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A29611 Sr St. John Brodrick's vindication of himself from the aspersions cast on him in a pamphlet written by Sir Rich. Buckley entituled, The proposal for sending back the nobility and gentry of Ireland, together with a vindication of the same Brodrick, St. John, Sir, 1658 or 9-1707. 1690 (1690) Wing B4837; ESTC R11314 13,353 34

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Debts which must encrease daily but have always some of those who lie under the same Calamity upon me Whose wants being more pressing than my own I will not I cannot deny their sharing my Bread with me while I have any to put into my own head I am charged with the Cheating the young Men as Sir R is pleased familiarly to call them and the hindring the payment of the 15000 l. I will account to the young Men for the first and the Gentry of Ireland for the second And not trouble the Reader with a Justification as to them who are so far from accusing me that they know I want no Defence But however for fear of injuring my lesser Proposal by grasping at the Power of a General I will tell the Reader all that ever I heard or know concerning the matter of Cadets And 't is this At the time that I delivered my Proposals to my Lord President in which I offered in the name of several Gentlemen of Munster to accept of the Foot-service rather than be unemployed I mentioned to his Lordship That if His Majesty seemed enclined to entertain the Proposal but should make it his choice that the Regiment should be Foot He would give me leave to desire in order to the carrying over most of the Munster Men together where there were so many Gentlemen of very good Quality all of whom could not be Officers and some would be unwilling to carry Muskets That there might be a few added to each Company with double Pay which for One hundred would have amounted but to Twenty-five Shillings a day at the Pay we were to serve for who as the Cadets in France might be ready to fill up any Vacancies by the loss of Officers in the same Regiment That I would endeavour to procure this and I hoped it would be granted if the Proposal were accepted was the utmost that I ever promised on this occasion And for the truth of this I refer my self to those Gentlemen not to mention the sencelesness of my promising there should be Cadets when I could pretend to no assurance of having a Regiment I never said that I had a better Pretence to a Regiment than others of Ireland here But if I had not thought that I might probably have been capable of doing Their Majesties Service with it I should not in the Sixty-fourth Year of my Age when the Reports of the Posture of Affairs in Ireland were very unpromising have offered my self to a Winter-Campaign and upon Terms so much more easie than others serve for 'T would be an Objection indeed to be beaten by a Clergy-man if true not altogether upon the Account of the Cowardice of it for I think I need not mind the Reader that a worthy Gentleman of that Character has very lately given such proofs that Courage is not peculiar to the Laity as may make it neither a Reproach or matter of wonder to be out-done in Soldiery by one of that Coat but that I should have done any thing to deserve it Sir R. B. is no Clergy-man so I am sure 't was none of he that did or will 〈◊〉 undertake it However the matter of fact being absolutely false I must desire Sir R. to take the Scurrilous that goes before it to himself But now I come to a very considerable Objection My being a Justice of the Peace and Deputy-Lieutenant in the time of King James the Second nay at the time of His present Majesty's Arrival at Windsor Of which I will give the following short Account referring the Reader to the Letter from his Grace the Duke of Norfolk printed at the end of this Paper for further satisfaction During the life of my Brother Sir Alan Brodrick my Name was inserted in the Commission of the Peace but I never would act we both living in the same Town so that there was no need of it and thereupon my Name was for some time omitted He dying some years before the Death of the late King Charles the Second upon the Application of all the Gentlemen then upon the Bench without my Privity I was not onely put again into Commission but the Oath of a Justice was tendred me before I knew of my being so So I continued with Company that I am very proud of till the time that the Questions went about Immediately after which I with that Company was left out My Answers to those Questions will justifie me That I neither was a Tool to serve a Turn in those times nor courted my Interest to the Prostitution of my Conscience To have made a general Answer of No Toleration had been easily passed over and such an one as would have humoured the Interest then carrying on by making the Repeal of All Penal Laws the common concern of All Dissenters But at that time to distinguish between the Protestant and Popish ones as I did to say That I should endeavour the Allowance of Ease to the former which I thought the doing to the other would be inconsistent with the Safety of the Government will I believe with unprejudiced Men clear me so much from the imputation of a Knavish Compliance that I rather fear it will be censured as a Fool-hardiness and a