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A81815 The fulness and freeness of Gods grace in Jesus Christ, declared in two general points: first, that personal election is no ground of the saints perseverance in the grace of God by Jesus Christ. Secondly, in what sense the scriptures speake the saints perseverance in that grace. The third part. / By Francis Duke.; Fulnesse and freenesse of Gods grace in Jesus Christ. Part 3 Duke, Francis. 1656 (1656) Wing D2503; Thomason E892_9; ESTC R205568 71,363 121

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Again The Apostles were not of the World as he was not of the World because he engaged himself in life and Doctrine in opposition to the Apostate World both men and Angels And so in some degree did the Apostles and all Beleevers and so they were not of the World as he was not of the World from this ground it is that he said to his Father I pray not for the World that is for them as to their course of life and conversation but for them which thou hast given me out of the World that is Apostles and Beleevers that thou wouldest keep them from the evil The third Quere What meaneth our Lord by these words for their sakes sanctifie I my self that they also may be sanctified through thy truth Answ He meaneth that the Apostles should be sanctified by his word of truth because by it he did sanctifie himself to his work as it respected his Fathers final end Therefore cursed be for ever that Doctrine of the sneaking Quakers and our Familistical ranting Popelings by whom the Apostate Angels endevour to adulterate the most pure Oracles of God the old and new Testaments Secondly Although he thus prayes that it might sanctifie them in their work as it had done him yet we must note this by the way he was not unholy before for if we consider him as the second in the one Jehovah so he was infinite in holiness or personally God-man for so he was perfectly holy because that humane seed which was elect out of the fallen Masse to be assumed in the course of nature in the womb of the Virgin was totally separated from the least tincture of the nature of Devils sin I mean because the Virgin was over-shadowed by the Holy Ghost therefore that holy thing was called the Son of the most high Luk. 1.35 that is above all created natures in a superlative degree Quest If you ask me how could he be sanctified by the word of truth who was so sanctified in his divine and humane nature Answ Very well Heb. 5.8 for as he did grow in stature and wisdom so he learned obedience by the things he suffered that is Luk. 2.40 52. he did grow in degrees of heavenly wisdom in the sacred Oracles of God that is the old Testament and also in the words which himself received from his Father and gave them to his Apostles in the 8. v. of Jo 17. which now to us is the new Testament and as he did grow from Child-hood to a youth or young man to a perfect man he still kept close to his Fathers words from whence he was able to dispute with the Doctors at 12. years age to dispute with the Devils alledging It is written and custom makes another nature in good Luk. 4.4.8 as well as in evil for we see by his sufferings he learned obedi-ence that is better and better Object If it be objected Object That if he were more perfect then formerly consequently he was formerly lesse perfect consequently he sinned because he fell short of his Fathers will I answer Answ Not so for his Fathers Law requires man to love God but with all his soul and all his strength and his Neighbour as himself but no more then is proper to his kinde Therefore he sinned not And for his divine nature it being without limits in its Essence is without Law in his operations Again he being not created as was the first Adam a perfect man at once but being born of Woman came to it by degrees as is formerly proved yet in every degree he did as himself saith alwayes those things that pleased his Father Jo. 8.29 therefore he sinned not Again Our Lord did not thus sanctifie himself onely to accomplish his Fathers final end himself but also for his Apostles sake for saith he for their sakes sanctifie I my self that is to give them example how to go on ministerially in that which himself hath done fundamentally whence in the 18th verse he saith As thou hast sent me into the World even so I have sent them into the World that is to a World of Heathens and to a world of proud formal professors the Jewes his Elect Spouse for he came to his own and his own received him not To this end he gave his Commandement to the Apostles to go forth to the World Jo. 1.11 saying Goe ye therefore and teach all Nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe whatsoever I have commanded you and loe I am with you alwayes that is Mat. 19.28 by my spirit for that is implyed Again He sanctified himself for all beleevers that he that sanctifieth they that are sanctified may be one not only in sufferings but in holiness insome degree in this life and to be perfect in one in the next Heb. 2.11 as is proved for he did know as satans lies believed by our first Parents we in them was und is the universal ground of all unholiness and ungodliness so on the contrary he did know that his Fathers truth beleeved and obeyed is the universal ground of all true holiness and godliness and therefore prayed sanctified them with the truth thy word is truth that is the only alone truth so to do by the spirit of truth which goes along with that word which the world that lives in weakness knowes not Therefore O you friends of the Bride-groom keep