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A65980 Antichrist's strongest hold overturned, or, The foundation of the religion of the people called Quakers bared and razed in a debate had with some of them in the castle at Lancaster and in an additional account of the light within ..., here also is shewed the occasion of their rise and growth, together with the right way of discovering their secret delusions ..., hereunto is annexed an appendix wherein their evil language is discovered ... / all which is published ... by J.W. Wigan, John. 1651 (1651) Wing W2096; ESTC R30213 71,934 77

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view as we finde the Lord hath enabled you but rejoyce to have this opportunity to set to our assent to what the Lord hath given forth by you and further desire you would permit it to the Press And these two things move us to desire this from you partly that we have not seen any thing in Print that hath met with their Master-piece as this doth as also the persons undertaking have one way or other had something of disadvantage as you have hinted in your Appendix nor have they owned those good things in them which ought to be owned and we can say we could wish not onely for our selves but for all that call upon the Name of our Lord Jesus that our conversations among men might more glorifie our Father in heaven And then the other reason is inasmuch as the Lord hath made you instrumental and given you utterance for us in this place where these people so far as we can understand had their first gathering into a company And if they may yet hear or others fear and that spirit of Antichrist discovered that the Lord alone may be exalted and our glorying may be together in the Cross of our Lord Jesus whom we may designe to exalt together though we be made but as a footstool to this end we have the desire of our hearts Excuse this unintended tedious Scribble and pass by the Errata's of it which are many and accept of our thankfulness to your for your pains and we hope we shall not be negligent to acknowledge the grace of God to you in this matter and continue to present you to the Lord in that liberty he hath given us of access to the Father through him in whom we are Your faithful Brethren though weak ones in the faith of him who is the Head of all things and true Heir W. L. J. R. J. S. R. S. Mo. 6 the 1 day 1664. Dearly Beloved in our Lord Jesus HAving with much satisfaction perused the Papers of your dispute at Lancaster with the people called Quakers we desire hereby heartily to bless the Lord on your behalf owning his singular goodness in that his gracious leading in this service of truth whereby beside your suffering and witness for your holy profession he called you to we now see the further ends of the Father in sending you to that place that even there where as we have heard this people had their first rise in this Nation they should receive so eminent a discovery and foyl having also by his good Spirit so directed and enabled you to deal with the very spirit and Principle and that with the principal of their party then prisoners with you whereby that mystery of iniquity and spirit of Antichrist is blessed be his Name very much detected and that not onely by the uncontrollable evidence of truth from the light of his holy Word but by that arrogant proud frothy raging ridiculous vain erring spirit so abundantly discovered all along herein from themselves which we intreat you for the Truths sake to make publike with all speed that word being worthy to be weighed by you for encouragement 2 Tim. 3. 8 9. where the Apostle prophetically speaking of such corrupt mindes reprobate concerning the faith like Jannes and Jambres resisting the truth saith for encouragement They shall proceed no further for their folly shall be made manifest as theirs also was the making manifest of whose folly being the way to stop●t the proceeding and growth which we are perswaded is as acceptable service as any of the Lords servants can engage in and the rather because under the specious pretences of humility self-denyal justice righteousness moderation patient suffering they have abundantly gained ground reputation to the spreading of their detestable errors by their fair words and feigned speeches have greatly deceived the hearts of many simple ones more especially in such an evil day as this wherein the pride vanity formality and apostacy of too too many professors of truth has appeared but we have a long time through grace been enabled to discern their deceivings and to see through the depth of their cheat and fully satisfyed that these following Scriptures evidently foretel them and that accordingly they are now sadly manifest to the fulfilling thereof Viz. 2 Cor. 11. 13 14. For such are false apostles deceitful workers transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ and no marvel for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light therefore it is no great thing if his ministers be also transformed as the ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works Matth. 24. 4 5. And Jesus said unto them Take heed that no man deceive you for many shall come in my Name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many And there shall arise false Christs and false Prophets and shall shew great signes and wonders insomuch that if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect Behold I have told you before 1 Tim. 4. 12. Now the Spirit speaks expresly that in the later days some shall depart from the saith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils speaking lyes in hypocrisie having their consciences seared with a hot iron 2 Pet. 2. 1. But there were false prophets also amongst the people even as there shall be false teachers among you who privily shall bring in damnable heresies even denying the Lord that bought them and bring upon themselves swift destruction and many shall follow their pernicious ways by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of 1 Joh. 4. 1 2 3. Beloved believe not every spirit but try the spirits whether they are of God because many false prophets are gone out into the world Hereby know ye the spirit of God every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is the spirit of Antichrist whereof you have heard that it shall come and even now already is in the world 2 Joh. 7 9. For many deceivers are entred into the world who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh this is a deceiver and an Antichrist Whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God c. Oh how visibly manifest are these Scriptures fulfilled in this generation now among us who under pretence of Christs Apostles Ministers of righteousness Angels of God men immediately inspired with the Spirit in the very state of perfection crying up Christ within they blaspheme traduce deny the man Christ Jesus the Son of God both in his name nature offices doctrine How do they introduce another Gospel Ministery Spirit other Ordinances another justification Salvation Resurrection another Heaven Hell then the Scriptures witness to Nay how many have called themselves Christ the Son of God and have undeniably these characters of the Antichristian spirit
