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A77397 Anabaptism, the true fountaine of Independency, Brownisme, [double brace] Antinomy, Familisme, and the most of the other errours, which for the time doe trouble the Church of England, unsealed. Also the questions of pædobaptisme and dipping handled from Scripture. In a second part of the Disswasive from the errors of the time. / By Robert Baillie minister at Glasgow. Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662.; Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. Dissuasive from the errours of the time. 1647 (1647) Wing B452A; Thomason E369_9; ESTC R38567 187,930 235

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life SSSSSS M. Bourn to the Reader I shall in the Treatise following lay open to the view of all men not at the second hand but by experience having often heard them both preach and dispute what is that which commonly goes under the name of Familisme what I shall say concerning it is not out of malice to any person neither shall I speak at randome TTTTTT Gangren first Part second division p. 27. There is one Clement Wrighter in London an Arch-heretick and fearfull Apostate sometimes a professor of Religion and judged to have been godly about seven or eight years ago he fell off from the communion of our Churches to Independency and Brownism from that he fell to Anabaptism and Arminianism thence to Mortalism holding the soul mortall after that he fell to be a Seeker and is now an Antiscripturist a Questionist and Skeptick and I fear an Atheist CHAP. V. The lawfulnesse of Infants Baptisme I Have at some length in the preceding Chapters set down the way and Tenets of the Anabaptists both here and over Sea The extreame malignity of the Anabaptistick spirit both of the present the former times wherby it may appear to all who are willing to see how malign a spirit has ruled in that Sect from its first beginning to this very day a spirit carrying to the greatest errours and the grossest vices that ever any who were called Christians have stumbled upon a spirit as much opposite to the honour of God and to the salvation of men It s enmity to the salvation of men as any that ever troubled the Church since its first foundation It s favour towards the salvation of man appears in its great zeal to cast out of the Church and deprive of the means of grace almost all mankinde with the exception of a very few if of any at all When the most reformed of the Protestant Churches come before the fan of their censure at the first shake they blow away that largest and most innocent part of them their infants all children who have not attained to the acts of faith and repentance are to them in the flesh under the power within the verge of the Kingdom of Satan as well as Jews Turks Pagans and others who are not so much as entred within the hedge of Christs sheepfold and lest the spoiling of children of all the grace and gifts of God had not been a sufficient vastation they are carried on by the spirit that leads them to make as great havock and desolation among those of riper years they Unchurch the most of those whom otherwise they love as their best friends they charge all the Independents and the Brownists and the most rigid of the Separatists for their baptizing of infants with no lighter a burthen then Antichristianism and a clear deniall of Christs Incarnation Neither here does their rashnesse stand the small remnant of Christians the Anabaptistick Societies which alone they will honour with the title of true Churches seem to them too many to be saved therefore new separations are run into and those so severe that there lives not an Anabaptist upon earth who by multitudes even of Anabaptists is not condemned with all who adhere to his subdivision as a man in a false way not only without but in opposition to the true Church In its di honoring of God be setting up a liberty first for all errours This their extream cruelty against the souls of men wont to be coloured with the shew of zeal to the truth and honour of God but this varnish is now almost quite wiped off Behold whither their zeal to the truth and honour of God is now evanished They for some times were so eminently zealous against errors and vices that very small ones were wont to draw from them an ejection out of the Church a deliverance to Satan and where the Civill Sword was in their hand a putting out of this life a publick execution by the hand of the Hangman when their Princes and Prophets were not at leisure to administer Justice in their own persons Notwithstanding the loudest note that this day sounds in their song is liberty and freedom from all punishments for what ever crimes when all abominations imaginable are publickly proclaimed when many more and much viler errours walk in our streets then ever any one place in any time did hear of the great zeal of these religious men breaks out daily in all the discourses they please and actions they dare for the safeguard of the cursed instruments of these errours passionately denying all power in any on earth to restrain in the least measure the open propagation of the most abominable lies which Satan is able to utter by the tongue of any creature no matter of Religion say they can fall under the cognisance of any State the false Church has no right to censures or any Church Ordinance the truest Churches can meddle but with their own members they who