close to the pure truth of the Oracles of God for the grounds of your Doctrines expositions and applications and be content with the simplicity thereof and look not too much upon this or that mans expositions as to put too much stresse upon any mans wit or learning for their mistakes are numerous But above all keep to the four grounds manifested in the Oracles of God for in themselves they are infallible The first is Mans pure naturals as he was created by God for in holiness and righteousness created he him The second ground is the Covenant of works between God and Adam and these two States were distinct and each did stand alone before mans fall The third ground is the fall of man The fourth ground is the restauration of the whole Creation by Christ the second Adam The which four grounds in some measure are opened in the four first Chapters of my first Treatise upon which grounds that first Book my second Book and this third Book are built by him who makes use of the foolish things of the World 1 Cor. 1.27 to condemn the wise and when you see a Bee work beyond his wit then know there is a greater efficient than it Again The Father gave not only twelve men of all flesh to be Christs Apostles nor only all right beleevers of all flesh to be his mystical members here but if they continue to the end to be triumphant in Heaven to eternity But also he
seen it and beare witness ad shew unto you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us and Vers 3. That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you that ye also may have fellowship with us and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with his Sonne Jesus Christ And these things write we unto you that your joy may be full And Vers 5. concludes This then is the message which we have heard of him that is of Christ and declare unto you namely That God is light in whom is no darkness at all Thus it is a great happiness to a godly minde to know the infinite God as he hath manifested himself by Jesus Christ for Iohn writ these things to the faithful that their joy might be full Again Take special notice of this that it is one thing that the infinite Essence of Jehovah thus possesses man and all things else as is foreshewn and another thing for man to possess him as to his happiness for so man onely possesses God by his rules which he hath made suitable to mans understanding and will so to move or work to enjoy him as a reasonable Creature and this is to walk in the light and his light to be in us Psal 119.106.130 as saith the Text. The entrance of thy word giveth light it giveth understanding to the simple thy word is a Lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path and this is implyed by Iohn in 1 John 6.7 If we say we have fellowship with him and walk in darkness we lye and do not the truth and if we walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship one with another and the blood of Iesus Christ his Sonne cleanseth us from all sin 2 Joh. 3. Hereby we know that we know him if we keep his Commandements but I am sure you know him not but deny his Commandements to be his word and refuse to walk by his rules you will have his Essence as a tender part of you and that 's your word and that 's your rule but what saith the next Verse He that saith he knoweth him and keepeth not his Commandements is a lyar and the truth is not in him And in the next Verse he calls Gods Commandements his word Whosoever keepeth his word in him verily is the love of God perfected and hereby we know saith St. John We know that we are in him therefore because you do not keep his word we know that you are not in him for all your swelling words of vanity in your 4th page for when you had spoken of your single sol'd your single-hearted Shoomaker I stand ready say you to hear and obey all things that the lively voyce of God which is your light within speaking in my soule shall require of me as page 5. you quote one John Jackson for a tall Cedar in the profession of Religion but you vaunt your self a taller man of your hands than any speaks with tongue Page 19. for say you I lay down this as a positive position which through the strength of God viz. your lying light within I shall not onely be able by letter or witness without me viz. the Scripture or declaration of the word of God or your lying light within clearly to maintain against the ablest man whatsoever that speaks with a tongue that can or shall oppose it c. yet nevertheless here is a poor Idiot whom Jehovah hath taught in his Law is able to encounter you and your Companions and also your Emissaries whom you send out to preach your lying light in the Countries and stile them the Ministers of the everlasting Gospel but of this light namely the true light I will give you a definition what light is from the Apost Eph. 5.13 whatsoever doth make manifest is light this he layes down as a definitive rule what Light is as to us men yet note this he doth not define Light in its nature but as it is in its effects to us so he defines it whatsoever doth make manifest that is Light God doth manifest himself to us in foure things every of which to us is Light The first is the Fabrick of the Creation in all its parts Rom. 1.19 20. man himself the chief the Text saith That which may be known of God is manifest in them that is the Creatures for God had shewed it to them for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the World are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his eternal power and God-head Hence the Psalmist saith O Jehovah how wonderful