needless provoking a Prince whose Resentments were known to run very high Especially in me whose Concerns in Ireland subjected me to more sensible effects of his Displeasure than others who had the good Fortune to have their Lots fall in England From that time till the dreadful News of His Majesty's Expedition I was out of Commission then when Mis-managements were publickly acknowledged and all things promised to be restored to their former state Orders were given for renewing all Commissions and restoring the Gentlemen lately put out which was done accordingly and I amongst them Yet even then at a Meeting of those Gentlemen long before His Majesty landed we unanimously agreed not to act while one Man whose compliance with the Questions had qualified him for the New Commission or who had asserted or acted under the Dispensing Power was left in the Commission Affairs of greater importance it seems took up their time so that the Commission was not altered nor did one of us act This is the true state of this matter and I defie the Malice of the worst of Mankind to charge me in the whole time of my being employed with one dishonest Action or the doing any thing unbefitting a Gentleman And now I will leave the Reader to judge between Sir R. B. and me as to this part There is nothing else positively affirmed of me but that I had no Plantations in Ireland to lose which I would not have taken Notice of but to let the Reader see that one word of truth is not to be expected from him with relation to me How positive soever he is in it 't is a thing which he could no ways know for I dare say he will never pretend to have been upon
the place But I can produce as many Witnesses as ever have seen that part of the Kingdom that there is not in the whole Province of Munster a better planted and improv'd Estate than mine Besides the visible ones I will tell Sir R. B. that I made other Improvements of it that were really valuable 'T was let out to English Tenants near thirty Years since upon such Terms that they all thrived and most of them lived much better than I can at present 'T was a Condition of their Leases of which I have the Counterparts to produce not to let in a Papist amongst them as Assignee of any part of their Lands which was lately made an Accusation against me and resented as a great Fault And they were bound at all times when the Crown of England required it to attend me or my Heirs in person with serviceable Horse Arms and Furniture and I hope there are many of them yet in Ireland that may be soon put into a Condition to perform this last part of their Covenant when they have an opportunity of doing it Which may be easily believ'd it being notoriously known that my Son in the Year 1680 when the Militia of the County of Cork was raised did Petition the Government to have leave to raise an entire Troop of Horse to be made up out of his and my Tenants onely which he undertook should be the best Militia Troop in the whole County I come now to the comparison he makes between us I know no-body else in the World that would do it and therefore will leave him to make the most of it Only where he talks of his Estate being setled for Four Generations last past in his Family and that I had no Plantations to lose least he should insinuate something further then that my Estate there is new purchased which I agree I beg the Reader 's Excuse for my Vanity I confess 't is a Folly yet I cann't forbear it when I tell him that my Father left an Estate of double the Value that ever Sir B's was at the highest purchase And that he derived his Title to a good Real Estate enjoyed by his Ancestors for twenty Lineal Discents from the time of King William the Second at which time his Ancestors came out of France of the same Quality that Sir R. B. now is unless his Title be Barronet which I think not worth my while to inform my self certainly in But what does Sir R. B. mean by these words I got none of my Estate by Perjuring myself or other Men nor by any other indirect course I thank God No Reader can judge that they carry less in them than an hint that I did What can I or any Man in the World say to so villanous yet so general an Accusation 'T will be of no use that all the Nobility and Gentry of Ireland Clergy and Laity will declare that they never heard so much as a surmise of a thing of that nature That they know me too well not to be sure that it is impossible to be true 'T will do me no Service to vouch Sir Richard Reynel and Sir John Temple now in London or near it who were my Councel in every Cause that ever I had relating to my Estate and by whose Advice I was governed in all that I did in it who will bear me witness that my constant Instructions to them were to quit all pretences to every thing which good Conscience would not give me as well as Law What can be done then in such a Case I will onely say that whenever Sir R. B. or any body else makes the least ground for such an Imputation upon me to appear I do hereby undertake to prove That he murdered his Father is a Rebel and Traytor I do expect a Vindication and Satisfaction from him in this particular especially as publick as the Affront is and till he has done me right either justified the Words or given me an opportunity of taking satisfaction for them by quitting