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A02136 Morando the tritameron of loue wherein certaine pleasaunt conceites, vttered by diuers woorthy personages, are perfectly dyscoursed, and three doubtfull questyons of loue, most pithely and pleasauntly discussed: shewing to the wyse howe to vse loue, and to the fonde, howe to eschew lust: and yeelding to all both pleasure and profitt. By Robert Greene, Maister of Artes in Cambridge.; Morando the tritameron of love. Part 1 Greene, Robert, 1558?-1592. 1584 (1584) STC 12276; ESTC S105814 28,889 48

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beyng readie to take of all and being able to giue to no●…e Was it the pelfe of Demophon or his person that Phillis so depely desired was it the riches of Paris that AEnone wished or his beautie when she knewe him for no other but a poore Shepheard Was it the wealth of Vlisses or his wisdome that Circes sought after when she sawe him to be but a wanoring Pirate Did not Campaspe prefer pore Appelles before mightie Alexander and that louelie Lady Euphinia choose Acharisto her Fathers bondman Tushe who seeth not if he be not either sencelesse or sotted with self-will that wemen respect goodwill and not gaine curtesie and not coyne yea loue onely and not landes or ●…ynges And sir wheras you bryng in Danaae as an instaunce to proue wemens couetous desire if you wrest not the sence it is small to the purpose for Jupiter chaunged not into gelde to obtaine her chastitie but to corrupte her kepers that so he might make a rape of her virginitie neither was Tarpeyae perswaded to loue for golde but to betraie the Capitall for gaine And though Eriphile did amisse aud Procris offende will these two examples infer a generall conclusion No for as one Swallowe maketh not sommer nor as one withered tree proueth not winter so one womans offence is not sufficient to proue all faultie Your rash reasons therefore are like Tantalus Apples which are fayre to the eye but beeing touched they turne to Ashes Or like Apelles grapes that seemed to be such till they were narrowly viewed So your subtill arguments importe greate force till they bee sifted and then they are like Cornelius shadowes which seemed like men but were none Retyre therefore before you come at the trench sith you haue followed the sound of a wrong March for it is proper to a man to bee deceiued but to percist in an errour is the signe of an impudent mind and vpon this conditiō although you haue broadly blasphemed against womē you shall escape vnpunished and fully pardoned Morando heryng how connyngly Lacena had resisted Peratios reasons began to be halfe blancke because Panthia pulling him by the sleeue saied Sir quoth she although my daughter hath concluded in an imparfect Moode yet it is harde to reduce it but Per impossible your Champion is chafed and seeketh reuenge but he plaies like Phineus that sought to meete his foe in the ●…elde and yet he himself tooke the first foile but as it is no shame for hym that gazeth against the Sonne to winke so Peratio that striues against the truthe maie take the mate and yet haue good skill at the Chesse Why quoth Aretino is he alwaies the best man that giues the last stroke or she wonne the victoier that speakes the last woorde Peratio hath but yet plaide his quarters he now meanes to lie at his warde and I beleue so warelie that Lacena shal haue good lucke if she scape without a losse Tush gentlemen quoth Peratio Madam Panthia thinckes that where Venus sitts there Mars must lay downe his Helmet that no Birdes can sing where the Peacocke displaies her golden Feathers but I am not so fonde as with Hercules to become a slaue to Omphale nor with Mars to tye my self to Venus will Lacenas faire lookes nor her painted speech shall not so charme me as I shall so lightly geue other the chalenge for I am not in loue and therefore may speake at liberty Truely quoth Morando sith the controuersie is suche as it cannot without a longe discourse be decided I will at this tyme become a mediator and yeld my verdit because time calles vs away Upon this sentence this therfore is my sensure that as Phillip of Macedon said there was no Citie so surelie defenced whereinto an Asse laden with gold might not enter so the Temple of Vesta is neuer so well shut but a key of gold will spedelie vnlose the locke Sir quoth Panthia and I by your leaue will conclude to your premisses with the picture which Phidias the Painter drew of Mars and Uenus in this forme representing Mars tied vnto Uenus by the eye his breast open wherein appered a harte all of gold But Venus hauyng her sight valed her harte persed through with an arrow and chained vnto Mars with a siluer threed wherein was written this posie Sans Aultre Well quoth Morando it was harde to finde Diana without her bowe or Appollo without his harpe or a womans craftie witte without a clarklie shift But when Hercules had conquered Orithia he could not vauut of the victorie because she was a woman so therefore I wil not striue to confute Madame Panthia sith in gettyng the conquest I should rather reape discredit then purchase praise or honour we will therefore now ende our discourse and sit doune to supper where whatsoeuer your chere bee yet