ready to make good when we had debated the other which we were agreed upon as appeared by their own paper With much ado he was perswaded and I proceeded to proof premising first that the question was not Whether there be some light in every man that comes into the world nor Whether Christ doth lighten true believers with a saving light forasmuch as I denied not but did affirm That there was some light in every man that comes into the World and that true believers are lighted with a saving light but that which I had undertaken to prove by the Scriptures was That Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light My first argument was laid down thus Christ lightneth no man with a saving light but by his Spirit But Christ doth not give his Spirit to every man that comes into the world Therefore he doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light The first proposition is clear from the great promise of the New Covenant Isa 59. 21. As for me this is my Covenant with them saith the Lord my spirit that is upon thee and my words which I have put in thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy Seed nor out of the mouth of thy Seeds seed saith the Lord from henceforth for ever And from the promise of Christ John 14. 16 17. And I will pray the Father he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever even the Spirit of truth c. And from the end of his giving the Spirit namely to be a Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation unto them for the acknowledgement of Christ to enlighten the eyes of their understanding that they might know what is the hope of his calling and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the Saints Eph. 1. 17 18. and to lead them into all truth John 16. 18. Howbeit when the Spirit of truth is come he will guide you into all truth Neither is there any other way by which Christ doth infuse a saving Light into any man but by his Spirit 1 Cor. 2. 10 11 12. But God hath revealed them unto us by his spirit for his spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God even so the things of God knoweth no man but the spirit of God Now we have received not the spirit of the world but the spirit which is of God that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God It is onely by the unction of the Spirit received from Christ and no other way that men come to see and know these things 1 John 2. 20. But ye have an un●tion from the holy ●nd and ye know all things The assumption is proved from Jud. 19. Some are natural not having the spirit and from John 14. 17. Even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you And from Rom. 8. 9. But ye are not in the flesh but in the spirit if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you Now if any man have not the spirit of Christ he is none of his From all which Scriptures it is evident that some have not the Spirit of Christ Many other testimonies I had to produce for the further clearing of this proposition Viz. That Christ doth not give his Spirit to every man that comes into the world But here John Stubbs began to answer not denying either Proposition but as disliking the proof of the Assumption he spake to that Scripture Jude 19. and said Those that had not the Spirit were such as had gone in the way of Cain who had not obeyed but resisted the Spirit and so lost it Where by the way it may be observed That when a Scripture pincheth them they will not stick to give a meaning of it and such a one as may best suit their purpose But I replied That it could not be that those ever had the Spirit of Christ because they were 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sensual or natural for the same word is so rendered 1 Cor. 2. 14. who never had the Spirit but are opposed to the spiritual or regenerate man ver 15. And therefore it is said The natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned but the spiritual man discerneth all things Now the reason why one discerneth and the other cannot is because one viz. the spiritual man hath received the spirit the other viz. the nat●ral man hath not the spirit as appears 1 Cor. 2. 10 11 12. To this purpose as far as I can remember was my Reply And now notwithstanding our agreement that the debate might be orderly and without confusion and my desire that but one might speak at once great disorder began for whereas I expected to have reasoned with one or at least but one at once divers took liberty to speak one after another and sometimes many at once running from the matter in hand to other points and many asking new questions that it was hard for me to get convenient time to speak Besides they were so obstreporous especially George Fox and Margret Fell as many can testifie that they seemed to some when not able to elude the plain Scriptures brought for the proof of the Assertion yet resolved to word it for victory George Fox coming in about the time I was replying to John Stubbs gets up to a seat with one foot and to the table with the other whereas I and others were standing on the ground about the Table he did not at all take off the strength of those Scriptures alledged by me but his endeavour was to prove That every man that comes into the world hath the Spirit of Christ in the management whereof he used many under valuing and taunting expressions towards me and several times went from the Table with these words The least or meanest Babe will answer thee as if the presence of their Leader or rather Misleader was not needful and which is yet worse he did miserably wrest and abuse several Scriptures which he would have forced to have spoken in his dialect calling upon the people for attention as if his work had been more to preach to them than to answer my Arguments as many of the Scritures made use of by him as I ca● recollect I shall give an account of as also of my answers That which he would have made out was that every man that comes into the world even wicked men have the spirit of Christ one Screpture alledged by him or some other was 1. Cor. 12. 7. The manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withall My
be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost for the promise is unto you and your children and to all that are a far off even as many as the Lord our God shall call And Jo. 38. 39. He that believeth on me as the Scripture hath said out of his Belly shall flow Rivers of living water But this spake he of the Spirit which they that believe on him should receive for the Holy Ghost was not yet given because that Jesus was not yet glorified so that it is apparent in several respects that this Scripture proves not their assertion Further it was said that Balaam was a wicked man and yet he had the spirit of God and saw the starr of Jacob Numb 24. therefore every man that comes into the world hath the spirit of Christ Ans It is one thing to have the spirit of the Son which is the great promise of the new Covenant Isa 50. 21. dwelling in a man 2 Tim. 1. 14. and another thing to have the spirit of God come upon a man at some particular time and for some particular work thus it was with Balaam and thus with Saul and his messengers 1 Sam 19. 20. 21. 23. but this proves not that every man that comes into the world hath the sprit of Christ for the Scripture doth not say that these men had the spirit of God before it came upon them only these Scriptures do shew that God can and sometimes doth by the power of his spirit impress upon a wicked man and make him to declare some future glorious things for his own praise and his peoples comfort as Dan. 4. 1. 2. 3. Joh. 11. 50. 51. may be seen neither is it said in that place Numb 24. 17. that Balaam saw the starr of Jacob but I shall see him but not now I shall behold him but not nigh but when every eye shall see him Rev. 1. 17. but it will not follow hence that he had the faith of Job to see him his Redeemer Job 19. 25. 27. nor the spirit of the mediator the man Christ Jesus 1 Tim. 2 5. which only dwels in believers 2 Tim. 1. 14. that good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us no more then the Angel of the Lord that spake in the Asse with mans voyce Numb 22. 28. 2 Pet. 2. 16. dwelt in the Asse though that is utterly false which this people hath published in their Paper viz. that he was a Baptist which said that Balaam had no more spirit then his Horse Some of them asked what was that which caused Judas to bring the money again and made him repent implying as I apprehend them that it must needs be the spirit of Christ Ans There is a light and law in every man that convinces and reproves of sin except of not believing in Christ Rom. 2. 14 15. for when the Gentiles which have not the Law do by nature the things contained in the Law these having not the Law are a Law unto themselves which shew the work of the Law written in their hearts their concscience also bearing witness and their thoughts the mean while accusing or excusing one another and this made Judas bring the money again c. But this light or Law in every man is not the spirit of Christ mentioned Joh. 16. 7. 8. which was promised to be sent to reprove or convince the world of the sin of not believing in Christ c. for he was not come while as Christ was not ascended John 16. 7. 13. but of this light and Law in every man I shall speak more after the rest of my Arguments to prove my assertions are laid down By these briefe Answers it may appear with what little success these Scriptures were brought to prove that every man even the wicked and unregenerate have the spirit of Christ and that notwithstanding all that was said the plain and positive Scriptures brought brought by me to prove the contrary viz. That all men have not the Spirit of Christ do remain firm ●and ●nshaken there being nothing more plain than Christ's own words John 14. 