Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n
Text snippets containing the quad
ID |
Title |
Author |
Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) |
STC |
Words |
Pages |
A34077
|
The plausible arguments of a Romish priest answered by an English Protestant seasonable and useful for all Protestant families.
|
Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699.
|
1686
(1686)
|
Wing C5481; ESTC R16555
|
28,548
|
65
|
your_o mistake_n and_o embrace_v these_o very_a thing_n which_o you_o so_o rash_o censure_v therefore_o let_v we_o discourse_v the_o particular_n prot._n i_o can_v never_o be_v persuade_v to_o kneel_v down_o and_o pray_v before_o a_o image_n image-worship_n to_o offer_v up_o incense_n and_o gift_n to_o it_o since_o i_o read_v in_o scripture_n we_o must_v not_o bow_v down_o to_o they_o nor_o worship_v they_o exod._n xx_o 4_o 5._o and_o find_v idolatry_n so_o grievous_o condemn_v there_o po._n i_o confess_v the_o scripture_n condemn_v idolatry_n but_o sure_o you_o can_v be_v so_o weak_a to_o think_v we_o take_v the_o image_n for_o our_o god_n as_o heathen_n do_v prot._n we_o can_v see_v your_o thought_n but_o you_o do_v all_o those_o act_n before_o your_o image_n which_o heathen_n do_v before_o they_o and_o i_o be_o tell_v they_o excuse_v themselves_o as_o you_o do_v by_o say_v they_o do_v not_o take_v the_o image_n for_o their_o god_n yet_o all_o christian_n count_v they_o flat_a idolater_n po._n they_o be_v so_o because_o they_o worship_v image_n of_o false_a god_n but_o you_o must_v not_o say_v we_o be_v so_o because_o we_o be_v image_n of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o his_o saint_n prot._n they_o break_v the_o first_o commandment_n in_o have_v other_o god_n and_o you_o break_v the_o second_o which_o forbid_v the_o make_v any_o image_n to_o worship_v it_o not_o except_v the_o image_n of_o the_o true_a god_n or_o of_o thing_n in_o heaven_n so_o that_o this_o only_a prove_v your_o idolatry_n be_v of_o another_o kind_n not_o that_o it_o be_v no_o idolatry_n at_o all_o the_o jew_n be_v as_o real_a idolater_n for_o worship_v the_o golden_a calf_n though_o they_o take_v it_o for_o a_o representation_n of_o the_o true_a god_n exod._n xxxii_o 4_o 5._o as_o when_o they_o worship_v baal-peor_n numb_a twenty-five_o 2._o po._n well_o but_o we_o do_v not_o terminate_v any_o of_o our_o worship_n on_o the_o image_n but_o on_o that_o which_o it_o represent_v the_o image_n only_o help_v to_o raise_v up_o our_o mind_n to_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o it_o and_o our_o worship_n pass_v through_o the_o image_n to_o that_o thing_n which_o can_v be_v idolatry_n prot._n if_o it_o be_v a_o image_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o be_v creature_n it_o be_v idolatry_n to_o ask_v any_o thing_n of_o they_o which_o be_v in_o god_n power_n to_o give_v and_o so_o your_o worship_n in_o that_o case_n end_v in_o flat_a idolatry_n and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o image_n of_o god_n or_o jesus_n christ_n that_o worship_n which_o you_o give_v their_o image_n and_o intend_v shall_v terminate_v on_o god_n must_v be_v divine_a worship_n for_o otherwise_o you_o can_v worship_v god_n or_o christ_n by_o worship_v your_o image_n po._n but_o suppose_v our_o church_n find_v this_o way_n of_o worship_n help_v devotion_n may_v she_o not_o command_v any_o mode_n of_o worship_n for_o so_o good_a a_o end_n prot._n no_o she_o can_v command_v any_o mode_n of_o worship_n forbid_v in_o scripture_n upon_o no_o pretence_n whatever_o and_o sure_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n know_v what_o will_v help_v devotion_n as_o well_o as_o your_o church_n but_o there_o be_v not_o in_o their_o write_n one_o word_n for_o this_o way_n of_o worship_v god_n and_o there_o be_v a_o plain_a commandment_n against_o it_o and_o if_o you_o will_v confess_v truth_n the_o carve_n paint_v and_o gild_v of_o the_o image_n take_v off_o your_o thought_n from_o attend_v the_o matter_n of_o your_o prayer_n and_o so_o they_o hinder_v rather_o than_o help_v devotion_n po._n be_v it_o any_o more_o idolatry_n in_o our_o church_n to_o command_v this_o than_o in_o you_o to_o enjoin_v you_o to_o bow_v at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n and_o to_o bow_v to_o the_o altar_n prot._n there_o be_v some_o sort_n of_o pretence_n from_o the_o scripture_n in_o phil._n two_o 10._o for_o bow_v at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n but_o you_o can_v show_v any_o thing_n for_o bow_v to_o his_o image_n whilst_o we_o show_v a_o command_n against_o it_o and_o we_o do_v not_o bow_v to_o the_o altar_n but_o towards_o it_o that_o be_v we_o only_o look_v that_o way_n when_o we_o worship_v the_o true_a god_n but_o