I praie you thynke your selues hartie welcome The Gentlemen and Gentlewemen findyng their fare no woorse then their welcome was gaue Morando greate thankes for his curtesie and being all pleasantlie disposed they passed awaie the supper with many pretty parlees Don Siluestro onely excepted who was in his dumps for the beautie of Lacena had alredie so battered the bulwarke of his breast and had so quatted his stomacke with her excellent qualities that he onely fed his eyes in notyng the exquisit perfection of her person whiche Aretino partlie perceiuyng he began to plucke him from his passions in this maner I haue often marueled and cannot yet cease to muse gentlemen quoth he at the madnesse of those momentarie louers whose myndes are like the state of Mineruas Owle that howe heauie socuer her heade was would euer prune her self at the sight of Pallas or like Narcissus that had scarsely lookt into the water but was in loue with his owne shaddowe but I thinke these violent passions are nothing permanent their sparckling heate neuer proues to perfect coles muche like to Jasons Warriours th●…t faded before thei were fullie fourmed What moues you quoth Morando to pop forth so sodainly this darke probleme doe you think there is any man here that is pinched with suche passions or would you see by the measure of an other mans foote where you owne shoe wringes you No sir quoth he the picture of Andromeda and Perseus whiche hanges here before myne eyes brought this to my remembraunce for me thinke either Andromeda was passyng beautifull or Perseus verie amorous that soaring aloft in the ayre he did firmely loue before he did fultie looke his eyes were scarsely fixed ere his harte was fet●…red and how thinke you Signior Siluestro is not this straunge Siluestro doubtyng that Aretino shot at an other marke then his talke did pretende thought to shadow his falt with a false culler and with the Lapwing to crie farthest of from her nest he framed him therefore this aunswere Truely Aretino quoth he it were folie to question with Pigmalio●… about Esculapius secrets or to demande of Polydemon wha●… sollemnitie Hymeneus obserued
fallen out the Nimphes had neuer gotten their Cornucopia Had not Circes and Vlisses iarred his men had neuer returned to their sh●…pes Tis an ill flaw that bringeth vp no wracke and a bad winde that breedeth no mans profite Had not Syluestro and Peratio fallen out about loue wee had neuer brought it in question whether it be good to loue or no. But now wee will haue it tried out in the plaine fielde to see the euent of the battaile For truely I am of Siluestros opinion that to liue without loue is not to liue at all Sostrata who from her birth was vowed vnto Vesta and offred her Sacrifice at the Shrine of Diana hearing Morando take Siluestros pa●…te with blushing face made this maidenly aunswere Sir quoth she although I maie seeme impudent in my mothers presence to enterparle and maie bee thought halfe inmodest without commaund to come to counsell yet I hope the equitie of the cause and the necessitie of the defence will excuse me to the one and cleare me from the other To haue fonde loue honoured as a God were grosse Idolatrie to consent to suche Scisinaticall opinions were palpable Heresie therfore if it please my mother to giue me leaue I wil proue that the worst course of life is to loue Daughter quoth Panthia if you thinke your self strong enough to withstand so stou●…e an Heresie my good will shall be quickly graunted but take heede least in ventring in an vnknowne Foorde you slippe ouer the shooes T●…she quoth Peratio it was easie for Achilles to conquer Hector when he himself by the meanes of Thetis was inuulnerable and as easilie may Sostrata withstand Siluestro 〈◊〉 she is armed with the truth which maie well be assalted but neuer vtterly sacked Your good worde quoth Siluestro is neuer wanting but if Sostrata would be ruled by mine aduise she should not yeld her verdict against Venus but for my parte let her doe as she please for I am sure prattle she may but preuaile she cannot Sostrata hearing the shorte censure of Siluestro began to defende the walles with this Rampire Ouid quoth she the Maister of this Arte who busily bet his braine about setting downe of amorous principles being demaunded what Loue was aunswered that it was suche a vaine and inconstant thing suche a fickle and fonde affectionate passion that he knewe not what it was from whence it came nor to what ende it tended Onely this he was assured of by experience that to the vnhappie it was a hell and to the most fortunate at the least the losse of freedome Anacreon said that it was the forgetting of a mans self whereby his sences are so besotted and his wittes inueagled he is so suared with vanitie and so fettered with follie as he greedelie seeketh to gaine that thing whiche at last turneth to his extreme losse For who so yeeldeth himself as a flaue to loue bindeth himself in fetters of golde and if his sute haue good successe yet he leadeth his life in glistring miserie For loue according to the definition of the Philosophers is nothing els but the desire of Beautie so that the beginning middest and ende of loue is to croppe the bitter sweete bud of Beautie which how