17. That the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth And the Apostles Rom. 8. 9. Jude 19. That some are in the flesh are sensual not having the Spirit of Christ As I could get liberty other Arguments were propounded for the proof of that which I had undertaken to make good viz. That Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light which are as follow though in that confused Assembly they could not be so orderly and with that enlargement urged as they are here set down Whom Christ enlightens with a saving Light into their hearts he causeth the Light of the glorious Gospel of Christ to shine to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ according to the testimony of Paul 2 Cor. 4. 6. For God who commanded the light to shine out of darkness hath shined in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ He brings life and immortality to light through the Gospel 2 Tim. 1. 10. And he doth no otherwayes manifest the Grace of God our Reconciliation Peace and Salvation but by the light of the glorious Gospel shining in our hearts and he that wants this Gospel-light hath no saving-light but is lost 2 Cor. 4. 3. But if our Gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost But Christ doth not cause this light of the glorious Gospel to shine in the heart of every man that comes into the world for the Gospel is hid to some and the light of it doth not shine in their hearts as the Scripture testifies 2 Cor. 4. 3 4. But if our Gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost in whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ who is the Image of God should shine unto them Therefore Christ doth not enlighten every one that comes into the world with a saving light Whom Christ enlighteneth with a saving light to them is given an understanding to know the Father 1 John 2. 13 Ye have known the Father And the Son 1 John 5. 20. And we know the Son of God is come and hath given us an understanding that we may know him that is true And the Spirit John 14. 17. Even the spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but ye know him c. And the things that are freely given them of God 1 Cor. 2. 10 12. But God hath revealed them uuto us by his spirit Now we have received not the spirit of the world but the spirit
which is of God that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God So Matth. 13. 11. He answered and said unto them viz. his Disciples Because it is given unto you to know the myst●ries of the Kingdom of Heaven but to them it is not given That Light only is saving which discovers these things to which agrees that saying of Christ John 17. 3. And this is life eternal that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent But there are some who know not the Father nor the Son John 16. 3. And these things will they do unto you because they have not known the Father nor me Matth. 11. 27. No man knoweth the Son but the Father neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him Nor the Spirit John 14. 17. Even the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him nor the things of the spirit 1 Cor. 2. 14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned They have not the Spirit as was proved before therefore they cannot discern spiritual things 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 spiritually Yea further they cannot discern nor know these things because their understanding is darkned Ephes 4. 18. and as to these things they are meer darkness Ephes 5. 8. Yea the light that is in them is darkness according to the words of Christ Matth. 6. 23. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness how great is that darkness And Christ himself gives another reason why they cannot know these things Matth. the 13. the 11th Because it is not given to them It is given to you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven but to them it is not given And in Matth 11. 25. he tells us plainly it is because they are hid from them And at that time Jesus answered and said I thank thee O Father Lord of Heaven and Earth because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes Therefore Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light To such as Christ enlightens with a saving Light he also gives a spiritual life such he quickens regenerates and makes new Creatures such as the Light is such is the Life in men Joh. 1. 4. And the Life was the Light of men If the Light be saving that is effectually and eventually saving it quickens and regenerates and makes a new Creature according to that in 2 Cor. 3. 18. But we all with open face beholding as in a Glass the glory of the Lord are changed into the same Image from glory to glory as by the Spirit of the Lord this saving Light and Life and given together as John 8. 12. Thou spake Jesus again unto them saying I am the light of the world he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life A man cannot have a saving Light to see the Kingdom of God except he be born again John 3. 3. Jesus answered and said unto him Verily verily I say unto thee Except a m●n be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God And hence it is that Christ is a live-making Spirit 1 Cor. 15. 45. because who soever is enlightened with a saving Light is also quickened together with Christ Eph. 21 5. You hath he quickened c even when ye were dead in sins hath he quickened us together with Christ But Christ doth not quicken and regenerate every man that comes into the world every one is not a new Creature some are born of the flesh John 3. 6. and are in the flesh Rom. 8. 8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God some are dead in sin wherein they walk according to the course of this World Eph. 2. 1 2. and have not life 1 John 5. 12. He that hath not the Son hath not life yea some do dye in their sins John 8. 24. I said therefore unto you that ye shall dye in your sins for if ye believe not that I am he ye shall dye in your sins Therefore Christ doth not lighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light Whom Christ enlightens with a saving Light to them he also gives Faith the words of Christ are plain John 12. 46. I am come a Light into the world that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness Mark where there is no Faith there is an abiding in darkness and so no saving Light Faith is the Organ of the soul to receive and let in a saving Light An unbelieving soul is a dark and ignorant soul hence it is that Christ who is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the beginner of Faith Heb. 12. 2 when he gives his Spirit to illuminate the understanding and to fill the soul with his marvellous light he doth also by the same Spirit give and work faith for it is his gift Eph. 2. 8. whereby the soul is capacitated to receive him as a glorious light to dwell in the heart And thus Christ by his Spirit and Faith and no other way dwells in the heart irradiating the whole soul with the bright beams of his glorious light according to these Scriptures John 14. 16 17. I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you Eph. 2. 22. In whom you also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit Eph. 3. 17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith But every man that comes into the world hath not Faith 2 Thes 3. 2. For all men have not Faith none believe but such as are ordained to eternal life Acts 13. 48. And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed None can come to or believe on Christ but such as the Father draws John 6. 44. No man can come to me except the Father which sent me draw him nor hath every man that comes into the world Christ dwelling in him some are without him Eph. 2. 12. That at that time viz. when they were Gentiles in the flesh ye were without Christ in the world Some have him not 1 John 5. 12. He that hath not the Son hath not life In a word beleevers only have Christ dwelling in them John 6. 56. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I in him Therefore Christ doth not enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light To these last Arguments I remember not any thing brought by way of answer to weaken any one proof but that which was their last and chiefest Refuge was that Text John 1.
