if they had seen nothing else all their dayes to speak nothing of Persons civilly educated who yet turning Quakers can so suddenly and so perfectly imitate and follow their rude and rustick carriage as if they had never seen civility with their eyes All which may confirme Rational Persons that it is not humane but the work of some powerful Spirit possessing them And what this Spirit is which Teacheth Possesseth Prompteth Acteth Leadeth and Driveth them and Speaketh in them the Word of God doth sufficiently evidence and may satisfie all Christians By the fruit we know a tree and by their doctrine we may as infallibly know that it is the Spirit of Satan that rageth in them if we will be satisfied with and submit to the Decision of the Spirit of Truth speaking in the Scriptures Their Unsavoury Pernicious and Blasphemous Positions and Assertions will put this matter beyond all debate I have gathered together an heap of such to the Number of Three Hundered and Fiftie and moe and the Reader may possibly finde yet moe that have escaped me and that without noticeing such things as may be drawn by just consequence from their Positive Assertions for if these were collected we might soon finde out the number of the Name of the Beast Six hundereth Sixty and Six to which may be added Sixty and Five found in one book of G. Keiths set down here at the end after the Postscript by which thou mayest judge what a Masse would be found if all their Books were searched But I suppose the fearer of God will say there is here enough and more then enough to cause all Christians abhore them and flee from them as from the Devil himself I shall not trouble thee with any Apologie for the work it self Only because I apprehend some will think I am too large and might have contracted the whole into narrower bounds I must tell thee that considering the genius and temper of these Quakers and knowing how ready they would be to vaunt and triumph as if any thing they said were unanswerable if I had passed over any thing said by their Patron and Advocat and had not examined particularly not only his Erronious and Blasphemous Assertions but also all that he did alledge for confirmation of the same and also all that he belched out against the Truth I was constrained to leave nothing untouched and that the book might be of more universal use I saw a necessitie of clearing and confirming the Truths Opposed by other Grounds and Arguments then this Contradicter of the wayes of Truth had taken any notice of And yet I have done it with that brevitie that maketh me apprehend Moe shall blame me upon the other hand for not confirming the Turths at greater length seing as to several Heads here touched Others now a dayes beside Quakers are appearing against the Truth once received The Heads it is true are many and I have in most for confirmation adduced only our Confession of Faith and Catechismes to the end that one and other may be enduced to peruse that book more as a good Antidote against the many Errours of this time pointing withall the Readers to apposite passages of Scripture for the ground of their faith And if I had handled each Controversie here touched at full length how many volumes should I have been necessitate to have written What intertainment this shall finde with the Quakers a sort of Men that cannot be silent I am not much concerned to enquire And if they examine it as Rats or Mice use to deal with books snatching at a word here and at half a sentence there and no more I suppose no man will think me called to notice the fame nor yet to be troubled at their Railings and Barkings And as for any answere to the whole that shall savoure of Reason Religion Candor and Plainness I do not expect it from them Farewell J. B. A Catalogue Of the arrogant erroneous and blasphemous Assertions of the Quakers mentioned in this book which may serve for an Index to the same 1. Of themselves 1. THey arrogantly stile themselves the servants of God c. 3 10 2. They glory of the Title Quakers 4 3. They account themselves the only Teachers of truth equalizing themselves with the Apostles 9 4. They say they are perfect without sin 11 5. They assert their experiences in matters that cannot be experienced 213 6. They say they only taste see and smell the Inward light 240 7. All their preaching is to call people to turn-in to the light within and to the Christ within them 281 292 8. They assert themselves to be equal with God 326 546 9. They say their quaking ariseth from a strugling within betwixt the power of life and the power of darkness whereby they have the very paines of a woman in travail 418 10. All is done without the Spirit that is not done in their way 440 442 447 11. They remaine covered when we pray or praise to keep their consciences unhurt as they say but really to mock 460 12. It can appear to them when the Spirit of the Lord concurreth with one of our Ministers and when not 460 13. They falsly say that all who are against them maintaine the lawfulness of Comoedies vanity of Apparel 533 534 14. They account their doctrine very harmonious think that to them alone the ancient
denomination to a more adequate distinguishing title we must with his favour use the old though he should think that we used it only ironically If he say that his meaning is That all those who ironically in his judgment are called by others Quakers should go under that distinguishing character title which he assumeth to himself so be discriminated from all other persons of the Christian world by the Name Stile of The Servants of the Lord God Then indeed beside that his latine conjunction et will not well admit of that construction or sense we must of necessity cast away our Bibles as no more to be regairded than the Turks Alcoran which it is like they would gladly have us do before we be induced to owne them as such 7. His Salutation being a wish of sincere repentance unto the acknowledgment of the truth is good in it self but what his perverse meaning is cannot be hid and I shall not here anticipate a clear full manifestation of the perversness of his meaning our following discourse will abundantly discover that Only I adde that I think all true Christians should repay him his Associats with a full measure of the like kinde shaken together pressed downe runing over If it can stand with the unchangable purpose of God 8. Having thus described himself the party for whom he appeareth to prevent our mistake in the next place he bespeaketh those he directeth his Theses unto and first he would perswade them that his following propositions being read viewed in the fear of God will discover simple naked plaine truth But though he both in his Theses in his large Book holdeth forth his meaning more plainely nakedly than heretofore others of his perswasion have doneê° so far as I could observe in which I must needs commend him yet I dar not say that he is in all things so clear distinct as I could have wished as I shall have occasion to note hereafter And whereas he thinketh that such as read view his Theses in the fear of God will observe simple naked plaine truth I must needs judge him to be in a mistake to speak thus through the blindness of prejudice for after all the reading pondering of them that I can make and I hope in the fear of God I cannot come to that light or perswasion for I finde them to be a Farrago of errours old late patch'd up in a bundle sometimes set off with dark enigmatick expressions which can no way suite plaine simple naked truth 9. Secondly he goeth on inveigheth in a subdolous manner against all humane learning that hath been any way made use of in Theology not spareing even usefull Commentaries written upon the Scriptures complaining that the whole of the worthy labours of pious orthodox writers hath but darkned the Truth an hundered fold more than it was in itself I will be loath so far to contradict him as to say that through the corruption of man Satan improving the abilities of some to his own wicked ends there is nothing of this too true for as in all ages so never more than in this present Satan's wicked designes have been are carried on by the writings of men of corrupt mindes darkening the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ perverting the Tâ—uth as it is in Jesus Yet I must needs say that though his single sheet of Theses beareth no great bulk it hath in its designe contributed nevertheless no small assistance unto the corrupting darkning of the Saving truth of God yea I may saifly say more than any or many of the volumes at which he carpeth Nay I doubt if more errour pernicious in it self dangerous to souls shall be found amongst the heterodox writers themselves couched up in lesser yea or in so little bounds as is his single sheet of Theses than is to be found here It is usual with this sort of men as it was with their forefathers or fore runners to cry downe learning books Iohn Matthize at Munster after a revelation from heaven as he pretended commanded all books to be brunt except the bible I nothing doubt but that had been commanded to be burnt with the first if he had not seen how odious that would have made him how it had crossed his corrupt designes And they ordinarily cry out against Learning Schools of learning what they intend hereby is so obviously notour that it cannot be hid for if all books were once destroyed all learning once banished away how easily might they prevail with their errours lead captive silly people with their faire flourishes of glorious-like expressions make faire way unto their dreames pretended Revelations to their setting up their Diana the Light within their Scripture all But they know that the learned judicious having read of the Pranks Pretensions of men of their stamp in former ages of the heterodoxies of men corrupt as to the faith of their grounds in all former ages will soon be in case to detect their pernicious errours deceits now againe revived brought up from the bottemless pit discover their abominations which by all meanes possible they would carefully prevent I should judge it superfluous unnecessary upon this occasion to digresse shew the usefulness necessity of learning of books writen for our help to understand the truth the minde of God revealed in his word whether by particular Treatises writen on particular practical subjects or by more general Treatises clearing up the whole body of divinity or by Commentaries on one or moe particular places or books of holy Scripture seing the labours of the worthy painful servants of Christ in this kinde speak sufficiently for themselves 10. He complaineth moreover that the world is overburthened with books wherein I acknowledge he speaks not far amisse But I would faine know why he his party contribute their assistance to the making of this burthen heavier It is sufficiently known how busie they are in scribling troubling the world with their Pamphlets and though his sheet of Theses did not adde much weight unto the oppressing burthen of books under which he said the world was groaning yet his Apology consisting of moe than fiftie sheet in a large quarto addeth some considerable weight 11. He inveigheth also against disputes debates or books written of that nature calling them altercations thus would condemne all the useful works of the faithful vindicators of Truth against hereticks other erroneous persons among the rest all that have been written against Papists Pelagians Arminians others of whose dregs he hath made a mass framed it into fifteen Piles to be swallowed by such as love death that they may the more easily goe over hath painfully laboured to guild them over with his voluminous Apology But I
preaching to save them that believe and make it their work to preach Christ crucified even Christ the power of God and the wisdome of God And on the other hand what enemies to Christ to his Cross to the Preaching of His Truth and to all His Ordinances he and his party are we may have occasion to shew ere all be done And I am not afrayed to say that they will be found among the Chief Enemies of the cross of Christ howbeit he would faine equalize them to the Apostles whom I supposeth he meaneth by the fisher men he mentioneth Hereby also we can see that this new Seck would faine become yea make themselves the only Compurgators of all that hithertil hath been written in Theology and from them alone we must expect the indices expurgatorii which will only except or reserve some writings of Papists Pelagians Semipelagians Arminians Enthusiasts Anabaptists Perfectionists Antiscripturists Libertines and of such as are against the Ministery and the Ordinances of Christ or some special pieces of their writings which serve to confirme his sentiments which are an Hotch Potch made up of the Quintessence of all these and for the rest that any way contradict him they will have but one sentence and censure passed against them viz all is naught It is remarkable also that according to this Mans judgment the pure and naked Truth of god was never unfolded and declared until this Generation of Quakers arose and if some of themselves be to be believed it is far from half an age since they appeared in our Horizon which neither agreeth with truth nor with himself 16. He tels the Clergy That God thrust downe the wise men c. and hath chosen some few despicable and unlearned persons as to Scholastick learning as he did of old fishermen to publish his pure and naked truth by whom no doubt he meaneth himself and his fraternity for which we have nothing but his own assertion If their call be thus immediate and extraordinary it can be evidenced by such characters of credentials as may rationally satisfie any man concearning it and what these characters are I would gladly understand The Apostle Paul hath told us that the Spirit speaketh expresly that in the later times some shall depairt from the faith giving heed to seduceing Spirits and doctrines of devils speaking lies in hypocrisie having their consciences seared with an hote yron 1 Tim. 4 1 2. And how fitly this will quadrate with this sort of men the sequel will evince The same Apostle hath told us in that same Epistle Chap. 5 3 4 5. That who ever consent not to wholesome words the words of our Lord Iesus Christ and to the doctrine which is according to godliness is proud or a fool as the margine hath it knowing nothing but doteing about questions and strifes of words whereof cometh envy striâ—e railings evil surmiseings perverse disputings of men of corrupt mindes and destitute of the truth supposeing that gaine is godliness from which he adviseth Timothy and us all in him to with draw He describeth also in his second Epistle a sort of men whom he would have shuned saying Chap. 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. This know also that in the last dayes perillous times shall come for men shall be lovers of their own selves covetous boasters proud blasphemers disobedient to Parents unthankful unholy without natural affection trucebreakers false accusers or make bates as it is in the margine incontinent fierce despisers of those that are good traitours heady high minded lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God having the forme of godliness but denying the power thereof from such turne away for of this sort are they which creep into houses and lead captive silly women laden with sins led away with diverse lusts ever learning and never able to come to the knowledg of the truth And how appâ—sitely these all or the most of them agree to this generation of Men a few words might evince if it were my present business But all that I now designe is to evince a necessity laid upon us to try Pretenders before we trust them especially such pretenders as are thus described by the Apostle 17. As concearning these fisher men he mentioneth and to whom he compareth himself and his complices by whom I imagine he meaneth the Apostles except Paul who was no fisher man but was learned being brought up at the feet of Gamaliel I would enquire at him if he thinketh that they did publish the naked and pure truth If so he must know that we desire only to follow that as we have it recorded to us in the Scriptures of truth which he and his party do not much value And I would ask further How it cometh to pass that there is such a discrepancy and contradiction betwixt what these Apostles did teach and what he and the rest of the Quakers do teach Truth sure and pure and naked truth cannot be contrary to it self And if he say that there is no difference betwixt his doctrine and the truth delivered by the Apostles he must not be offended if we try the same by their writings and make use of what light within we have to this effect 18. It is not enough for him falsly to accuse all thaâ— have written of Theology of darkning and obscuring the truth but he must also usurpe the throne of God and judge of the heart and intentions of men for he alleidgeth that this was their end That the poor common people might admire them and maintaine them which carryeth as little truth in it as it evidenceth Christian charity in the asserter But we must not storme at such reflexions from the men whose woâ—ks declare what Spirit they are of Nor shall I retaliat though I might nor enquire what way they are maintained it is enough that there are shreud presumptions that their stock lyeth at Rome 19. Whatever we think of them they will needs look upon themselvs as the only called and authorized dispensers of the Gospel for he sayeth that God hath made choise of some few despicable and illiterate persons to publish the pure and naked truth and among the rest of himself to be a dispenser of this Gospel So that among them all are equal administrators and dispensers of this their Gospel for they have no select officers especially set apart for this work and so with them all are eyes eares c. and their body is no organical body so that their Church if their combination may with any propiety of speach be called a Church must needs be a monster But passing this which sufficiently discovereth what enemies they are to Gospel Order and to the institutions of Christ in his Church of which more when we come to his Tenth Thesis we think ourselves concearned to know what for a Gospel this is which they pretend to a mission to preach Sure it is not that which Christ and his Apostles taught and left on record
unto life because it hath no place in his writings 14. The like 10. may we say of the work of Grace and of Sanctification of which his account is so darke and enigmatical that it is far from an holding forth of pure and naked Truth And how cometh it that he is so silent in explaining to us the nature of Faith in Jesus Christ and of its Actings and of Repentance unto life and of our Communion with the Father and his Son through Faith do not these appertain to that knowledge of God which is Eternal Life What shall we then think of this Gospel which He taketh upon him to be a publisher of 15. In the next place 11. To speak nothing of the law of God in obedience whereunto with a right frame of Spirit consisteth true Sanctification and that Obedience which is a real mark of true Love to God and so must be necessarily known to the end we may come to the possession of Eternal life whereof notwithstanding he not only giveth no plaine or naked account but also with the rest of the Quakers layeth downe grounds destroying all obedience to the law of God as we shall heare How cometh it that in all his explication of the true nature and original of that knowledge which leadeth unto life whether in his Theses or Apologie we have no account given to us of that Eternal life which we are to aime at and intend as our last end nor yet of its opposite Eternal Death and Hell whereby we might come to know some thing of the nature worth and necessity of Glory 16. Yet once more 12. I would aske why it is that in his Theses he giveth us no account of the Resurrection of the Body nor of the last Judgment He cannot say that the knowledge and faith of these particulars are not necessary unless he be of the same opinion with other Quakers who either speak dubiously thereof or do down right deny it Mr. Hicks sheweth us in his Book called The Quakers appeal answered Pag 21. that one Whitehead asserted in the hearing of many witnesses that this body shall not rise againe and that Will. Pen in his Book intituled Reas. against Rail Pag. 133. saith That it is inconsistent with Scripture Reason and the beliefe of all Men right in their wits And Pag. 134. that the absurdity of the Transubstantiation is rather outdone than equalled by this carnal Resurrection And that Pag. 138. he called it a Barbarous conceit Shall I think that this our Apologizer is of the same minde If not it concerneth him to speak more positively thereunto for his silence will go for an approbation of what his party speak expresly and further as concerning the last Judgment we may suppose that such as look on the Resurrection of the dead as a figment will give no place in their creed unto the doctrine of Christs coming againe to judge quick and dead and indeed I finde in the second Dialogue of Mr. Hicks Pag 42 43 that Whitehead in his Christ ascend Pag. 18 20 21 69. denyeth That Christ hath a personal being at the Right-hand of God without all men And Pag. 2â— that he denyeth That he shall come visibly againe saying that they are like to be deceived who are expecting that Christs second comeing will be a personal comeing And I finde G. Keith in his Immediat Revel Pag. 77. applying the second or next comeing againe of Christ mentioned by Iames Cap. 5 7 8. by Paul Heb. 9.28 and by Peter 1 Pet 1 13. to Christs revelation when he shall appeare in us glorified who before was crucified in weakness yet now raised in power and living by the power of God and raising us up together with him setting us in heavenly places in him Whereby he cannot but meane a second coming againe of Christ which is already past and nothing else 17. By these particulars several others which might be added every one may judge what a delineation of that knowledge which leadeth to Salvation this confident man will give us in these his Theses when so many so important and so necessary and essential parts of our Christian faith are not once by him mentioned or asserted let be cleared up or explained but rather tacitely or expresly rejected and condemned We may also judge what that knowledge of God wherein is life eternal is which he shall pointe forth to us in his Theses when so many things so manifestly belonging to true divine and saving knowledge are if not denied yet waved by him as not necessary to be known and believed Hereby also we see ground to suspect that Original and Foundation of knowledge which he followeth and would propose to our understanding faith in the two next following Theses for either that must be a false Original and rotten Ground of saving knowledge or he is yet a stranger to the true and genuine Knowledge thereof otherwise he should be in case to give us a more distinct faithful account of these and such like particulars which are so necessary to be known and believed 18. I Shall readily grant that it is very necessary and usefull to know what is the true ground and original out of which we are to draw that knowledge of God and of his wayes which is necessary for us to know and believe in order to the obtaining of that felicity which consisteth in and is had further by the knowledge of God in Christ not only because many are ready to drink-in false Notions and Principles as he sayeth but very obscurely and indistinctly in his Apology Pag. 1. and 2. of God and of his Truth to hold fast what they have so through Ignorance Misinformation and Prejudice imbibed but especially because so many Pretenders to high and great matters as he and his like are ready to imbrace a Shadow for a Substance and take a suggestion of Satan the Father of lies or a dream of their own braines or a lying Vision of the Prince of the powers of the aire for Revelations and Manifestations of the God of Truth and the Motions of their own corrupt minds enlightned with the wildfire of their owne fancies or the fire flaughts of the God of this World for the Motions of the â—pirit of God That such things have been and may be himself dar not deny and if he should deny it sad experience of the fantastick Enthusiasts and false Teachers which every age hath produced will put it beyond all denyal as also the Idolatry and Superstition of so many Nations and People as himself affirmeth Pag. 2. which were a clear evidence of the false and fictious Opinions and Apprehensions which they had of God and a fruite of the false Divinations and pretended Revelations which they trusted to And therefore with good warrand and with his own approbation I shall say That it is a most dangerous thing to lay a wrong foundation of Knowledge and to draw the same out of
a corrupt Original and that we ought to be sure that the Ground and Original of our Knowledge be such as we may saifly trust to and build upon But whether the Original which He and other Quakers do follow and which he would prescribe unto us be the true and genuine Original and Ground of saving Knowledge he must allow us liberty seing the danger here is great as himself confesseth and such as enter not by the door are Theevs and Robbers to examine and to try whether the Ground he holdeth forth be Saife or the Ground we build upon be not Sufficient CHAP. III. Of inward and immediat Revelations 1. The maine scope of his second Thesis which is concerning Inward and Immediat Revelations is to give us the true and genuine understanding of the right original and fundation of Knowledge So that this Thesis must point out unto us this Original and Ground of true and saving Knowledge and by the title which he hath prefixed unto this Thesis we learne that his opinion is that Inward and Immediat Revelation is the only right Original and Foundation of Knowledge and this Inward and Immediat Revelation is given us in place of the holy Scriptures as his adjoining the third Thesis concerning the Scriptures and what he saith of them therein make manifest 2. We should now come to the examination of what he saith of this Inward and Immediat Revelation but in the entry of his explication of this Thesis in his Apology Pag 4. we are staved off by a hudge Preoccupation and meet with a dangerous Dilemma for either we must give our assent unto what he saith in this Thesis or bear the stigma and blake mark of Carnal and Natural Christians ignorant of the motions and operations of the Spirit of God in our hearts But perceiving an open way of escapeing from betwixt the hornes of his dilemma and waving his uncharitable censure of such as oppose him as being not only strangers to these motions of the Spirit in their hearts but as accounting them no way necessary yea as mocking them as foolish and ridiculous and much more to this purpose wherein as he manifesteth what Spirit he is of and with what Spirit he is led so he bewrayeth much ignorance of the minde and assertions of his Opposites which would be both endless and unprofitable for me once to take any notice of let be to answere seing a simple contempt of his Calumnies is sufficient Waveing I say these his impertinencies as the native fruite of his imbittered Spirit against all that do not applaud his wilde Notions I shall tell him that I cordially give my assent unto that of Paul Rom. 8 9 14. now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his For as many as are led by the Spirit of God they are the Sones of God And I know no Christian whether Private Person or Doctor Minister or Divine that will not homologate with me in this howbeit he flander us as not only denying this but also as contradicting it 3. But he would hence deduce that no Knowledge of God can be acquired without a Divine and Immediat Revelation and for this cause he distinguisheth betwixt a Certane and an Vncertane a Spiritual and a Literal a Saving and an Empty Aery and Brainy Knowledge of God and sayeth the One can be many wayes acquired but the Other not without an Inward and Immediate Manifestation of the Spirit of God shineing in the heart and enlightening the understanding By which we see what Darkness and Confusion occupieth this mans minde and how either through blinde Ignorance or wicked Prevarication he laboureth to pervert the true state of the Question and leadeth his Readers into the same ditch of Ignorance and Prejudice wherein himself is fallen If he cannot we know how to distinguish betwixt the Spirits Inward and Immediat Revealing and making known the minde of God as he did of old unto the Prophets and Apostles whether by Dreames Visions Vive voice or inward efficacious Inspirations and the Spirits gracious In-working and Impressing the Truthes other wayes revealed and made known mediatly upon the soul of a man giving him through the spiritual Illumination of his minde and the gracious and effectual Moving of his heart grace to See to Imbrace and to Close with and savingly Improve the Truths revealed These things which are most manifestly distinct clearly different he is pleased either out of meer Ignorance or our of Designe all alongs to jumble together and confound that he might the more darken the Reader and prejudge him both of the right state of the Question and at the orthodox truth which he maliciously misrepresenteth The difference betwixt these two Operations of the Spirit without running forth here into a tedious and unnecessary digression for the clear information of the Reader and for preventing our further labour afterward we shall thus make plaine and manifest The first Operation of the Spirit mentioned is that which he the rest of the Quakers endeavoure to assert plead for in prejudice of the Scriptures which now to us under the New Testam supplieth richly and with advantage the want of the Immediat and Extraordinary Revelations of the minde and will of God concerning duty whether as to Faith or Practice by which the Lord was pleased formerly after diverse manners and wayes to make the same known The other which we assert and maintaine is an Efficient and not Objective Revelation and confirmeth the authority and truth of the Objective Revelation of the minde of God both touching Faith and Manners and so reserveth to the Scriptures their due place as our compleet Objective Canon and Rule and confirmeth them therein bringing home with power and saving grace upon the heart the Truths therein revealed and casting the soul into the mould of these saving Truths The One which they plead for taketh away all the use of the letter of the Scriptures all the study thereof or all the paines to be used in Acquireing the knowledge of the Original tongues in Reading of Commentaries for attaining to the knowledge of the letter in Preaching and Hearing of preachings in Useing other meanes for reaching the knowledge of the Truths delivered in the Scriptures The Other which we maintaine presupposeth in ordinary this knowledge of the letter of the Scriptures and the use of means contributing thereunto as a meane appointed of God whereby we may come through his Grace cooperating on our Understandings Wils unto the saving soul-captivating knowledge of the same Truths As the saving and gracious beleeving and improving of the Truths of God revealed of old by his immediatly and extraordinarily inspired Prophets unto others did presuppose their hearing and understanding the letter of what these Prophets and extraordinary Messengers revealed as the minde of God and did not destroy and make useless that meane as the way of Quakers would necessarily have done for they alleidge
take notice of it 6 In his § 4. He would have us beleeving that he doth not hereby condemne all other second wayes or meanes as he purposeth to cleare in the next Thesis that is all other Wayes and Modes of attaining to the knowledge of God for he granteth these to be profitable and that they may conduce to facilitate the work but he is here pleading as he saith for that which is absolutely necessary But all the question is concerning the true meaning and import of that which he accounteth so Necessary if it be such Revelations of Truths as the Prophets and such as were Immediatly inspired had and as Enthusiasts plead for I deny the necessity hereof and as to this what way I pray can other meanes and modes as the Scriptures conduce to facilitate these Revelations have they any influence upon the person who is to receive these Revelations disposeing him thereunto Let him explaine this and then he may hear what shall be further replied If the thing so necessary unto the saving knowledge of God be only that operation of the Spirit which we mentioned above we assent and only say That he should speak more intelligibly than call this an Inward and Immediat Revelation But it is usual with this sort of men to speak as did the Libertines against whom Calvin wrote Cap. 2. after an high and loftie manner as if they were alwayes ravished in an ecstasy for as they alwayes have the Spirit in their mouth so they use a strange idiome that such as hear them are at the first amazed and this they affect of purpose to deceive their hearers and raise in them an admiration of them and their Opinions 7. Having thus premised what he thought fit to say to cleare the Question and to make way for vindicating of his Thesis he cometh next to the explication and confirmation of his Assertion in his Thesis where he tels us of five particulars 1. That there is no knowledge of the Father but by the Son 2. That there is no knowledge of the Son but by the Spirit 3. That God did alwayes reveal himself by the Spirit 4. That these Revelations were the formal object of the faith of the Saints 5. That the same object of faith remaineth He nameth here we see the Father the Son and the Spirit and we might readily think that he would here hold forth the order of working of the glorious Persons of the Trinity in things without ad extra and particularly in the Revelation of the mind of God concerning mans duty But whether we may rest perswaded that his judgment herein is Orthodox and that verily he beleeveth that there are Three Persons in the God head equal in Power and Glory of one Substance and Duration may be a doubt partly because the Light within which to him is the supream and only adequate Rule of Faith cannot teach this mysterie and hence it is that the Socinians not only will not admit this as an article of their creed but do also with much industry and rage oppose it and mainly upon this ground that their Natural Reason or the light within them which upon the matter so far as I can judge differeth not from the Light of the Quakers cannot comprehend it and partly because I finde other Quakers such as those of New England and those against whom Mr Stalham wrote as I hinted above denying it It is true this man hath several expressions further in the words following which would seem to evince that he is orthodox herein and there are some also that may seem to look another way But not purposeing to make more debate with him than I must needs do I shall not fix any thing upon him for which I see not clear ground only I wish that the next time he cometh forth in publick he would be more plain and positive as to this 8. As to the first of the forementioned Propositions It is true that no man knoweth the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son will reveal him Matth. 11 27. Luk. 10 22. for no man hath seen God at any time the only begotten Son which is in the bosome of the Father he hath declared him Ioh. 1 18. and God who at sundry times and in diverse manners spake in times past unto the Fathers by the Prophets hath in these last daies spoken unto us by his Son c. Hebr. 1 1 2. and so the Son of God the Second Person of the Trinity being the true Eternal God of the same substance and equal in power and glory with the Father when the fulness of time was come took upon Him mans nature so that the Word was made flesh and tabernacled among us Ioh 1 14 to the end that He might execute his Offices and among the rest declare the whole Counsel of God concerning mans Salvation as the great Prophet and Teacher of Israel But shall we suppose that this Man looketh upon Iesus of Nazareth of whom the Father said Mat 17 5. This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased heare yee him to be this Son that revealeth the Father and to be that grand mystery God manifest in the flesh justified in the Spirit seen of Angels preached unto the Gentiles belâ—eved on in the World received up into glory 1 Tim. 3 16 The reason of my doubt is this because I finde some Quakers give a very indistinct and unsatisfying answere to such a question as this and give ground to suppose that they understood nothing by the Words being made flesh but the Light within them But his proof and explication of this Proposition is observable Pag. 9. He proveth it thus Because God who is the root and fountaine of all operation made all things by his eternal word Son and citeth Ioh. 1 1 2 3. Ephes. 3 9. If hereby he understand the first Creation with the orthodox how shall he evince this Consequence That because God created all things in the beginning by his Son Jesus Christ Therefore there is no knowledge of the Father but by his Son and is this a point so difficult to be proved that he was constrained to run back to the first Creation for an argument This would justly give ground of suspicion that the man meaneth by the Creation in the places cited not the First but the Second Creation with which Christs Revelation of the Father hath a more clear and natural connection and so joyneth with Socinus and his followers Enjedinus Smalcius and Schlightingius in denying upon this account Christ to be God creating all They say that when the Scripture saith God made all things by the Word c. the meaning is God made all things by his owne word and vertue the same expression which this Man useth here and thus interpret and apply the same Scriptures which he here citeth even that Ioh. 14 6. But admitting that he taketh the Creation in the orthodox sense we may observe