pleasaunt so euer it be in the mouth yet so perilous in the maw that he neuer or seldome digesteth it without daunger both of his purse and person Beautie the onely ●…ewell whiche Louers desire to enioye although you maie obiect against me that it is a foule birde defiles their owne neast yet conscience cōstraines me to auer the tr●…th is like to the Baaran flower which is most pleasaunt to the eye but who so toucheth it feeleth present sinarte None euer rid on Seianus horse but he came to ruine Who so possessed but one dramme of the golde of Tholossa perished He that with vnwasht handes touched the Aultar of Ianus fell downe presently dead and fewe or none whiche onely fixe their fancie vpon Beautie escape without mishappe or miserie so that I conclude the Louer in liew of his toyle getteth suche gaine as he that reapeth the beautifull Apples of Tantalus which are no soner toucht but they turne to Ashes If this trash thē be the treasure whiche Louers desire so greedily to gaine no doubt their winninges shall be muche like to his which supposing to embrace Iuno caught nothyng but a vaine vanishyng Cloude This considered he hath either his sences besotted or els is blinded with selfwill whiche seeth not the abuses in Loue and follie of Louers whose life is so pestered with continuall passions and combred with suche haplesse cares as it is to be counted nothyng but a very masse of miserie They spende the daie in dumpes and the night in dollor seeking much and finding little gaping after that which they seldome gaine and which if they get proueth at length but losse Tis true in trothe quoth Peratio for of all follies loue is the greatest fondnesse and especially in those whiche are coumpted truest Louers who if they want of their will and misse of their wishe pine awaie in hellishe pennurie and though their mistres rewarde them with hate yet they neuer make an ende of their loue but by death Such loue in my opinion no wise man either will or can commende for if to loue were good as is now in question yet tis a proued principle Omne nimium vertitur in vitium therefore if euer I loue I will keepe a meane neither to hie least I suspecte with Cephalus nor to lowe least I mislike with Minos and especially I would not exceede for I thinke of Louers as Diogenes did of Dauncers who beyng asked how he liked them answered the better the woorse This pleasant conceipt of Peratio made Morando and all the companie to laugh seeyng how bitterly he began to bob Siluestro on the thumbes who throughly chafed burst foorth into these tearmes Peratio ꝙ he you come to counsell before you bee calde and set downe your sentence before any manne craues your censure your verdit is of lesse valure Your slender opinion is not to be taken for a principle and therefore learne thus much of me that so apishly to carpe at euery cause is a signe of greate immodestie and small manners but leauyng you to your follie thus much to the purpose The Philosophers who haue sought precisely to set out the perfect Anotomie of pure loue who set downe by pen that whiche before they tried by experience weighyng wisely the straunge affectes and force of loue and feeling in them selues the puissance of his power iustly cannonised that sacred essence for a God attributing vnto it the ●…itle of dietie as a thyng woorthie of such supernaturall dygnitie For it doeth infuse into the mindes of men suche vertuous and valerous motions kindlyng in mens hartes such gowing coales of naturall affection whiche before the force of loue had touched them lay buried in the deade cindres of hate that it doeth knitt the mindes
compare men to Spanielles that will faune of euery one that carieth bread in his fist Stay there quoth Morando it is now dinner time and this question asketh along discourse we will now dine and the rest of the daie to exercise our selues wee will spende in Hunting but to morowe we will haue this doubt debated of Aretino and Fioretta I will be the plaintif quoth Aretino And my Daughter shall bee the defendant quoth Panthia Why then quoth Morando let vs plie our teeth as we haue done our tungs and with that they all sat doune to dinner The third daies discourse PAnthia and the rest of the companie hauing pleasauntly past awaie the day in sporte and quietly spent the night in sleepe no sooner sawe that Aurora had forsaken the watrie bed of her Louer Tytan but thei remembring that Aretino and Fioretta were to perfourme their chalenge hasted vp to bee hear●…rs of this doubtfull discourse But seeing Morando was not yet stirring they walked into the Garden to take the freshe and flagrant ayre where Flora presented vnto them a Paradise of odoriferous flowers greatly pleasing the eye sweetly delighting the sinell intised with the verdue of these flowrishing Plantes they all rested them in an Arbor made of Roses whereby Peratio taking occasion to be pleasaunt entered into this parlie I now quoth he see by experience Mantuans principle to be true that weale is neuer without woae no blisse without bale eche sweete hath his sower euery commoditie hath his discommoditie annexed For you see by proofe the sweetest Rose hath his prickles And what of this quoth Panthia what inferre ye of these principles Mary quoth