never were of them or have renounced membership with them are without their Jurisdiction so neither State nor Church can put any barre of the smallest censure upon the propagation of any errour And next for all vice And lest vice the neer kinsman of errour should finde any harder measure any greater stop from the hand of superiour powers this Sect with all the speed it can is posting back to its first principles the overthrow of the civill State as much as of the Church That when ever they are found in the practise of their Doctrine of the lawfulnesse of adultery and incest robbery and murder there may be none upon earth to controll them For this end they cast down the King and Parliament Commons as well as Lords all Incorporations all Judicatories in Burgh and Land that an absolute Monarchy a full liberty for every man to do all his pleasure without any fear of punishment may be set up That the Crown and Scepter the Kingship and absolute Soveraignty may at last be restored to the onely true owners the free-born people of England the individuals as they love to speak of the whole Nation All this much more have they set under their own hands as may be seen in the former Chapters Their Brownistick and Arminian Tenets I have refuted in other Treatises I have neither time nor minde to dispute all their positions in my little Antidote against Arminianism I have in a short and popular way impugned it their Tenets against the Protestant Churches in the heads of election redemption grace free-will and perseverance In the first Part of my Disswasive I have debated at length enough the chief of those errours which they have taught their children the Separatists The reall holinesse of all Church members the necessity of separation for want of satisfaction in this point alone the power of every member of the Church to preach the word to ordain and to excommunicate when there is cause their very Pastors
been to this houre so silent as to give no glory to God nor any assistance at all to the setling of the State and Church though it be clear as the noon-day that the ways of their party did really tend to the corrupting and enslaving both of State and Church that the Parliaments of both Kingdomes were put to an absolute necessity of defence against their force to preserve their own and the posterities necks from an iron yoak both of Ecclesiastick and Civill bondage that the continuance of this war has brought the Kingdomes oft to the border and the King this day to the very doors of ruine that the Church is overflowed with a floud of evils all which by their timous and cordiall conjunction with their brethren might ●●ppily in some good measure have been prevented Shall Episcopacy and a read Service be so necessary in a Church that rather then England should joyn with all the rest of the reformed to lay them aside the King the Parliament the State of the Kingdomes and Churches of the whole Isle must perish for any help that any of them will make with the least of their fingers Posterity cannot take well at their hands so pervicacious an obstinacy Suppose so many provocations and scandals cast in their way by the hand of others as may be yet for men of parts and fame to be touched with no compassion towards the Churches of God and their deare Countrey but to adhere so stifly to these things w th the best of their friends in all other Protestant Churches did esteem ever to be but needlesse and changeable and which now the better part of the whole Isle doth beleeve to be dangerous corruptions and necessary to be removed for them to be so wedded to those toys that rather then they will advise to lay them aside they can be content to behold the whole royall Family both the Houses of Parliament the City the Countrey and all to be destroyed such prodigious pertinacy cannot want great guiltinesse It s great folly to misprize the danger from France However that our dangers from the Malignant party doth yet continue will not be doubted when th●ir number and quality and great obstinacy yet over all England is considered In Scotland their case is not much unlike Ireland is well-near wholly their own their correspondence with the neighbour States is great their hopes from France seem to be but too well grounded If the peace of Munster come quickly to an end as the appearances are great enough France Sueden and Bavaria being sure of all their desires at the charge of the Austrians and our best friends the reformed Electors Palatine and Brandeburg what else has the French adoe with their great Armies and Navies Their peace with Spain is not so impossible as some would m●●e it they will be glad to give over their interest in Catalonia and Portugall for the fair and nearly adjoining Territories of West-Flanders In such a bargain they would make the dishonesty to be but small for the Catalans shall not be deserted when reconciled to their own King in such tearms as themselves shall like for the performance whereof France will oblige their alliance with Portugall is not so strict but a lesse bud then the half of West-Flanders will easily break it in pieces and that without much hazard to Portugall for it is easie to France to send them under-hand as many men and money and to see to their subsistence as well as when the confederacy was open and avowed It is the ridiculous blindnesse of some to contemn the posture of all the world abroad as if England were situated so far