some other Abomination lurking under this To wit That this manifestation of the Father by the Son is not to be understood of a Gospel Manifestation but of a Natural Manifestation had in and by the works of Creation and so not of a Manifestation peculiar to the Church and people of God but of a Manifestation common to Heathens and all without the pale of the Church otherwise he shall hereby destroy what afterward he laboureth to build viz. the Universality of this Manifestation But whoever considereth the Scriptures by us cited shall finde that Christ meaneth a manifestation and declaration of the Father in and by the Gospel and Gospel Ordinances to the destruction of this mans Universality 9. He cometh § 6. to the clearing of his second Proposition viz. That there is no knowledge of the Son but by the Spirit And who will deny this as to that Knowledge which is truely and eventually saving of which Saving Certane and Necessary Knowledge his Proposition is to be understood as himself expresly showeth us with an Observandum and 1 Cor. 2 11 12. 12 3. whereby he proveth this are cleare enough but I see not the necessity of adduceing as a proof hereof Revel 3 20. behold I stand at the door c. Yet beside this Saving knowledge there is a Literal knowledge had by the common gifts of the Spirit which is also true in its kinde and though as to any Saving Effect it be Ineffectual yet we must not say with him Pag. 12. that the Spiritual Truths in the Gospel are as lies in the mouth of carnal persons for they are true even as to them Heb. 10 26. Some may sin wilfully after they have received the knowledg of the truth for whom no more sacrifice remaineth and 2 Pet. 2 20 21. Some may have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Iesus Christ and have known the way of righteousness who after they have known it turne from the holy commandement c. I cannot then say with him that this Knowledge of Christ is no more properly to be called a Knowledge of Christ than the speaking of a Parot is properly humane knowledge for I cannot think that when Christ sent Iudas to preach the Gospel it was as a man sending an ambassage by the hand of a Parot or that Balaam had no real knowledge of what was revealed unto him in his trance 10. But not insisting on this which is not much to the maine purpose I Observe that the thing which concerned him chiefly to clear up provâ— is not once touched by him here He should have proved tâ— us That this teaching of Christ by the Spirit is and was alwayes by Immediat Revelation that is by Enthusiasmes and such Extraordinary Wayes Nor doth he which is also remarkable distinguish betwixt Christs teaching by the Spirit in the Prophets of old and the Apostles of late and Christs own teaching Immediatly in his own Person while Incarnate which two the Apostle clearly differenceth Heb. 1 1 2. 2 3 4. Nor doth he speak any thing of Christs Mediat teaching whether by Apostles extraordinarily assisted or by Ordinary Ministers or by his Word nay by his language we might suppose that he excludeth these wayes from being wayes of Christ's teaching contrare to Math. 10 20. 1 Thes. 4 8. 2 Cor. 5 19 20. Mat. 28 18 19. and many other places 11. Let us proceed and see what he saith § 7. in confirmation of the third Proposition viz. That God did alwayes make himself manifest to the Sons of Men by the Spirit For this cause he would have us considering how God from the beginning did manifest himself in his creatures But our enquiry should be how he did manifest himself to his creatures These words in creaturis suis in his creatures cannot but be understood of the way of his manifesting himself But to Manifest Himself in or by the Creatures is not the same with Manifesting Hâ—mself in or by the Spirit For confirmation of his Proposition he adduceth Gen. 1.2 And the Spirit of the Lord moved upon the face of the waters Is not this a pregnant proof of Gods revealing his minde unto Men who were not yet created Bâ—t passing this ridiculous Argument which moreover perverteth the genuine meaning of the Spirit of the Lord in that passage let us see what he adduceth further I think faith he no man will deny that from Adam to Moses Gods communion with man was by immediat manifestation of the Spirit I answere Though it be true that Christ as the great Prophet of his Church did by the Spirit reveal the Counsel of God concerning mans salvation yet that he did this by the Spirit 's Immediat Revelation unto every Individual Person will never be proved now this being the matter that he would have us grant and which only maketh for his purpose he must prove it ere we assent to it That the Lord was pleased to reveal his mind Immedialy to Some and by them to Others from Adam to Moses we know but that every individual Person even of the people of God were advanced to this privilege I deny Yea even dureing that time we read in Scripture but little of these Manifestations We know what was spoken immediatly to Adam to Cain we read also of the Prophecy of Enâ—h in Iud's Epistle which yet was not any new Truth revealed we read also of what was revealed to Noah and to Abraham to Isaac and to Iacob and to soâ—e few others But what will all this make for his point Sure these few persons were not all that lived dureing that long tract of time what then became of the rest how were they instructed was it not Mediatly by those Patriarchs and selected Persons And did not the Fathers instruct their children from generation to generation that the right worship and knowledg of God might be propagated from hand to hand 12. This proof evincing nothing let us see the next afterward saith he in the times of the law the Lord spoke no other way to his children which cannot be denied by such who acknowledge the Scriptures to have been written by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost Answere That the Scriptures of the Old Test. were so written I grant That the persons imployed in that work had immediat Revelations to this end I grant Nay moreover I grant that all other true Prophets who were raised up of the Lord whose Prophecies the Lord thought not fit to make a part of the Canon of the Scriptures had Divine Inward and Immediat Revelations But this Reason is as childish as the preceeding Doth he think that this is enough to prove his point Doth he think that all the rest of the people of God in those generations had those Immediat Revelations or that this followeth as a clear consequence from his Argument What folly is here He might as well prove that all the people of this
it is not a mans bare saying or signifying this or that to us which is the Formal Ground of our giving credite thereto but the Truth and Honesty of the Person speaking these words nor is the simple Reading or Making known such or such a Command to us the Formal Ground of our receiving it and of yeelding Obedience thereto as a Law but the Legislative Authority of the Person giving out that Law in such a manner So it was not the Prophets their simple declaration or revelation that did solely ground the peoples Obediential beliefe of what they spoke But the Veracity and Authority of God speaking in and by them Revelation whether to the Immediatly Inspired Holy men of God or by them Mediatly to others was a necessary meane to hold forth the particulars to be believed and obeyed but not the total formal Ground upon which the particulars revealed were to believed and obeyed But this Thus faith Iehovah which was also conveyed unto the people and made known unto them by the Sent Prophets As a mans speaking is a necessary meane to make us know both what he asserts as truth and what he would have us believe upon his report And as Promulgation of lawes is a necessary meane to convey the knowledge of the particular Lawes together with the authority enjoyning them unto the Subjects concerned and cannot be the whole but at most a part of the formal object of faith and Obedience or a natural meanes of the Production of the material Object for whether the Revelation be to be looked upon only as such a means as some or as a part of the formal object as others it is all one against the Quakers and we need not fall upon that debate here But if he understand Both together Then neither can that be the Formal Object of Faith divine as is cleare from what is said It is not from the Revelation simply that such or such a Proposition is true but from the Veracity and Truth of him that maketh the proposition Nor is it from the Promulgation that such or such Words framed into the forme of a Command or Law have the force of a Law but from the legislative Authority of him who giveth forth the command Hence we see That it is all one as to the Formal Object or Ground of Faith and Obedience whether the Revelation be Mediat or Immediat One way or Other providing it hold forth the Proposition to be Believed the Law to be Obeyed as coming from Him who is Truth the undoubted supreame Legislator So that our believing of such or such a Proposition with divine Faith is resolved into this Thus saith Iehovah to us who is Truth it self and cannot lie and our divine Obedience to such or such a Command resolveth into this Thus saith to us and thus commandeth us the Supream Lord and Lawgiver Iehovah here the outward testification or declaration of God is not excluded but included rather 16. That we may not walk in the dark with our confused and confounding Author When he calleth Revelation the Formal Object of Faith I would gladly understand whether by this Revelation he meaneth the Lord's making his minde known unto the Patriarchs or Prophets themselves by Voices Visions Dreames c. Or the Revelation made known by these Prophets or Patriarchs unto the people by vive voice or by writing c or doth he meane Both If he understand the first then he speaketh only of the Formal Object of the Faith of these Patriarchs and Prophets who received these Immediat Revelations from God But I would faine know of him what was the Formal Object of the faith of the people to whom these divinely inspired Patriarchs and Prophets made known these Revelations with a Thus saith the Lord The Revelation made to the Prophets could not be the Formal Object of the Peoples faith because it was a Revelation Immediatly made only unto the Prophets and revealed to the people not Inwardly and Immediatly by Vision or Representation to their mindes or God's Vive Voice to their ears but Mediatly by way of Declaration or Preaching outwardly to their senses by the Prophets If he understand the Second then the Immediat Revelation is not the Formal Object of Faith for the Revelation which they had was Mediat If he mean Both. Then his Thesis is defective and this should also have been mentioned for a Divine Revelation coming to us Mediatly by the ministry of Men divinely inspired may hold forth the Formal Object of faith to us as the Scriptures penned by men immediatly Inspired do now hold forth to us the Formal Object of our Faith for we believe with a Divine Faith what is asserted in them because spoken and delivered to us by the Lord Jehovah who is the God of Truth not Immediatly but Mediatly 17. Upon this ground we see what way to Interpret that word in his Thesis Divine inward revelations are absolutely necessary for Founding of true Faith For it is true Nothing can be received by a true divine Faith but what is delivered by God or revealed by the First and Prime Verity who is Veracity it self yet it is not necessary that this First and Prime Verity reveal his minde Immediatly to every person as if none could be or were obliged to beleeve with a true and divine Faith what God saith but only such as are Immediatly inspired Becâ—uâ—e 1. Then the People of old to whom the Prophets were sent with a thus saith Iehovah might have refuised Faith and Obedience and alleiged that these Revelations were not made to them Immediatly and therefore they were not bound to Believe and Obey them But we finde that the Lord spoke even to the Fathers by the Prophets Heb. 1 1. 2. If this were true then the people of Israel that heard not God speaking from Mount Sinay being borne after that time were not obleiged to receive the Law delivered on Mount Sinay with a divine Faith and yet the word spoken by Angels was stedfast and every transgression disobedience received a just recompence of reward Heb. 2 2. And he that despised Moses's Law though Moses only had that law from God by Immediat Revelation except the Ten words died without mercy Heb. 10 28. 3. Then the Prophets Patriarchs or such as had the Inward and Immediat Revelations could only be guilty of Unbeliefe and Disobedience and not the People to whom they spoke contrare to the wole tenor of the book of the Prophets How then I pray could Sauls disobedience to the command of God by Samuel be as the sin of witch craft 1 Sam. 15 19 23. See Ier. 7 23. and 11 4 7. and 26 13. and 38 20. and 42 13. and innumerable moe places 4. How then could this aggravate their sin that God himself spoke unto them and called upon them by his Prophets Hos. 6 ver 5. Ier. 7 ver 13 25. and 25 ver 3 4. and 35 ver 14 15. and
he hath gained nothing for I would say so that the Lord Jesus hath by his Spirit revealed Truths even Objectively unto us and even this way made good these promises but how By Inspireing Apostles and others to pen Scripture wherein all New Testament Truths necessary and sufficient for us to be believed and obeyed in order to Salvation are contained and revealed Is not this a proposeing of Truths Objectively Nay more I say the Spirit to this day is proposeing to us truths Objectively in by the work of the Ministrie and Ordinances which are established and maintained by the Spirit for this end to clear up the word of Reconciliation and to explaine all Gospel Truths which we are to believe and obey Here is also an Objective proposal by the Spirit But you will say it is not an Immediat Objective proposal I grant it and yet it is sufficient to confute his reason which mentioneth not this Immediatness nor will he prove any such thing out of these Scriptures in reference to all beleevers 29 Now followeth his Second Argument taken as he sayes from the new Covenant whereby he would prove that we are to be led by the Spirit not only Immediatly but also Objectively A strange conclusion as full of confusion as the former for any would think that by Objectively here he meaneth Mediatly But I suppose he would have said not only Subjectively but also Objectively For clearing of the matter and to prevent a fighting in the dark we would know That the work of the Spirit in order to the beleeving of Truths is either in and about the Soul of the man whom he is to give a Revelation of the truth unto or is in and about the Truth which is revealed and to be beleeved The First is that which is meaned by the word subjective because the man is the subject in which the Spirit is to work faith The Other is that which is expressed by the word Objective because the truth revealed is the Object which is to be beleeved and received Now the Subjective Operation of the Spirit in this matter is by enlightning the Understanding of the man taking away the vail that was over his eyes and thus enabling him to see the Object as when Christ cured the blinde man he put him in case to see the light which he could not do before so the Spirit openeth the eyes of the minde of the man that he may see the wonders out of his law Psal. 119 18. As to this immediat work of the Spirit though the Lord thinketh good to do this ordinarly in and by the use of meanes which he hath appointed so that the word Immediatly must not be so understood as to exclude these he maketh no debate with us But as to the Objective operation of the Spirit it is by proposeing of the Object or Truth to be beleeved unto the Intellect as true and as spoken by God and this is twofold either External or Internal External is when the Truth is proposed by God to the Intellect by outward meanes such as the Scriptures Preachers and the like and this may be also called Mediat Internal which may be called Immediat is when the Lord's Spirit doth immediatly propose the Truth to be believed as true and as spoken to them as a truth now to be believed because thus spoken by Him immediatly unto their souls unto which is requisite a real secret operation of the Spirit immediatly carrying the truth in upon the Understanding by Supernatural and Immediatly Infused intelligible Species's The former mediat way this man is not Satisfied with and this last immediat way is that whereby Truths were revealed extraordinarily to Prophets and Apostles and otherâ— who were Inspired and is usually called Prophetick Revelation and in this sense is the word Revelation ordinarily taken in Scripture And this is the Revelation Immediat and Objective which this man would plead for and which we deny to be common to all believers whether under â—he Old Testam or under the New And which we also deny to be â—he way by which we are to expect the Teachings and Leadings of the Spirit now seing we are built upon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Christ himself being the chiefe corner stone Ephes. 2 20. 30. Now let us see how he proveth his point He adduceth two passages of Scripture Esai 59 21. and Ier. 31 33. with its parallel Heb. 8 10. where the Lord promiseth that the words which he shall put in their mouth shall not depart out of their mouth nor out of the mouth of their seed nor out of the mouth of their seeds seed from hence forth even for ever And that he will put his law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts c And what I pray can all this Evince Cannot the Lord put his words in the mouth and hearts of his People Mediatly Ay but saith he the Lord saith not that he will do this by Scriptures or other Means Nor doth he say say I that he will do it without them when he opened the heart of Lydia and when he caused the Thessalonians receive the word not as the word of Man though preached by Paul but as it is indeed the Word of God did he not put his word into their mouth and write it in their hearts But saith he hereby is the law and the Gospel differenced that the law was writen in tables of stone but the Gospel in the heart Ans. Said not David Psal. 40 8. that the law of God was in his heart And Ps. 119 11 that he hid Gods Word in his heart If it be so why said he before and went about to prove that the Object of faith of beleevers under the Law and under the Gospel was the same and how had all the Saints under the Law Immediat Revelations Other answers might be given here but these are sufficient to shew the mans Ignorance and Inconstancy when he hath reconciled himself to himself we will have less to do What he speaks afterward of Immediat Communion which is not the same with Immediat Revelation in respect whereof the state of beleevers under the Gospel is better than that under the Law is but to confirme further his self contradiction Let him reconcile this with what he said before of beleevers under the Law and of the sameness of the Object formal of the faith of both and we shall think ourselves concerned to notice what he saith But further to multiply his self contradictions he addeth an Untruth viz. That under the Law they had the high Priest immediatly receiving the Word of God in the holy of holies to teach the people and we say now under thâ— Gospel there is nothing but the external letter of the Scripture in the meaning of one verse of which scarce two do agree For neither can he prove that the High Priest had such Revelations alwayes in the Holy of Holies And we
perceiving the truth of the most clear Mathematick demonstrations can he do the like as to his sensations 35. The parting argument which he seteth down in the last paragraph is sufficient so he thinketh to end the whole debate Thus he frameth it That unto which all Professors of Christianity of whatsoever kinde do at last recurre and because of which all other grounds are commended and accounted worthy to be beleeved must of necessity be the only most certane and immovable ground of all Christian faith But the Inward Immediat objective revelation of the Spirit is that Therefore c. Now not to carpe at the eccentrickness of this conclusion for many such things must be passed over This confirmation of the Minor as to Protestants with whom he very charitablie joyneth Socinians whom I cannot account Christians notwihstanding of all the agreement betwixt him and them destroyeth the whole Argument and rendereth it Useless as to his purpose and so concludeth only his folly and ignorance If we enquire say he at them why they take the Scripture for a Rule they answere Because in them is declared the will of God which was revealed Immediatly and objectively by the Spirit unto holy men Can any man of common sense inferre hence that Protestants are for the Uncertanty of all Objective and Immediat Revelation even of that which holy men of God had when acted by the Infallible Spirit to penne Scripture as he insinuateth in the following words or can any man of common judgment see what this concession and necessary foundation of Protestants can make for the falsly pretended Immediat and Objective Revelations which Quakers boast off Nay doth not Protestants their owneing of this solide and immovable foundation sufficiently warrand their rejecting of his Delusions yea and necessitate them thereunto if they would be true to their principles 36. As for his monitory conclusion in the end of his vindication of this his Second Thesis wherein he giveth us a full foretaste of his Pelagianisme because we will have occasion sufficient to speak to this matter afterward we need only tell the Reader what he saith here His discourse in short is this If any man will assent to what he hath said of Divine Revelations though at present he be a stranger to them himself yet he must know that this is the common Privilege of all Christians and at length shall come to know this secret light enlighting his heart c. and when by relinquishing of sin this divine Voice in the heart shall become more known then shall he feel that as the Old Naturall Man is put off the New Man and spiritual birth shall arise and this new birth having Spiritual senses can discerne the things of the Spirit and understand the Mysteries of the kingdom of God And therefore let every man attend to this Spirit in the Little Revelation of that pure light which at first revealeth things more notoure and afterward as he is fitted he shall receive more and more and be in case at length by quick Experience to refute them who shall enquire what way he knoweth that he is led by the Spirit That is in short If one will firmly beleeve that Natures dimme Light is the Spirit of God and the Holy Ghost in him and in the faith of this give up himself to the Teachings thereof and thereby shun outward acts of sin and put on a forme of Godliness and more and more give up himself to this Delusion he shall at length arive at this Perfection that he may burne the Bible and with confidence assert that he is acted by the Holy Ghost let Scriptures and Common Sense say to the contrary what they will What an extract of Pelagianisme Enthusiasme and dreadful Delusion is here every knowing person may see CHAP. IV. Of the Scriptures 1. HIs third Thesis which I finde in some things altered and more clearly expressed in the second edition set down in the Apology than was in the single sheet containing his judgment of the Scriptures cometh now to be examined The Scriptures being owned by us as a sure Rule whereby we should try the Spirits and they giving such clear and manifest Testimony against the Delusions and bold Assertions of the Quakers and affording us full and sufficient Ground whereupon to reject their Doctrine and to look upon them as Impostors it is little wonder that we heare them speak so basely of these Scriptures of Truth as we do Mr Stalham in his Reviler rebuked Pag. 1. tels us that a Quaker denied to his face the Scriptures to be the word of truth or at least not to all not to wicked men and unbelievers no not condemningly He tels us also Pag. 4. that some said to him That the Scripture is not the word of truth but the witness of Gods power as if that could be the true witness of Gods Power which were not true nor the word of truth He tels us also Pag. 18. sect 2. that Francis Howgil said The Scripture is other mens words that spoke them freely and Pag. 20. that Richard Farnworth called them in a way of disparagment a printed bible So Pag. 23. sect 3. that Iohn Lawson said we had nothing to try men by but the letter the Bible or written word which is natural and carnal So Pag. 244. he tels us that some of them in a book called a paper sent into the world Pag 2. have these words They are such teachers as tell people that Matthew Mark Luk and John is the Gospel which are but the letter we therefore do dâ—ny them And Pag. 250. he citeth these words out of Tho. Lawsons book called an untaught teacher Pag. 2. To say that the word of truth is called the Scripture or that the Scripture is called the word of truth that is a lie If this man do not approve of these and the like Expressions of those called Quakers he is concerned to give testimony against them and that directly that the world may bear witness of his honesty But we know what account the Old N. England Libertines David George and the Familists with whom this man and the rest agree too well made of the Scripturs 2. It is commonly affirmed by the Quakers that the Scriptures are not the word of God or ought not to be so called So Fox and Hubberthorn cited by Mr Hicks in his first dialogue Pag. 17. where he tels us also that Nailor in his Answere to the jewes P. 22. said That it is the devil that contends for the Scriptures to be the word of God And that this is their common Assertion and that mainly upon this ground that Christ is called the word of God D. Owen also witnesseth this in his Exercit Apol. Pro. S. Scriptâ—r Adv Fanaticos Exerc. 1. Sect. 3. which is no new thing for Phanaticks to alledge for I finde that it was one of Swenckfeldius's heterodoxies de Sacris Libris P. 27 28. and that upon the same
Revelations of the Spirit of God and yet they carry no Authority impressed upon them What shall carry the Impressions of a divine Authority if divine Revelations do not why did he assert in the preceeding Thesis that divine Revelation was the formal Object and ground of divine Faith How can they beleeve with a divine Faith the divine Revelations which they pretend unto why doth he plead so much for looking after divine Revelations if divine Revelations have not the stamp of divine Authority upon them But he sayes they ascribe the authority wholly unto the Spirit And do not we so also when we stoop unto the Authority of the Scriptures of Truth because delivered by the Inspiration of God when we say the Acts and Statutes of Parliament have the authority of Lawes and we obey and receive them as authenticque Lawes do we not ascribe the Legislative Authority unto the Parliament what a fancyful distinction must this them be and what a Notional difference doth he here imagine But it may be by these writings he meaneth the Paper and Ink But can he call the Paper and Inck the Scriptures of Truth or say that they did proceed from the holy Revelations of the Spirit of God 6. He reduceth all the contents of the Scripture unto three heads telling us that they containe first an historical narration of the acts of the people of God in not a few ages and of several rare testimonies of the providence of God towards them Forgetting that we have here also a true and faithful Narration of the first creation and that these examples are instructive Secondly a Prophetical narration of many things of which some are past and some are yet to come Making no mention of the great and many Promises nor yet of the threatnings Thirdly a full and large testimony to the chiefe doctrines of the Christian faith and that in certane excellent declarations exhortations and sentences which by the afflatus of the Spirit were said and written at diverse times to diverse churches and pastors according to various occasions that fell out And here is the whole of the high account he hath of the Scriptures and of their perfection Not to Meddle much with that here which he will give us occasion largely to disput of hereafter I would only enquire where or in what book beside the Scriptures shall we finde the whole doctrine of the Christian Faith laid down The Scriptures as he saith only give testimony to the chiefe Doctrines of Christianity Therefore there must be other Doctrines of Christianity that must be found out and searched for elsewhere but where I pray shall we finde these Againe I would know of him how we shall know what belongeth to the chiefe Heads of Christianity and what not we cannot know this by the Scriptures for they are supposed by him to be chief heads of Christianity to us before the Scriptures come which only as he saith beareth testimony to some of them 7. Further when he sayeth the Scripture giveth this Testimony only in certaine declarations c. It would seem we have not our Christian faith from the Scriptures but all the Articles thereof flow to us from some other Immediat Fountaine and are founded as to us upon some other Immediat Ground and the Scriptures only give some testimony thereto and that as it were on the bye in some certane Declarations Exhortations and Sentences Hence it would appeare by him that it is not the maine intendment and principal designe of the Scriptures to set downe delineat and explaine to us the articles of our Christian Faith and the doctrine of our Religion and so Iohn was it seemeth in a mistake when he said Iohn 20 vers 31. These are written that we might beleeve that Iesus is the Christ the Son of God and that believing we might have life through his name Why hath the Lord thus made known and written unto us excellent things in counsel and knowledge Is it not that our trust might be in the Lord and that he might make us know the certanty of the Words of Truth Prov. 22 vers 18 19 20 21. See Luk. 1 vers 2 3 4. Why saith Paul Rom 15 vers 4. that whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope For what end did the Spirit inspire these Holy men and by or in them speak to us in the Scriptures if not to give us a solide ground for our Faith to stand upon in receiving and beleeving the articles of Salvation Is not the whole of the Scripture given by the Inspiration of God that the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good works 2 Tim. 3 16 17 Why doth the Apostle Peter say 2 Pet. 1 19. that we do well to take heed unto this more sure word of prophecy If they be not the ground of our Faith why are we desired thus to take heed unto them and to desire the sincere milk of word that we may grow thereby 1 Pet 2 2. Are we not said to be built upon that foundation which the Prophets and Apostles did ministerially lay by Word and Write Ephes. 2 20. Thus we see he layeth no more weight upon the Scriptures as to the bottoming of our Faith than he would do upon any good Book wherein testimony were given unto the chiefe Doctrines of the Christian Faith by some excellent Declarations Exhortations and Sentences 8. In this account he giveth us of his conceptions of the fulness and perfection of the Scriptures It is observable that he doth not so much as give the least hint of any Authority wherewith the Scripture is cloathed to lay obligations on our Consciences to yeeld Faith and Obedience to it as the signification of the Soveraigne Will and pleasure of the great God and Lawgiver and in this is more injurious to the Scriptures then Papists are who grant it to be a Rule of Faith Hos. 8 12. See Psal. 119. throughout with infinite moe places and this is in effect to destroy the Scriptures which are given to us as the Law of God and must be received as such with Faith and Obedience As if they had not been inspired by the Holy Ghost for this end purpose that we might thereby understand and prove what is that good that acceptable and perfect will of God Is it not called a Law disobedience unto and transgression of which is sin 1 Ioh. 3 4. Iam. 2 8 9 10 11 12. and 4 11. 9. What he saith of the Scriptures being written to certane Churches and Pastors upon certane Occasions which is an old Popish argument neither will quadrate with the whole of the Scriptures nor though it did will it ground any such inference that we have little or no interest therein as our Law and Rule as Quakers say and lest he think I caluminate let him take notice of these few Instances Edw. Borroughs Pag.
