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A44833	An answer to a book called A just defence and vindication of Gospel-ministers, and Gospel-ordinances put forth by J.G. In which he pretends an answer to E.B.'s Tryal of the ministers, and other things against the Quakers. ...Given forth from him who desires the edification and satisfaction of all in the things appertaining to the Kingdom of God, Rich. Hubberthorn	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.	1660 (1660)	Wing H3217; ESTC R219971	13,602	16

never so wicked yet because they are merry in their wickedness they may s●ng lyes in the Name of the Lord by thy Argument be Justified as men doing onely that which God had commanded them And again thou maist read in Scripture Joel 1. 5. that such wicked men and drunkards were called to weep and bowl for their misery was coming upon them so the Prophet did not call them to sing Davids Psalms because they were merry in their wickednesse as thou hast done and again thou may read in Amos. 8. 3. That the songs of the Temple shall be turned into bowling and these wicked men in the Temple were Merry and by thy argument might sing Psalmes or spirituall Songs but the Prophet saith instead of singing they must bowl and come to bitter Lamentation praise is not comely in the mouth of Fooles as the wise man saith who is taught of God but the mouth of a Fool poureth forth his folly and the instruction of Fools is folly Pro. 16. 22. And this Script●●●e we se fulfilled in thee for thy instructing of Fooles and wicked men because they are merry in their wickednesse they may sing Psalmes as a Command from God and herein I have answer'd a fool according to his foly least he should be wise in his own conceit and although David calleth all Gods host and all living things made and created to praise the Lord the Sun Moon and Stars the Heavens and the Waters the Earth the Dragons and the Deeps Fire Haile Snow and Vapor Stormes and Wind fulfilling his word Mountains and Hills and fruitfull Trees all Beasts Cattle Creeping things and flying Fowles Kings of the earth and all People c. And now as David was in the Covenant he saw the Creatures as they stood in their Covenant uncorrupted and so in a fit capacity to praise the Lord only man degenerated and unrestored again into the Covenant he saw it was not comely for him to praise nor to pray nor to take Gods words in his mouth nor to speak of his Statutes so far from Justifying thy Argument that wicked men because they are merry therefore may sing Psalmes but when the Priests or people takes notice of thy book and what Logick thou hast learned to jutify the wicked in their Singing as well as the godly and how thou hast shamed both thy self and them with such foolish confusion and University Logick its like they will set thee no more awork to defend and vindicate them with such weapons Again page 89. thou saist that it is said by the Prophet prov. 21. 4. that the ploughing of the Ploughman is sinn Answ. Here thou hast belyed the Prophet and perverted his words as thou hast done the Quakers for the Prophers words is these an high look and a proud heart and the ploughing of the wicked is sin but he doth not say that the ploughing of the Ploughman is sin But who can escape the envy of slandrous tongues which accounteth lying no sin if thereby they can accomplish their own wicked ends but the truth hath found thee out and made thee manifest and the Priests had better a wanted thy defence then to be so shamed by it as they will be unless they deny both thee and it Again in the same page thou saist to hear read pray sing psalmes and giving of thanks they are works morally good being Commanded by the Lord but the person doing them being not justified they are not good to him for whatsoever is not of Faith is sin Answ. This is another piece of confusion and charging of God foolishly and falsly to say that the Lord commands those things to be done and those he commands to do them in doing of which it is not good to them but sin Where hast thou learned or where dost thou read of such a doctrine that wicked men are commanded of God to do such things which in doing is not good to them but sin Is God or Christ then the Minister of sin or commands a man to conmit sin Is not this Blasphemy Error in the highest degree And how daest thou speak of God or of his Commands or of his Obedience seeing thou thus Blasphems him in his Worship but this shall remain as a Testimony against thee many other lyes and abominations hast thou spoken against us and against God and his Truth a few of which is sufficient to make thee manifest In page 107. thou saist our Quaking fits many are of opinion that they are diabolicall by a kind of witcheraft and said thou hast heard strange relations of Enchanted Ribbons and giving drink after c. Answ. Upon the same account many was of opinion that Christ had a Devill and was a Deceiver and that the Apostles were Ring-leaders of Sects Heresyes and such strange relations might have been heard concerning the Apostles in their dayes and it seemes to thee that such reports is sufficient proofe but this is contrary to what thou hast said in an other place that thou wouldst speake nothing but according to what was written in the Scriptures And whereas thou tells of Enchanted Ribbons Is there some Ribbons that are enchanted it may be thou meaneth enchanting Ribbons but if so where didst thou ever know such a thing and for proofe thou names Gilpin and Toldervyes books which neither of them doth relate such a thing so that it is thy enmity wickednesse for there was never any such thing among