his place of Refuge I may I think reasonably expect that no Gentleman will see him without spitting in his Face This is a Reflection beyond all bearing a private Stab to the Heart had been Mercy to it And to see a Published by Authority to this will hardly let a Man stop at a common degree of Raving But I will be temperate expecting that if he has abused the World by those words right will be done Me and care taken to call him to an Account for his doing so if not at least that he may be required to justifie his Charge and upon his failing to do it that the same Authority will encourage his being prosecuted as the worst of Libellers This is the hardest word I have given him the others are conditional onely And if I have made every part of his Pamphlet which affirms or intimates any thing really to my disadvantage appear to be false as I think I have sufficiently I believe all Mankind who have read that Paper will allow me to be very much Master of my Passions when I give him no worse a Name St. John Brodrick POSTSCRIPT PErhaps the Reader might have expected to have some Accounts of what Sir R. tells the World was the Occasion of the Anger he has expressed against me viz. That I called his Proposal Dishonest and Knavish He tells not when where in what Company or upon what Occasion I said so I will neither affirm nor deny the words till I know certainly whether he charge me truly with them or not but onely declare that if I did say any such words and had been taxed with them in a manner becoming a Gentleman I would either have made him a Submission as Publick as my Fault was or have justified what I had said and given him an Opportunity of taking what Satisfaction he expected But as he has now used me I think myself in no sort obliged to take further Notice of them This I shall farther observe that tho' Sir R. B. hath thought fit to single me out to vilifie by Name his Malice hath not stopt there but in the same Pamphlet he reviles and traduces as worthy Persons as belong to the Kingdom of Ireland with Terms unbefitting a Gentleman to give or receive My LETTER To His GRACE THE Duke of Norfolk May it please your Grace I Humbly beg your Grace's Pardon for the Confidence of this Address which the Vindication of myself has made necessary and I am too well acquainted with your Grace's Honour and Temper to suspect that you will let any Man's Reputation suffer unjustly when 't is in your power to do him right If your Grace will please to turn over a late Pamphlet written by Sir Richard Buckley called The Proposals for sending back the Nobility and Gentry of Ireland Vindicated Which I herewith send to your Grace in the Twentieth Page of it you will find amonst other things this Objection against my being employed by Their Majesties I will not say that he will carry in his Regiment to his Old Master but this I will say that when His Majesty came up from the West to London in our March I found this Gentleman at Windsor then a Justice of the Peace and I have heard several say he was a Deputy-Lieutenant under the late King at a time when few honest Men in the Kingdom would accept of it The Reflection which the latter words carry seems so large that I cannot but believe they were inserted without the Allowance of the Authority by which the Title-page says his Book is Published But for me to insist only on the generality of the Accusation when I am particularly charged might reasonably be interpreted a shifting off what I could not defend myself against Your Grace being then Lord Lieutenant of Surrey is best able to say what ground the Gentleman has to charge me with any thing that may be an Imputation upon me upon that Account And to your Grace I appeal in it I intreat your Grace to give me leave to make Publick Use of your Answer to this Letter which shall always be owned by me as the greatest Favour tho' nothing can oblige me more than I am already obliged to be Decemb. 23. 1689. Your Grace's most Obedient and Faithful Servant St. JOHN BRODRICK His GRACE's ANSWER SIR IN Answer to what you write me word That you are aspersed as one that continued to act as a Justice of Peace and Deputy-Lieutenant in Surrey at a time when every one was turned out of Commission that did not promise to Repeal the Penal Laws and Tests I will always do you that Justice as to bear you witness that I first made you a Deputy-Lieutenant in the time of King Charles the Second and so you continued as well as in the Commission of the Peace until King James the Second caused the Questions concerning the Tests to be put to every one that was in Commission and that upon your refusing to comply with them you were immediately put out of the Commission of the Peace and I had Orders to remove you and all the rest that would not comply from being Deputy-Lieutenants but I chusing rather to run the hazard of being turned out with so many honest Gentlemen then to remain in with such as they would put in their rooms refused to Obey that Order so that it was not onely you in particular that continued for I did not turn out one Deputy-Lieutenant in either of the Counties of Norfolk Surrey or Berks where I was Lord-Lieutenant I am Your Servant NORFOLK and MARSHAL Decemb. 24. 1689. For Sir St. John Brodrick FINIS H. S. Esq F. 20. F. 21. F. 20. F. 21.