hence the Perswasion or Conviction of this truth may be greater in some as more freed from Prejudices Doubts and Exceptions than in Others in whom it may be weaker through some admixture The impression also may be in some deeper than in others 16. If any enquire wherein this differeth from the Opinion of the Quakers I ans In those particulars 1 This which we speak of is not the Spirits saying by any new Revelation Voice or Whisper or Enthusiastick inspiration that this and not that Book is the Word of God The Quakers speak thus 2 By their way the testimony of the Spirit is an Argumentative Medium or an Inartificial Argument adduced to prove this conclusion to themselves that this or that Book is the Word of God so that they must first Perceive and Feel that the Spirit saith or witnesseth this book to be the Word of God and then they inferre that therefore it is to be received as the Word of God But we make no such use of the Spirits Testimony but Assert that He so illuminateth the Minde to see the characters of divinity as withall to work the Assent or Perswasion and that so as the Faith or Perswasion shall be felt oftentimes before the man reflect upon the Operation of the Spirit 3 The testimony we speak of is that Operation of the Spirit whereby the characters of divine Majesty and Authority which are natively inprinted in and do necessarily attend the Sayings of God are Discovered Received and Acquiesced in But the testimony which they speak of is distinct from and hath no connexion with the Objective evidence which is in the Scriptures themselves 4 The Quakers Revelation is purely Objective and New and Immediat declaring a new Truth The work of the Spirit which we speake of as it cleareth up the Objective Evidence which is in the Scriptures by removing Grounds of Mistake and Prejudice and the like so it worketh by these Evidences a Subjective Conviction in the soul and a Perswasion of the truth which only the man did not see before 5 By their Revelation a person getteth no new discovery of the characters of Divinity which the Scriptures carry along with them unless it may be by accident but the Perswasion which we speak of is rationally deduced from and founded upon these Marks and Evidences which the soul is now made to see clearly through the Operation of the Spirit 6 By our way the Scriptures do not receive their Truth and Authority neither in themselves nor as to us from this work of the Spirit as they do by the way of the Quakers for whether this Operation of the Spirit whereof we speak be or not the Scriptures are what they are the very Word of God as the sun is a shineing sun and light is light whether the blinde see it or not The word of the Lord is cloathed with Divine Light Majesty and Authority whether we see it or not Obligeth us though as yet wanting this perswasion and remaining blinde or blinded with prejudice to Imbrace and Receive the same as the Word of God and to yeeld all due Faith and Obedience thereunto as to the Word Law of the great God Lawgiver it is true without this work of the Spirit we cannot attaine to that heart-quieting Perswasion and soul-satisfying Assurance of the infallible Truth and divine Authority of the Scripture yet there is an infallible Truth divine Authority that inseparably attendeth whatsoever is spoken by God delivered as Assertions Lawes whether we see it and beleeve it or not And our blindness though it prejudge us of the rich advantage of Embraceing the Scriptures as the very Word of God yet it Endammageth not in the least the word of God it self But by the way of the Quakers the Scriptures have no Light nor Authority in themselves or to us until this Second Testimony come And thus it is supposed that either the Scriptures have no Characters of Light Power Life and Majesty divine in themselves or that whatever they may have of this kinde it is of no force to Oblige us to Faith and Obedience which were a contradiction till we receive this adventious and second Testimony and so all who want this are under no Obligation to receive the Bible by Faith and Obedience more then the Turks Alcoran which sure must be a very wilde and uncouth Position Let the Reader consult that satisfying Piece of the learned D. Own of the Divine Original c. of the Scriptures Chap. 5. where this is more satisfyingly and clearly expressed 1â— Now this being the very nature and native result of the judgment of the Quakers who sâ—eth not how absurd it is and who can be ignorant of the dreadful Consequences thereof which are so obvious For if their Opinion hold Then 1 there was no Ground for that Challenge Hos. 8 12. I have written to him the great things of my Law but they were counted as a strange thing 2 Then the jewes wanting this testimony could not be blamed for saying Ier. 43 2 Thou speakest falsly the Lord our God hath not sent thee to say go not unto Egypt to sojourn there 3 This might have been alleiged for an excuse of the Unbeleef that Christ himself did meet with for the Jewes might have said we have not as yet the testimony of the Spirit perswading us that Christs sayings and sermons are truely divine or the very sayings and testimony of God and till we have this we are not bound to beleeve 4 This would annul all that Authority and Truth that is in the Revelation of Iesus Christ which God gave untâ— Him to show unto His Servants and sent and signified by his Angel unto Iohn who bare record of the word of God and of the testimony of Iesus Christ. Revel 1 2. So 5 it maketh null that saying Revel 1 3. Blessed is he that readeth and they that heare the words of this prophecy and keep those sayings which are written therein 6 It confronteth all these places following Deut. 11 18 19. and 18 19. Ier. 29 19. and 35.15 Psal. 50 17. Prov. 4 20. and 7 â— Ier. 6 19. and 1â— 10. and 13 10. Ezech. 3 4.10 with multitudes moe which might be cited 7 By this meanes the people of God of old were no more Obliged to receive the Word of God delivered by true Prophets than the lies and dreams of the false Prophets who were Prophets of the deceits of their owne hearts and there was no difference to be put betwixt the chaff and the wheat until this second Revelation came See Ier. 23 21-32 In a word 8 This rendereth the whole Scriptures of the Old and New Test. void and useless as we shall manifest more when we come to consider what he saith to the contrary 18. What he speaketh of the difference among the Ancients and doubtings concerning some Books of Scripture which are now received can prove nothing but that through Prejudice
freely given to us of God 1 Cor. 2 12. I assert that He is the earnest in our hearts 2 Cor. 1 22. and that beleevers are sealed with the holy Spirit of promise Ephes. 1 13. and that by him they aâ—e sealed unto the day of Redemption Ephes. 4 30. But all this is his peculiar work and by no shew of reason can or should be expected of a Rule as any man of ordinary judgment may see 34. But § 4. Pag. 43. He tels us that neither deaf persons nor idiots nor Infants can make use of it as a Rule and yet some of these may be saved That some of these may be saved and are I shall be loath to deny but what will this say for the Imperfection of the Scriptures Did not Paul know so much when he spok of their Perfection Or did not the Spirit of the Lord know this when he inspired David to say Psal. 19 that the Law of the Lord was perfect What I pray will his Revelations helpe the matter as to Infants and Idiots Are they capable of such Were there none such among the Jewes And yet he granted that the Law was a Primary Rule to them and consequently Perfect for he deducâ—th its not being a Principal Rule from its being Imperfect and therefore when and where so ever it was a Principal Rule then and there it was also a Perfect Rule Thus the man in stricking at us woundeth himself But what in case any of these persons kill a man what would the Law of the land do unto them would it punish them I think the Law of the Lord should warrand them if they did right And shall the Law of a Land reach persons that cannot make use of it and God's Law not What use can Children or Mad men or Idiots make of the Light within As for deaf persons they have Natures light and that is part of God's Law and if they have eyes they can see many things that may instruct them though they cannot read the Bible which was never penned for their immediat use nor yet for the use of Infants and Idiots But the saying that God can and when he will doth supply the want of Scripture as of other of his Appointments Ordinances in these extraordinary cases can be no impeachment either of the Usefulness or Perfection of the Scriptures Our Quakers will account their books and exhortations useful if not necessary and yet he shall hardly perswade me that deafe Persons or infants or idiots can make any good use of them 35. To the same end he mentioneth next such as cannot read And can he demonstrate that there were none such among the Iewes and can he tell me what this derogateth from the Perfection of the Lawes of a Land and I pray him tell me if he thinks that such as cannot read and yet live where the Scriptures are or within the Church can violat any of the precepts contained in the Scriptures or not If they can shall be punished of God therefore did not the Scriptures oblige them will their not being learned and able to read prove a sufficient plea for them in the day of accounts If not then the Scriptures remaine a Rule to them and if it remaine a Rule it must remaine a Perfect Rule for all that this argument concludeth which if it conclude any thing will conclude that the Scriptures are no Rule at all to such And as for the disadvantage such are at in the knowledge of the Rule they must blame themselves the Scriptures cannot bear the blame that they will not learne to read them no more than it can bear the blame of such as can read them and will not 36. After this he â—aketh together a number of things Such as peoples Ignorance of the Original Languages Errours in Translations whereof our owne is not in his judgment free Various Readings in the Originals difference among Learned men about the Points in the hebrew and about the Original authenticque of the Old Test. Some pleading for the â—o others for the Hebrew and he might have added the Papists pleading for the Vulgar latine Version for both old and New Testament All which can plead nothing against the Rule of the Scriptures as every one may see only â—t can be hence inferred that we are at some disadvantages in understanding some things in the Scripture and by this he rather disputes against the Providence of God and his Goodness that did not prevent these evils than against the Canon it self for he cannot deny thâ—t the Canon was once written by men inspired of God in one language or other nor will he say â—s we shall hear shortly that what was so written was written only for the good of these Persons or Churches to whom they were especially directed Beside that these Exceptions have been sufficiently removed by Learned Men particularly and that shortly and plainly by the learned D. Owen in his book above cited Himself calleth them the Scriptures of truth and § 2. Pag 38. he both wondereth and praiseth God that they are by the good providence of God keeped so pure and uncorrupt Yea Pag. 47. § 6. he confesseth thâ—t what errors are creept-in through the injury of the times are but small especially in substantial matters So that notwithstanding of all which he hath said the Scriptures are able to make us wise unto salvation and what neeâ—s more what would he hence inferre 37. Towards the end of Pag. 44. he tels us what he would hence conclude viz That Christ who promised to be with his own and to lead them in all truth c. would never leave them to be led by a Rule obvious to so many doubts And yet we see he hath done so for we know no other Rule whâ—ch Christ haâ—h given whereby to point our unto us the Way and Counsel of God But he addeth tâ—at Christ hath therefore given his Spirit for the Principal and chief Leader And I say the same and account it a saying worthy of all acceptance The Spirit is the Principal Chiefe Only Efficient Leader Giving and implanting a new principle of life and grace in the soul Reforming Regenerating the whole man as to his Understanding Will and Affections Sending and conveying new Influences of Life Light Strength and Comfort whereby the Ignorant and blinde are made to see the way wherein they ought to walk the fainting and weary get new power and increase of Strengh so as they run and are not weary and walk and are not faint the Sick and swooning christian is made to revive and become strong in the Lord and in the power of his might the Dejected and sorrowfull Mourner is made to sing in the wayes of the Lord through the Consolations of the H. Ghost but all this is consisting with no way derogatory to the Vse Necessity Fulness Compleetness of the Scriptures as our Rule Law Here lyeth the ground of this mans
and yet behold the Righteous God cannot be acquite in that which is every way more justifiable though He hath absolute dominion over us and may dispose of us as He will which no man hath over another The truth is this dissatisfaction with God in all his wayes is an argument beyond all deniall of our Rebellious Natural Inbred Corruption and Wickedness of heart what would they not have said that it had been Goodness and Equity both in God if Adam had stood to have made us all partakers of the Benefite thereof and shall it now be against both Goodness Equity if by reason of his Fall we be deprived thereof and be Obnoxious to the evils threatned what unequal dealing is this In fine This is the old câ—ant of the Palagians as Vossius sheweth us Hist. Pelag. Pag. 206. And what Augustine replyed he way see Ibid. Pag. 20â— 13. He addeth a rhapsody of non-sense telling his readers our opinion floweth from our self lâ—ve because we maintaine an absolute decree of election for ourselves and ours and so care not to send all the rest to hell and leave them into inextricable difficulties The reading of whâ—ch might indeeâ— excite any man of Understanding to commiserate this mans case who is thus so transported with paâ—sion as he knoweth not what he is saying only we see that he muâ—t spew out his gall againâ—t the Orthoâ—â—x doctrine of Election before the fit time come but when he cometh to tâ—e right place of speaking to this as we shall see in the next Chapter he dar not meddle with Election but contents himself with Reprobation But what an evident demonstration of Corrupt Self love and Pride against God is in his Pelagian heresie he is blinde that seeth not These Quakers with other Pelagians will not be beholden to the Grace of God but as little as may be and therefore so frame their doctrine that themselves and not the grace of God may have all the praise of their Salvation as we will have occasion frequently to shew ere all be done When he hath deluded himself and other Quakers and made some others beleeve that they have no Original sin to mourne for and thereby hath brought them under the dominion of Satan more than befoâ—e hath he done them any good service Is it good service to poor souls to hoodwinke them that they may post to the pit witâ— a lie in their right hand Woe I say and thrice woe to such as drink-in this mans doctrine and live and die accordingly 14 Thereafter he is better pleased with Papists who allow a limbus to the Infants dying without baptisme than wâ—th us But we must be satisâ—ied that he look more warmly to his old friends the Papists among whom he drank-in no doubt much of that prejudice which now he is pleased to voâ—ite foâ—th as Quaker rather than as a Papist And as to this particular whereupon now we are his opinion will accord better with the Papists than with Ours for Bellarm. will not have concupiscence to be owned as sin Formally but only Originally and Effectively or Terminatively and they say that Adam was created in puris naturalibus which naturals remain whole and intire as yet and will not this Quaker grant all this as to Infants Nay he agreeth well with the Errour of Albert-Pighius who will have no sin propagated to us from Adam and sayeth that there is nothing in us when new borne but what is good and that death cometh not upon Infants because of sin but floweth from the constitution of the body But whether he will say with him that because of Adam's sin all his posterity are banished out of Heaven though not obnoxious to eternall Death I know not It may be he will allow them a limbus or else make them all sure of heaven if he will grant a heaven to any But how come they thither seing they have nothing to do with Christ all thaâ— come to heaven must be beholden to Christ the Redeemer and hold their crown of Him But this Qvakers Religion will teach old persons let be Infants to be little beholden to Christ as we shall heare 15. He is so bold as to tell us next that our opinion is contrary to Scripture Because the Apostle sayeth Rom. 4 15 that where there is no Law there is no transgression and 5 13. but sin is not imputed when there is no Law And he like a man proveth that Infants are under no Law But is the man such a stranger to the common practices among men who forfeite the Children yea Infants yea such as are not borne with their Fathers for great crimes and yet they know that Infants are not obnoxious to their Lawes especially if as yet unborne But our plaine answere is That the Nature of Mankinde was under the Law proposed unto Adam as the Head and when he as the Head and Representative broke that Law the whole nature of Mankinde became guilty and consequently every Infant becometh guilty when they partake of that guilty nature And that thus it was with all the posterity of Adâ—m the Apostle expresly asserts in the last place cited viz. Rom 5 12 13 14. even notwithstanding of this very Oâ—jection which he proleptically bringeth-in there as the cohesâ—on cleareth and we shall evince afterward 16. His last reason is from Ezechiel 18 20. which Socinians also urge and it receiveth a quick dispatch for he himself must loose this doubt if there bâ— any as well as we for he said before that God punisheth the sins of the Fathers on the children when guilty of actual sinnes whereby they homologate their Fathers wickedness And Ezechiel doth plainly and frequently enough make it out â—hat tâ—ese children were as wicked as their fathers if not more and so the Lord might according to this Man 's owne concession visite the iniquities of their Fathers upon them But the scope of the place being clearly this That so little grouâ—d had these people to alleige that they were innocent and that God had no quarrel againâ—t them but for their fathers transgressions so that their fathers did eat thâ— soure â—rapes and their teeth were therefore set on edge though they themselves did eat no soure grape being innâ—câ—nt that on the contrary the Lord tels them by the Prophet that though he should not visite one iniquity of their Fathers upon them as hâ— might do in justice and had one with others but should follow a way with them more suteable to their owne minde viz. only take notice of their own guilt personal yet they could not escape because their owne personal iniquities were so many and so great This I say being the scope of the place it is obvious how impertinent it is for him here to alleidge it And beside let him make of it what he will it cannot reach us for we have told him that this original sin is not the sin of another Person as Adam's after sins were
question of this Quaker If Infants be borne pure and free of sin as he saith How can this be the peculiar prerogative of Christ to be conceived and borne without sin And in reference to this what necessity was there that he should have been conceived of the Holy Ghost and borne of a Virgine Let him answere this at his owne leasure CHAP. VII Of Reprobation 1. WE have heard this Mans Opinion concerning the State and condition of fallen Man Now his Fift and Sixt Thesis come under consideratioâ— wherein he giveth us an Account of the way and meanes how man is delivered from this miserable and depraved Condition But howbeit his Theses were sufficiently large Yet he toucheth moe things in his Vindication or Apology than he gave any hint of there but this is no material ground of challenge for the more full he be in explaining his minde and the moe the particulars be which he speaketh to we come to know his minde the better Though he made no mention of Reprobation in his Thesis yet he giveth us in his Apology Pag. 64. c. a large discourse thereof and beginneth his Explication of these two Theses with this matter And though he spareth no paines or paper in venting his displeasure against that which he supposeth to be the doctrine of the Reformed Churches concerning Reprobation yet I cannot finde that he giveth us any account of his owne positive Judgment of this matter be like he thought it his Wisdom to forbear that lest he should entangle himself into inextricable difficulties and howbeit his Admirers may commend him for this yet I think his dealing the less ingenuous and upright 2. It is observed that since the truth of God in the matter of Predestination began first to be questioned by Pelagius and his Followers in the dayes of Augustine there hath hardly been any Seck or Heresie wherewith the Church of Christ hath been infested that hath not stumbled upon this stumbling stone and encouraged themselves thereby to continue fixed in their Errours and not only to blaspheme in their pride and audacity the Truth of God when it had favoured more of Christian sobriety to have been silent and when they could not with their corrupt and blinded Understandings satisfyingly comprehend this truth to have stooped unto God's Revelation of the mystery rather than to have condemned it and that in such a petulant and intolerable manner as if God and his mysteries must stand at the bar of mans Judgment and either conforme to the Apprehensions and Conceptions of Mâ—ns corrupted blinded byassed Reason or be rejected as reprobat matter not to be tolerated in Church or Common wealth so that this corrupted and blinde judge must umpire without the remedie of an appellation most peremptorily and absolutely in the sublime acts of the Great Absolute Soveraigne Jehovah And therefore it should seem less strange to us that these Quakers whose chief Excellency or rather most desperat Madness and Wickedness lyeth in this that they rake together all the filthiest brats of other Hereticks and therewith patch up a compleet Cento for their Religion and whose chiefe and only rule for faith and practice is the dim Light of Nature a light within every man which as to the great mysteries of God revealed in the Gospel is pure hellish darkness have following the Light of their corrupt guide not only Rejected but also blasphemously Inveighed against the Truth of God in this particular For vaine man would be wise though man be born like a wild asses colt 3. It is likewise observable that the proud rebellious adversaries of the Grace and Soveraignity of God that they may in their popular discourses and scriblings make the truth concerning the Absolute and Free Grace of God more odious and hatefull to such as usually measure the Incomprehensible God and all his wayes by their own carnal Imaginations and not by the sure Revelations of his will in his Word It is I say usual with such to pitch upon this point of Reprobation knowing that carnal self lovers are so blinded with prejudice at any truth that crosseth their humors and at this especially which at first look seemeth so repugnant unto the fixed delusory apprehensions of God which they satisfy themselves with all And though the Judicious know and they themselves cannot be ignoâ—ant that what is spoken against Reprobation reflecteth upon Election these being as twines which must die and live together for take away Reprobation and Election is forthwith destroyed and grant once Election and Reprobation is thereby established without further disput by such as know what they say and whereof they affirme yet such is the Unmanly let be Unchristian yea and Unscholastick Disingenuity of these more enraged than rationally acted Adversaries that they passe over the matter of Election as finding it possibly too hote for their fingers and exaggerat the matter of Reprobation with all the strength of their Invention and keenness of their Rhetorick whereby though they contribute to the fixing of themselves in an Errour it may be contrare to the very suggestions of their more Impartial and a little more Enlightned Consciences and to the raising of scruples and prejudices in the mindes of the simple yet they but render themselves more ridiculous unto the more understanding and exercised persons in these debates And this is the whole of the present work and designe of this Quaker for not one word hath he of Election less or more but runeth out in such a rage against Reprobation that he runeth himself blinde so that he cannot see the most palpable and obvious Contradictions and Inconsistencies which himself uttereth and no man of common sense would ever speak and so doth his irrational rage drive him that to all intelligent beholders he proclameth his own brutish Ignorance Take one instance which will demonstrate both Towards the very beginning of his discourse Pag. 64. 65. he presenteth us as speaking thus That God did predestinate to everlasting damnation the most part of men without any respect had to their sin only to demonstrate the glory of his justice Now let all men of common sense judge to speak nothing of the learned who cannot but look with indignation upon this ridiculously and perversely false Representation of our meaning if ever man in his wits did or any who understood what they said could say That God did predestinate any man to damnation for the glory of his justice without any consideration had of the mans sin who seeth not what a palpable contradiction is here can God have the glory of Iustice any other way than in punishing of sin And can God intend to gloryfy his Iustice and not intend to punish sin and can he Intend to punish sin or men for sin and not consider their sin 4. This Man inveigheth much against absolute Reprobation as he calleth it but what sort of Reprobation he maintaineth he never once acquanteth us why and