perish but have everlasting life The knowledge of this Law sprung not up with mankind in nature it was not written in the heart of natural man as a thing just and equal Adam's Light onely shewed him what was just to be done and when he had sinned convinced him and passed sentence upon him and there left him in his misery not affording any direction or help for his recovery which made him fear and hide himself Gen. 3. 10. Then was the great fountain of free Grace opened and by the occasion of the transgression and misery of man this Law of Faith was added and founded upon Christ in that Gracious Promise Gen. 3. 15. The seed of the woman shall break the head of the Serpent this Law is not natural but supernatural not springing up together with man as that of works but added to shew the exceeding riches of the Grace of God in his kindness to poor sinners through Jesus Christ Eph. 2. 7. which is as farr above the reach of a natural man to know as the Heavens are above the Earth yea as the thoughts of God are above the thoughts of man Though vain man would be wise yet he is born like a wild Asses Colt Job 11. 12. It s above the reach of his reason to conceive how Faith in a crucified Christ should be the way to save a sinner and hence it is that the preaching of a Christ crucified for the obedience of Faith is to the Greekes soolishness 1 Cor. 1. 23. he is not able by all his Candle-light to discover this misterie of the hidden wisdom of God according to that divine Testimonie 1 Cor. 2. 9 14. Eye hath not seen nor Eare heard neither have entred into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for them that love him but the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God for they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them because they are Spiritually discerned the truth hereof will yet further appear by considering that Querie Acts 2. 37. Men and brethren what shall we do and that of the Gaoler Acts 16. 30. Sirs what must I do to be saved which do clearly argue that these men now prict in their hearts and wounded in their consciences had no sufficient Light nor understanding to direct themselves to a remedie and therefore they ask What shall we do And as this Light cannot discover the Law of Faith so it cannot convince any man that his not believing in Christ is a sin this is the proper work of the Spirit the Comforter as the Scripture testifies John 16. 7 8 9. Nevertheless I tell you the truth it is expedient that I go away for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you but if I depart I will send him unto you and when he is come he will reprove or convince the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment of sin because they believe not in me c. In as much then as it is clearly manifest that the natural man with all his Light is unable to reach these great misteries this gives occasion to speak somewhat briefly of that light which can reveal and make them manifest which will be found to be a Light as far exceeding the Light of the natural man in glory as the ministration of the Gospell exceeds the ministration of the Law in glory 2 Cor. 3. 11. For if that which is done away be glorious how much more that which remaineth is glorious as the things discovered to wit the glorious Gospell of Christ the knowledg of the glory that is the goodness and mercy of God in the Face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4. 6. are more glorious so is the Light discovering them hence it is called the marvellous Light of God 1. Pet. 2. 9. and it is no other then the Light of Christ Jesus as Mediator between God and man 1 Tim. 2. 5. which doth irradiate the soul of man with the knowledg of these great misteries agreeable to that of the Psalmist Psal 36. 9. In thy Light we shall see Light He is given to be a Light of the Gentiles Acts 13. 47. He only being in the Bosome of the Father can reveal him according as himself doth witness Math. 11. 27. Neither knoweth any man the Father save the Son and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him Joh. 1. 18. No man hath seen God at any time the only begotten Son which is in the Bosome of the Father he hath declared Him The invisible and inaccessable God coming down in the man Christ Jesus which is the great misterie of godliness God manifest in the flesh 1 Tim. 3. 16. makes all the glory of his goodness and mercy to appear in the Face of Jesus Christ as he said to Moses Exo. 33. 19. I will make all my goodness to pass before thee hence he is said to be the brightness of his glory Heb. 113. now as Christ is the shining forth of the Fathers glory so it is he only that shines into the hearts of all that believe on him the Light of the konwledge of the glory of God as in the first creation God made all things by the word so in the new creation or new creature all things wrought by the Word made flesh who is the one Mediator between God and man 1 Tim. 2. 5. and the great Agent by which Christ workes is his Holy Spirit that Spirit which the world never saw nor can receive Joh. 14. 17. By this Spirit sent forth he doth reveal the misterious things of the Gospel even the hidden wisdom of God concerning Christ and the new creature which was not written in the heart of man nor could be known by the wisdom of this world as it is evident in 1 Cor. 2. 9 10 11 12. Eye hath not seen nor Ear heard neither have entred into the heart of man the things which God hath prepared for them that love him but God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit for the Spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God even so the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit of God now we have received not the Spirit of the world but the Spirit which is of god that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God thus the same Apostle saith that his knowledg in the misterie of Christ was revealed unto him by the Spirit Eph. 3. 4 5. Christ doth no other way inlighten the eye of the understanding but by his Spirit Eph. 1. 17. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ the Father of Glory may give unto you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledg of him the eyes of your understanding being inlightned c. This is that Spirit that teacheth all things John 14. 26. that guides into all truth Joh. 16. 13. And because none but new creatures can receive this new
the way to others and knew it not my self It becomes persons that say they have received the annointing from the holy one even the same Spirit that was in the Prophets and Apostles and gave forth the holy Scriptures always to speak forth the words of truth and soberness When thou calledst me a deceiver I did not say I was offended nor did I give cause for thee to mention this word in thy paper But this I demanded of thee and do still That thou make it to appear whom I have deceived or wherewith I have deceived any or else there will be little of truth or soberness found in thy saying And as for thy saying I taught the way to others and knew it not my self by which thou wouldst have proved me a deceiver it will be hard for thee or any of thy friends to find truth in it for no man can teach others to know that which he himself knows not and therefore I say as thou writest thy words are at best improper And whereas thou writest that I may read how the Apostle said some preached Christ who was the way the truth and the life and yet such who so preached him knew him not but were false Apostles transforming themselves as the Ministers of Righteousness I would have thee soberly to consider whether thou hast dealt truly and faithfully with the Apostle in relating his own words And tell me where thou readest That the Apostle said That some preached Christ who was the way the truth and life and yet knew him not It 's true the Apostle speaks of false Apostles deceitful workers transforming themselves into the Apostles of Christ but these preached not the true Christ the way the truth and the life but as the Ministers of Satan they rather taught another Jesus and another Gospel than the Apostles had taught and as I am willing to take a ●aution from thee or any other man that gives it in love and meekness so I would have thee and the rest of thy friends in fear and meekness to consider whether ye set not up another Christ than the Apostle preached As for thy 24 queries I shall not satisfie thee or any other queriest to answer their questions which tend rather to strife than edification though I have in readiness to answer thee or any other man that shall in love ask me a reason of the hope that is in me And though I think it not meet at this time to answer all thy queries yet whereas thou askest Whether Christ doth not enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light I answer That the Light wherewith every man is lighted that comes into the world is not a saving Light and this I shall through the strength of Christ be ready to maintain against thee or any of thy friends who hold the contrary where and when a meeting may be had in a peaceable and quiet way and before compe●ent Witnesses As for thy threatning to stick thy paper upon the door I value it not but would have thee seriously to consider whether that expression proceeded from the holy Spirit This is all at present from Thy Friend Jo. Wigan 1. M. 5 d. 1663-64 A second Letter from Tho. Curwen The next morning being the sixt day of the first month the following Letter was brought to my hand with this inscription For John Wigans John Wigans Whereas I sent thee a few Queries to answer but thou seemes to have slighted and passed by all except one that is to say the first Querie whether Christ doth enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving light And thy answer is That every man which comes into the world is not inlightned with a saving light And this thou will maintain against me or any of my friends who hold the contrary when and where a meeting may he had in a peaceable way before competent witnesses and this is to let thee understand that I and some of my friends with me if the Lord will doth intend to give thee a visit tomorrow about the first hour or second in thy Chamber to treate about this above mentioned both with thee and all who is of thy ju●gment that may come to thee but yet I let thee know this cannot serve for all my Queries for I intend to set the Paper upon the dore according to my word from thy friend Thomas Curwen This sixth day of the first Month. According to his word his Queries were the same day set upon the Hall door though he had no regard to make good his word concerning me nor yet to clear himself from the wrong done to the Apostle who no where useth such words as he fathers upon him In the evening therefore of the same day I writ the following Answer to his second Letter Thomas Curwen In thy seccond Paper which was brought to my hands this day whether with a purpose to disturb is best known to thy self Thou dost not make good thy word spoken concerning me nor yet acknowledg thy mistake therein nor the abuse done by thee to the Apostle however I am more inclined to passe by the weaknesses of others then by multiplying words as were easie upon such an advantage to occasion more strife Thou tels me that thou and some of thy friends do intend to give me a visit to morrow about the first or seccond hour in my Chamber to treat about the fift Querie I am willing to meet thee and any of thy friends to treat in a spirit of love and meekness about the said point and after that about any other wherein we differ but thou art mistaken if thou thinkest that I shall leave it to thee to appoint time and place at thy pleasure and therefore thou wast over confident to say no more of it to nominate my Chamber the day and hour except I had invited thee or agreed thereto know therefore that I take no notice of nor shall I observe any meeting till upon discourse with thee or some of thy friends we have mutually agreed about a place and such a day as my friends can come upon to morrow they cannot when this is done bring whom thou wilt for truth which we all pretend to seek after neither fears multitudes nor great words as for thy setting ●hy Paper upon the door thou hadst done some right if thou hadst set my Letter by it but thy practice doth favour in several circumstances of a fleshly spirit as I can shew at better leisure and will reflect more upon thy self and friends then where thou didst intend it and if I be disposed that way it will not be difficult to answer thee in thy own kind but God hath called us to peace and I am taught to study to live peaceably with all men and further then I am provoked to appear in the defence of truth shall endeavour to leave off contention before it be medled with Prov. 17. 14.