above the moon and stars that the most malign aspects of all neighbour Nations could have no influence upon it Be it so that vigoro●s and healthfull bodies are little sensible of planetary operations yet very small changes of the heavens and air are able to vex much a crazy and valetudinary person For many ages Britain has not been in so great a distemper as this day it is Antichrist may be near to swallow down the whole reformed Churches the people so broken and exhausted by a heavy war the land full of open divisions and heart-burnings the best and greatest part groaning under heavy grievances both of Church and State whereof there is little appearance of any possibility of redresse in haste the Sectaries growing in numbers and insolencies of all kinds and openly inclining to join with the Malignants rather then to misse of their hopes and very unreasonable desires Fools are blind and unable to comprehend the grounds of just fear and so they go on in their rashnesse till they be plunged in the ditch of remedilesse calamity and then onely doe they begin to complain of their former inconsideration What long has been the opinion and fear of some not unconsiderable Divines that Antichrist before his abolition shall once again overflow the whole face of the West and suppresse the whole Protestant Churches I pray God to avert If frō the Malignant hand there appear not mischief enough to hang this day over the head of the Churches of Britain The flood of Errours and Heresies like to overflow the Church let us divert a little our eye to the other side the n●w generation of Sectaries from this quarter so much smoak doth arise as alone is abundantly able to darken our skie It is long since all at least the principall Articles of Christian Religion without exception of any that I remember have been oppugned The holy Scriptures both the Godhead and Manhood of Jesus Christ the holy Ghost the Divinity it self is now exploded with high and basphemous scorn all Churches all Sacraments all publick Worship and Ordinances are made unnecessary A liberty for all Errours the great aim yea unlawfull And if any point of Religion hath had the fortune to escape the blasphemous tongues and pens of these erroneous men lest it should still go free from opposition the most of that party have n●w set up their rest upon a principle which makes them sure to gather up their gleanings when ever their leisure may serve them to make a review of their omissions A liberty to beleeve to professe to propagate in matter of Religion whatever any the most desperately erroneous soul may conceive to be truth All these are but things of the mind and matters of opinion a toleration in them is miserable and despicable but a free and absolute liberty in every such thing is the due and naturall right of every humane creature in all places of the whole earth This monstrous imagination of liberty is not only generally put in practise without any considerable control now for some years in the midst and all the corners of England but men of prime place have courage to write the justice of it under their hand to the High Court of Parliament yet without any repentance we hear of The Parliament
formally the life and subsistence of all creatures p. 103 That Christ had not a particular soul nor a particular body Creatures in their very sins are acted onely by the Spirit of God There is no such spirits as Angels Devils or Souls Nothing remains for ever but God Scripture is but a false shadow and no ground of faith They deny both the first and second comming of Christ They cast away all Ordinances The certain truth of these imputations p. 104 The English Anabaptists are generally more erroneous then the Dutch Amongst the English Secta●●es there is no zeal at all against any errour CAP. V. The lawfulnesse of Infants Baptisme THe extream malignity of the Anabaptistick spirit It s enmity to the salvation of men p. 129 Its dishonouring of God by setting up a liberty first for all errours and next for all vice p. 130 Their Brownistick and Arminian tenets I have refuted in other Treatises p. 131 Their Antipaedobaptisme and dipping shall here be briefly and plainly considered The state of the first question The first reason for the affirmative p. 132 Who have right to the chief promises have right to some of the seals which God has appointed to be a means of assurance of these promises unlesse the Lord himself hath made a speciall exception Infants have good right to the promises of the covenant of grace p. 133 The infants of the Iews had reall interest in the covenant of grace before the comming of Christ Gen. 17.12 13. Also after Christ comming under the New Testament Heb. 7.27.8.6 The infants of proselyte Gentiles under the Old Testament had right in the covenant of grace Gen. 17.12 Exod. 12.48 49. p. 135 The infants of beleeving Gentiles under the New Testament have right in the covenant of grace Rom. 11.24 How infants are holy 1 Cor. 7.14 p. 13 The second argument is from the Circumcision of Infants p. 138 It is safe to reason from Scripturall consequences yea proportions p. 139 Baptisme succeeds to Circumcision Col. 2.11 12. Circumcision did seal the covenant of grace Gen. 17.11 p. 140 The covenant of grace has been diversly administred but ever the same and never mixed p. 141 Both Circumcision and Baptisme are initiating seals p. 142 There needs not a particular comman● for application of a Sacrament to the diverse ages and sexes and conditions of persons Infants Baptisme under the Law The third argument from Matth. 