the Quakers as giving Ribbans and drink after but that charge thou might haue laid upon the Priests and their Defenders for there are the most ribbons used justified till in pride they are become the Servants of the Devill and there is the giving of drink one to another untill they be enflamed and made unsensible of God and of his fear by which they are enchanted and bewitched that they doe not obey the Gospell but are given up to their owne hearts Lusts and thereby are become the Servants of sin and so free from righteousnesse Lastly not only we have been falsly accused in these and many other things by thee but even the spirit of God which is the Fountain of cleannesse is by thee charged and accused to be corrupt an defiled page 33. by passing through mans corrupt nature thou saist becomes defiled Answ. Is not this a sin against the holy Ghost which shall never be forgiven to charge the spirit to be corrupt and defiled And in this thou also chargeth both the Father and the Son to be corrupt defiled for they are one so that if one of them be corrupt the other is corrupt also and as the spirit is in the Saints so is the Father in them and the Son the hope of their glory and none of them are defiled by mans corrupt nature But there is that in man by which that which corrupteth his nature is wrought out so that man is made clean and undefiled by the spirit and that spirit is not made corrupt and defiled by Man for that is contrary to the Scripture to say that by mans nature the spirit is defiled but to say that by the spirit mans nature is cleansed and sanctified this is according to the Scripture but it is the work of Sathan and his Messengers to Blasphem God in his Temple and so account his spirit by which he leadeth into all truth an unholy thing and so thou art of the number of them which account the blood and Spirit of the Covenant an unholy thing and we seeing and knowing these things as concerning our selves we are satisfied because the Servant is not abo●e his Master for if the Master be called Belzebub and the spirit a defiled or corrupt thing well may wee be called Deceivers although we be true and falsly accused with all manner of evil according to our Masters words and these things we should bear in patience and silence as to our selves but as in respect unto others we are constrained by the uncorrupted and undefiled Spirit of the Lord to testifie to the world that their deeds are evil and to manifest the workings of Sathan in the Mystery of Iniquity which now already worketh in many justifying the wicked and condemning the Just which is abomination to the Lord which his Spirit will not bear unreproved and not onely the Just men are condemned and falsly accused but also the Just undefiled Eternal and unerring Spirit is accused by him who makes a defence for the Priests in their unrighteous Practices and Wages so by the plain Evidence and Demonstration of Truth he being made manifest to be an Enemy to God and by his wicked works and words I do Judge him not worthy of much more Answer to his Book and also I do Judge him not able to prove any of the false Accusations charged in it against us some of which is herein returned unto him again which when he doth but really weigh it and consider it may be he will sit down in silence and wait if there may be hope of his forgiveness for this not onely ignorance but wilfulness charging us the Spirit of God and his people with that of which they were never guilty for we are in the Truth unto which every tongue shall confess and by which every Opposer shall become silent before the Lord and in the Spirit of this Truth do we desire not the Di●●ruction but the Repentance and Forgiveness of our Enemies And those that do abuse us and wrong us ignorantly their sins will be sooner blotted out then those who wilfully have set their hearts and tongues to work wickedness for they shall receive the greater condemnation The knowledge and life of truth is that we desire all people may come into that by it the power of the wicked one may be taken away which so furiously worketh in the hearts of those which receives not the Truth in the love of it but brings forth floods of enmity bitterness against the Lambs of Christ but the love of God which thinketh no evil neither doth any unto another is that which when it is felt obeyed in all will dry up those floods from off the face of the Earth that there may be a place of Rest for the Redeemed and Elect Seed who onely hath the Lord and his light for their habitation and the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God for their Armour and Defence THE END

have no part nor lot in that matter but for his Treachery and Covetousness bearing the Bag and betraying the Lord of Life for pieces of money in that they may be compared to him But thou saist The wickedness of the Person doth not disanul his Office being lawfully called thereunto until he be degraded from that Office And to prove it thou bring'st several Scriptures as Ezekiel 34. 3. where the Shepheards eat the Fat and cloath with the Wool and did not feed the Flock Esa. 56. 10 11. They are dumb Dogs that cannot bark sleeping lying down loving to slumber they all look to their own way every one for his gain from his Quarter come ye say they I will fetch Wine and we will fill our selves with strong drink and to morrow shall be as this day and much more abundant and these saist thou were truly called From which Example your Ministers as thou thus provest are lawfully called to the work of the Ministry but when these Ministers and People read thy Book they will not much commend thee for such a Defence for them But how dost thou prove that those before mentioned were lawfully called unto the work of the Ministry being wicked Persons But when thou read'st the Scripture over again thou maist see that those are such as the Lord said did run and he sent them not and said the Lord saith when he had not spoken unto them Jer. 14. 