man the Hebrew Root 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 formavit is the same in all the three places importing that the things formed are not God that formed them the like may be gathered from other words which signifie to create or make the Law of God written in mans heart is begotten of God proceeds from him is his off-spring as all lights whatsoever are from him and lead to him and thence it is that he is called the Father of Lights Jam. 117. but it is not the Father of Lights who is an infinite and incomprehensible Fountain of perfection and glory but a borrowed ray or beam of Divine Glory confined to its Orb and limited to its uses as all other lights are beyond which it cannot go And thus the Scripture seems frequently to distinguish between God and his Law as Psal 1. 2. But his delight is in the Law of the Lord. Psal 37. 31. The Law of God is in his heart And Psal 40. 8. Thy Law is in my heart 2 Chron. 12. 1. it 's said of Rehoboam He forsook the Law of the Lord. In all which places there is a clear distinction between the Law or Rule given to man and the Author of it from all which it is evident that the Law written in mans heart is not God And thus have we an account of the fullest light that was in man before his fall The sum whereof is this He had the light of a clear understanding to know his Creator and his whole will contained in that Law which was written in his heart and the Light of Reason to see how just and equitable it was to yeeld perfect obedience to his will and thus he could look his God in the face and come into his presence with delight and serve him with gladness But all the Light that man had in his Created integrity whether set up in his Spirit or in the Law implanted in him was not sufficient to manifest or make known unto him a Redeemer for as in that state he had no need of a Redeemer so his Light had neither commission nor power to make one known to him even as it was with the Angels which never fell they having no need of redemption notwithstanding all their light had never known the Redeemer but by means of the Church which stands in need of him Eph. 3. 10. To the intent that now unto the Principalities and Powers in heavenly places might be known by the Church the manifold wisdom of God so 1 Pet. 1. 12. Which things the Angels desire to look into And as their Light so the Light which Adam had before his fall was so limited and bounded that it could not extend it self then nor now if any had as great a measure as he had further then to shew how man being perfectly obedient to the whole will of his Creator might live for ever in the happy fruition of him as such Since the fall of man this Candle of the Lord in him that is his Reason and Understanding is become exceeding dim in comparison of what it was before as the Scripture testifies Eph. 4. 18. Having the understanding darkened being alienated from the Life of God through the ignorance that is in them because of the blindness of their heart In the fall the Devil got into this Candle the mind of man whereof he hath ever since kept possession and will keep it still except a stronger than he cast him out he is the Spirit that works in the children of disobedience and so blinds their minds and darkens their eyes that they cannot look up to God or discern the things that concern his glory and their own happiness but their Candle doth mostly give light downward to things below Eph. 2. 2. Wherein in time past ye walked ac●ording to the course of this world according to the Prince of the Power of the Air the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience 2 Cor. 4. 4. In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ who is the image of God should shine unto them Insomuch that it may be said of every man in the fall how wise soever he may conceit himself to be That he is a vain empty man born like a wild Asses Colt Job 11. 12. and that he is in respect of man in his Innocency but a beast in regard of his ignorance man that was made like unto God hath made himself by his fall like unto a beast according to that of Solomon Eccles 3. 18. I said in my heart concerning the estate of the sons of men That God might manifest them and that they might see that they ● themselves are beasts Yet is not this Light wholly extinct for then he could not exist but would cease to be a man where there is no spirit of a man there is no man So likewise the Law written in mans heart which at first was plainly to be read is not so oblitterated but that there is sufficient left to render God righteous in his proceedings against men who do hold that measure of the knowledge of God which is left in them in unrighteousness and to leave them inexcusable before him in the day of the revelation of the righteous Judgement of God Rom. 2. 5 6. I say there is so much of the Eternal Power and God-head manifested and made known to men by the things that are made that such as like not to retain God in their knowledge nor to glorifie him so far as they do know him shall be left without excuse in the day when God shall render to every man according to his deeds according to Rom. 1. 18 19 20 21. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness because that which may be known of God is manifest in them or to them for God hath shewed it unto them for the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his Eternal Power and Godhead so that they are without excuse Because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God c. In asmuch therefore as there is a Light remaining in every man since the fall though far inferiour to that which was in man in his innocency I shall endeavour in the next place further to declare these two things 1. What this remaining Light can do or what the utmost uses of it are And 2. What it cannot do There is a fourfold use of the Light that is in every man since the fall 1. To make manifest 2. To direct 3. To convince 4 To feel after God First This Light as the Scripture testifies searcheth all the inward parts of the belly Prov. 20. 27. The Spirit of a man is the Candle of the Lord
means the more to amuse the people and beget in them an opinion of me as some hainous offender Surely methinks they should not be so weak as to imagine that these unchristian calumniations should pass with wiser men for a sufficient refutation of what I have writ And if hereby they think to affright me they are greatly mistaken for I fear nothing that they or any others can do to hurt my unstained reputation amongst men I shall therefore pass by many biting false scornful jeering and frothy expressions in their published Papers and onely mention some few of those censures judgings cursings which like a floud they have sent out against me with their names who have published their Papers or sent them open Such as have sent Sealed Letters their names are concealed Thomas Gurwen in a Paper writes thus John Wigans what a rage and chafe art thou in and how theu swellest and fretieth Oh the plagues of God will be thy portion and be poured out upon thy head Thou was so full of rage and bitterness and envie and malice in thy heart Thou hast raked and scraped a deal of chaff and rabling stuff which came out of the bottomless pit In another Paper A filthy dreamer who vomits up thy own shame Thy Book will be thy utter overthrow for it 's no more to me tho●● chaff and dirt under my feet In another Paper Thy ill-bred behaviour thy ill-bred sawcie tongue unnurtured and unbred and besides thy sawcie language Thy hypocrisie and sawcie tongue and unmanner liness and ill breeding Whether this was endited by Thomas Curwen Husbandman or dictated by George Fox Shoo-maker I know not but when he hath shewed as he hath not in what particulars I have manifested ill-bred behaviour sawcie unnurtured unmannerly language I may possibly learn better but never in this mans School Let the Wise judge what manner are most likely to be learned from this master of