28.19 p. 143 The promises of the Gospel belong to Infants p. 144 Infants are not in a worse condition under the Gospel then under the Law All who are baptized need not be capable of teaching ibid. Infants are Disciples p. 145 Infants have interest in the Trinity ibid. Infants may be lawfully baptized p. 146 The fourth argument from the baptisme of whole families ib. The fifth argument from Christ laying of his hands on infants and blessing them p. 147 The sixth argument Infants under the Law were baptized p. 149 The seventh argument Infants are partakers of remission of regeneration of life eternall p. 150 Mr Coxe Mr Tombes Mr L. Objections p. 152 They are in effect but few and all invented by the old Anabaptists ib. Mr Coxe first argument makes examples alone a full rule ib. The second makes one and the same man to differ from himself essentially p. 153 The third ties God in the revelation of his will to precepts and examples alone p. 154 It everts the principles of all reasoning and turns men into stones p. 155 The fourth makes it an heresie to make any use of any thing in the Old Testament to clear any thing in the New p. 156 The fifth argument making the actions done by or to Christ the full rule of our practise is a wilde phansie p. 157 The sixth argument will have none baptized but who beleeve and are elect p. 158 The seventh eighth and ninth arguments are but repetitions p. 160 The absurdities of every one of the nine arguments ib. M. Tombes 8. arguments answered by others there is no truth in any of them p. 161 M. L. Treatise of Baptisme needs no answer p. 162 The pressing of dipping and exploding of sprinkling is but an yesterday conceit of the English Anabaptists p. 163 Sprinkling is sufficient and dipping is not necessary in Baptisme p. 164 The first arg for the affirmative Baptisme in many Scriptures signifies sprinkling and not dipping as Mark 7.4.8 Heb. 9.10 1 Cor. 10.1 Rev. 19.13 Mat. 3.11 p. 164 The second arg The thing signified by Baptisme is oftner expressed in Scripture by sprinkling then dipping p. 167 In Scripture sprinkling is made a sign of the application of Christs bloud to the soul p. 167 Also of Christs Spirit p. 168 Sprinkling under the Law a figure of the thing signified in Baptisme ibid. Sprinkling serves as much for purging as dipping can doe p. 169 A third arg In many Scripturall Baptismes there was no dipping ib. A fourth arg Dipping is hurtfull to the life of man p. 171 Also to his chastity ib. A fifth arg Dipping makes Baptisme insupportable No Preacher will be able to baptize p. 172 Dipping brings in Se-baptisme p. 173 The first Object That the originall word Baptizing does signifie always dipping and never sprinkling removed ib. The second Object No evidence in Scripture that any were ever dipped over head and ears in Baptisme p. 175 The third Object That Baptisme is a sign of the Buriall of Christ hath no reference at all to Immersion A generall answer to the testimonies for dipping p. 178 The Authours out of which the Testimonies of the first two Chapters are taken concerning the old Anabaptists of Germany CAssandri opera last Edit fol. Bullingerus adversus Anabaptistas Historia Davidis Georgii conscripta ab ipsius genero Nicolao Blesdikio Guy de Bres contre les Anabaptistes Sleidani Commentaria Argentorati 1621. Conradi Heresbachii Historia Anabaptistica una cum notis Theodori Strackii Lamberto Hortensio Amsterodami 1637. Cloppenburgii Gangraena Anabaptistica una cum Spanhemii disputationum Anti-Anabaptisticarū prima generali Apocalypsis Haeresiarcharum All faithfully translated into English The Authors out of the which the Testimonies of the third and fourth Chapters are taken concerning the modern Anabaptists of England THe Confession of the seven Churches the first Edition also the second with additions and alterations dedicated to the Parliament The Declaration of the publick dispute by M. Coxe M. Hobson c. M. Tombes Exercitation Also his Apology M. Richardson against D. Featley M. Blackwoods storming of Antichrist M. Spilberries Saints priviledge William Kiffin his answer in Ricrafts Looking-glasse for the Anabaptists M. Cornwels Vindication The Treatise of Baptisme The Vnity of childish Baptisme John the Baptist Divers Treatises of M. Saltmarsh The Compassionate Sam●ritan● Divers Treatises set out with great confidence and passion for a lib●rty to all Sects especially the Anaba●tists Such as Liberty of Conscience Toleration justified Englands Birth-right Conscience c●utioned Innocency and truth justified The just mans justification A Pearl in a Dunghill A Letter to a friend The just man in bonds An Alarum to the House of Lords The Remonstrance of many thousands to their own House of Commons The last warning Iohn Goodwins Theomachia M. Williams Bloudy Tenet Little Non-such M●ns Mortality Divine Light Also the Treatises of some gracious and learned Divines that have ●pposed those ways Su●h as M. Marshals Sermon ●nd def●nce M. Gattakers ans to M. Saltm●rsh M. Blacks birth priviledg● ●n●●nswer to M. Tombes A discovery of Familism Benjamin Burns description and confutation of Familism● Especially M. Edwards Gangrena first and second part To which ●s yet I have seen nothing replyed to ●ny thing that is considerable though many with great passion have essay d c. FINIS