terminus without all respect to sin because by it persons are appointed to punishment for their sins and whatever God doth in time execute He râ—solved and determined from eternity to do the same in the self same manner As for the Execution of this decree in time in reference to the denying or not giving of Faith Repentance Regeneration or Gâ—ace to recover out of the state of sin we say this act is Absolute as hâ—s giving of Grace and Regeneration upon the one hand is free as the Scripture richly declareth so thâ— withhoâ—ding of this Mercy Grace is an act of his Absolute Soveraignity and Free Will who hath mercy on whom he will and hardeneth whom he will As concerning the act of inflicting spiritual Iudgments the forerunners of hell this being an act of Iustice is not without respect to sin its procureing cause as the Scriptures lately cited evidence The same we say of adjudging impenitent and wicked persons unto hell for this is an act of justice conforme to the established Law of God 10. Though what we have said might suffice upon our part for clearing of the truth which we owne yet because this Quaker rageth so much against Absolute Reprobation by which he doth not meane the actual Execution of this act but the Act it self we shall in short propose somethings which will serve for confirmation of what we say And 1. There is a certane Analogy betwixt the decree of Election the decree of Reprobation so that the one giveth light unto the other the one cannot be conceived without the other for where there is an Election of some there must be a Rejection of others so the one is opposite to the other from this it is manifest that if Election be Free Absolute so must Reprobation be for the objects of both are supposed to be in the same state condition equally represented in the minde of God or considered when the act passeth upon them none deserving Election more than the rest nor none more meriting Reprobation than the rest If then Election be not upon the account of any good foreseen in the elected more than in others whether it be Faith or Obedience or Perseverance in both to the end or whatever else can be imagined as all our Divines have showne writing against the Arminians it is manifest cleare that Reprobation cannot be upon the account of the Foresight of the contrary Sin foreseen or considered in Iudas could not be a cause moving God to Reprobat him more than Peter because the same was to be seen in Peter And the Apostle cleareth confirmeth this when he saith Rom. 9 11 12 13. for the children being not yet born neither having done any good or evil it was said unto her the Elder shall serve the Younger as it is written Iacob have I loved but Esau have I hated Which place 2. Doth further confirme what we say for here is a Discrimination made one Loved the other Hated that is one Elected the other Reprobated Rejected without any consideration had of good in the one or evil in the other as a procureing cause of these Acts of Gods will for both Iacob Esau are considered as being in a like condition yet unborn neither having done either good or evil 3. The supream wheel moving all is here said to be that the purpose of God according to election might stand not of works but of him that calleth so there can be no procureing cause of this in man The one was preferred to the other that the purpose of God according to Election might stand the other consequently was made to serve that the purpose of God according to Reprobation might stand 4. Works both good evil are here in plaine termes excluded not of works there are no works excepted if Election be without foreseen works Reprobation must be so also or we must say that the Apostle argueth not acuratly that the Spirit of the Lord in the Apostle doth not cleare explaine the point 5 Vers. 17. from the instance of Pharaoh of whom it is said that God even for this same purpose had raised him up that He might shâ—w his power in him c. the Apostle inferreth that God hardneth whom he will as well as from the instance of Iacob preferred to his brother Esau he inferred vers 15. 18. that he hath mercy on whom he will have mercy and that he hath compassion on whom he will have compassion 6. The Objection which the Apostle preoccupieth Vers. 19. Thou wilt say then why doth he yet find fault for who hath resisted his will doth manifestly speak the truth we plead for for if Election Reprobation were not absolute but upon foreseen works what place could this Objection have Why would the Apostle speak to an Objection that were no way pertinent Should there be any colour for any to propose this scruple if the good evil works of man were the ground of all 7. The Apostles reply confirmeth this when he sayeth Nay but O man who art thou that repliest or dispurest or it may be rendered responsats or carps against God Importing that it is high arrogance in the Clay creature to call Jehovah to its barre to judge or quarrel with or disput against God whatever he do according to the purpose of his own will But what ground were there for such a Pride-laying Man-humbling Mouth-stopping Creature-abaseing felling answere if all this matter did run upon the wheels of justice or had its rise from man or were ultimatly founded upon something in him 8. The answere added putteth the matter beyond all further dispute Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it why hast thou made me thus Hath not the potter power over the clay of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour and another unto dishonour Where we see That man is but as a lump of clay in the hands of the great Potter as there is nothing in one part of the same lump of clay calling inviteing or moving the potter to make of it a vessel unto honour or a vessel unto dishonour so is there nothing in man calling or moving God to make this man a vessel unto honour the other a vessel unto dishonour And next we see That all is ultimatly resolved into the pleasure of God as the Potters mere pleasure is the cause of the discrimination of vessels which he frameth out of the same lump 9. These words vers 22. further confirme our point for saith the Apostle what if God willing to shew his wrath and to make his power known endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath fitted or made up for destruction c. Importing that it is so and that man hath nothing to say against it So we see That as the vessels of mercy are afore prepared unto glory so the vessels of wrath are afore prepared and
Repentance But how can he come who hath no power to Beleeve or Repent without grace Or is it in corrupt mans power to Beleeve or Repent 9. As for this Quaker with whom we are dealing He is not pleased to give us a full aâ—count of his judgment in this particular only two things I finde he harpeth upon and repeateth as the conclusion of his pretended proofs and allegations viz. 1. That Christ died for all and every man and not for all kinds of men only non pro generibus singulorum sed pro singulis generum as he saith And 2. That what he procured was only a Possibility of salvation but what he understandeth hereby we are left to conjecture Yet it is manifest that with him this was all and summe that was procured and that it was procured for all equally But what saith he as to the Conditions of the new Covenant we must attend him in what followeth ere we know his judgment herein Where albeit he saith that what he with the rest of the Quakers maintaine therein is different from what others say and peculiar to themselves Yet we will finde to be nothing but Pelagianisme and Arminianisme put in a new dresse of words not usual with others 10. Though it might be sufficient for us to consider what this man saith and only answere his Reasons Yet to give the Reader some satisfaction in this matter which others than Quakers are pleading for now a dayes it will not be amisse to give in short the grounds of our contrary judgment which we maintaine with the orthodox wherein I intend not a full handling of that Controversie But only a short proposal of the truth with the grounds thereof whereby all our Adversaries assertions will be rejected and our way in answering what this Quaker alleigeth facilitated and withal the two Assertions wâ—ich he insisteth upon viz. the Vniversality of the Redemption and the meer Possibility which was procured abundantly confuted 11. What that truth is which we stand for is plainly and fully enough set downe in several places of Our Confession of Faith as Chap. 3. § 6. As God hath appointed the elect unto glory so hath he by the Eternal and most free purpose of his Will fore ordained all the meanes thereunto Wherefore they who are Elected being fallen in Adam are redeemed by Christ are effectually called unto faith in Christ by his Spirit working in due season are Iustified Adopted Sanctified and Keeped by his power through faith unto salvation Neither are any other Redeemed by Christ effectually Called Iustified Adopted Sanctified and Saved but the Elect only So Chap. 8. § 1. It pleased God in his eternal purpose to choose and ordaine the Lord Iâ—sus his only begotten Son to be the mediator between God and man Vnto whom he did from all eternity give a people to be his seed and to be by him in time Redeemed Called Iustified Sanctified and Glorified And ibid. § 5. The Lord Iesus by his perfect obedience and sacrifice â—f himself which he through the eternal Spirit once offered up unto God hath â—ully satisfied the Iustice of his Father and purchased not only Râ—conciliation but aâ— Everlastiâ—g inheritance in the Kingdom of heaven for all those whom the Father hath given unto him So ibid § last To all those for whom Christ hath purâ—hased Redemption he doth certanely and effectually apply and communicate the same making intercession for them and revealing unto them in and by the word the mysteries of salvation effectually perswading them by his Spirit to beleeve and obey and governing their hearts by his word and Spirit overcoming all their enemies by his Almighty power and wisdom in such manner and wayes as are most consonant to his wonderful and unsearchable dispensations Our judgment is this in short That Christ according to the good pleasure of his Father laid downe his life a Ransome for the Elect only who were given to him to save from Wrath and Destruction and by that price purchased Salvation and all the Meanes necessary thereunto for them only to whom in due time and after the method which he thinketh best doth effectually apply the same unto them and actually save them 12. Though grounds sufficient considering the places of Scripture annexed in the margine of the Confession confirming all are clearly hinted and laid downe in these passages cited yet I shall with what brevity is possible point forth our grounds in plaine termes And 1. The Scripture is full and plaine in holding forth a Covenant betwixt Iehovah and the Mediator a transaction concerning man or the purposes of God concerning the Salvation of Man in way of a mutual Compact both for our better understanding of that solide ground of our Peace and Hope and for the confirming of our staggering and weak Faith And though the full explication and confirmation hereof would I judge fully undermine and destroy the rotten grounds of Socinians and Arminians and of all who are for the Diana of Free will and enemies to the Grace of God yet I cannot digresse thereunto here and shall only referre such as would see the same confirmed unto Mr. Dicksons Therapeutica sacra and Mr Rutherfords book upon the Covenant Taking it therefore for granted till what is by these Worthies said anent it be confuted and finding that Arminius himself in his Orat. de Sacerdotio Christi saith there was a Covenant betwixt the Lord and Christ I shall but shortly inferre therefrom That it is repugnant to reason to say that the result of that Eternal Transaction and the whole intended by it was only to procure a meer Possibility of Salvation and that such a Possibility as that though it was equally for all yet it might so fall out that not one person should be saved among all the sones of Adam How unreasonable is it to imagine such a bargane betwixt the Faâ—her and the Son as among men considering what they are doing can have no place If Christ was to see his seed by vertue of this Contract then certainly God had a special eye and respect unto that seed and that seed must be distinguished from all the rest for it cannot be All else all should be saved and so Christ did not undertake to buy all nor did the Father give him All for his seed and in reference to that seed the Redemption purchased must be an Actual and not a meer Potential or Possible Redemption and the Lord must have full Power and Dominion over the Will of that Seed whereby he may determine their hearts unto a following of the Method which he was to prescribe and all these meanes whereby this actual Closeing with the Conditions was to be effectually wrought must have been secured for a transaction betwixt persons infinite in Wisdom must of necessity be in all things contrived in deep Wisdom So then if by vertue of this Covenant a seed was ensured to Christ it was these concerning whom the transaction was
gracious Esa. 30 18. to be long suffering Exod. 34 6. Num. 14 18. Psal. 86 15. Ier. 15 15 By all which not to mention the impertinency of that citation Esai 30 18. as also of that Ier. 15 15. as may appeare to any at the first view he can only inferre that which we do not deny viz. That God is long suffering and patient even towards the wicked But can he hence conclude that the wicked have power therefore of themselves without the Spirit of regeneration and grace to do what is commanded in reference to life eternal Let him essay this and give yet fuller proof of his Pelagianisme That wicked persons may forbear much wickedness and acts of iniquity without the special grace of God I readily grant and hereby turning from their former wicked courses may prevent their owne temporal ruine and hold off the judgments of God that are threatned and imminent as we see in the people of Nineve and in that wicked King Ahab and so that the old world might have prevented their destruction by turning from their evil wayes and hearkning to the counsel and command of Noah from the Lord who waited with patience 1 Pet. 3 20. All this is true but what is all this in reference to eternal Salvation Is it likewise in their power when they please to turne to the Lord and serve Him with a perfect heart and to walk before Him and bâ— perfect Ere we beleeve this we must see other proofs thereof than what is brought from the word of Command for that I suppose will reach even such whose day of Visitation is at end and to whom salvation is on this account impossible as this man saith 14. He foresaw that it would be answered that the long suffering mentioned 1 Pet. 3 20. was not unto salvation And therefore citeth as a parallel place to cleare that it was unto salvation 2 Pet. 3 15. But the man taketh no notice to whom the Apostle Peter is speaking there in his second Epistle see vers 9. explained and vindicated in the former Chapter They were these whom the Apostle looked upon as having obtained like pretious faith with him and others through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Iesus Christ 2 Pet. 1 1. and whom he stileth beloved Chap. 3 1 8 14 17. and such as were looking for the comeing of the day of God and for new heavens and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness vers 12 13 14 and such as were in case to grow in grace in the knowledge of Iesus Christ vers 18 Now to these only and such as belonged to the Election of grace whom the Lord was yet to bring-in the Lord's delay to destroy the world with fire which is the long suffering here spoken of as vers 9. cleareth was salvation because he would want none of them that his body to which they belonged as members might be compleat But he tels us further to as little purpose that Peter in this matter looketh to Paul's writtings insinuating that this was the Catholick and common doctrine of the Church And why should it not be so as we have cleared it And Paul also in his Epistle to the Hebrewes which is the writing of Paul to them to whom Peter is now writing as appeares 1 Pet. 1 1. 2 Pet. 1 1. speaketh to this same purpose Heb. 10.35 to the end So that this man is in a fond mistake when he supposeth afterward that in this particular Peter hath his eye towards Paul's Epistle to the Romans Chap. 9. seing that Epistle was not written to them to whom Peter is here writing and that he meaneth such an Epistle as was writen to the same persons is clear from vers 15. Even as our beloved brother Paul also hath writen unto you It is true Peter addeth other Epistles of Paul wherein he speaketh of these things that Peter is here treating of which cannot be said of that place of his Epistle to the Romans And what he speaketh of our wresting of the Scriptures may as is evident enough from what is already said and will appear more ere we end with him without the hazard of a reproach be retorted upon himself and his party But we have some other thing to do than insist upon recriminations 15. He citeth next Pag 95. Rom. 2 4. and then asketh how these could be called riches and bounty unless there had been a time wherein they might have repented become partakers of these riches which were then offered Ans. These might have been the riches of God's goodness and forbearance and long suffering calling them to turne from their wickedness and not treasure up wrath to themselves against the day of wrath though nothing certanely accompanying salvation Nature may teach persons that God's bounty and goodness in spareâ—ng or not cutting off with remarkable judgments as he doth some and continueing life good things necessary for life notwithstanding they deserve to be cut off should be otherwise improven than by taking encouragement therefrom to sinne the more Shall temporal spareing favoures bestowed on such as deserve nothing but hell fire be in so small account with us Was it in their power without the grace of God upon the simple consideration of the goodness of God and his long suffering and patience towards them to repent savingly or could they have been made partakers of Salvation without saving Repentance One of these this Man must prove ere he can evince any thing hence proving salvation possible in his sense to all and every person And I suppose these words of the Apostle vers 7. To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality Eternal life will import some other thing This seeking after glory and honour and immortality that by well doing or as the opposition made vers 8. cleareth by doing the truth obeying righteousness by working good as vers 10. and by continuance in well doing by patient continuance in well doing cannot sure be performed by any by the meer strength of Nature and without the Grace of God And how shall it be performed by them that know nothing of an Eternal life or of Glory and Honour and Immortality so cannot seek after it that in such a manner Will he say that all the Heathens Barbarians the Cannibals Men-eaters such as have little more of Men than the outward visage positure of the body are acquainted with these things can by their owne Industry Paines reach the crowne of immortal glory If he do not both affirme confirme this he proveth not his Universal Day of Visitation granted to every Mothers son in which they may if they please lay hold on eternal life 16. Thereafter § 20. he citeth Esai 5 1 2 3 4. and as parallel parables Mat 21 33. Mark 12 1. Luk. 20 9. which yet differ in several maine points a passage which his predecessours
be justified from the imputation of anothers righteousness is both ridiculous and dangerous whence came that usual saying amongst many professours of Religion That God looks not upon them as they are in themselves but as they are in Christ. And Pag. 25 See Mr Hicks Pag. 51. c. Iustification 〈◊〉 not from the imputation of anothers Righteousness but from the actual performing and keeping of God's righteous statutes and Pag. 25 30. It is a great abomination to say God should condemne and punish his innocent Son that he having satisfiâ—d for our â—innes we might be justified by the imputation of his perfect Righteousness And againe I caution and warne men by no meanes to entertaine this principle of Christs dying to make satisfaction to divine Justice by whomsoever recommended And againe Pag. 26. He i. e. Christ fulfilled the Law only as our pattern or example And ib. Christ is so far from telling us of such a way of being justified as that he informes us the reason why he abode in his Fathers love was his obedience he is so far from telling us of being justified by vertue of his obedience imputed that unless we keep the commands and obey for our selves c. And P. 30. was not Abraham justified by â—orks we must not conceive as the dark imputation of this age that Abrahams personal offering was not a justifying righteousness Ib. p. 30. I do say Abraham had not the imputation of anothers righteousness to him his personal obedience was the ground of that just imputation And elsewhere Apol. p. 148. justification by the righteousness which Christ fulfilled for us in his own person wholly without us we boldly affirme to be a doctrine of Devils and an arm of the sea of corruption which doth now deluge the world This is suâ—ficiently plaine And Sand. found Pag. 30.31 I farther tell thee that Iustification by an imputed righteousness is both irrational irreligious ridiculous and dangeroâ—s and Pag. 27.29.30 Iustification goes not before but is consequential to the mortifying of lusts and the sanctification of the soul. More might be added but here is I suppose enough to discover how these Quakers homologate in the point of Justification with Papists Socinians and Arminians in denying the imputation of Christ's Righteousness in Iustification and substituting another ground or formal reason thereof even works done by us And how dangerous an errour this is undermineing the very cardinal point of Christianity every true Christian may know The Quakers in this are one with their Predecessours the old Anabaptists too 4. We come now to our Quaker and must see how he expresseth himself in this matter In his Thesis he saith who receive the illumination of this light that is as we evinced above the dim light of nature it that must be the Light or the Natural Conscience becometh in them a holy pure and spiritual birth produceing piety righteousness purity and other excellent fruites most acceptable to God This sure is a wonderful metamorphosis But how cometh it that this light is so much beholden to man in whom it is that if he do not resist it but receive its illumination religiously it will become a glorious and mighty powerful thing but if he do resist it and receive not its illumination it remaineth what it was Is this the Christian New birth and Regeneration whereof the Scripture speaketh Is this to be borne of the Spirit There is no infusion of any gracious principle or habite of grace and virtue here for the seed of all was in the man from his mothers womb and his kinde nature in receiving the illumination of this connatural light blew the coale and it became a burning fire warming the soul into all Christian vertues Is this Gospel doctrine or rather is it not Pelagian-quakerisme What followeth upon this By this holy birth saith he to wit Christ Iesus formed within a goodly title but it is but the Quakers Jesus that is blake Nature or the product of Corrupt nature produceing his works in us these sure are nothing but works of darkness as we are sanctified so are we justified in the sight of God Then Iustification and Sanctification â—tand upon one and the same ground and if there be any difference betwixt them Iustification must follow Sanctification Thus it is manifest how he homologateth with other Quakers and how they all agree with Papists in the doctrine of Iustification He addeth and one may wonder at the mans confidence and boldness according to the Apostles words but ye are washed but ye are sanctified in the name of the Lord Iesus and by the Spirit of our God But if either his sanctification or Iustification as now explained to us be either in the name of the Lord Iesus or by the Spirit of God I am far deceived Nay it is manifest that they are rather by the Power and Authority Vertue and Efficacy of Free will and the Natural Spirit of man receiving kindly the Illumination of that natural Light in every man and so transforming that natural thing to produce such works as by which the man is both Sanctified and justified Though this be the native sense and import of his words yet marke his effrontedness Therefore sayes he it is not done by our works produced by our will nor yet by good works considered by themselves What a shameless man is this to deny these works to be mans owne works which flow from a principle borne and brought into the world with him and not only so but actuated and transformed into a new pure and spiritual spring by the sole will of the man not resisting its light but receiving the same If these be not properly the mans owne works it is a great question if man have any works that can be called his owne But let it be so that they goe under the name of works done by a new infused principle and yet the Quakers are more Pelagian then the Iesuites and all the Papists for these acknowledge infused habites which Quakers know nothing of yet they may be called mans works and works produced by mans will to wit now regenerated and principled of new otherwise they are produced in man and mans will hath no elicite or imperat acts thereanent This is indeed Phanaticisme in folio But how can men be Sanctified or Iustified according to the Quakers by that which is none of theirs nor wrought by them Againe he must know that the Scripture excludeth all these holy works even produced by that new principle from being the ground or formal reason or ratio formalis objectiva of our Iustification as all our Divines shew writting against the Papists on this head And in this he giveth further evidence of his conspireing with Papists against the truth Finally I wish he had explained that to us nor by good works considered in themselves for it importeth that good works considered some other way possibly in conjunction with some other thing and what that
of their lost condition And in our examination thereof in its several parts we have manifested the contrary And whether this be not a palpable untruth the Reader is free to judge He faith moreover That they deny remission of sins or justification to be had by any work of theirs c. And what is this to the point seing they say that we are justified by an Inherent Righteousness and not by Righteousness Imputed 10. He giveth us in the next place good words about the satisfaction of Christ which if he would stand to and not deceive us with Socinian glosses and metaphoricall senses he should withall overturne his owne doctrine about justification as we did shew lately § 6. In the third place he saiâ—h several things that are not true as first That all men that have come to mans age except Christ have sinned insinuating that none else have sinned nor are capable to sin until they come to Mans age and so denieth original sin and denieth that the wicked actions of young children and young girles who are not yet come to be men and women are sinnes Then sayes he Therefore all have need of a Saviour to take away Gods wrath due for sinnes Have none need of a Saviour but these only who are come to mans age qui aetatem virilem adepti sunt Doth the Scripture make any such restriction Where is then his universal Redemption that he pleaded For He addeth In this respect therefore he is truely said to have born the sinnes of all in his owne body on the tree In what respect is this Is it in respect that all have sinned but what sense is there here or truth either did he bear the sinnes of none but of such as are come to mans age what becometh then of infants boyes and girles and if he beare all their sinnes they must upon that account be freed from the guilt of sin and justified and so we shall have an universal justification as well as Redemption and this is confirmed indeed by the following words to wit therefore he is the sole mediator removing the wrath of God that our bypast sinnes may not meet us seing theâ— are pardoned by vertue of his sacrifice For this he understandeth of all for whom Christ died But he tels us afterward that remission is no other way to be expressed And I would ask whether there be any remission in or by justification and if so why are we not justified upon the account of the Righteousness of Christ imputed to us and received by faith Then followeth a word which undoeth all not to mention his parenthesis were he saith some may partake of this remission who have no knowledge of the history of Christ sufficiently above spoken unto Christ saith he hath by his death and passion reconciled us while enemies unto God that is to say he offereth unto us reconciliation and maketh us capable thereof If this be all it is but the Arminian Reconciliation he hath been speaking of yea and nothing but what a Socinian may say Sure the Apostle speaketh otherwayes of this Reconciliation as of that which certainly is attended with Iustification with such a Iustification as hath life following saying Rom. 5 8 9 10. But God commendeth his love towards us that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us much more then being now justified by his bloud we shall be saved from wrath through him for if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son much more being reconciled we shall be saved by â—is life The reconciliation then which was had by the death of Christ the Son of God was not a meer offer of reconciliation nor a meer capability for it But that which was a certain forerunner of salvation and that which Salvation must necessarily with a much more follow He citeth 2 Corinth Chap. 5 vers 19 20. and tels us that the Apostle insinuateth that seing the wrath of God is removed by Christ's obedience the Lord is ready to be reconciled with them and pardon their sinnes if they repent Which is a manifest perversion of the scope and meaning of the Apostle who is there shewing how the Reconciliation of sinners unto God is brought about both upon Gods part and upon mans part not of all the world but of the Elect scattered over the face of the earth and from the beginning of the world how they were brought into peace with God through Iesus so it is a limited world as appeareth by the us used ver 18. And againe more fully ver 21. for he hath made him sin for us who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him And therefore it is onlâ— that world he understandeth here for whom Christ was made sin having their sinnes imputed to him as their cautioner and sponsor who by vertue hereof are cloathed in due time with his righteousnesse imputed unto them and so are made the righteousness of God in him Now all this was not a meer may be or a mere possible or potential thing but such as was attended with a non-imputation of trespasses nor doth it import only a readiness in God to be reconciled with all upon conditions as if there were none in particular whose sinnes the Lord did bear and for whom he offered up himself a satisfactory sacrifice to the justice of God purchasing unto them faith to be granted in due time whereby they should come â—o be actually reconciled unto and brought in favour with God when through his grace they should yeeld unto the beseachings of Christ's messengers to whom the Word Ministrie or Administration of this Reconciliation is committed as to Ambassadours for Christ sent forth to beseach in Christ's stead By all which the Apostle is clearing how all things are of God and particularly all the new things which the new creature the man in Christ is made partaker of vers 17 18. And moreover we see verse 14 15. that these all for whom Christ died are one time or other made alive unto God through grace communicated to them from their Head Christ As it followeth And that he died for all that they which live should not hence forth live unto themselves but unto him which died for them and rose againe And who will say that it shall at any time be said with truth of all the world that they are thus alive 11. He tels us next of a double Redemption both which he sayes are perfect in their owne nature and as to us cannot be separated Then all certainly must be redeemed the one way who are redeemed the other way What is the first That sayes he Pag. 127. made by Christ in his crucified body without us and by this Man as he standeth in the fall is put in a capacity of salvation and hath transmitted into him a certain measure of power of grace and of the vertue of the Spirit of life which