Cacologie Margaret Fell in one Letter Thou manifests thy gainsaying spirit Core-like gainsaying and resisting of the truth as Jannes and Jambres did that is to say the light with the which every man is enlightned is not the light of Christ nor a saving light Thou art without God in the world Thou hast manifested thy self to be out of the first step that leads to Christianity and art a minister of darkness Thy foul sinful prayers are abominable They fleshly performances are but grass and chaff All thy rotten bypocritical performances Thou hast committed sacriledge and hast blasphemed against the holy Spirit of God which never will be forgiven thee in this world nor in that which is to come Thou art under it and it remains upon thee for ever That foul and unclean spirit that thou art of Thou manifests thy dark sottish spirit In a second Letter Thou begins with a lye and ends with the devil and sets John Wigan next to him as if thou wast his head-Vicegerent but certainly thou art a great zealot for him All such unclean spirits as thine is Thy black defiled heart and conscience Thou hast manifested thy self to be a childe of darkness What hast thou to do to take the Name of God and Christ in thy mouth Thou enemy of God Thou art a thief Thou are not a believer of Christ Thou art yet in thy sins Thou art a man separated from God Thou never knewest nothing of the worship of God Thy envious poysonous heart Thou art under the chain and it is over thee A fighter against God and his truth and the reward thou wilt be sure to have And never look that that which is cursed will be blest Thou art accursed and no other portion can thou have and this is Scripture and truth to thee In a third Letter Thou can do something in writing a Book of thy own dreams and thy imaginations and brain-studies and telling of lyes which thou hatcheth out of darkness Thou art a meer Sot and Ignoramus Thy evil unclean heart Thy malicious dark envious spirit Thy weakness inability and ignorance in the things of God I having told her that if she called the light that that is in every man that comes into the world Christ she set up an Idol and if she worshipped that light as Christ the Redeemer she was an idolate● She answers thus I never heard such words but from an idolater and a blasphemer against God and Christ Thou art an enemy of God thou art worse then the Jews Thou art a fit man to joyn with the Turk to set up Mahomet O thou infidel O thou childe of darkness Speaking of Christ she saith I am a witness for him against all such Antichrists and deceivers and blasphemers as thou art Thou art a minister of the night and of darkness in the Apostacie Thou art a night-bird The curse and the judgement that 's written therein speaking of the Scripture Christ Jesus and the Apostle hath pronounced it upon thee Thou art the man Thou hast lost God and Christ Because I asked this Question viz. What Parish-priest in England had got more money with his tongue then George Fox since he was Journeyman-Shoomaker in Manchester she saith Thou art a wicked ungodly impudent lyer Thou lyer A proud disdainful spirit A heathenish spirit which torments thee and many more such night-owls as thou art Thou wicked lyer The devil the God of this world is thy God and thou hast done what thou canst in opposing the Quakers to get him glory Thou hast a great measure of the spirit of envie malice and cruelty and bloud Thus far are her expressions whom Thomas Curwen affirms to be so vertuous a woman that I am not worthy to take her name in my mouth Another writes thus Thy vain hypocritical prayers and formal preachings and Chains offerings Thou art darker and darker and will be to thy dying day unless thou come to believe undoubtedly that Christ enlightens every man that comes into the world with a saving light You have been and are hypocrites Thy blasphemies against the everlasting truth Another writes thus Thou opposes the truth and manifests thy self to be an enemy of Christ the light an opposer of the Gospel which is the power of God of which power thou art ignorant and a stranger unto Thou art gone into rebellion and not onely ignorant of the true God and Christ but also art become an enemy and opposer of him by deceit and deceivableness Thou hardens thy heart and stiffens thy neck against the Lord and heaps up wrath against the day of wrath Another writes thus Thou hardens thy self against the truth more and more It hath been evidently manifested that thou art an enemy to God and his truth Thou art in thy will worship and carnal ordinances as Baptism and bread and wine Thou art vainly puft up with thy fleshly minde and art in the steps of the false Prophets of old and the false Apostles in the days of Christ In a Paper from William Holden
foretold by John upon them denying not onely the doctrine of Christ but Christ himself to be come in the flesh under pretence of his being come in their flesh and have eminently manifested themselves to be the sons of Hymeneus that blasphemer who said the resurrection was past already overthrowing the faith of some which Hymenean doctrine was attested not many days since by some of their number to one of us in a Conference with them and that before several witnesses saying The dead bodies that lie in the graves are not to rise again neither are we to expect any other resurrection heaven hell judgement then what is within us and past upon us here To whom it was replied that then their faith and hope was vain and they were yet in their sins and in a damnable estate and why then did they suffer if the dead rise not and that such doctrine undeniably led to sensuality to eat drink and play c. wholly razing out all principles both of morality and Christianity which is well known to be their principle though the cunning among them subtilly gloss it over knowing what offence it generally gives Oh that the poor deluded sincere among them might see the gulph they are plunged into and that your endeavour might be blest to the opening their eyes and undeceiving them Surely if that one Scripture was weighed by them it might be of use That men may give their bodies to be burnt and all their goods to the poor and profit not and be but as sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal and that is the principle from which and the end whereto every work is done that renders it acceptable And Oh that this may be blest to keep all upright hearts from falling into this ditch It is the express word of our Lord Go not after them neither follow them Prov. 19. 27. Cease my son to hear the instruction that causeth to erre from the ways of knowledge Surely principles spirits and doctrines are to be weighed and tryed as well as conversation and them would these seeming Angels appear Devils for Satan can come forth as an angel of light But how do they rage and like the waves of the sea foaming out their own shame when brought to the Word for tryal which is no small discovery of their spirit this is one of the tryals God has suffered to come upon his people as Deut. 13. 3. to prove whether they will love the Lord their God with all their heart and all their soul How long hath the Pope by all his power and policie endeavoured to get the Bible from Professors and not prevailed but this spiritual Antichrist doth it speedily and effectually But let grace be magnified that keeps any out of their snares and let it be seriously laid to heart that so many are snared and taken in their net And lastly since Singularity and Conversation is so taking to propagate Errour and such damnable Errour too how should it provoke the children of Truth that prize and would promote it to press more after an excellent conversation that the poor world seeing their good works viz. the humility love patience meekness zeal courage temperance holiness wisdom gravity may glorifie their heavenly Father And let such a foolish people shame and provoke his people therein at this day Phil. 4. 