are thy works Psal 104. v. 24. Psal 107. v. 43. in wisdom hast thou made them all the Earth is full of thy righteousness who so is wise and will observe those things even they shall understand the loving kindness of the Lord therefore this manifestation was light to these godly men A second manifestation of God to lead men to know the invisible God is his Word written in the Scriptures which as formerly is proved giveth light to the simple being a Lamp unto their steps and a light unto their paths and this is the second light But thirdly That which doth most of all manifest and is therefore Light is the Spirit of God being the third Elohim in Jehovah that is even the spirit of truth Joh. 14.17 Joh. 16.13 Joh. 17.17 And when the spirit of truth is come he will guide you into all truth Sanctifie them through thy truth thy word is truth that is the Spirit of God enlightens the minde to love and obey God in his Word of truth according to the desire of David Open thou my understanding that I may see the wonders of thy Law and in another place Teach me and lead me in thy truth And the Apostle speaking of right beleevers saith Rom. 8.26 The Spirit helpeth our infirmities for we knew not what we should pray for as we ought but the Spirit it self maketh intercession for us with sighes and groans that cannot be expressed that is the third Elohim discovering to us by the Word of God some depth of our imperfections to any thing that is right in Gods sight from thence arise sighes and grones that cannot be exprest and not that the third Elohim himself doth sigh and groan but because his silent and secret efficiency doth frame a sanctified minde to this blessed disposition therefore it is attributed to him and not to us so it is attributed to him to make intercession for us not that he doth actually make intercession for us not that he doth actually make intercession himself but because he teacheth us how to pray aright according to Gods Word for saith the Text 2. Cor. 2.10 God hath revealed this to us by his Spirit for the Spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God therefore this manifestation is the most neer and clearest light to
being also but an object of sense but being out of the body this also vanisheth as to the reasonable soul for then the spirit of man seeth by its own light a light suitable to its own nature but what it is we know not for although the light and darkness of this World is light and darkness to our sense yet to God they are neither for darkness and light are both alike to thee saith the Psalmist Psal 139.11 12. so is it to the spirits of all good and bad men and Angels being the next created nature to the uncreate nature of God How Quest and by what light doth God see and perceive thing I answer by his own light If you ask me what that light is I answer it is his Essence And if you ask me what his Essence is I answer none but himself can tell no created nature either of men or Angels The Text saith God is light and in him is no darknesse at all who only hath immortality and dwelleth in that light which no man can approach unto 1 Joh. 1.5 1 Tim. 6.16 whom no man hath seen nor can see To whom be honour and power everlastingly Amen But it will be objected the Text saith 1 Joh. 3.2 we shall know him as he is As it is in the Text it is true that is when Christ who is God-man shall appear we shall see him as he is and every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself even as he is pure and thus we shall know him as he is that is as he shall be pleased to manifest himself according to our measure or capacity the which manifestations are three the Scripture speaks of no more Quest What is the first It is this inferior World Answ as travelling by the force of Christs imputed righteousness as is proved whence it is That his tender mercies are over all his works Psal 147.6 From this ground ariseth his kindness to the just and unjust Mat. 5.45 Acts 17.27 that they should seek the Lord if happily they might feel after him and find him though he be not far from every one of us and this is the first manifestation Quest What 's the second Answ His sacred Oracles the old and new Testament a far more neer and clear manifestation of God yet this is dark 1 Cor. 13.12 and thorough a glasse in comparison of the third What 's the third manifestation Quest It is the Heaven of Heavens Answ a place purposely created by God the most immediate expressions of himself in most splendide lustre of divine glory that Angels or man made perfect in a spirituallized body can be capable of in their ultimate comprehensions I say a place created because whatsoever is a Creature is limited in its Essence and therefore confinable to place and this is according to our measure for no Creature is able to behold the naked Essence of the infinite Jehovah wherein our comprehensions would be confounded or swallowed up for it is only proper to his infinite Essence to be without circumference Hence we may observe the silly and shallow seducements of these worms I mean the Familistical crew who dreamingly think that they are he But you will ask this Question Quest How the infinite Essence of God can be both out and in the natures motions and lives of persons and things and not He to be their Essence nor they his by mixture of natures That in regard the Text affirms That in him we live Answ move and have our being it is unquestionably true in it self he being infinite and the word him points out he as not we and the word we points out we as not he and it is one thing that