14. Now in this Vindication thou hast not done any thing of that pretented confuting E. B. his Book called A Just and Lawful Tryal of the Ministers and Teachers of this Age but hast rather confirmed it for he truly compared them unto those spoken of before mentioned and thou hast compared them as to the sons of Eli which were sons of Belial and knew not God and so his Book yet stands in force for a Tryal to such unanswered And again as for thy pleading for Tythes for such as are like the sons of Belial thou hast no Precept Practice nor Example in Scripture to plead for such a thing neither as such nor as the Ministers of Christ And whereas thou mention'st Act. 4 and Act. 5. and 1 Cor. 9. 4 5 c. These Scriptures speak nothing of Tythes nor of any Maintenance to the Ministry but onely how that when they had planted a Vineyard they might eat of the fruit and when they had gathered a Flock might eat of the milk and when they had sown spiritual things amongst a people they had power to eat and power to drink and so it was ordained that they who Preached the Gospel should live of the Gospel but it was not ordained that those who Preached the Gospel should live by forced Maintenance or by making Merchandize of mens Goods and Estates of which the Priests in England for which thou writest this Defence are guilty Again thou goest about to Defend the Prie●ts sprinkling of Infants saying It is a Sign or Seal of Salvation page 64. Answ. If this be true that all Children thus sprinkled with water have the Seal of Salvation by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ are by this Baptism made partakers of Grace and United into the Church as Members of the Church Why do you say both Priests and Professors that there is no falling from Grace have not many been so engrafted into the Church and received that Seal whom you now call Hereticks and Deceivers why do you so confound one Principle with another for we have been already so ingrafted into the visible Church and made partakers of that Grace which you say its impossible to fall from And thou bring'st Calvins words which saith That although there be but a little water cast upon our heads yet notwithstanding it is not a vain figure for the Heavens are opened upon us and God speaks in it as it were from Heaven and Christ is there present with his blood as Witnesses of the usage and operation of the Sacrament and saith Baptism is a Token and Proof of our Cleansing or a Seal and Character whereby God confirmeth unto us that all our sins are cancelled and abolished and that they may never be rehearsed nor imputed So then by this he that hath a little water cast on his Head he hears God speak in it and Christ being present with his blood washes away all sin and this is a proof of his Cleansing So why dost thou and the Priests speak and write against us as being fallen from Grace or departed from the Truth seeing we have received as well as you the Seal of the Covenant and Proof of Cleansing and cannot fall from it if your Doctrine be true but as for Spinkling Infants thou hast not brought one Scripture to prove it but saist Baxter against Tombes hath proved it and quotest Calvin and Beza as if their words were plainer proof for thy purpose then any Scripture for there is no Scripture without invented consequences that is a precept for it and when thou hast wearied thy self and canst not prove it thou saist whatsoever may be proved from the Scripture by consequence to be the scope and meaning of the Scripture is sufficient proof page 73. Again thou askest us a question To shew thee one Command or Example in the Scripture for the Baptizing of those that are growen up whose Parents one or both were Christians by professing the Gospel of Christ Answ. If thou knew the Scriptures or didst weigh thy own words it would stop thee from asking such foolish unlearned Questions for thou thy self confessest that those which were growen up were Baptized and that they had also received the Holy Ghost before they were Baptized and as for them or their Parents being called Christians by their Profession many beleivers were Baptised and followed Christ before the name Christians was given to them as thou may read Acts 11. 26. that after much people was gathered and so become Churches they were first called Christians at Antioch so whatsoever their Parents were called by Profession that is nothing to that which thou art about to prove sprinkling of Infants but to conclude thy proof for Infants Baptism thou quotes Rob. Brook who thou sayst hath read more Ecclesiasticall histories to find out the rise and beginning of Baptism of Infants in the Church of Christ then all the Quakers and yet he could ne●er find the beginning of it so here all this while thou hast pleaded for that which thou knowest not who was the first Author of and so thou hast run out thy self into meer ignorance But that thou maist be informed made wiser than thy Teachers thy learned Readers of Ecclesiastical Historyes I shall shew thee the beginning of that Baptism and who first invented Holy Water In the reign of Pope Alexander was Holy Water first invented water mixed with salt and by the saying of these words we bless water mixed with salt among the people that all men sprinkled therewith may be Sanctified