is in Christ which is able to overcome and eradicat the evil seed Ans. 1. The Redemption made by Christ on the crosse and by his obedience and sufferings we cheerfully acknowledge But that it was a Redemption made for allâ— we abundantly disproved above Chap. VIII 2. That there was any such Power Grace or Vertue of the Spirit of life purchased hereby and granted to all is false and abundantly above disproved likewise See Chap. X. 3. To imagine that every son of Adam hath power granted to him to subdue and root out natural corruption is but pure Pelagianisme Arminianisme Iesuitisme but not the truth revealed to us in the word of God is to wedge warr against thâ— pure grace of God and the free operations thereof to set the crown of salvation upon the head of the creature all which we made manifest above at several occasions 12. What is the Second Redemption that is inseparable from the other It is that sayes he which Christ worketh in us And what is that It is that sayes he further whereby we possesse and know that that pure and perfect redemption is in us purifieing us delivering us from the power of corruption and bringing into favour union and familiarity with God Answ. 1. That the Lord Jesus Redeemeth by Power through his Spirit from sin and corruption all such as he hath Redeemed by Price from Law and justice we willingly grant But how can he say that these two are inseparable seing then they must be of equal extent and so as the first Redemption was in his judgment for all and every man the second must extend to all and every man and so all and every man must be delivered from the power of corruption and consequently must be saved Againe how can he say this who pleadeth afterward for the Apostasie of the Saints But 2. This purifying and delivering from corruption as would appear by his words is not wrought by the second Redemption but only a knowing that that pure and perfect Redemption is in us purifying us c. And so all that is had by this second Redemption is but a sight of what the fruite of the first Redemption is doing So that by the first Redemption not only man hath power to subdue corruption but he actually doth subdue it without any new grace or divine help and by the second Redemption he is only delivered from darkness which hindered his actual perceiving of the operation of the gift and grace bestowed upon the first Redemption 3. whether is this second Redemption necessary unto salvation or not I suppose he will say yes Then what shall become of the childe of God that walketh in darkness hath no light what shall become of them that have true grace and grace uniteing them to Christ to God through Christ yet through darkness the Lord dispensing so partly as a punishment partly for tryal exercise can see and acknowledge no such thing 13. He tels us over againe that by the first Redemption all mankinde was so far reconciled unto God that they were made capable of salvation and had the offer of Gospel peace citeing for this Ephes. 2 15. 1 Ioh. 4 10. Ezech. 16 6. 1 Pet. 2 22 24. 3 18. Tit. 2 14. Phil. 3 10. Ans. 1. we have seen before at several occasions that the Redemption of Christ is a far other thing and hath far other effects even remission of sinnes 2 Cor. 5 19. actual reconciliation grace and glory Dan. 9 24 26. Col. 1 19 20. Ephes. 1 11 14. Ioh. 17 2. Heb. 9 12 13. 2 Cor. 1 20. 2. The very texts cited by himself make against him for Ephes. 2 15. he died to make in himself of twaine one new man so making peace and this was not a mere capacity See vers 13. but now in Christ Iesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. Was this only a capacity of coming near or a meer offer of it deluded souls may think so but the words are plaine let him see also Ephes. 1 7. 2 5 6. The next place he citeth is 1 Ioh. 4 10. Where God is said to have sent his son to be a propitiation for our sinnes and sure a Propitiation doth work more then a meer possibility of friendshipe and he was so a Propitiation as that for the same persons he is an Advocat with the Father 1 Ioh. 2 1 2. His next passage is Ezech. 16 6. And doth he think that when God saith to any lying in their bloud live that that creating word giveth nothing but a meer capacity to live See vers 8 9 10 11 12. But this properly is to be understood of Gods dispensation of love to that visible Church as such and so is not very pertinent to the purpose in hand His next passage is 1 Pet. 2 22. he would say 21. 24. And what can be more clear against him seing the Apostle saith vers 24. that he bear our sins for this end that we being dead to sinnes should live unto righteousness and then addeth by whose stripes ye were healed See also Chap. 1 vers 18. Where he saith that we are redeemed from our vaine conversation See also Chap. 1 2 4. He citeth next 1 Pet. 3 18. Where it is expresly said that Christ hath once suffered that he might bring us to God and not put us in a bare capacity Was this mans minde present when he wrote these citations Why did he not cite also Col. 1 vers 14. Gal. 1 vers 4. 3 vers 13 14. 4. vers 5. If he would cite passages against himself As also Revel 5 vers 9 10. 14.3 4. Tit. 2 vers 14 14. He explaineth over againe his Second Redemption and addeth that hereby we are really Iustified That is when we are sanctified we are Justified or Justified by sanctification as say the Tridentine Papists Then he tels us That both the Redemptions are the cause of Iustification the first the procureing cause and the last the formal cause And just so say they as we saw above out of the Councel of Trent and may be seen in Bellarmine who de justifie lib. 1. Cap. 2. proveth that Jesus Christ is the meritorious cause of Justification and is sounder here than I suppose this Quakers is who complyeth more with Samosatenians Socinians against whom Bellarmin there disputeth And the Councel of Trent said that Christ did merite justification to us by his most holy passion on the tree of the crosse Wherein doth this man now differ from Papists the worst of them I mean such as follow the Councel of Trent There are some Others that may shame this Quaker in this point As Contarenus a cardinal who in his Treatis of Iustification cleareth and determineth the question thus Because by faith we attaine to a twofold â—â—ghteousness one inherent whereby we are made partakers of the divine nature thâ— other
it but in a wrong thought or in coming short in the least measure of the right manner of doing a duty is inconsistent with regeneration say our Quaker and yet he saith within a line or two that every sin doth not destroy a spiritual condition These things cannot hang together a person wanting a leg or an arme cannot be called a perfect man as to his integral parts gold having drosse admixed cannot be called pure 11. His last Position is That he will not affirme that such a state is not attaineable here in which to do righteousness becometh natural unto the regenerat soul that in the stability of that state they cannot sin Answ. This is an higher degree of Perfection than what he mentioned before for the former was such a state in which one was able not to sin though he might also sin possit non peccare Item possit But this is such in which he cannot sin peccare non possit And as to this he ingenuously confesseth he himself hath not yet attained it in which his modesty and ingenuity is commendable But he dar not deny but there may be such a state seing it seemeth to be expresly affirmed by the Apostle 1 Ioh. 3 9. Answ. But if he so interpret the words of the Apostle Iohn as importing this highest degree of perfection he must also grant that this highest perfection is not only attainable in this life but that it is common to all renewed persons for Iohn speaketh this as a truth of all that are borne of God and of all that have this seed in them and this is true of all that are truely Regenerated all such are borne of God and Gods seed is in them What will the man now say Though he will say that he is in such a state wherein he is able not to sin possit non peccare yet if he dar not say that he cannot sinne non possit peccare he must acknowledge himself not to be yet borne of God and to be void of the seed of God This passage if it prove any thing for perfection will utterly destroy this Quakers first kinde of Perfection which is a possibility of not sinning and that as common to all Regenerat persons But neither the one nor the other is asserted hereby the Apostle who only saith that he that is borne of God cannot make a trade of sinne and be wholly taken up therein as his constant work and exercise wherein he is delighted and findeth pleasure and full satisfaction as a man doth in his daily trade and employment He doth not say that such have no sin for he had said the contrare Chap. 1 8. but that they do not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 trade in sin and this is opposite to that which is their trade and occupation 1 Ioh. 2 29 they do worke or trade in righteousness 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This doing working or tradeing in sin is peculiar to such as are of the Devil as the doing working and tradeing in righteousness is peculiar to Gods people 1 Ioh. 3 7 8 9. He that committeth sin is of the devil whosoever is borne of God doth not commit sin so that such as are borne of God do not commit sin as do such as are of the Devil and do the works of the Devil And this committing of sin is opposed to the work of purifying or studying of sanctification which lively hope setteth the beleever upon vers 3.4 and importeth a fixed set purpose and resolution to work in sin with full purpose of heart and to give up themselves to the trade of sin as delighting therein and as devouted thereunto adde that such sinne not so as to fall away and lose the seed nor unto death See Chap. 5 16 17. 12. Thus we have seen his Opinion which in short is this That all the Regenerat are in such a state as that they are able noâ— to sin or transgress any of the commands of God but to keep them in all points and walk up to full conformity to the Law yet they may also sin through their own fault and unwatchfulnâ—ss for it is not impossible But some may come unto that hight of perfection as that it is impossible for them to sin they cannot sin Let us now see ere we examine his grounds what affinity this opinion of his hath with the Old Pelagians with the late Socinians and Others as to the first Vossius his Historia Pelagiamsmi Lib. 5. Part. prior Thesi prima Pag. 460. giveth us their opinion thus They said the Saints led their life without sin which they laboured to prove from the instances of those who in Scripture are said to have keeped the Law perfectly Yet they distinguished betwixt such as never sinned all their dayes and such as at first were sinners but afterward left off to sin The first they gave to Abel the last unto Paul See what he citeth to verifie this He sets downe the Antithesis of the orthodox Pag. 462. thus That none by the power of nature could fulfill the Law That none by strength of grace did live all their dayes without sin That none attained that measure of holiness in this life that he could live any long time without sin The perfection ascribed to some in the Scripture was not from nature but from grace Nor for all their dayes Nor at any time full and absolute but which might increase and was mixed with evil deeds and so was a perfection of parts only not of degrees And this he cleareth out of Hierom Iustin Martyr Ambrose Gennadius Chrysost. Beda Origen Cyprian Macarius Optatus Augustin Ivo Carnatens Lombard He tels us moreover Pag. 4â—8 That unto these instances out of Scripture urged by the Pâ—lagians They answered that by perfection was meaned Sincerity or a true not feigned study of obeying all God's Lawes and actual obedience according to the measure attained in this life and in comparison with others but not any full or absolute perfection As an house is said to be perfect which is yet but in building in respect of the beginnings by a synecdoche of parts or of desire by a metonymie of the end 2. In comparison with rubbish or with an house not so far advanced 3. In respect of promise when the builder undertaketh to compleat it And so the righteousness here was perfect 1. Inchoatively in respect of the beginnings and desires 2. Comparatively in respect both of the ungodly and of the godly who are more imperfect 3. Evangelically whereby all is said to be done when that which was not done is pardoned And this to have been the Judgment of the orthodox he proveâ—h out of their writtings as of Hierom Orosius August Gelasius Bernard The Reader may see more in his 2. Antithesis Pag. 473. c. out of Nazianzen Tertullian Optatus Millevit Hierom c. For the better maintaining of this Perfection the Pelagians said that sinnes of ignorance were no sinnes I
comp with Ioh. 7 38 39. 2. It is affirmed that he is in them and abideth in them Psal. 51 11. Rom. 8 9 11 15. 1 Cor. 2 12. Gal. 4 6. 1 Tim. 3 14. 1 Ioh. 2 27. Rom. 5 5. 3. He Sealeth them unto the day of redemption Ephes. 1 23. 4 30. 2 Cor. 1 21. 4. He is a Spirit of Adoption Rom. 8 15. Gal. 4 5 6. 10. Fourthly If we consider the Covenant of Redemption betwixt Iehovah and the Lord Mediator this will be abundantly evinced For 1. The Father hath given a number to Christ to save Ioh. 17 2 9 11 12. 6 37 39. And Christ hath undertaken to save them Ioh. 6 37 39 40. 2. The Father hath undertaken that Christ shall see his seed Esa. 53 10. and see of the travel of his soul be satisfied Esa. 53 11. Psal. 72 8. 3. Christ had a commission to goe about this work to bring many sones unto glory was qualified for this end Esai 61 1 2 3. Esa. 42 6 7. 49 9. Heb. 2 10. 4. The Fathâ—r hath promised to give Christ what he asketh Psal. 2 8. 89 2â— 27 28. 5. Yea He hath sworne that he shall have an issue Psal. 89 35 36. Act. 2 30 31. Psal 132 11 12. 2 Sam. 7 12. 1 King 8 25. Luk. 1 61. 11. Fiftly The consideration of the nature of the Covenant of Grace will conâ—â—rme this for that is an everlasting and unchangable Covenant and haâ—h the promise of Perseverance in its bosome Gen. 17 vers 7. Ier. 31 vers 31 32 33. 32 vers 38 â—9 40. Ezech 11 17 18 19 20. Hos 2 19 23. Ioh 6 54 56. Esai 54 10. 12. Sixtly The Grace infused in souls according to the Covenant of grace is of an enduring nature especially considering how it is Watered Preserâ—ed and Cared for It is a remaining seed 1 Ioh. 3 9. sowne in good ground Luk. 8.15 by the rivers of water Psal. 1 3. And watered every moment Esai 27.3 See Ioh. 4 14. 7 38. And so is differenced from Gifts and Common graces and from temporary Faith and grace that evanisheth in the day of tryal 1 Ioh. 2 19. Luk. 8 18. Ioh 2 23 24. Mat 13 21. Ioh. 17 9. what this true faith is see Tit. 1 1. 1 Tim. 1 5 Gal. 5 6. 2 Pet. 1 1. 13 Seventhly The consideration of the hurt and dammage that the Asserting of the Apoâ—tasie of the Saints bringeth necessarâ—ly with it unto Christians may have its owne weight here For 1 Then they could not in faith and confidence pray for it for what is purely in the power of mans Free will and is not the sole work of God and of his grace we cannot we need not pray for contrare to Ioh. 14 13 14. Ephes. 3 17 18. 1 Thes. 5 23 â—4 and the Lords prayer teacheth us to pray that his Name be hallowed that his Kingdom come and that his Will be done in earth as in heaven 2. This would destroy their Hope and Confidence in God for preservation in the times of tryal and temptation contrare to Rom. 8 vers 35 38 39. 3. This would take away their joy of the holy Ghost anâ— Consolation and give ground of continual Anxiety Doubts Feares c. 14. Eightly The consideration of the blow that this doctrine would give unto many articles of our Faith and undoubted truths of our Religion may confirme us against it As 1 It would render the Obedience and Sufferings of Christ null and useless for he should then suffer and die and no man might be saved or healed by his stripes and death 2. It would also render his Resurrection Ascension and Sitting at the Fathers right hand ineffectual For notwithstanding thereof no man might be saved 3. It destroyeth his Death as the Death of a Cautioner for no man can be said to have died with him risen with him and to sit with him in heavenly places contrary to Rom. 6 3 4 5 8. Eph. 2 5 6. Col. 3 1. nor can he be said to prepare mansions for anâ— contrare to Ioh. 14 2 3. 4. It maketh the grand promise of the Spirit null of no effect 5. It taketh away the Catholick Church that shall certainly come to mount Zion and to the innumerable company of angels c. Heb. 12 22 23 24. 6. It would null that Christian Communion and sweet Fellowship of Saints 7. It would make Remission of sins of little comfort 8. And take away the faith of Life Everlasting 15. Having premised these things for clearing and confirming of the truth we come to examine what he sayes against it Pag. 167. § 2. He reasoneth from Iud vers 4. and supposeth that these that turned the grace of God into lasciviousness had once grace not knowing that this was not grace inherent or the true grace of God placed and planted in the soul and wrought there by the Spirit of grace but external grace held forth in the Gospel offer even that grace that shouâ—d have taught them to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts and to have lived soberly righteously and godly in this present world Tit. 2 12. It is that grace which is outwardly spoken and preached Act. 14 3. Ephes. 3 2. 1 Pet. 4 10. Next He reasoneth from 1 Tim. 1 19. supposing that that faith which some made shipewrak of was true and saving faith contrare to 2 Tim. â— 17. 4 14. while as it was nothing but the doctrine of faith as the word also is taken 1 Tim. 3 9. 4 1. Gal. 1 23. 3 2 5 23 25. Act. 6 7. Rom. 1 5 8. In the third place he reasoneth from Heb. 6 4 5. Not so much as noticeing that the words are but Conditional and not Absolute if they fall away And that there is nothing here no not one expression that is necessarily to be understood of true and saâ—ing grace and not of meer gifts and common graces given in a more than ordinary measure no one expression here of Regeneration of true Sanctification of Closeing with Christ of their being Justified or Adopted or Elected c. Nay the Apostle compareth them to ground upon which the raine falleth and yet beareth nothing but thornes and briars vers 8. distinguisheth them from those to whom he wrote of whom he expected better thingâ— that accompany salvation vers 9. and from true beleevers vers 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19. When our Quaker out of his friends the Socinians Arminians shall say any thing to prove that these expressions import true and saving grace we may then think it time to spâ—ak more of this but seing he is pleased to give us no more here but his naked assertion we have said enough and so proceed 16. The next thing he alleigeth against this truth is a supposition that he hath undermined the ground thereof viz. Election But how superficially this was attempted we have seen But he sayes
Body the fulness of him that filleth all in all Ephes. 1 10 22 23. 5 23 27 32. Col. 1 18. The visible Church which is also Catholick or Universal under the Gospel not confined to one Nation as before under the Law consists of all these throughout the world that profess the true Religion 1 Cor. 1 2. 12 12 13. Psal. 2 8. Revel 7 9 Rom. 15 9 10 11 12. together with their children 1 Cor. 7 14. Act. 2 39. Ezech. 16 20 21. Rom. 11 16. Gen. 3 15. 17 7. and is the Kingdom of the Lord Iesus Christ Mat. 13 47. Esai 9 7. the house and family of God Ephes 2 19. 3.15 out of which there is no ordinary possibility of Salvation Act. 2 47. Unto this Catholick visible Church Christ hath given the Ministrie Oracles and Ordinances of God for the gathering and perfecting of the Saints in this life to the end of the world And doth by his owne Presence and Spirit according to his promise make them effâ—ctual thereunto 1 Cor. 12 28. Ephes. 4 11 12 13. Mat. 28 19 20. Esai 59 21. Adde hereunto Quaest. 63. of our Larger Catechisme What are the special privileges of the Visible Church Ans. The visible Church hath the privilege of being under God's special care and government Esai 4 5 6. 1 Tim. 4 10. of being protected and preserved in all ages notwithstanding the opposition of all enemies Psal. 115. throughout Esai 31 4 5. Zech. 12 2 3 4 8 9. and of enjoying the Communion of saints the ordinary Meanes of Salvation Act. 2 39 42. Offers of grace by Christ to all the members of it in the ministrie of the Gospel testifying that whosoever believes in him shall be saved Psal. 147 19 20. Rom. 9 4. Ephes. 4 11 12. Mark 16 15 16. and excluding none that will come unto him Ioh. 6 37. 2. Here is our doctrine laid downe in few words What would this man now say He giveth us first the Etymology of the greek word that we render Church and thence tels us that an Ecclâ—sia or Church is nothing else but a company of such as God hath called out of this world Against which I have nothing to say only for clearing the matter I would adde That there is a company called out of the world by the grace of God power of his Spirit to worshipe him in Spirit and in Truth and this is that company which is called the Church invisible because their union with their Head and with one another is by a bond of true and saving Faith and sincere Love which are not obvious to the eyes of men As also there is a greater company of persons called out of the world to profess the Name of Jesus to worshipe Him outwardly according to his word and to owne him for their King by submitting to his Lawes Ordinances Officers by an outward profession And this is that company which is called the visible Church because both their exercise their bond of union with this King with one another is outward obvious to the eye to wit an open Profession of the true Religion outward submission to following of the ordinances institutions of Christ But as to this visible Church in his following words he seemeth to take no notice thereof for he describeth to us the Church Invisible and then tels us that without this Church there is no salvation But this is impertinently spoken for that Church is made up only of the elect And if we should speak of the Invisible Churâ—h as now existing in this world we could not say that any elect belonged to it but such as were effectually called for the rest were not yet called out of the world or out of their state of nature and he told us that a church is a company of persons called out of the world To say thâ—n that there is no salvation out of that company that are already affectually called is neither pertinent nor truth for there are many who are not yet called whom God will in due time call and bring home and these whom he hath elected he doth bring into the visible Church where they may enjoy the ordinances which God hath appointed â—or Conversion And therefore we say that out of this visible Church there is ordinarily no salvation But all this is said by him to make way for his Church that will take in Heathens Pagans Turks and Tartars that never heard nor never shall hear a word of Jesus Christ which Church as he would delineate it to us hath not the least relation to Christ as Head and King nor any advantage of or interest in the Institutions of Jesus Christ. And what a Church this shall be let any sober Christian judge 3. But let us heare himself speak He calleth the Church a company of such as God hath called out of this world that they may walk in his light and Life One might readily suppose that this were good but hear more Vnder this notion saith he of the Church all these are comprehended of what Nation Kinde Tongue or Family they be though far removed from and strangers to these who profess Christ and Christianity in words and enjoy the Scriptures who obey the divine light and testimony of God within them so as by it they become sanctified and washen Ans. That is in short All Heathens and Pagans who have never heard of Christ or of Christianity belong to this Church of persons called out of the world to walk in God's Light and Life if they have obeyed the Light of Nature and of a Natural Conscience teaching to abstean from grosse sinnes This is the Quakers Church and the Church of persons effectually called out of the world which they mean which is nothing else but a Church of moralized Pagans A pagan-Church without the Knowledge of Christ Profession of Christ Faith in Christ Worshipe of Christ Acknowledgment of Christ Union with Christ without the Gospel of Christ and the Spirit of Christ. Anâ— though he call this the Catholick Spirit and the secret life and vertue of Iesus Yet it is in truth nothing but Catholick nature which cannot understand the things of the Gospel This is further confirmed by what he addeth Therefore saith he they may be members of this Catholick Church who are Pagans Turks and Iewes and of every seck among Christians if they be good single hearted men though they be ignorant and superstitious Thus we see the Quakers Church is erected according to the Covenant of works and that now broken founded upon the Law of Nature directed by the Light of Nature and to it belong all civil outwardly moral persons whatever Religion they have and how superstitious soever they be Yea though they worshipe stocks and stones and the Devil for there is no exception here Reader what thinkest thou now of this Church of this Profession and of this Religion It is Catholick I confess alas
This man hath his fables ready at hand for we had such another before but few of his Readers can know whether he speaketh true or false all that I shall say is that this fable is impertinently here brought in for the question is not whether a Professour or Doctor may not have a failing memory Nor whether a mechanick cannot have a more happy one what more is in this fable I cannot see unless he would hence inferre that the Spirit teacheth them without book hearing or reading the very letter of the Scripture even the very translated words And if this be true it is little wonder they are at no paines in reading the Scriptures let be in studying of them But till I know the truth of this mystery better I crave his leave to suspend my beliefe 9. The next point of learning is Logick and Philosophy But whether is it Natural or Artificial Philosophy that he is against Though I judge that a man may be a minister yet be no profound Philosopher nor expert in that which goeth under that name Yet I think some measure of knowledge thereof can not well be wanted especially in such as have to do with wrangling sophisters like this Quaker that would pervert souls propagate errour it hath its owne profitableness to other uses also But what hath this man against it It is sayes he the root and original of all contention How doth he prove this we know the best things may be abused but the abuse of a science may bear its blame the science it self be blameless It draweth men away from that clear understanding of things which reason it self might furnish This if so is but its abuse He that is not very wise can be a perfect logician This may be doubted And it may be he will not deny that one not very wise may be a good Christian doth it not helpe in defending of truth refuting of hereticks The truth that is in men truely rational needeth not this help and it will not convince the obstinate but teacheth them many artifices and distinctions to oppugnate the truth saith he Ans. What meaneth he by that truth with is in men truely rational is it natural truth or supernatural common or saving Me thinks he had need of some science whereby to explaine himself for his language is dark 2. Though truth in it self should not need this help Yet it may stand in need of some such help to fix it in a subject that is doubting either because of the darkness of his owne understanding or because of the contrary argueings of Adversaries 3. This science is only used as an instrumental medium to convince or if not to convince yet to confute their errours and to defend truth from their exceptions and that in such a rational way as may be convinceing to such as will not be obstinate 4. If any use its distinctions to oppugne the truth they must beare the blame for this abuse the distinctions may however be good Truth saith he comeing from an honest heart and taught by the Spirit will sooner penetrate then thousands of demonstrations as the Instance of the old man convinceing the heathen Philosopher whom all the Bishops of the Councel of Nice could not overcome with their disputes Ans. This is only when it pleaseth the Lord to concurre with his blessing And such rare examples are not ordinary and are to teach us in all these wayes to depend upon the Lord for the blessing and not to loose us from the use of the meanes What saith he to natural logick He doth not deny the use of this because every man in his wits hath it he hath also used it in this treatise Ans. But if natural logick be so useful why is artificial or acquired logick so noxious seing it only serveth to accomplish and polish the other Though every man in his wits hath this yet I suppose some have more and some have less and such as have less may be allowed to take some help to increase it If he hath only used that logick here I could wish him to take some more of artificial logick to helpe it and yet I think he hath not wholly renunced it in this Treatise though by neither nor by both hath he been able to gaine his point whether in confirming his errours or in darkning of the truth What sayes he to other parts of Philosophy That part sayes he which is called the Ethicks may be better learned out of the Scriptures Which is very true they being a full and perfect rule in all morals But I think that this study should not be unprofitable for him who will not owne the Scriptures as a Rule and acknowledgeth the light of Nature for a guide and only rule which is in all heathens and by which light alone they wrote their morals or Ethicks so that I think if he would make use here of his natural logick he might see how consequentially he should speak to his owne principles if he would recommend to all the study of Aristotiles Ethicks or the morals of some other Hethenish Philosophers instead of the Scriptures For Physicks and Metaphysicks saith he they may be reduced to Medicine and Mathematicques But not to be too Philosophical in disputing here with him why may not the knowledge of them Yea and of Mathematickes too be of some use to whatsoever art or science they may be reduced I would faine heare what reason his natural logick could give us to convince us that they could not be useful because of that As for my dull natural logick it can perceive no reason nor shew of reason In fine He citeth Col. 2 8. and 1 Tim. 6 20. which speak nothing against the innocent and profitable use of philosophy which is all we defend we speak not of that philosophy which is vaine deceit after the tradition of men and which as Beza on the place thinketh is that Theology which is the product of humane vanity leaning only to Custome and Enthusiasmes let him consider this what Calvin on the place thinketh this Philosophy to be and it may be he may see his owne Theology comprehended under it if not mainely understood What is this Philosophy then in Calvines judgment Even wâ—atever men devise of their own head while they think themselves wise in their owne opinion and that not without some specious pretext of reason And a perswasive discourse insinuating in the mindes of men with faire and plausible arguments And nothing else then a meer corruption of spiritual doctrine And all adulterous doctrines which breed in mens braines whatever colour of reason they may have This is enough for Col. 2 8. And as for 1 Tim. 6 vers 20. The science falsly so called there spoken of is not Philosophy but a science of coineing and uttering new and vaine bombast words giving a sound without substance tending to corrupt and darken the simplicity of the Gospel A