it is so and another thing for men and Angels piercingly to know the manner how it is for although the Angels know it much more than we can that are in an Elementary body of sense and sin yet there is such a disproportion betwixt a finite and an infinite that they can never reach the manner how That secret efflux by which the Divine nature continues the being of Creatures in himself that they can never reach it being so immediate and they know not how themselves live and move for they cannot know beyond their created measure received from their maker But as for us we must beleeve it because the Text saith it and there rest and as for the manner how it is only known to God himself for the truth is we know little or nothing we know not the manner how a pile of grasse groweth or how one hair of our head nor the manner how our stature is increased for it is one thing to know we are increased and another thing to know the manner how in which we can do no more than the Mother knowes how the bones of her Infant growes in her womb or whether it be male or female till it be born And the Text saith Loe these are parts of his wayes but how little a part is heard of him Job 26.14 Eccles 11.5 as thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her which is with Child even so thou knowest not the works of God which maketh all Again The spirit of man returns to God who gave it that is for an enjoyment of his presence and love which is better than life thus the Apostate Angels went out from God Psal 63.3 for they left their own habitation and were puffed up they did aspire to be God himself as did we in our first Parents to be as Gods and thus do the Familistical Quakers and fall into the condemnation of the Devil but the spirit of man may return to God that gave it Jud. v. 6. 1 Tim. 3.6 As the spirit of right beleevers do and enjoy his love which is better than life but this is not the returning to God meant in the Text. In your second Treatise Object and in this it is affirmed that whatsoever is in God is he therefore that potency and radical vertue which you say was in God himself out of which he produced all Creatures consequently that vertue and all Creatures are as God himself especially the spirit of man is Gods own Essence and shall as the Familists say return into the same Essence consequently there shall remain no individuals existently to be damned or saved in blisse or torments to eternity This conclusion thus drawn from the premises Answ arises from their ignorance of two things the one is not knowing or beleeving the Scriptures for if the Scriptures were known and beleeved this Objection would have died in its conception and never come to its birth because it positively denies what the Scripiture affirms that is Gods final end for which he made both men and Angels and all things subservient to them and their use And in this end the whole Ocean of all his glory terminates consequently
received by the Saints inherent righteousness as in the particular branch of beleef and so make a conjunction as the eye with the light yet the light is one thing and the dark body of the eye that receiveth it is another thing and ever distinguished as distinct in their natures so it is between Christs righteousness received by beleef and that particular branch of their inherent righteousness which receives it in their natures are ever distinct for Christs righteousness which is by God imputed and by beleevers received is in the perfection of degrees otherwise eternal life could never have been attained by it but every branch of the Saints inherent righteousness is but in the perfection of parts and as filthy rags as is proved then what fellowship can there be between Christs perfect righteousness and the Saints imperfect as to the attaining of eternal life even as much as is betwixt Christ and Belial yet neverthelesse I grant by the way of similitude and by virtue of that union between the head and the members there is a conformity betwixt Christs righteousness and the righteousness of the Saints and therefore Christ as the head is sensible of the sufferings of the members therefore when Saul persecuted the Saints Christ called to him and said Saul Saul why persecutest thou me Again observe Is it the second property of love to adde to the perfection of the thing loved then you that know your selves to be Saints every one according to your measure received adde to the perfection on of Gods prayse by being filled with the fruits of your inherent righteousness adding to your faith virtue as is described for then as saith the Text Ye shall not be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ for this in you is it which doth adde to the perfection of Gods glory as saith our Lord Herein is my Father glorified that ye bring forth much fruit and this will demonstrate to your secret mind that you love God for saith our Lord He that hath my Commandements and keepeth them he it is that loveth me and then Christ will manifest to your mind that he loveth you and this will be your honour for God saith I will honour them that honour me And thus he did honour David while he was upright in his measure received by strengthening him to the destruction of the Lion and the Beare and Goliah and so advanced him to be King so on the contrary those Saints that dishonour him he will dishonour them and cause them to be despised as he did David for the matter of Batsheba and Uriah by delivering up his Son Absolom to his wicked mind to attempt the thrusting of David out of the Kingdom that he might be