8. and as you well observe let the good in them be owned and imitated and their evil detected and avoided And that the good Lord who has so far guided and blest you herein may still continue so to do to the advancement of his glory and furtherance of truth as you have designed and we heartily desire is and shall be the prayer of Your unworthy Brethren fellow●labourers and Companions with you in the Faith Kingdom and Patience of our Lord Jesus J. D. N. S. London this 10 day of the 1 month 1665 The Reader is desired before he peruse these books to amend with his pen these errors and mistakes of the Press smaller errors as of adding or substracting letters or mistaking the stops the sence will somwhat help him in PAge 14. line 30. after these words in that day add Neh. 9. 30. p. 17. l. 2. for u and nshaken read and unshaken p. 20. l. 3. for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 read 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 25. l. 32. for adopted read adapted p. 26. l. 8 read a law p. 30 l. 32. for shall read should p. 31. l. 18. read that he is guiltie p. 40. l. 4. read all things are wrought p. 43. l. 2. add after these words the word was with God and the word was God p. 47. l. 20. for thankfulness read faithfulness p. 63. l. 4. read seriously consider To Randolph Hunter and Thomas Hardy Deputy-Gaolers of the Castle at Lancaster to be by them communica●ed to any who may desire satisfaction concerning the difference between the people called Quakers and J. W. Loving ●riends HAving peru●ed a Paper published and put into the hands of one or both of you by the Quakers so called touching a dispute between them and the Baptists at Lancaster Castle and finding it confused partial and in some passages untrue t●nding to the reproach of truth and the swallowing up the simple in errors for the vindication of the one and out of tender compassion towards the other I have given forth the following Relation whereby the sober and unbiassed Christian may perceive that I was provoked to the debate as I am to this account by the forementioned paper and the high boastings of some of this people since that meeting Though I have more to say in defence of the truth I plead for then was mentioned in that debate yet I only set down such Arguments as were then propounded though here more distinctly and fully then the confusion of that meeting would allow As for the detecting of their personal carriages I mention nothing but what was first publikely exprest or acted by them I the rather do it that they may consider and take shame to themselves if peradventure God may give them repentance and that others may be warned to take heed of that spirit that sends forth such bitter and unsavoury fruits And that the simple and tender-hearted among them may be reclaimed from the error of their way I have given an additional account of the Light in every man shewing according to my measure received from the Lord what it is and the utmost use of it with a particular explication of several Scriptures especially John 1. 9. Furthermore if any of them shall yet persist to maintain their errors here you will find an offer further to debate the difference betwixt us before any person in the Commission of Peace Lastly l●st any should account me an enemy to every thing this people hold and practice thereupon should trample upon that which is good and commendable together with their errors here is an account of several particulars allowable
in them for which I am ready to suffer as well as they If the whole seem too tedious for your perusal which indeed is much larger then was first intended by the Marginal notes you are directed to the several branches of the Discourse and so you may either read all or that part wherein you chiefly desire satisfaction ●o Wigan 3d M. 10. d. 1664. A true Relation of the occasion and manner of a debate held in the Castle at Lancaster the 17th day of the first Month vulgo March 1663-64 between J. W. and George Fox John Stubs and many others of the People called Quakers about the Light within Together with true Copies of divers Letters and other Writings which passed between them and me Also an Additional Account of the Light that is in every man shewing what it is what it can do and what it cannot do wherein Henry Wood and others may find that which answers their Queries HAving been Prisoner at the aforesaid place divers weeks upon the 23. of the 12 th Month commonly called February I was put into a Chamber near unto many of the aforesaid people being also prisoners their way and mine leading through a common Hall we passed by one another peaceably about 12. dayes viz. till the 5th day of the next Month upon which day one Thomas Curwen said unto me as I quietly passed through the Hall Friend leave off thy deceiving the people thou art a Deceiver My answer was mild to this purpose Saist thou so consider well what thou hast said and whether thou canst make good thy word and tell me as I come back whom I have deceived or wherewith I have deceived any or how thou canst prove me a Deceiver As I turned from him he further uttered these words Thou teachest the way and knowest it not thy self By which I supposed he would have made good his assertion viz. That I was a deceiver At my return I told him and some other of his Friends That I looked upon his censure to be very rash and g●oundless and that little of truth would be found in his saying That I taught the way and knew it not my self inasmuch as it is not possible for any man to teach that which he knoweth not But instead of proving what he had said he passed more censures upon me as That I was a stranger and that he knew my voi●e to be voice of a stranger Likewise William Wilson another of them used some harsh expressions towards me I having said They neglected some Ordinances of Christ as Baptism and breaking of bread He told me I upheld beggarly rudiments So I left them and went to my Chamber The same day towards evening a Letter was brought to me by one of these people subscribed with the Name of Tho. C●rwen a true Copy whereof followeth Friend John Wiggans whereas thou was offended because I called thee a Deceiver and said thou teached the way to others and knew'st it not thy self Although the words seem to be improper to thee yet thou maist read how the Apostle said Some preached Christ who was the way the truth and the life and yet such who so preached him knew him not but were alse Apostles transforming themselves as the Ministers of Righteousness And now I would have thee mind whether thou thy self be not in their footsteps who thus preached Christ and so a Dec●iver And answer me these Queries as followeth 1. Whether thy way never fell 2. Where be all the daubers 3. Whether all the Ministers of Adams house in the fall daubed not with untempered morter 4. Whether or no while a man 's upon the earth he shall be made free from the body of sin and death while he is on this side the grave 5. And whether Christ doth enlighten every man that comes into the world with a saving Light 6. Whether is bread and wine Christ the substance 7. And how long hast thou taken bread and wine in remembrance of Christs death till he come 8. And whether or no when he is come thou wilt take it in remembrance of him 9. And which is the nearest to take a thing in remembrance of his de●th or to come into his death 10. And whether or no thou thinkest to come any nearer to Christ than to take bread and water in remembrance of him 11. And whether or no dost thou think to come any nearer to Christs death than to take bread and wine in remembrance of his death and so keep alive in the old nature And is not this the deceiver 12. Hast thou known the death the pangs and the sorrow And art thou become a fool for Christs sake And is the wisdom of the world foolishness to thee And in what place buriest thou thy own 13. And how comes thou to receive that which is foolishness to the world and how wast thou wakened