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A19031 An advertisement concerning a book lately published by Christopher Lawne and others, against the English exiled Church at Amsterdam. By Richard Clyfton teacher of the same church Johnson, Francis, 1562-1618. 1612 (1612) STC 5449; ESTC S118626 88,142 134

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they_o that_o love_v he_o errata_fw-la pag._n 17._o l._n 11._o read_v otherwhere_o &_o l._n 24._o &_o in_o all_o other_o place_n of_o the_o book_n where_o there_o be_v speech_n of_o the_o print_a copy_n of_o the_o article_n or_o objection_n about_o the_o division_n understand_v or_o put_v in_o the_o margin_n lawn_n discovery_n of_o schism_n pag._n 79._o etc._n etc._n pag._n 21._o l._n 1._o themselves_o pag._n 28._o l._n 19_o more_o member_n pag._n 30._o l._n 20._o mat._n 21.42_o and_o lin_v 21._o eph._n 2.12_o p._n 36._o l._n 28._o &_o 21.19.20_o &_o 22_o 15-19_a &_o 25.7_o 8_o 9_o jos_n 20._o p._n 37._o l._n 16._o &_o psa_n 82.1_o deut._n 19_o p._n 44._o l._n 7._o question_n p._n 59_o l._n 17._o &_o 14.1_o and_o in_o the_o margin_n rom._n 1.8_o p._n 64._o l._n 10.33.44_o and_o l._n 17.14.1_o &_o l._n 22._o 1_o pet._n 3.18_o p._n 65._o l._n 3._o ezec._n 29_o 3._o rev._n 13.1_o 2._o p._n 76._o l._n 3._o conceive_v p._n 94._o l._n 26._o by_o the_o church_n whereupon_o afterward_o they_o divide_v themselves_o from_o we_o p._n 102._o l._n 14._o contingent_a