science wherein I know none more expert and skilled than are our Quakers He may read Calvin on the place if he will And for a close to this How great a prejudice so ever he hath against Philosophy yet in the primitive times Christians who had been Philosophers was not by their Philosophy less fitted but more to defend the truth against heathen Philosophers as Iustin Martyr against Valentinus Tertullian against Marcion Origen against Celsus Chrysostome against Libanius and Prudentius against Symmachus 10. The last part of humane literature which he inveigheth against is that which is called Scholastical Theology by which I suppose he meaneth that only which now commonly goeth under that name as distinct from Polemick divinity handling controversies debated betwixt the orthodox and heretical or erroneous persons such as Pelagians Socinians Arminians Anabaptists Antinomians Quakers and the rest And as to it I shall say no more than I have said Chap. 1. § 12. and suffer him to go on in his ranting Only I must take notice of some expressions which he hath here and there in this discourse Though I cannot understand how Origen should be among the first who by this art gave himself to interpret Scriptures nor how hereby Arius fell into his errour seing this Theology is commonly commenced from Peter Lombard yet I am glade to hear him Pag. 201. calling that heresie of Arius who denyed the Son to be equal with the Father in power and glory and of the same essence horride for many of his Brethren the Quakers either doubt of or directly deny the Trinity Yea Mr Clapham in his book against the Quakers Sect. 3. tels us they call this doctrine a lie and citeth for it Saul's errand to Damascus p. 12. and the sword of the Lord drawn p. 4. And in this if he thinketh as he speaketh I would know how he will reconcile himself unto them but it may be he taketh Father Son and holy Ghost for one Person as well as for one essence as some other Quakers do He speaketh like a Quaker that is calumniously when he saith § 22. that this knowledge is accounted a necessary qualification for a Minister when the pure teaching of the Spirit of truth is contemned He may speak thus if he thinketh good against his old friends the Iesuites for we are for the teaching of the Spirit and preferre it to all other whatsomever but we are for the teaching of the Spirit in the way he hath appointed that is by waiting upon him in his ordinances meditating on his word and useing all other lawful meanes to come to the right understanding of his meaning in his word especially prayer But we dar not with this deluded bold generation tempt the Lord by looking for immediat Revelations and laying aside all Meanes and Ordinances in coming to the saving knowledge of his Name as revealed in the Gospel of his Son Jesus Christ. We account it also a calumny for him to say ibid. that he who is to be a Minister must lairne the airt of playing a hookster in the word because we say he must attend unto reading of what is written for the understanding of Scripture And whereas he thinketh the Devil could make as good a sermon as the most learned I only demand and may he not also make as good a discourse without book as they do I fear he hath too great a hand in all their discourses and scriblings too 11. What he saith Pag. 202. § 23. is but a groundless commendation of their way and of themselves as the only men raised up of God to be witnesses foâ— him If they have shaken the foundations of Babylon as he saith how cometh it that Babylon and they are so well agreed and that in principal matters as 1. In vilifying the Ministers of Christ and calling them deceivers 2. Denying our Churches to be true Churches 3. In calling the Scriptures but a dead letter 4. In denying it to be the judge of controversies 5. In refuseing to have all Spirits tryed by the written word 6. In crying up the sufficiency of a common light within 7. In maintaining Free will 8. Perfection 9. Apostasie of the Saints 10. Justification by inherent holiness 11. In confounding Justification and Sanctification 12. In mocking at the â—mputed righteousness of Christ. 13. In placeing holiness in outward observations of their owne deviseing 14. In Pretending so much to Revelations Visions Raptures c. 15. In pretending to Infallibility As for the Increase of their number whereof he boasteth it is a clear verification of that 2 Thes. 2 9 10 11 12. whoâ—e coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signes and lying wonders with all deceivablenes of unrighteousness in them that perish because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie That they all might be damned who believed not the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness Wâ—at he talketh further of his owne experience of the power of their discourses is but a further demonstration of what we said to wit of his being given up to strong delusion as this volumne of his putteth beyond all question with such as believe the Scriptures And for a recompense of his exhortation to us in the close I shall also obtest him in the Lord to consider his wayes over againe and search after the procuring cause of this dreadful judgment of the Lord 's giving him to up to those delusions that he may repent and be saved for what high thoughts soever he may now have of that way he will finde his delusion in end either here which I shall wish or when it shall be too late which the Lord prevent in mercy CHAP. XIX Of the Ministerial Office 1. WHen our Quaker beginneth to speak of this matter Pag 203. § 24. he followeth his usual manner of crying up themselves and loading all their Opposites with what expressions of disrespect and contempt he thinketh meet We are the men with him as the orthodox were of old with the Swenkfeldians Familists and Antinomians who alwayes adhere to Externals following our External Rule and Methods devised by our carnal and humane Wisdom because we follow and desire to cleave unto the Rules and Methods and all the Orders prescribed by Christ to be observed in his owne House And upon the other hand They are the men who follow the wayes of the Spirit and his immediat Help and Influence and he leadeth them as he saith in such an Order and Methode as becometh the Church of God though this order and methode of theirs wherein they suppose the Spirit leadeth them be no prescribed Order in the word but the meer Invention of their owne fantastick â—raine blasphemously Fathered upon the Immediat Teaching and Leading of the Spirit of God for we know no ground to imagine that the true Spirit of God will lead
is put upon all women for Eva her carriage 5. He thinks the passages we have cited out of Pauls Epistles do not oppugne their doctrine And yet a more plaine contradiction is not imaginable But what is his reason Women sayes he have Prophecied and preached in the Church Ans. That the Lord hath made use of women to be Prophetisses of old we grant for he is free to make use of whom he will His rare and extraordinary acts are no rule to us but his Law is our Rule and to the Law must we goe to the Testimony He is absolute and not bound by the Rules and Laws he prescribeth unto us Otherwise sayes he that of Ioel had been ill applied by Peter Act. 2 17. Ans. That is wonderful and strange What saith the Prophecie of Ioel as it was applyed by Peter Were there any women preachers among that company converted by Peter Nay Peter's applying of that Prophecie of Ioel to that present dispensation and exigent wherein we hear not of the least appearance of any women-preachers is a manifest declaration of the contrary 6. But he saith further That Paul himself in that same Epistle to the Corinthians gave rules how women should demaine themselves in their publick preachings and Prayers Answ. Thus the Man would have the Apostle contradicting himself in that same Epistle Is it not saifer for us to say that whâ—tever rules he gave they were such as did well consist with this plaine peremptour and enforced prohibition of their Preaching Teaching or Speaking in the publick meetings of the Church But what were the rules he gave concerniâ—g women He said Chap. 11 5. But every woman that prayeth or Prophecieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her â—ead This he taketh to be meaned of the womens carriaâ—e when they were Prophesying or praying publickly before others in the Assembly but his mistake is manifest for the Apostle is only shewing what the carriage of both men and women should be while they were present in the publick Assemblies and at the time of publick worshipe while the word was spoken and explained and publick Prayers used not by themselves but by others appointed thereunto 7 He tels us next That paul speaketh of a certain woman that laboured with him in the Gospel Ans. where he speaketh of a certain woman that laboured thus with him I know not but I finde Phil. 4 3 that he speaketh of women in the plural number that laboured with him in the Gospel And all the question is what way they did this He imagineth that it was by publick preaching in the Assemblies but what ground is there for this what hint is there given of this or thinketh he that there is no labouring in the Gospel but by publick preaching It is written saith he that Philip had four Daughters that Prophesied It is true we read so Act. 21 9. But where read we that they preached in the Publick Assemblies of the Church To Prophâ—sie and foretell things to come is not to preach in publick Finally he tels us that it is observed that this day God hath converted many to himselfe by the ministrie of women and frequently comforted the mindes of his sones which manifest experience putteth the matter to us beyond all controversie Ans. 1. That God may make use of women for this effect and hath oft blessed their honest endeavours to his end we most willingly acknowledge but the question is not about their paines and labour in private and in their particular and private stations and capacities but about their publick preaching in open and publick Assemblies of the Church â— Or meaneth he all this as done in the publick assemblies of the Quakers If so I shall suspect that work of conversion and take it rather for perversion or delusion 3. Such experiences being false and fasly founded can evince nothing against the standing and binding lawes of Christ in his Church This man speaketh much on every occasion of their experiences and it seemeth these are all the Quakers bible or their maine topick from which all their arguments are brought to defend all their erroneous and irregular practices But we judge it saifest to examine experiences by a standing rule and if they agree not therewith to account them delusions of Satan or at best the result and acts of the power of their owne vaine imaginaâ—ions And if men will steer their course by such a Compasse we think it little wonder they dash on rocks and make shipwrack of truth Enough of this seing I suppose truth could suffer no detrimâ—nt though I should give way to women to speak in their meetings for I cannot account them lawful Church Assemblies but disorderly Routes CHAP. XXI Of Ministers Maintainance 1. WE come now to the last particuliar touched upon by him in this his Tenth Thesis wherein he is some what large and indeed it is one of the maiâ—e Common places that the Quakers on all occasions make use of in crying down the Ministrie as thinking they have some popular advantage in this ground to cry out against them as hirelings and what not Wherein they joyn with Anabaptists and Levellers little knowing or considering how much hereby they are playing the Devils game Iulian the Apostate when he was seeking to extirpate the Christian Religion by wiles thought this a very effectual meane to accomplish that desperat designe by viz. to reduce the Ministrie to Contempt and Poverty by withdrawing their immunities and stipends as we read Sozom. Hist tripart lib. 6. c. 4. And who seeth not the manifest tendency of such a designe The Aegyptian Priests were more carefully looked to Gen. 47 22. When the Levites his ministers were neglected the Lord accounted it a robbing of himself Mal. 3 8 9 10. Will a man rob God yet ye have robbed me But ye say wherein have we robbed thee In tithes and offerings ye are cursed with a curse this whole nation c. Ought not Quakers to feare this curse But they fear nothing said in the Scriptures If the light within be their friend all is well 2. What would this man be at in this matter He tels us Pag. 210. § 28. That they willingly confess that they to whom Ministers are sent if need be should supply their necessities This is me thinks a poor allowance to have only their necessities which some may possibly contract to little bounds supplied and that not absolutely either but if need be The necessity then that must be supplied must be very necessitous and extreme yea a double necessity and very constringing possibly he will allow no more than will serve to put away the greatest extremity of hunger misery This is given with a very niggardly hand Secondly he saith that it is lawful for them to take what is necessary And who would call this in question seing hunger we say will break thorow hard walls Men do not despise a thief if he steal to satisfie his soul when
he is hungry Prov. 6 30. would not this Quaker pity a Minister if he were driven to this straite to take something to satisfie his hunger though it were not formally given him and will he allow no more then that he take what is given for the supply of his necessities which may be very pinching before some ill-willers like our Quakers will let them passe for necessities He tels us therefore that he will not oppugne a necessary aliment Wherein he is wise for it may be the Quakers themselves both get and take more What will he then oppugne an aliment that is limited and compelled and then what is superfluous and sumptuous But what if that which some shall account superfluous and sumptuous be in it self all things considered nothing else then necessary who shall be judge in this case must the Quakers only sit on the bench as judges here If so some might possibly suspect them of partiality and accuse them of cruelty If the Supreme Magistrates of the land be judges herein who can reasonably refuse their umpirage and determination Will it not satisfie him if Ministers rest satisfied with their decision No it will not satisfie him for against this he rageth as thinking it superfluous and sumptuous and I shall not deny but as to soâ—e it may be so and therefore shall plead rather for others who have but whereupon to live honestly as becometh Men of such a function and it may be scarce that But be it what it will be he will not have it limited And yet some way or other it must be limited that it may answere the case of necessity by a geometrical proportion for an arithmetical proportion will not so well answere the necessity which cannot be supposed to be alike in all Who then shall make this limitation Shall the givers only do it But what if their allowance be too scanty must the honest minister perish for want Shall the Magistrates He will not yeeld to this for then that would bring in a compelled maintainance which he will also oppugne But if there be not some legal compulsion I owne no illegal unjust and iniquous compulsion what shall some Ministers do who have to do with such hard hearted persons as would rather suffer the Minister and all his houshold perish with hunger before they would give what is just yea or what is necessary if they were not compelled by law How shall they get their necessities supplied These things we see can not well hang together 3. He tels us that only this that is a necessary aliment and no more is included in these passages of Scripture Gal. 6 6 1 Cor. 9 11 12 13 14. 1 Tim. 5 16. We must then alittle consider these passages that we may come to some clearness herein The first is Gal. 6 6. Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things But let us read the following verses too where this matter is pressed Be not deceived God is not mâ—cked for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting And let us not be weary in well doing for in due season we shall reap if we faint not As we have therefore opportunity let us do good unto all men especially unto them who are of the houshold of faith Gal. 6 7 8 9 10. It is like there were some of our Quakers principles even in these dayes who dealt unworthily with the Ministers of the Gospel And it hath been Satans way in all ages to have men superfluously large in their allowance to superstitious courses and to Idolatry but niggardly spareing in the maintainance of truth But Paul considering what an open door this was to let-in ignorance if the labourers in the word were thus dealt with sets himself against this evil and will have every one whom the Minister catechizeth and instructeth to communicate unto the Minister in all good things this is not to contribute with others to a bare supply of his necessities but it is questionless a larger allowance and that not in this or that particular good thing but in all good things And because many might and possibly did pretend that there was no great necessity the Minister had enough and more and they had little enough for themselves and their owne families as worlds wretches who love the mammon of this world better than durable riches in heaven can devise many such things therefore the Apostle addeth Be not deceived God will not be mocked It was with Him and not with man only they had to do and he knew the truth of all as he knoweth what really prompteth the Quakers to this opposition whatever plausible pretexts they may alledge And further he saith whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap To tell us that this communication should not be with a niggardly and spareing hand as we say men must not hunger tâ—e ground they must sow liberally that their harvest may be the richer and they would sow as expâ—cting an harvest upon their sowing and not suppose that all that is given away to Ministers is cast in the winde seing it will have an harvest following it Moreover he tels us that the communicating of their good things after this manner is a sowing to the Spirit which shall be followed with a reaping of life everlasting not that this did exhaust the whole import of the expression which the Apostle doth here thus accommodate nor as if all such as are thus liberal unto Ministers shall have ground to expect life but that the honest and conscientious liberal dealing of such as are thus beneficial upon a good account for maintaining of truth and of the preaching of the Gospel the meanes of propagating the Kingdome of Christ and of the great designe of the Spirit is in it self a sowing to the Spirit and if their hearts be upright in the maine and if they thus sow to the Spirit they shall certainly of the Spirit reap life everlasting But on the other hand what is keeped-up to the defrauding of labourers of what they should have is in God's account a sowing to the flesh and the harvest thereof shall be corruption and thus their very niggardliness shall destroy their substance And lest some might think that too oft giving might tend to poverty He addeth vers 9. and let us not be weary in well doing for in due season we shall reap if we faint not To shew that there should be no sitting up here and that folks fainting and drawing back their hand prejudgeth themselves of the harvest that would follow in due season Upon which consideration he presseth a more universal beneficence not only to dispensers of the word but to all persons especially to the houshold of faith and that when ever opportunity is offered What liberality
worship as their worship is not grounded upon the Scriptures So nor have the Scriptures any place in their worshipe contrare to the practice of Christ and his Apostles Luk 4 vers 16. 21. Act. 17 2 3. 8 vers 4 25 35. 9 vers 22. 10 43. 13 5 15 16. c. 33 34 35 36 37 40 41. 18 28. 4. Though there be no approaching now for sinners unto God but in and through a Mediator and all our service and worshipe must be performed in him through him Col. 3 17. Eph. 2 18. Ioh. 14 6. 1 Tim. 2 5. Ioh. 14 13 14. 1 Pet. 2 5. Yet I hear nothing of Jesus Christ in all their worshipe It can therefore be no Gospel Worshipe which they goe about for as all that must be in the name of Jesus the Mediator as having his warrand so it must be offered to the Lord through him Hence 5 all their Solemne Worshipe is nothing else then may be gone about by Pagans and Heathens that never heard of Christ for there is no Gospel Worshipe no Gospel Duty no Gospel Ordinance to be found in all their most solemne service neither Preaching nor Prayer nor Praise nor Administration of sacraments nor any Duty instituted in the Gospel 6. Nay in this they seem to come short of the orderly devotion that is exercised by some Heathens who have their Priests publick Officers to carry on their worshipe with a piece of order and solemnity But they know no such thing their worshipe we see is carryed on without the orderly leading and foregoing of any Person peculiarly designed thereunto unto 7. They speak of going out from their owne thoughts or of expelling them and it is convenient and neâ—essary I confess that all carnal and worldly thoughts be laid aside when we are to approach unto the great and living God for our minds ought then wholly to be abstracted from all Impediments and taken up alone with God But how comprehensive their own thoughts may be I know not and whether he may not meane a laying aside of all use of Reason and Humanity that so they may be fitter receptacles of the In workings of Satan and of the Impressions of his delusions we may possibly heare something hereafter which may give ground for this supposal 8. He tels us that when tâ—ey are thus conveened they meet with a secret vertue and power of life refreshing their souls c. But is this common and ordinary to them all and is it so at all times Then they are all and that alwayes while about the worshipe of God in a good frame and the Spirit who bloweth where and when he listeth never withdraweth from them but is alwayes present in Love and in Power But what is this Life that hath such Power and Vertue If we call to minde the principles of the Quakers formerly considered and examined we will finde that it is not the true and real Grace of God bestowed upon them through Jesus Christ and wrought in them by his Spirit but the mere Operation and Product of nature and therefore all the refreshing of soul that they feel thereby must be but Natural and Carnal how sensible so ever it may be 9. He talks of Motions Respirations of the Spirit of God which flow forth but whence flow they From their owne Spirits or from that refreshing of soul or from the power and vertue of that life he spoke of But the chiefe thing I would have noticed here is How shall we know or how do they know that these Motions and Breathings are the motions and breathings of the Spirit of God The reason of the enquiry is because they have laid aside the Scripture the only sure teste for tryal of Spirits and of the motions of Spirits and not only so but they are now gone out of themselves and are no more Men having laid aside Humanity all the Cogitations Imaginations of Men How shall they how can they or any other know whether these motions be motions of the Spirit of God or of the Spirit of darkness Cannot Satan play his game in persons thus prepared for and laid open unto his workings and insinuations Hath he not thus wrought in many who thus gave up themselves unto his Power and Delusions 10. when these who are thus acted and moved by a Spirit blake or white utter words of declaration prayer or praise how shall it be known that these words are words of truth and righteousness It seemeth all is good coine that cometh that way and no doubt is to be made thereof no examination or tryal is to be made all is to be received by an implicite faith and sure if these Declarations Prayer Praises be suteable to and corresponding with their Doctrine and Principles we have ground to think that they are such as no Christian can with a good conscience receive or joyn with and though he think that what is so spoken is delivered in the evidence and demonstration of the Spirit and of power yet if we judge by the Scriptures of truth we must say that it is rather in the evidence demonstration of the Devil 11. When one is so moved and speaketh what do the rest Must they attend thereunto and joyn there with But what if they be at that very instant prompted by what is within them to utter words of declaration prayer or praise and this is not impossible must they all speak together where is then order and edification or must they be silent and listen to what the other speaketh till he have done How will he salve this from a limiting of the Spirit But next can the rest hearken and joyne without an inward motion thereunto If so then that part of worshipe is performed by them without the previous inward motion of the Spirit Or must the rest waite for their proper and particular motions then there is no publick worshipe performed by the Assembly 12. But as to that mumry and dumb service when nothing is uttered how can that be callâ—d a Publick Worshipe of God what publick worshipe is there and then performed by the Assembly and where doth he read of any such Publick Worshipe performed unto God in all the Old or New Testam How differeth this from the dumb service of some Heathens performed to their Idols And what mutual edification is there had hereby He tels us it is true that even then their souls are exceedingly satiated But where with or whereby Not by any publick exhortation prayer or praises for there are none that which is not cannot edifie He tels us also that their hearts are wonderfully replenished with the secret sense of the divine power and Spirit But how is this brought about This power sayes he is transmitted without words from vessel to vessel Sure this is no usual way of the Lord 's working and why should he imagine in this case a transmission from vessel to
