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church_n to_o the_o which_o the_o whole_a realm_n have_v consent_v 33._o can._n apost_n 33._o the._n 33._o canon_n of_o the_o apostle_n quote_v in_o the_o margin_n be_v this_o episcopos_fw-la singularum_fw-la gentium_fw-la scire_fw-la convenit_fw-la quis_fw-la inter_fw-la eos_fw-la primus_fw-la babeatur_fw-la quem_fw-la velut_fw-la existiment_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o behove_v the_o bishop_n of_o every_o province_n to_o know_v who_o be_v chief_a among_o they_o who_o they_o must_v esteem_v as_o their_o head_n and_o do_v nothing_o without_o his_o knowledge_n save_o such_o thing_n only_o as_o pertain_v to_o their_o own_o parish_n and_o village_n which_o be_v under_o it_o neither_o shall_v he_o do_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o all_o for_o so_o shall_v unity_n be_v keep_v and_o god_n shall_v be_v glorify_v through_o christ_n in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n what_o have_v you_o get_v by_o this_o canon_n you_o see_v here_o manifest_o that_o in_o every_o province_n or_o nation_n 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prove_v and_o we_o can_v forbid_v no_o man_n from_o the_o communion_n although_o this_o prohibition_n be_v not_o mortal_a but_o medicinable_a except_o he_o either_o willing_o confess_v it_o or_o be_v accuse_v and_o convict_v either_o in_o some_o secular_a or_o ecclesiastical_a court_n for_o who_o dare_v take_v unto_o himself_o to_o be_v both_o accuser_n and_o judge_n and_o this_o be_v my_o judgement_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n in_o excommunicate_v the_o abuse_v creep_v into_o this_o church_n in_o the_o execute_n of_o it_o i_o do_v not_o defend_v as_o it_o be_v manyfeste_a in_o my_o answer_n but_o wish_v they_o by_o due_a order_n and_o authority_n with_o speed_n reform_v chap._n 1._o the._n 19_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o lin._n 7._o and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v here_o that_o both_o in_o this_o part_n of_o the_o discipline_n and_o also_o in_o all_o other_o part_n of_o it_o as_o i_o have_v show_v as_o in_o hard_a and_o difficulter_v cause_n thing_n be_v refer_v 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2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 1_o these_o thing_n stand_v in_o this_o sort_n all_o those_o court_n of_o bishop_n and_o archbyshop_n must_v needs_o fall_v which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n erect_v against_o this_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n of_o eldership_n as_o the_o court_n of_o faculty_n and_o those_o which_o be_v hold_v by_o chancellor_n commissary_n officialls_n and_o such_o like_a the_o describe_v of_o the_o corruption_n whereof_o will_v require_v a_o whole_a book_n of_o which_o i_o will_v note_v the_o principal_a head_n and_o sum_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o not_o these_o court_v only_o but_o all_o the_o court_n in_o england_n will_v be_v devour_v up_o of_o your_o signiory_n yea_o each_o the_o prince_n regal_a authority_n as_o may_v appear_v partly_o by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o and_o partly_o by_o that_o which_o shall_v follow_v hereafter_o for_o what_o jurisdiction_n will_v not_o your_o signiory_n usurp_v what_o matter_n will_v it_o not_o presume_v to_o determine_v what_o degree_n of_o person_n will_v it_o not_o tread_v under_o foot_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o you_o say_v of_o these_o court_n chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 2._o first_o for_o that_o they_o enter_v into_o a_o office_n which_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o they_o but_o to_o every_o particular_a church_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o eldership_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o although_o they_o shall_v do_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v good_a lawful_a and_o godly_a yet_o can_v they_o not_o approve_v their_o labour_n unto_o man_n much_o less_o to_o god_n put_v their_o sickle_n in_o another_o man_n harvest_n for_o neither_o by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v that_o apperteyne_a unto_o they_o neither_o by_o m._n doctor_n own_o judgement_n if_o his_o yea_o were_z yea_o and_o his_o nay_o nay_o consider_v that_o he_o say_v before_o that_o this_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o the_o 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