King in his Fathers room as also to commit filthiness with Davids Concubine in the sight of the Sunne and all Israel Again observe you that are Saints If you love him which did beget you will also love them that are begotten not by the will of the flesh but by Gods word of truth for here you see the property of true love is to adde to the perfection of the thing loved then look what affection you bear to the godly because they are such whether you compassionate their misery be they mighty or mean in the World if they are lost in fooles Paradise and vain prosperity as was David esteeming his Molehill as a Mountain If you have opportunity and ability adde to the perfection of their godliness and from divine truth blast their pride and foolishness or according to you own intimacy with God procure some merciful chastizement upon them that they may not perish with the world of ungodly so in this case God did withdraw his wonted presence from Davids secret minde and this was his trouble and the occasion of his return to God or to your Brethren that are mean in the world to adde to their perfection according to their necessity and your ability Also by your example abounding in the fruits of righteousness and so lead them into paths of true godliness then this will evidence to your secret minde that you do adde to the perfection of the thing loved consequently that you do love God and your Brethren not onely in word and in tongue but in deed and in truth CHAP. XI Wherein is treated of Patience as to its perfect work IN brief Patience in its perfect work is no more but this a quiet sufferance in bitter crosses unto the end liking it as issuing from the sacred hand of God Aaron went something neer to the perfection of patience for when Jehovah slew his Sonnes Levit. 10.2 3. Aaron held his peace So Eli answered It is Jehovah let him do what seemeth him good so David 1 Sam. 3.13 18. Psal 9 9. I was dumb I opened not my mouth because thou diddest it But as for Job in him patience had her perfect work for he quietly suffered his bitter and transcendent crosses to the end thereof as issuing to him from the hand of God to the losse of his whole estate and all his Children by fierce winds by robbers and fire from Heaven for then he arose and rent his mantle and shaved his head and fell down upon the ground and worshipped and said Jo 1. from the 3. to the 22. Naked came I out of my Mother womb and naked shall I return thither Jehovah hath given and Jehovah hath taken away and blessed be the name of Jehovah And the Text concludes In all this Iob sinned not nor charged God foolishly that is patience had her perfect work as formerly is described wherefore the Scriptures layes this down as the onely pattern of patience Christ excepted that is under the execution of Satans first Commission upon him and also in the entrance of the second he did detain his patience for a time for when Satan had stroke him with boiles from the sole of his foot to his crown he sate down among the ashes took him a pot-sheard to scrape himself withall whereupon said his wife unto him Dost thou still retain thine integrity Job 2. v. 3.7 8 9 10. Curse God and die But he said Thou speakest as one of the foolish Women speaketh What shall we receive good at the hand of God and shall we not receive evil and the Text concludes In all this Iob sinned not with his lips that is though his minde did begin to boyle and rise yet he did restrain it implying here was patience but not to her perfect work as before But when Iob came off suffering under the first Commission saith Iehovah to Satan Hast thou considered by Servant Job that there is none like him in the Earth a perfect and an upright man one that feareth God and escheweth evil and still he holdeth fash his integrity although thou movest me against him to destroy him without cause The first Commission in these words Iehovah said unto Satan Jo. 1.12 Behold
nature not meaning those former graces wrought in them by the word and Spirit of God But they fansie themselves to be the divine Essence essentially the one Iehovah this they name also by a light within them but do you be sure to make Christ your Religion who is personally God-man and none other and depend upon his righteousness imputed onely for Gods gift of eternal life Also beware ye destroy not that inherent righteousness which is in you for that is the Temple of the Holy Ghost Wherefore give all diligence to make your Calling and Election sure because God if you so do by an act of merciful justice will establish you and keep you that you shall never fall totally nor finally to be seemingly deified Angels of light but indeed and in truth Angels of darkness the Children of the Devil a cursed crew of Familists who scornfully despise the sacred Ministery of Jesus Christ stilling the holy Ministers Priests and the godly which wait at wisdoms gates to be taught by Christ by their Ministery they stile them Priest-ridden fellows and stile the sacred Oracles of God to be but a dead letter and from beneath therefore O you Saints of God which yet rightly beleeve take heed of turning your graces which God hath endued you with into wantonness by a filthy greedy covetousness under a proud formality in Religion to walk after the flesh for by the just judgement of God at this time upon the Churches of Christ for so doing from amongst you and of you do arise these monstrous blasphemous Beasts the most dangerous Antichrist that ever was within the confines of Christendom therefore I say take heed for there may a time come