they last but even as it were a moment of time yet do more illuminate and Purifie the soul then many yeers spent in active exercises of spiritual prayer or mortification could do The progress to this state of perfection they thus describe He who would come to it must practise the drawing of his external senses inwardly there loseing and as it were annihilating them then he must draw his internal senses into the superiour powers of the soul and there annihilate them likewise and those powers of the intellectual soul he must draw into that which is called their unity and lastly that unity which alone is capable of perfect union with God must be applyed and firmly fixed on God wherein the perfect divine contemplation lyeth In which union all is vacuity or emptiness as if nothing were existent but God and the soul yea so far is the soul from reflecting on her owne existence that it seems to her God and she is not distinct but one only thing Is not this the very life of the Quakers publick principal worshipe 27. Furder we are told see Pag. 336. that they lay down as a fundamental rule That God only by his holy inspirations is the guide and director in an internal contemplative life and that all the light they have therein is from immediat divine illumination and that this light doth extend further and to more and other more particular objects then the divine light or grace by which good Christians living common lives in the world are led extends to Very Sutable is this to our Quakers doctrine above And we are enformed further that Mr Cressy in his discourse of Passive unions saith That God reveals himself to the soul by a supernatural species impressed in her which revelations are either sensible as apparitions words c. or intellectual either immediatly or by Angels The effects of which supernatural species in actions of God are Rapts or Extasies internal visions c. Our Quaker might have given us some such thing as a more likely ground of their quaking and trembling More might be adduced out of that forecited Book but this taste is sufficient to let us see that our Quakers way and worshipe hath been long ago in use among much applauded by the Fanatick Papists 28. Afterward I providentially saw the Sermons of one Taulerus a Dominican who preached at Colone about the Yeer 1346. translated into Dutch by Ioannes de Lixbona and printed at Antwerp A. 1647. an Author much commended by Bzovius in Annal. Trithemius Bellar. de Script Eccl. Blosius wherein I found without any narrow search several expressions shewing whence our Quakers have their rare things of which I shall adduce some instances not to mention the manner of his conversion set down in the relation of his life how while he was sick sad dejected a voice came said to him Be at peace and relye upon God know that when he was in the world in Mans Nature he cured all their souls whose bodies he cured which may be doubted as to the nine Lepers who did not return to give glory to God Luk. 17 17 18. at which he was transported out of himself and had no use of his senses or of reason for a time Whereupon his friend an old man told him that now he had felt the grace of God in truth and was taught by the holy Ghost had the Scripture in him and could now understand it all and reconcile all seeming contradictory places and that one of his Sermons should now do more good than an hundered formerly Waving this which yet looketh very like our Quakers way I shall mention some few expressions of many in these his after Sermons In his first Sermon on the first Sunday of the Advent he saith that people must Introvert into themselves and abide by themselves in their inward fund or ground and observe there the appointments of God his drowings and callings and take these immediatly from God Whence we may see where our Quakers have learned their peculiar language But moreover in his second Sermon on that day he speaks of an Essential Introversion into the fund of the soul where God dwelleth and the true light shineth without any errour And afterward tels us of three men in every man The outward man that must be exercised with fasting watching Prayer c. The Inward man or the Soul which must be exercised with inward devotion earnest desires c. And then The fund of the soul or the most inward Spirit exercised in essential or substantial Introversions and true unitings with God beyond all works thoughts and enjoyings or embraceings 29. In his sermon on the first Sunday after Candlemess he told his hearers that in order to the new birth they must Introvert and abide in their noblest part to wit into the fund for there is the place of this birth and next That they must not have so much as one thought of God as only Wise Almighty c but must be empty of all Thoughts Words and Wâ—rks and of all Formes and Images of the understanding and only suffer God to worke in them and become thus holily empty A little after he saith That this fund of the soul is the secretest part of the soul in which the soul worketh nothing knoweth nothing understandeth nothing here the soul doth nothing by her powers of memory understanding and will but immediatly by her own essence and all the powers whereby the soul worketh flow out of the fund of the essence in which fund is the inward silence and in this alone is rest and waiting for this birth and there doth God the father speak out his Eternal word and in this fund of the soul cometh God wholly as he is and not divided and no creature can come there but must abide without in the powers Nay he told his hearers afterward That in the fund of the soul God begetteth his Son the same way that He begote him from eternity that is by knowing and seeing himself perfectly by himself and in his own essence And this Iâ—troversion from all thoughts imaginations he afterwards saith is like Paul's being out of the body 2 Cor. 12. 30. In his first Sermon on new Years Day he saith That the Person that doth essentially give himself alwayes unto God as a prisoner hath God also given up to him essentially as a prisoner and that this person is turned into the essence of God in some sort and that God is alwayes sensibly present with him in all things And in the same Sermon he saith Man must in all his work Introvert and waite on God there and let him work and look on himself but as an Instrument and do all by suffering and permitting and not by working and so continue one that worketh inward and dwelleth inward and so draw himself in and sinck into the fund of the soul where God is present and dwelleth he must give himself to
remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God which is in thee seing gifts were of no use and the stirring up of gifts were in vaine because all without gifts or stirring up of gifts was to be done by the immediat impulses and motions of the Spirit 12. in vaine also should he have said as 2 Tim. 1 13 14. Hold fast the forme of sound words which thou hast heard of me That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost For he was to regard no forme of sound words nor take any notice of that gooâ— thing which was committed to him but do and say as he was acted and inspired 13. what roome is left by this opinion to that word 2 Tim 2 14. Of these things put them in remembrance charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words For he could remember them of nothing nor lay any charge upon them if they were to do all as the Spirit moved them 14. The following injunction vers 15. is made also useâ—ess by this way Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not be ashamed rightly divideing the word of truth For it taketh away all care and study in this matter and the preacher can make no other division of the word of truth than what is of and by the Spirit and that must alwayes be right 15 All that the Apostle sayeth 2 Tim. 3 14 15. should also be in vaine and to no purpose 16. If this way be the truth why did the Apostle say 2 Tim. 4 1 2. I charge thee therefore before God and the Lord Iesus Christ who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom Preach the word be instant in season out of season reprove rebuke exhort with all long suffering and doctrine might not Timothy have replied I have nothing to do with that charge I cannot I may not preach either in season or out of season nor can I Reprove Rebuke nor Exhort nor have I Doctrine wherewith to do it The Spirit doth all must move me and inspire me to every Doctrine Preaching Rebuke and Exhortation and that at every time and season 17. Hâ—reby that should be also rendered useless which is said 2 Tim 4 5. But watch thou in all things endure afflictions do the work of an Evangelist make full proof of thy ministry 18. If this be the way why did Paul say to Titus Chap. 1 17 wherefore rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in the faith seing Titus could have said againe I shall do as the Spirit moveth and more I cannot I may not 19. So it taketh away the force of Paulâ—s injunctions Tit. 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 15. For Titus was to have his eye upon no Doctrine but speake what the Spirit moved him to speak nor was he to speak to either one or other age or sex or quality but as the Spirit acted him and what Uncorruptness Gravity Sincerity was requisite in his doctrine he was not to be anxious there about all would be so because dictated and inspired immediatly by the Spirit And what sounâ—ness of speach was requisite the Spirit would see to that and therefore he was not to regard what the Apostle enjoyned vers 15. These things speak and exhort and rebuke with all authority 20. The command Tit. 3 1 2. Put them in minde to be subject to Principalities c. must hereby be laid aside as not obligeing Titus who was purely to follow the Motions of the Spirit 21. How opposite unto this opinion is that word Tit. 3 8. This is a faithful saying and these things I will that thou affirme constantly What was not Titus to waite upon the motions of the Spirit 22. If matters be thus how could the Collossians say to Archippus take heed to the ministrie which thou haâ—t received in the Lord that thou fulfil it seing Archippus was to follow the free and arbitrary motions of the Spirit 2â— This opinion rendereth that injunction of Paul's unto the ministers of Thessalonica 1 Thes. 5 14. useless Now we beseech you brethren warne them that are unruly comfort the feble minded support the weak c. as to preaching 24. It would hence follow that all that such ministers spoke were infallibly true for what the Spirit speaketh through men or by men as his meer organs must of necessity be truth and nothing but truth and that certainly and infallibly and so must be esteemed of and regarded as Scripture 25. If the matter be thus it is all one thing whether the preacher be Young or Old a Childe or a Mâ—n of experience for it is not he that speaketh but the Spirit in him yet Paul requireth that he that is put into the Ministrie be not a novice 1 Tim. 3 6. 26. Thus did the Prophets and Apostles preachâ— and declare their visions as undâ—r moral commands though they were under no such commanâ—s to receive the visions where they had no election Ier. 1 v. 17. 26 15. Esa. 6 8 9. Ier 15 19 20. 1 Cor. 9 16. 9. More might be said upon this head but this may suffice and I have said the more of it because they use to make it one of their common theames while they would in their popular discourses inveigh against the Ministrie seek to make it contemptible with people Let us now come and consider what he saith And first he beginneth to speak against the methode Pag. 249. And what is this methode Ministers are free to follow what method they think most edifying and are not bound to one certain prescribeâ— methoâ—e But sayes he when Christ sent his disciples to preach he told them they should not premeditate what to say nor speak of themselves but the Spirit should in the same houre teach them Mat. 10 20. Mark 13 11. Luk. â—2 vers 12. Ans. Knoweth he not that at that time Christ gave them their preaching with them telling them what they should say saying And as â—e go preach saying the Kingdom of heaven is at hand Mat. 10 7. Knoweth he not that in these places by him cited our Lord is speaking of their appearing before Magistrates and Higher powers where they might through fear and anxiety be so discomposed as not to know well how to speak in their owne defence and that our Lord addeth these words to free them of all anxiety about the matter But sayes he if it was so with them when standing before men much more in preaching when they stand before God Ans. This consequence is weak and contradicted by the Text it self where we see they had their sermon taught them before hand and beside when they were sent out to preach they knew what they were to say but when called before Magistrates they could not know before hand what questions might be proposed unto them and upon that account might be anxious and troubled which to prevent this promise is made
This is Quakerisme indeed 13. What he addeth Pag. 256. § 23. of some turning superstitious some idolatrous and others formal upon this account if he meane it of all that oppose him and contradict his opinion I look upon it as a groundless calumny if he meane it only of some I have no minde to defend them in it Nor shall I need to retaliat and say that their leaning to these false Inspirations and diabolick Excitations having forsaken the good old way are direct meanes through the judgment of God to confirme them in their Paganisme and Paganish Antichristianisme for the matter is notoure enough though I mention none of their other miscarriages even after their Enthusiasmes wicked Inspirations and Introversions 14 Before he come to answer Objections he speaketh Pag. 25◠§ 24. to the defence of their irreligious profane and contemptuous carriage in our Assemblies for worshipe where they love to come to do open affront both â—o God and men for even in time of prayer or praise they will remaine covered He saith they do this only to keep their conscience unhurt But if there were such hazard of sin in joyning with us in our worshipe why come they to the place of Worshipe Their end can be nothing else but to do open contempt if they beleeve as he saith that our worshipe is an abomination they should keep far aback from it But the truth is their Antichristian Spirit which acteth them to an hight of rage will not suffer them to see Christ worshiped in his way And how knoweth he that our ministers pray alwayes without the Spirit Hath he the gift of discerning Spirits And can he go in to the heart and see how maters stand there We profess that we pray without the Spirit and have therefore our limited times sayes he But he is a liar we say no such thing The gift and the grace of Prayer both is of the Spirit and though it too often falleth out that there is not that faith in dependance on the Spirit that there ought to be both for the gift and for the grace yet it is not our profession that prayer should be without the Spirit and this praying with the Spirit can well consist with praying at such and such times But that Spirit without which we say we pray is your Spirit of delusion or your fantastical Dreames Impulses Drawings and Inspirations which for any thing we can see are diabolical But it seemeth they have a sagacious Spirit of discerning when one prayeth in the Spirit and when not for he sayes though one in our presence should beginne to pray not expecting the Spirit yet if it appeared that the Spirit of the Lord concurred with him we would also joyn And what is that I pray that will make this manifest unto them Is it talking in the Quakers dialect Or the Mimical posture of the body Or what is it I am apt to beleeve it must only be something of that nature As for Alexander Skeins Propositions I meddle not with them because some other hath answered them and the substance of them I have already confuted 15. He cometh after this digression to examine Objections Pag. 260. § 25. And the first is this If such inward motions and impulses be necessary to Outward acts oâ— worshipe why not also to Inward Nay much more they must be necessary for the special motions of the Spirit are more necessary unto the grace of prayer than unto the gift and in the outward exercises of worshipe there is more of a gift required than in inward What answereth he Vnto these general duties the motion and influence of the Spirit dureing the day of visitation is alwayes present striveing with the man so that if he but stand and be abstracted from his evil thoughts God is near to help him But external actions stand in need of greater and more particular influences Ans. Not to insist here on the confutation of the marrow of Pelagianisme which is laid downe for his ground thaâ— being done sufficiently above I only take notice here that with our Pelagian Quakers an Heathen or a Pagan can love God with all his heart adore fear believe in him and performe all inward worshipe of this kinde easily when he will he hath divine influences at his command nay the Spirit is within already for that end so that if he will but sist his course and abstract from his evil thoughts which he may very easily do God is at his hand and the work will go on but as to uttering of words much more is requisite that is if I be not far mistaken Nature can help him to perform â—ll Inward worshipe but he must have the supervenient Influence of an evil Spirit to act him before he performe any publick act of worshipe Such an enemie is this Spirit that acteth the Quakers unto all Publick profession of the name of Jesus and worshiping of him openly that he will never suffer any thing that looketh there away to be done until he have his hand so in it that he shall be sure it shall be more worshipe service to himself than to Christ 16. It is Objected againe That by this principle no man should do a morall duty as honour his parents do justice to his neighbours plow the land until the Spirit move him for no service else can be accepted He answereth There is a difference betwixt those general duties and particular acts of worshipe These are spiritual and are commanded to be done by the Spirit Those some way answere their end as to them whom they immediatly concerne though they proceed from a meer natural principle of self love Ans. Who denieth that there is a difference betwixt them yet each of them must be performed in the right manner else they are not acceptable and the right manner cannot be without the Spirit This he confesseth And therefore must yeeld the argument And we deny that worshipe is to be done in the Spirit according to his sense and no other way that is only by the immediat Inspirations and Imâ—ulses and Drawings of the Spirit we affirme worshipe ought to be performed in the Spirit that is by his gracious Assistance graceing the soul and breathing on his graces that they may act seasonably But sayes he further As a natural Spirit is required to performe natural acts so the Spirit of God is requisite to the performance of Spiritual acts All is granted yet he knoweth that to performe natural acts in a spiritual manner the Spirit of God is requisite and if natural acts be not performed in a spiritual manner they are not accepted of God and therefore according to his principles we must not eat drink sleep walk work plow c. till the Spirit stirre us up immediatly and carry us to the duty because without this previous motion of the Spirit we will but commit abomination in all these actions as well as in worshiping without the Spirit So
17 12 16 17 Neh. 13 15 17 21 22 25 30 2 King 23 5 6 9 20 21. 2 Chron. 34 31. 15 12 13 16. Dan. 3 29. 1 Tim 2 2. Esai 49 v. 2. Zech. 13 23. 3. Our Quaker premitteth some things for clearing of the question and first he tels us that by Conscience as he said before he understandeth that perswasion of soul which ariseth from the Intellect with the truth or falshood of a thing Anâ—w 1. How this description can agree to a scrupulous or to a doubting Conscience I see not for neither of these have attained to any perswasion though I know a blinded conscience or an erroneous conscience can have a sort of perswasion 2. Before to wit Pag. 89. he told us that some of the Quakers did fitly compare the Conscience unto a lanterne and the light of Christ to a candle burning in it And compareing this with what is here said we may see that in the Quakers judgment the light of Christ whereof they talk so much is nothing but the light of the understanding for it is this light of the understanding that causeth the perswasion which he calleth Conscience here and it is that which shineth in the dark lanterne of conscience as they speak there But 3. How can Conscience be compared to a lanterne seing a lanterne is a dark thing having no light in it self only it hath an aptitude to transmit the light that shineth in it but Conscience is a lump of light and is either an act of the practical understanding as some or rather as others a power of the practical understanding is not a distinct faculty from the understanding but the very understanding judging of and giving sentence upon the mans State Wayes and Actions And the very name Conscience importeth a knowing power and faculty con scientia or co-knowledge to it belongeth the Synteresis the intellectual store-house and magazine of truthes the Register of common notions left in us by nature whether as to things concerning God or as to things concerning Ourselves and our Nieghbour in respect of which the conscience is said to be a Law or Light and this belike is all the Light of Christ which our Quakers understand And the judgment of Conscience being discursive to it belongeth also the knowledge of all the mans actions in which respect it is called a Book or Witness or an Indiâ—ement as it bringeth forth these actions to light and compareth them with the Law To it also belongeth the judgment or sentence passed upon the actions as conforme or disconforme to the Law of God 4. Conscience then cannot properly be called a perswasion for this resulteth from the clear apprehensions dictats witnessing and judgment of the Conscience and so is but a consequent of Conscience acting that not of every conscience either as not of a doubâ—ing nor of a scrupling conscience but of a clear and sound conscience or of a deluded one 4. What saith he further which to wit the thing presented by the intellect thâ—ugh it be false and evil in it self yet as long as the man is perswaded to wit that it is true and â—ood he should sin if he did contrary to that perswasion for saith the Apostle whatever is not of faith is sin and he that doubteth is damned if he eat And Ames saith a conscience erring tyeth c Answ. It is true whatever the Conscience dictateth or enjoyneth it doth it in the name and authority of God whose Deputy and vicegerent it is yet it is but an underjudge and is not the supream Law but regula regulata so that though its dictats even when erroneous and contrary to the Law of God do so binde as that the man who doth contrary cannot but sin for though upon the maâ—er he doth nothing contrary to the Law of God yet formally and interpretatively he transgresseth that which is represented to him by Conscience as the Law of God and he knoweth no better but it is in very deed the Law of God which he transgresseth Yet for all this the erroneous conscience layeth on no formal obligation as the same D. Ames telleth us for it cannot oblige us to do that which is a transgression of the Law of God our supream Lawgiver It is true which the Apostle saith Rom. 14. last that whatever is not of faith is sin c. because when we do any thing not knowing certainly but in so doing we sin against God we shake off the awe and fâ—ar of God and have not a sufficient abhorrence at sin 5. He proposeth the question thus Whether the Civil Magistrat hath power to compel men against their conscience in maters of Religion And if they will not obey to punish them in their goods liberty and lives And he holdeth the negative I Answere This is a most perverse stateing of the question For 1. He distinguisheth not the Elicite and Imperat acts of the Conscience but confoundeth them As if the Magistrates power were said equally to reach both whereas we do not say that the Magistrate can compel men as to the inward liberty of the soul and conscience that is to Thiâ—k Judge Understand and Conclude in their mindes as he will as if he could force and compell any to Believe and Assent unto this or that opinion in the matters of God We say no such thing the Conscience as to these inward acts is far beyond the reach of his Sword But the question is concerning Outward and Imperated acts such as Speaking Preaching Writing Printing Open Profession and Perswading of others which are visible and audible dishonourable to God and noxious to men to wit Whether the Magistrate may punish such by the Sword who in maters of Religion Teach Speak and Printe blasphemies against God doctrines overturning Religion perverting souls c. And other things of that nature that men can pretend conscience for or not If he hold the Negative here as he must if he speak to the point we shall consider his arguments 2. Upon the other hand Though the Magistrate cannot enforce a Religion upon men Yet he may force them to the use of publick meanes whereby they may be brought to the knowledge and conviction of the truth As to hear sound Instruction and Information and to attend the meanes whereby light is usually conveyed into the soul and this is no force upon conscience but a putting of people to duty 3. So then the question is not whether the sword be a meanes of conversion of men to the true faith nor whether heathens are to be compelled by the magistrates sword to embrace the truth Nor yet whether the Inward Opinions of the minde can be punished by the Magistrate But the only question lyeth here Whether the Magistrate can by his power punish and restraine Open Idolaters false Worshipers false Teachers Perverters of the right wayes of the Lord Seducers of souls Corrupters or Deniers of the true worship of God open
Blasphemers of God and his wayes declared and open Atheists who deny there is a God the like whose doctrine eateth like a canker 2 Tim. 2 17. and who Apostatize from the truth received professed and teach rebellion against God though they pretend conscience in all this and say their conscience dictateth such things unto them and commandeth them in the name of the Lord to do such things and teach such doctrine or not 6. He will not extend this liberty of conscience unto practices that are hurtful unto our Neighbour or unto humane society as Libertines do but only to those things which are immediatly betwixt Men and God or men and men of the same perswasion Ans. But 1. â—roaching of errours is noxious to our neighbour eating as doth a canker 2 Tim. 2 17. subverting the hearers 2 Tim. 2 14. subverting whole houses Tit. 1 11. subverting souls Act. 15 24. it is a work of the flesh Gal. 5 vers 20. 2. Broaching and propagating of superstition and idolatry cannot but be noxious both to our neighbour and to humane society in that it ushereth-in and tendeth to the bringing-on of the wrath and judgments of God by which he punisheth such courses And therefore evil must be put away from the Society Deut. 13 5. 17 7. Levit. 20 vers 2 3 4 5. 3. Let us take these hurtful things to be mâ—aned of transgressions against the second table of the Law I would know why the Magistrate can more punish for these than for violations of the first table He is a keeper in his place and according to his power of both tables of the Law and so can punish open transgressions of both But the maiâ—e ground of my question is How the Quaker can yeeld this and not the other seing Conscience may be pretended in the one as well as in the other And the Conscience can be misinformed and when misinformed can binde as well in the one as in the other Either then his ground which he layeth downe to wit that an erroneous conscience bindeth so as the man â—ar â—ot act contrary to its dictates is not good and sufficient in this mater or by â—his his concession he yeelds the cause and undermineth his own Assertion 4. What meaneth he by that betwixt men and men of the same perswasion Do all maters of question and debate betwixt men of the same perswasion belong otherwise to conscience than maters of debate betwixt men of contrary perswaâ—â—ons May the Magistrate medole with no mater of debate or question even about civil maters that is betwixt men not of the same perswasion Then they must not meddle with the Quakers if they wrong the persons and gooâ—s of any of another perswasion This is enough to expose all true Christians to the fury and malice of the Quakers whence we see his Concession is not for nothing 7. But he explaineth himself better in the following words saying to wit to meet together and worship God that way which they judge will be most acceptable to him but not to urge their neighbours save by perswasion and reason and other means which Christ and his Apâ—â—tles used as of preaching and instructing and not at all under pretext of conscience to do any thing against the moral and perpetual statutes which all Christians commonly acknowledge Ans. But 1. Then the Magistrate may not hinder persons to meet together to worship a stock or a stone Yea or to offer up their children to Moloch to sacrifâ—ce beasts crocodiles birds c. to Iupiter Mars Vulcan or to prostitute their wives and daughters or commit sodomie in honour of Venus as Heathens have done because their Consciences judge that this way of worship is most acceptable to God 2. To urge Neighbours by perswasion to embrace Errour and to follow Idolatry Superstition and false wayes of Worshipe is a most noxious and hurtful thing destroying their souls subverting their faith and exposeing them to the wrath and indignation of God and so of far worse consequence than the wronging them in their Names Goods and Bodies and therefore requireth much more the Magistrates sword of justice to punish such noxious soul ruining Teachers 3. Still the doubt remaineth why the pretext of conscience cannot warde off the Magistrates sword in matters of the second table of the Law as well as in matters of the first seing conscience is God's deputy and only subject to him in the one as well as in the other 4. Moral and perpetual statuâ—es comprehend I suppose the commands of the first table as well as the commands of the second table and it is no matter whether all Christians commonly acknowledge them or not for God's moral Lawes borrow no force or strength from our acknowledging and receiving of them And thus we see this poor man destroyeth what he would be at And when he condemneth in the following words the Anabaptists at Munster he confirmeth wâ—at we say for they pretended conscience and though as he saith their deeds rather flowed from pride and avarice than purity and conscience Yet that helpeth not the mater for it is as apparent that the actions of our Quakers cannot flow from Purity and Conscience unless we understand a develish deluded conscience which hath no affinity with Purity whatever they pretend 8. He tels us next Pag. 316. that all the liberty which he pleadeth for is but that which the Primitive Christians required of the Heathen Emperours Ans. But he should first prove that the truth they profâ—ss is consonant to the truth which the Primitive Câ—ristians owned We say not that Magistrates whether Heathen or Christian should persecute the truth or hinder by Lawes or violence the Professours of truth to meet and worshipe God in tâ—e way by him appointed If his way be the way of truth he should not plead for toleration for toleratio semper est mali And if he can manifest it to be the way of truth I shall willingly grant that Magistrates should not only not trouble or tolerat him but should countenance and encourage him But we have heard enough already to demonstrate how dissonant that which they maintaine is to Scripture truth and to primitive truth and so we see no ground whereupon they can plead for the same liberty which the Primitive Christians did desire and plead for especially considering how they have Apostatized from the truth once by themselves professed and having renunced their baptâ—sme and the faith once delivered to the Saints would seduce all others to the same abomination 9. He sayes next he would not have men as men and members of the Common wealth molested in their temporals or privileges for their inward perswasion Answere And I say the same but publick meetings to the dishonour of God and scorne of Christianity And acts of preaching and seduceing by creeping into houses and loading captive silly women laden with sinnes and led away with diverse lusts is not a meer