he I can aptly compare a woman to a Rose for as we cannot enioye the flagrant smel of the one without sharpe prickles so we cannot possesse the vertues of the other without shrewish conditions and yet neither the one nor the other can well be forborne for they are necessarie 〈◊〉 O sir quoth Panthia you are very pleasaunt poore wemen must be content to suffer the reproofe though 〈◊〉 the reproach but if they were as little vertuous as men are greatly vicious no doubt then you would write volumes of their vanitie but quoth she as bad as they be when you sue to obtaine their fauour then you accoumpt them as heauenly creatures and cannonize them for Sainctes commending their chastitie and extolling their vertues whereof I conclude that either they are faultlesse or you flatterers Tushe quoth Peratio what others thinke I knowe not but I was neuer of that minde for truely this is my verdict be she vert●…ous be she chast be she courteous be she constant be she riche be she renowmed be she honest be she honorable yet if she bee a woman she hath sufficicent vanities to counteruaile her vertues Truely quoth Siluestro as the Inhabitaunts of Lemnos were turned into Frogges for railing against Latona so Peratio thou deseruest to be chaunged into a Curre for barking out suche currishe blasphemous speeches against wemen Niobe inueighed against Uenus for her lightnesse and yet she her self more leaude and thou railest against wemen for their vanitie thou thy self being thrise more vicious but as it was impossible to tell a tale to a Cretian and not to talke to a lyar so it is impossible Peratio to speake of thee and not to name a slaunderer With that Morando being newly risen and missing his guestes went into the Garden and hearing these bitter blawes thought quickly to part the fraie he seuered them therefore with this salue Gentlemen and Gentlewomen quoth he in that I will not be tedious in one worde I bid you all good daie The atchiuing of yesterdaies chalenge betwene Aretino and Fioretta hath made me rise thus early Cease of therefore from your supposes for I inioyne you all to Silence and let vs heare what a plea our plaintife will put in to auer his doubtfull Probleme The companie first requiting Morando with the like courtesie and then returning his salue with the like salutation held their peace to heare Aretino parle who seing they listened attentiuely to heare his talke began his tale in this maner It is a principle quoth he amongst the naturall Philosophers that men by their constitution are indewed with a more perfect and stronger complexion then wemen beeing more apt to endewer labour and trauaile and lesse subiect to effeminate pleasure and pastime hauing their hartes more hardened to withstande any kinde of passion and lesse mollified to receiue any patheticall impression Whereof I infer that men hauing their hartes indurate by naturall constitution are more able to withstande the force of Loue then wemen whose effeminate mindes are inclosed within a more tender and delicate complexion For as the perfect Golde whiche is of a pure substaunce receiueth any fourme sooner then the sturdi●… Steele which is of a grosse massie moulde so wemens effeminate mindes are more subiect to sodaine affection and are soner fettered with the snare of fancie then the hard hartes of men whiche beein●… rubbed with the Adamant stone are apt to withstand any violēt passions Tiresias who had by his harde happe the proofe of both Natures and Scython who at his pleasure was either a man or a woman the one being demanded by Jupiter and the other by Bachus whether men or wemen were most subiect vnto loue framed this answere that the Armes which Venus gaue in her shield were sufficient to discusse the doubt meaning that as Doues who are Uenus darlinges are more prone vnto lust then any other foules so wemen are more subiect vnto Loue then any other mortall creatures Truely sir quoth Fioretta you seeme by your sentences to be a subtill and secret Philosopher for I thinke you bring in suche darke problemes as you scarce vnderstande your owne reasons Is this your skill in naturall Philosophie to bring in vnnaturall principles Or think you by Sophistrie to shadowe the truth No wordes are but winde and a fewe drie blowes shall not carie awaie the conquest Aristotle and Albertus both set downe this infallible Axiome that the naturall constitution of men is choller hot and drie hauing of all the fower Elements fire most predominant in their complexions So that as Galen affirmeth in his Booke De partibus corporis humani this fierie constitution doth make them full of passions soone hot soone colde easilie inflamed and quickly quenched Whereas wemen be Phlegmatick coole and moyst hauing water most predominant in their constitution a●…d therefore lesse subiect vnto any fierie affections Whereof I inferre that the mindes of men whiche are hot and drie are sooner scorched with the heate of Venus and fiered with the flame of fancie yea Loue hath more power to set on fire their affections being alreadie of a hot constitution then to scorch or scalde the hartes of wemen which naturally are of so moyst and cold a complexion The drie Bauin is soner set on fire then the watrie Beech the withered