upon you that yet stand for quenching the Spirit and loosing your first love and for making ship-wrack of that Faith and Conscience that once was good and for destroying the Temple of God which is holy which Temple ye are he will destroy you And the Text subjoynes these words speaking to the Saints Let no man deceive himself because then you are in the high way to the impardonable sin and then ye shall never beleeve more the sacred truth of God though never so cleared unto you for then God will deny you the gift of faith and then your damnation sleepeth not though you should deny as do the Familists No man shall be damned or saved Judas shall be in as good a case as Peter for say they all shall be turned into the divine Essence of the one Jehovah yet know this that the one Jehovah will not deny himself in his word of truth but make his final end good upon all flesh except as is excepted that is the case of dying in infancy that is every man according to his works that he hath done in the body whether it be good or whether it be evil that is some to be Vessels of dishonour to eternity and some to be for honour to eternity And Heaven and Earth shall fail before one jot or tittle of this truth shall fall short of what God hath said for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it as at large is proved in the 12. Chapter of my second Treatise CHAP. XIII Containing an answer to Lieut. Col. John Lilburn his six particulars viz. FIrst You deny the Trinity Secondly You deny the Scriptures to be the word of God Thirdly You deny there is any word of God but that light which is in man Fourthly You affirm in your Book Pag. 16. that that light in man is as the light is in God himself in whom is no darkness at all Fifthly You affirm the Scriptures are true as a witness-bearer or declarer of that light in man which you call Christ Sixthly You affirm Gods word the light in man was long before the Scriptures To the first I answer and thus I prove the Trinity Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one Lord Deut. 6.4 and I told you the word Lord Deut. 6.4 twice in this Text was by the care of the Translators of the Bible ordered to be printed in Capital letters purposely to notifie unto the people that the word Lord in the Original was Jehovah as I have heard Doctor Gouge unfold many years agoe whereupon I told you that you must read the Verse thus Hear O Israel Jehovah our Elohims is one Jehovah so that here is Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity Also I told you Gen. 1.26 the Elohims spake each to other and said Let us make man c. and John in his first Epistle the 5th and the 7th saith There are three that bear record in Heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and saith he These three are one here also is Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity suitable to that of Moses Jehovah our Elohims is one Jehovah as Mr. John Brain most learnedly unfolds against M. John Biddle's most grosse Doctrine of the Trinity and as he sayes to him so say I to you Deny this if you can As to the second I will prove the Scriptures to be Gods word which is that which declares the minde of God to man as amongst men our words convey one mans minde to another It is written Heb. 1.1 2. God who at sundry times 1 Joh 5.7 Heb. 1.1 2. in divers manners spake in time past unto the Fathers by the Prophets hath in these last times spoken unto us by his Sonne Again When the Elohims had spake each to other saying Let us make man c. Here note by the way that because the Elohims thus spake each to other the Trinity cannot be as some dream that is Distinctions and Relations onely but really Existencies in the Essence of Jehovah for Distinctions and Relations are such as cannot speak Man being thus made God conveys his minde to mans minde by his word and said unto them Be fruitful and multiply likewise he said Gen. 1.1 26 28 29 Gen. 2.16 Gen. 3.9 Gen. 4.4 6 9 15. Gen. 6.13 Behold I have given you every Herb c. Likewise Gen. 2.16 Jehovah Elohim commanded the man saying c. Likewise after the fall Jehovah Elohim called to Adam and said unto him c. Likewise he conveyed his minde to Cains minde three times by his word Likewise Elohim said to Noah The end of all flesh is come before me So also he conveyed his minde to Noah and to his Sons with him Gen. 9.8 Gen. 13.13 14. Gen. 12.1 Numb 15.30 saying c. And so to Abraham Are not these words which these Scriptures speak Gods own words by which he conveyed his minde to the minde of these men but I pray you hearken what God speaks to all such as you are The soul that doth ought presumptuously whether he be born in the Land or a stranger the same reproacheth Jehovah and do not you reproach Jehovah when you deny these and other Scriptures to be his word Yet he further saith That soul shall be cut