sowing these tares Thirdly We would labour each of us to have our souls deeply impressed with the preciousnesse of Christ and the absolut necessitie of making use of him for salvation for the Devils great and manifest designe is by these his Trustees and Traffickers to dispute men and debauch their spirits into a contempt of the precious Saviour and that great salvation which is purchased by his death and never since he began hath he made use of a mean which hath so cleare and close a connexion with that end Now Christ can be precious to none he can be prized by none who is not vile in his own eyes he who lives not within sight of his own loathsome leprosie and who is a stranger to the plague of his own heart will reject the counsel of God against himself and despise the great salvation And it is cleare beyond debate that the Devil do his best can never proselyt any man into this delusion and damnable haeresie of Naylorisme aliâ—s Quakerisme till as the God of this world he have first perfectly blinded their minds that he may harden their hearts into a final rejection of the true Christ the Saviour as the alone and onely way to be clothed with a sufficâ—ent righteousnesse and cleansed from all that filthinesse of the flesh and Spirit whereby they are defiled and from which they can onely be cleansed by that blood which these blasphemers tred under foot Let every one therefore who would keep himself in the love of God and of Christ keep his finger upon his sore that his eye may be keept â—â—xed upon the remedie for if the Devil get not his finger into a mans eye and blind fold him as to the uptakings of his own miserie and the precious remedie he will never turne him into a Naylorist that he may turne and tumble him into hell with his own câ—nsent Study thy self till what thou seest force thee to say I am the cheife of all sinners and then all that the Devil can say to the contrare will never put thee from thinking it is a saying faithful and worthy of all acceptation that Christ came in the world to save sinners Growing in this grace of the right knowledge of a mans self and of our Lord Jesus Christ is the onely expedient to defeat the designe he drives by these drivers and to be preserved from being led away with the errour of these wicked Fourthly Study to know the great principles of the Oracles of God and to have these impressed upon thy soul that so when assaulted by Satan thou mayest hold fast that truth which can onely make thee free And let the fallings away of others make thee the more closely cleave to that blessed Guid who leadeth in all truth In a word Let each one be busie in studying the word of God and his own heart and be much in holding up his heart to him who writs the Law in it that so his heart may become the Epistle of Christ and then he is guarded against taking on blasphemous and cursed Naylors blake marke Let the sad sight of that swarme of Apostats put thee to studie to know the truth in its power and sweetnesse And then when by the fallings away of others Christ is saying unto thee wilt thou also leave me thou will answer with that man whither shall I go from thee for thou hast the words of eternal life This will blessedly arrest the soul to an aboad with him when others will be carried away and never be seen any more to walk in Christs company Now to make thee give thy self in some seriousnesse to studie the precious Truths of God and to know him whom to know is life eternal thou mayest observe and be provoked to that exercise by thy observation what the Devil who is still going about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour is a doing and what he is thereby designing When he had for a long time bawled and blasphemed in not our non-sense lest his trade should decay and the market of these traffickers for the souls of men for the precious souls of men are the commoditie they deal in should misse their marke to the end that he may make merchandise still of such with feigned and fair words he prompts some to polish as well as they can with their parts and pen these blasphemies and give them some colour for which service his Apostle the Author of the Theses and Apologie is shaped and set apart as the sharpest and neatest pen. I shall not here as I intended digresse into observations upon the addresse of this book wherein he Chartals all the learned men in the world since it can escape no mans observation who reads his book with judgement and compares it with the addresse that this novice being lifted up with pride is fallen into the condemnation of the Devil Neither shall I take upon me to hint any thing as to the bulk of the abominations wrapt up in his voluminous fardell of blasphemie that being so excellently handled by what thou hast read in this exquisitly cleare Examen Onely as it seems that as the Devil thought to serve himself by a Barclaij Argenis the scope whereof was to teach how effectually to destroy Protestant Religion and swallow up the Truth in the See and sinck of Romes abominations so we have a second Barclaij Argenis the scope of which is under sceptick and introverted notions and new coined names to destroy Christianity and introduce pure Paganisme and thus with a confidence peculiar to that partie and like him who prompted him to the undertaking he would rant and Romance us into heathenisme But since he hath taken upon him to give us a Confession of a kinde of faith after he and his complices have made shipwracke of precious faith and flout without fear at the faith of Gods elect which is a systeme of Paganisme And since he hath published to the world the Naylorists Alcoran whereby he intends as Mahomet's Mufti to Mustelman the Christian world and Mancipat us to the Turks gallies or worse The Good Lord to prevent the Devil and this desperado's designe hath found out and fitted for the undertaking amongst the men whom of all others he most despiseth and abhorreth the singularly acute solidly learned and truely gracious Author who hath in his Masters cause and strength undertaken the work and taken this Turke to taske and in his convincingly cleare examen so discussed and dissected that carcase and carrion of all abominations as by the light of that Spirit of truth which hath led him in the Examen he hath manifestly discovered Barclay's pretended Revelations to be the horrid illusions and hellish suggestions of a Spirit of a blaker colour then Mahomets pigeon and himself to be the Devil in Samuels mantle perswadeing us by the assistance of his Mephystophilus instead of putting on the Lord Jesus Christ that we may be found clothed upon with that rob
of his righteousnesse that so the shame of our nakednesse may not appeare to put on I know not what something common to us with heathens who never heard of Christ a Iapan gown and place ourselves when we have done in the expectation of the Turkes Paradise or of none When Satan in pursueance of his project having gotten possession of this poor vainling and swelled him with the conceit of that felicitie of understanding whereof he boasts in his Vniversal love But more truely a plain discoverie of an Vniversal hatred to the Gospel of the Grace of God he puts him on having puffed him up to publish to the world what he had poisoned the poor creatures spirit with thereby to leaven the spirits of men with this hell-hatched heresie And now this parturient mountain having with a great stridor and Nayloristick noise to the end he may be heard in all Europe peched out this Pagan mouse Reader there is no jest here Alas there is no matter of jest when the Devil is in so nettle earnest to destroy all and makes use of this poor creature for that end I onely make use of a known Proverb commonly made use of in the like case he thinks by the felicitie of his ingine he is able so to pourtrey and paint this Pagan birth as to make poor simple and shallow us short of his searching and soaring wit believe it is an Angel and he endeavours to cloth this brat of his own deluded brain in such a buske as will make every one who sees its face fond of it and fall in love with its beautie But he is mistaken for so long as the light of this glorious Gospel doth shine amongst us every one that is led by that true light will perceive by the face feature and foaming of this brate he hath brought forth that it is hell-borne and that it is a Demon incubus who hath begotten it to which the Pagan Parent hath prostitute his darkened understanding Nay I suppose and not without ground that if the Devil who drave the Author on and was at the dictating of these dreames had his Doctors Dictats againe in his hand he would bury or burne them ere he subjected them to such an Examen whereby the Authors Hell-Craft or to please the Naylorist in speaking in their own dialect witchcraft is so manifestly detected as Satan who set him on missed his marke in driveing his deluded Trustee to belch forth what was so blake as now after the discoverie made by this Examen it passeth the power of his blake art to give it any colour besids his own who is its true Father Moreover I doubt not to say if the Author of these Theses and Apologie be not brought to see and acknowledge the blakenesse and abominablnesse of his Errors by the shineing light and sharpenesse of this Examen it is not because there is not a sufficiency of Scripture light in what is by the judicious Author adduced but because Satan hath engaged the Author of that Apologie in an opposition to the truth beyond a retreat and then what might otherwise prove a remedie must fret the disease and fire him into a heat of hellish indignation to see his desperat designe so far defeat as the light which he intended to darken and extinguish shines more brightlie after the smoake of the pit which came out of his mouth is blown away and the truth in its radiant beautie and brightnesse is the more cleared up that he essayed to overcloud it But that I may not exceed the length and limits of a Postscript let me desire these things of every Professor of the name of Christ shortly First seriously to peruse and ponder this Examen for thy own establishment in the truth But more particularly since the arrogant here answered did addresse himself to Clergiemen as he calls them and students let me beseech and obtest both Ministers and Students of Divinitie to a serious perusal and pondering of this piece not onely as the most full cleare and satisfying confutation of the hell-blake abominations of that prating and perverse gang of enemies to Christ that hath siâ—e the dismal appearance of that prodigious partie come from any pen for though I do not designe to derogat from the due praise of those worthy servants of Christ who have stood up for truth and withstood these blasphemers of Christ for which their name shall be favourie and their praise in the Church yet none of them had a compleat systeme of all their wicked dreames to answer till the Author of these Thesis and Apologie undertook to give it us and now it is answered But also because the partie here dealt with having first swallowed down and then vomit up what ever is mortal to the immortal soul amongst other Adversaries to Christ beside these dottages peculiar to themselves here thou hast a most learned and elaborat refutation of all these now grosse and grassant errors whereby the souls of men are in hazard to be murthered and the truth corrupted by these perverters of the Gospel of Christ such as Arminianisme and Socinianisme c. And I am sure by the diligent perusal of what is here brought to thy hand and the blessing of God upon thy pains thou maiest not onely be singularly edified established and built up in the most holy faith but put in case to speake with all the enemies of the Grace of God in the gate and if this may excite thee I professe that by the reading hereof I have found my self confirmed in the truth and much established in that doctrine which is according to godlinesse And forget not to blesse the Lord for his goodnesse to his Church in preserving beyond expectation the Authors life and for enabling him and holding his hand as in all the several encounters he hath had with the Adversaries to the truth so in a remarkable manner and measure in this rancountre with the Naylorists Goliah he hath been helped to disâ—over these depths of Satan which are in their doctrine so that this Naylorist may well hereafter sprawl spurne but a solid reply is beyond the felicitie of his understanding And every on will judge he hath but little reason to boast of that felicitie if he be so unhappily dull as not to understand this But if he intend a reply he had better cause some bold bawler undertake it and instead of all other refutation tell the learned and judicious Author that he is in the Imagination and Witchcraft and this will be the short cut And if he will take my advice he will finde it the saifest course onely let him remember that this course will be a confession in obliquo that Goliah's head is cut off and now the whole host of these uncircumcised Philistims must flee from the face and force of a little Presbyterian David But to such as are not able to follow fathom the Authors reach or have not so much time as
up and to the Creator againe that is infinite in it self which the hand goes against him that does evil in which hand the soul which is immortal and infinite which hand is infinite which brings it up to God is infinite Though little good sense can be made of this yet blasphemy enough is legible therein And G. Fox saith Is not the soul without beginning come from God It is not horride blasphemy to say the soul is a part of God for it came out of him and that which came out of him is of him Fisher in his Velata quaedam revelata Pag. 13 calleth that whereby man became a living soul and a soul that did partake something of Gods owne life a living principle of the divine nature And P. 17. He calleth the Spirit of man the immortal and incorruptible seed of God even something of the living word which is said to be made flesh Pennington Q. 27. calleth that which is in the saints that which the Lord from heaven begetteth of his owne image and likeness of his own NB. substance of his own Spirit and pure life Declaâ— against Popery queree 2. Whether do you waite and believe to have the same minde which was also in Christ Iesus who thought it no robbery to be equal with God yet he was no Pharisee though of the Pharisees judged a blasphemer and as be is so are we Is not this plaine enough 4. Hence also is it sayes he further that because we say that the inward light and Law and not the outward letter is that which can truely discover to them their state and bring them out of all evil they say that we vilify the Scriptures and honour our own imaginations more then them Answ. We would rather say upon this account that they vilifie the Spirit of God then the Scriptures for hereby these expressions it is manifest that they ascribe that unto the light within which only the Spirit of God and of Christ can do viz. truely and effectually which may be imported by his revera discover the state of a sinner to him and bring him out of all evil This last we do not ascribe unto the Scriptures But as to their vilifying of the Scriptures we have heard enough above from this mans own mouth and some others whose words we cited Mr Faldo in his book against the Quakers part 1. Ch. 3-12 helpeth me to much more Let us cull out of a great heap a few instances 1. Do not all the Quakers deny the Scriptures to be the word of God Do they not say that it is blasphemy to say the letter is the word of God and it is the Devil that contends for the Scriptures to be the word of God And what can more be spoken to the disparagment of the Scriptures than to deny them to be his word or the signification of his minde who spoke them and did indite them by his Spirit immediatly inspiring the Prophets and Apostles and other holy men of God in the writing of them Is not this directly to devest them of all that Authority which they have from God as his Law Is not this to render them contemptible when they are denied to be that which only maketh them have weight with consciences 2. Do not the Quakers deny the Scriptures to be the rule of faith and manners and the judge of Controversies in the maters of Religion We remember what himself aid above Hear Parnel in his shield of the truth p. 10. And he also that saith the letter is the rule and guide of the people of God is without feeding upon the husk and is ignorant of the true light which was before the letter was Hear Smith Prim. p. 10 And if thou lookest upon the Scripture to be for a rule and for trying thou givest that unto them which belongs unto Christ. And is not this enough to disparage the Scriptures to deny that chiefe use and end of them for which they were given If any should say of the Lawes of any Land and of the acts of Parliament that they are not a rule to the Subjects would not that be accounted a disparagment done to the Lawes Were not the Scripturâ—s given as a revelation of the minde of God concerning our faith and concerning our walk How can any thâ—n dâ—ny these ends and not disparage and vilifie the Scriptures 3 Do not the Quakers speak more highly of their owne writings than they do of the Scriptures The Scripâ—ures with them are but the letter which killeth Paper ink and writing the old and dead letter Part of it words of the Devil and of wicked men Precepts and traditions of men they have no light in them they sheir not our faces an earthly root a shadow and dangerous to feed on c. But their oâ—n writings are the voice of the Son of God by which the dead are raised a shield of the truth spoken in the freshness and quick sense of life written from the Lord a Spiritual glass opened light rise out of darkness and by revelation of Iesus Christ and by the Spirit of the living God See for this Mr Faldo ubi supra paâ— 40. c. Can men devise a way more effectual to effronte the Scriptures 4 Do they not preferre the light within them unâ—o the Scriptures See Smithâ—s Catech p. 2. Q. doth God manifest himself within Man Answ. Yes and man cannot know him by any other way but by the manifestation of himself in his light within him See the Scorned Quakers account p. 20. Christ by his light within shewes you in a gâ—ass your owne faces which the Scriptures cannot do Parnel p. 10. And by the same light do we discerne and testify against him to be in darkness and blindness and is a deceiver who putteth the letter for the light and so draweth peoples mindes from the light within them to the light without them seeking the living among the dead Iohn Story in his short discovery p. 2. saith and although the holy Scripture without and the Saints practices are lights in the world Yet far be it from all true Christian men so to idolize them as to set them in esteem above the light which is sufficient to guide or to esteem them equal with the light and Spirit of Christ within And Smith Prim. p. 12. tels us that Christ the light within alone searches the heart not the Scriptures Martin Mason in his loving invitation p. 4. 'T is not your flying to the Scriptures that can save you from the fire of his wrath nor overcome the least corruption for you no verily nothing then but a Christ within you come thou then O come with boldness to God's faithful witness within you Fisher where above p. 7. saith such were the Scribes who were ever scraping in the Scriptures to finde God and his life Yet never knew him at any time nor saw his shape because they heard not his voice nor heeded not his word within
themselves Are not these sufficient to evidence to all the world how the Quakers vilify the Scriptures of truth 5. Do they not disswade all in their writings as the cited passages evidence from reading or studying the Scriptures or from expecting any light or comfort from them Though Christ in express termes commanded to search the Scriptures Yet they perswade to the contrary And is not this a clear proof of their undervalueing of the Scriptures 6. Whereunto else tendeth that expression of Fisher's in his Velata quaedam revelato p. 4. Ye have Moses the Prophets within you but to disparage and vilify the Scriptures See also Parnel p. 11. For the Scripture is within and was read within before it was read without 7. Is it not a manifest vilifying of Scripture to say that there is no light in it Yet so faith The lip of truth opened p. 7. That light is in the Scriptures prove that or tell me what one Scripture hath light in it 8. Do not they say that whaâ— is held forth in the Scriptures is not bindeing to us Naylor love to the lost p. 16. for all the Saints have their commands in the Spirit but yours is in the letter and so another ministration We have mentioned more above Chap. IV. to this purpose and is not this sufficient to declare the Scriptures null in their esteem 9. What else doth that of Iohn Story in his discovery savour of And I. A. further saith let light without be guide to light within Reply if by this exhortation I. A. meanes that light without should try true light within which shines in the hearts of the Saints then I must needs say it is a very absurd and foolish exhortation and being spoken upon a divine account it is full of idolatry and evil 10. Do not the fore cited passages fully clear that in the Quakers judgment we canâ—ot come by the Scriptures to the knowledge of God or of Christ or of ourselves And is not that sufficient to disparage the Scriptures 11. Whâ—n Christ himself made use of the Scriptures to repel the temptations of Satan Mat. 4. Can we think the Quakers haâ—e any high esteem for the Scriptures who declare them utterly useless as to this as Martin Mason doth in his Loving Invitation p. 11 12. Can they value the Scriptures aright who desire the Lord that he would stripe us of all our knowledge of the Scripture and say that they only make us wise to oppose truth and so bring us into a state of condemnation wrath and misery beyond the heathen See Pennington's quaest p. 12. See also W. Pen's Spirit of truth p. 23. 13. Do they not undervalue the Scriptures who still set them in opposition to the Spirit And is not this the common language of the Quakers 14 If the Quakers have an high opinion of the Scriptures what meaneth all these expressions in the Morning watch Pap. 22.23 of them and of the doctrines received from them viz Traditions of men earthly root darkness and confusion Nebuchadnezzars image Putrefaction and corruption rotten and deceitful all out of the liâ—e and power of God Apostacy the whores cup the mark of the Beast Babylon the Mother of harlots Bastards brought forth of flesh and â—lood the birth that persecutes the son and heire Babylons brats and children graven images c. These sure are no expressions of great estimation 15. What shall we think of what the same Author saith p. 45. So amongst the words you finde how the Saints in some things walked and what they practised and then you strive to make something to yourselves and to observe it and do it as near as yoâ— can and here you are found transgressours of the Law of God who saith thou shalt not make to thy self any graven image nor the likeness of any thing Now what difference is there in the ground betwixt you and the Pope Hath this man the same esteem of the Scriptures that Paul had when he said Rom. 15 4. For whatsoever things were wâ—itten afore time were writen for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope 16. Do we not all know how reproachfully the Papists speak of the Scriptures And do not Quakers and they go one way here Let any look Mr Faldo's parallel in the end of Chap. 12. of his book Pag. 131. c. and judge If this be not enough to discover what enemies to and undervaluers of the Scriptures the Quakers are I know not if we can get any more out of hell See what is said above Chap. IV. § 2. 4. 12. 5. What saith he more Hâ—nce moreover because we say that their clatterings and outward faith of an external life passion and death of Christ will no more justify them in the sight of God then the Iewes crying the Temple of the Lord c. but that they must acknowledge a Christ within themselves whom they have crucified to be risen and justifying and redeeming them from all iniquity they say we deny the liâ—e suffering and death of Christ and justification by his blood and remission of sinnes through him Answ. What meaneth he by that ill favoured word clatterings garritiunculae It hath no sound in latâ—ne and no good sound in Engâ—ish in this mater And what meaneth he by an external faith And what meaneâ—h he by an external faith of an external life and death of Christ These expressions are very quakerish that is unsavoury salt of non-sense But when he layeth all the weight of justification and redemption on a thing which they call Christ within every man formerly crucified but now risen is not that as much as if they denied all that Christ did for our Redemption and Justification an Pardon through his righteousness and blood What this man hath said of these things we have seen and examined and because he would fame wipe off this Aspersion from his fraternity let us see what they say in this mater Mr Faldo will help us to some others then we have seen and mentioned formerly 1. What meaneth that expression of Edâ— Burrughs Truâ—peâ— c. â— 17. All that are called Presbyterians and Independents with their seeding upon the report of a thing dead many hundered yeers ago And that of Farnworth what righteousness Christ performed without me was not my justification neither was I saved by it Is not this a plaine denial of justification through Câ—rist and hâ—s righteousness Pennington quaestions p. 2â— is clear enough Can saith he outward blood clause the conscience Can outward water wash the soul clean Parnel's Shield of truth p. 30. And this we witness who through the Lamb our Saviour do reigne above the world death hell and the Devil But none can witness this whose eye is outward looking at a Redeemer a far off Morning watch p. 21. And conclude to themselves a beliefe in Christ and apply his promises what he did for them in the body that