have_v no_o visible_a representation_n of_o he_o before_o we_o when_o we_o do_v this_o and_o beside_o this_o ceremony_n be_v leave_v at_o liberty_n so_o that_o none_o be_v bind_v to_o observe_v it_o po._n but_o do_v we_o not_o respect_v the_o image_n of_o our_o prince_n or_o our_o friend_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o those_o they_o represent_v and_o ought_v not_o all_o christian_n to_o respect_v the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n for_o their_o sake_n prot._n we_o do_v not_o talk_v to_o these_o picture_n of_o our_o prince_n or_o friend_n not_o make_v petition_n to_o they_o this_o will_v look_v like_o madness_n we_o do_v respect_v the_o image_n of_o christ_n but_o that_o will_v not_o serve_v you_o unless_o we_o fall_v down_o and_o worship_v it_o but_o we_o must_v answer_v you_o we_o be_v to_o worship_v the_o lord_n our_o god_n and_o he_o only_o must_v we_o serve_v math._n four_o 10._o po._n i_o confess_v we_o can_v expect_v you_o shall_v pray_v before_o the_o image_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n till_o we_o have_v convince_v you_o of_o your_o error_n in_o not_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o saint_n angel_n so_o that_o i_o shall_v now_o go_v on_o to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o call_v upon_o angel_n to_o help_v we_o for_o do_v not_o jacob_n do_v so_o gen._n xlviii_o 16._o prot._n pray_v read_v the_o place_n and_o you_o will_v find_v he_o pray_v only_o to_o the_o angel_n that_o redeem_v he_o that_o be_v to_o christ_n who_o appear_v as_o a_o angel_n often_o to_o the_o patriarch_n before_o his_o incarnation_n and_o be_v call_v the_o angel_n of_o god_n presence_n isai_n lxiii_o 9_o but_o the_o create_a angel_n will_v not_o suffer_v st._n john_n so_o much_o as_o to_o bow_v down_o to_o they_o revel_v nineteeen_o 10._o and_o chap._n xxii_o 8._o saying_n that_o be_v a_o piece_n of_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n yea_o the_o pretend_a humility_n of_o go_v not_o direct_o to_o god_n but_o by_o the_o mediation_n of_o angel_n be_v call_v a_o deceit_n and_o plain_o forbid_v by_o the_o apostle_n coloss_n two_o 18._o and_o christ_n have_v teach_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o his_o father_n if_o we_o want_v the_o assistance_n of_o his_o angel_n math._n xxvi_o 53._o po._n do_v not_o your_o bible_n tell_v you_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n under_o the_o altar_n pray_v for_o we_o revel_v vi_fw-la 9_o 10._o and_o may_v we_o not_o then_o desire_v they_o to_o pray_v to_o god_n for_o we_o prot._n those_o spirit_n only_o pray_v in_o general_a for_o the_o speedy_a come_n of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o be_v bid_v to_o rest_n in_o quiet_a till_o then_o ver._n 11._o but_o this_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o particular_a man_n in_o distant_a place_n to_o ask_v particular_a thing_n of_o they_o as_o health_n wealth_n peace_n protection_n yea_o pardon_n grace_n and_o glory_n which_o none_o but_o god_n can_v give_v nor_o do_v the_o scripture_n any_o where_o declare_v we_o shall_v ask_v these_o thing_n of_o any_o other_o but_o god_n po._n how_o dare_v you_o that_o be_v a_o sinner_n who_o god_n will_v not_o hear_v john_n ix_o 31._o presume_v to_o ask_v these_o thing_n direct_o of_o god_n himself_o without_o desire_v his_o friend_n to_o pray_v for_o you_o prot._n though_o i_o be_o unworthy_a yet_o i_o be_o command_v to_o pray_v and_o to_o ask_v all_o that_o i_o need_v in_o christ_n name_n and_o be_o promise_v if_o i_o do_v so_o i_o shall_v be_v hear_v john_n fourteen_o 13_o 14._o and_o chap._n xuj_o 23_o 24._o yea_o i_o be_o tell_v he_o be_v my_o advocate_n 1_o john_n two_o 2._o and_o that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n 1_o tim._n two_o 5._o now_o after_o all_o this_o i_o think_v it_o be_v a_o great_a presumption_n without_o any_o command_n direction_n or_o promise_n to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o saint_n as_o our_o advocate_n and_o mediator_n for_o it_o be_v to_o leave_v the_o way_n prescribe_v by_o god_n and_o invent_v a_o new_a one_o of_o our_o own_o it_o be_v to_o take_v that_o honour_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o give_v it_o to_o his_o servant_n so_o that_o we_o may_v well_o believe_v it_o will_v disoblige_v he_o we_o pray_v to_o po._n you_o do_v not_o consider_v that_o we_o hold_v the_o saint_n join_v their_o intercession_n to_o that_o of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o to_o desire_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o we_o can_v be_v no_o injury_n to_o christ_n who_o we_o deny_v not_o to_o be_v our_o mediator_n prot._n it_o must_v suppose_v christ_n intercession_n not_o