must ground upon a lye and nothing else for you deny the increate word of God the second Elohim in Trinity Joh. 1.1 Who in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God And secondly You deny the Scriptures to be the word of God and so you leave the World no word of God but the light forsooth that is within you so much for your second point Thirdly you affirm There is no word of God but that light which is in man To this I need give no answer having proved a twofold word of God but because you did affirm your light within to be the word of God I desired you to prove it thereupon you alleaged the 1. of Iohn and the 1. Vers In the beginning was the word c. To which I answered That word which was with God and was God was the second Elohim in Iehovah or in the Trinity and he did create all things and without him was not any thing made that was made but what I pray you did that light within you create what were the things which it created and made for the Lord Jesus Christ himself who is personally God-man simply so created nothing that is as he is Christ yet you would have your light which you call Christ to be a creator of you know not what And because I affirm that the word that was with God and was God being the second person in Trinity this stirred up the light within you to deny the Trinity therefore I conclude that the light in you is darkness Yet neverthelesse I do grant that the Lord Jesus Christ as personally God-man the second Adam after the fall of the World by the first Adam immediately did as the faithful and true witness of God against the Apostate-Angels lies Rev. 3.14 as it were put a new Creation upon the works which God had made by virtue of his imputative righteousness interposing the imputative unrighteousness of Adam put the whole Creation in a travell until now from that bondage of corruption Rom. 8. to which it fell to be partakers of the glorious liberty of the Sons of God And this first Chapter of Iohn speaks to both that is what he did as he is the second Elohim in Iehovah and also to what he did as he was personally God-man Jesus Christ But what is all this to your Idoll light within which is your spiritual King Jesus and your Christ I and the same light which is in God himself I pray you let me ask you this question is not this to reproach Ichovah for you also attribute Creation to your light within so much to the third point Fourthly You affirm in your Book pag. 16. That that light in man is as the light is in God himself in whom is no darkness at all I answer This word light is a metaphor allluding to the light of this inferior Elementary World which light is not suitable to the reasonable soul of man nor spirits as Angels but to the eye of flesh as to man and beast yet no man certainly knowes what it is but in probability whether it be a quality a substance or a spirit therefore for its excellency the essence or nature of Iehovah is compared unto it the words are these God is light 1 Tim. 6.16 1 Joh. 1.5 in whom is no darkness at all who onely hath immortality dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto which no man hath seeen nor can see to whom be honour and power everlasting Amen Yet in your Book pag. 15. you affirm that this light which in the Text is the infinite Essence of God is the living and quickning holy or tender part of man the everlasting word of God by whom all things were made But herein you fall just with the Familists that the Essence of God is the tender part of man but as to those your elder Brethren in evill I have answered this point formerly in this very Treatise Pag. 19.27 And also in my second Treatise from pag. 104. to 108. Nevertheless I will say something of this point to you also And first I grant that this increate light the Essence of Jehovah our Elohims is in all men and in all things but not in your sense as to be any part of the nature of man or of any thing else for it is in him that we and all things else do live and move and have our being for as nothing is able to include him so is it impossible that he should be excluded by any thing But I pray you here take notice That although the sacred Essence of God be within and without all men yet this no way conduces to the happiness of man as you ignorantly affirm in several places of your Book and in pag. 19. it is affirmed to be the very principle of all true Religion I pray you is it such a principle to the Devills and all damned Creatures for their being life and motion is in him He that is being it self is the bottom of the being of all created nature and so it is of good and bad men to continue them to be happy or to be tormented to eternity otherwise they would all fall to nothing by an annihilation But God for his final ends sake will so continue them for ever now what that final end is I refer you to my second Treatise and thus for his final ends sake he upholds the Earth which hangs by nothing as saith the Text that is by no created thing and the Text saith He sitteth upon the Circle of the Earth and the truth is his infinite Essence is not only in and thorough all created Natures and Worlds but also his intrinsicall glory extends far beyond them all and he is where they are not nor any created thing ever were for in his intrinsical glory they all adde nothing unto him who is Jehovah our Elohims our own Jehovah and is this that which you call the tender part of man and so his happiness as you childishly affirm not knowing what you say Again I answer and grant It is a great happiness unto a godly mind to know and possess this infinite light which is both within and without us as he is pleased to stoop to our capacities as appeares Joh. 1.1 speaking of the Lord Jesus Christ personally God-man he saith That which was from the beginning which we have heard which we have seen which wee have looked upon and our hands have handled of the word of life Here note that John had heard and seen Christ looking upon him and handled Christ by being in his Company But your Idoll Christ your light your everlasting word that same tender part of man was never visible but invisible for you say it is within so that you nor any man else can say what it is except a whimsey But in the second verse Iohn complains himself further saying the life was manifested we have