out of sleep and when did the grave open and when did the Prisoner shew himself forth 14. And when did the tongue of the dumb sing 15. And when was the tongue of the first-born silent 16. And when wast thou come to thy wits end 17. And how often hast thou watered thy couch 18. And what is the tongue of the learned 19. And what is the gray hairs 20. And what is it that Antichrist and the false Prophets r●vened from and where was it 21. And when did the keeper of the house tremble and the strong man bow himself 22. And hast thou the same power and spirit to baptize and give bread and wine as the Apostles had and hast thou heard the voice of Christ as they did 23. And seeing thou takest offence at me because I called thee a Deceiver what is the true way and where is it and whether all mankind be enlightened by it and whether it be in man or out 24. And whether or no thou hast seen it or heard it or heard the voice of God or seen his shape Answer me these Queries in a Scripture way in writing and bring forth thy deeds to the light or else I do intend to stick a Copy of them on the door to morrow From thy Friend Thomas Curwen 1. M. 5. d 1663 4. Directed For John Wiggans These Having perused this Letter and perceiving the advantage that was sought by limiting so short a time for the answering his queries and by threatning to stick a Copy of them upon the door the next day if they were not answered tho most of the queries were frivolous and matters of more weight were under my consideration yet lest my silence should occasion boasting to which they are very propense I presently drew up the answer following to that query which concerns the foundation of most of their mistakes viz. The Light within Thomas Curwen I received a Paper a few hours ago subscribed with thy Name wherein thou or some one for thee writes that I was offended because thou calledst me a deceiver and saidst I taught
searching all the inward parts of the Bedy That is Whatsoever is most secret in our minds for as in the Belly natural conceptions are wrought and shaped so in the Mind Moral Conceptions of good or evil are wrought and shaped To this also agrees the saying of the Apostle 1 Cor. 2. 11. What man knoweth the things of a man save the spirit of a man whech is in him That is No other man knows what his own thoughts are or what they are working but his own understanding This Spirit of a man sees all the inward motions and outward actions of a man with a direct act of the understanding which is called Science and this simply considered makes not any thing that is discovered good or evil And this is the first use of the Light that is in every man viz. To make manifest the things of a man to himself Secondly This Light in every man is useful for direction in a double respect 1. As it looks upon the Law written in his heart it presents unto him the principles of Justice Righteousness Equity Soberness and other Moral Vertues and shews him what is right to be done according to that of the Apostle Rom. 2. 14. For when the Gentiles that is unconverted Gentiles which have not the Law do by nature the things contained in the Law these having not the Law that is formally published and preached unto them are a Law unto themselves Which shew the work of the Law written in their hearts their Conciences also bearing witness c. 2. As it looks upon the works of the Creation which are seen such clear beams of the God-head may be understood by the things that are made as might direct and induce man to glorifie God as God which the same Apostle Rom. 1. 18 19. makes the ground of the Righteousnesse of God in that dreadful Revelation of his Wrath against all ungodlinesse and unrighteousnesse of men who ever they be who hold the Truth in unrighteousnesse Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them or to them But how or where hath God manifested this to them The Apostle answers in the next words Verse 20. For the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made even his Eternal Power and God-head so that they are without excuse So that though every man have not a Light in him that is able to save him as will be further cleared hereafter yet he hath so much as will make him guilty and leave him without excuse Thirdly the light in every man is useful for conviction for though as was said before when it looks upon the things of a man with a direct act it makes nothing good or evil yet when it reflects upon the Law within which shall be the Rule of every motion and operation and compares the Action done with that Law the goodness or evilness of it is discovered according as it bears conformitie or non-conformitie thereunto and now Science or a bare knowing of an Action done is become Conscience for this reflex Act of the soul is called Conscience that is a knowing together with something else as when the understanding considers what is done in conjunction with a Law according to which it ought to be done thus the Spirit of a man which is the Candle of the Lord doth manifest the deed done and the Law discovers the quallitie of the Action according to that of the Apostle Rom. 3. 20. By the Law is the knowledg of sin were there not a Law there would be no Transgression and were not the Law looked upon and the Action compared with it there would be no such thing as Conscience but when deeds are laid before the Law as a Glasse shews not only the face but the spots that are in it so it will give a true report of their regularitie or irregularitie of their goodness or badness and suitable thereto will its Sentence be and Answerable to the Sentence the Law pronounceth will be the excusations or accusations of the person according to Rom. 2. 15. Which shew the work of the Law written in their hearts their Consciences also bearing witness and their thoughts mean while excusing or accusing one another Hence I say it comes to passe that when a man a meer natural man refuseth to follow this light of direction in doing what is right he is convinced in himself that he guiltie his Conscience troubleth him and judgeth him and is a Witnesse for the Lord that he is righteous when he judgeth according to that saying of the Apostle Rom. 3. 19. Now we know that what things soever the Law saith it saith to them who are under the Law that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become guiltie before God or be subject to the judgment of God not having a word to object why Sentence should not be executed because they have Transgressed This light was that which manifested to Adam his Transgression convinced him of his guilt tormented him with fear and made him hide himself from the presence of the Lord Gen. 3. 10. I heard thy voice in the Garden and was afraid because I was naked and I hid my self and as it was then so it hath been ever since and will be still that if any man transgresse that Rule and Law that is written in the heart of every natural man there is a light set up in his conscience which will accuse him be a witness against him torment him and condemn him according to that testimonie before mentioned Rom. 2. 15. and 1 Joh. 3. 20. this manifested to Judas his sin and caused him to bring again the money and confess he had sinned And more then this is not needful by way of Answer to H. W. or any other person demanding where that witness is that doth condemn and what that was which caused Judas to bring again the money and to confess that he had sinned in that he had betrayed the innocent blood Fourthly there is yet a further use of this light common to all men it doth not only make manifest direct and convince but is able also to know much of God as a Creator and Law giver at least his eternal power and Godhead by the works of the Creation which are seen Rom. 1. 19 20. and to feel and seek after him as such Acts 17. 27 28. That they should seek the Lord if happily they might feel after him and find him though he be not farr from every one of us for in him we live move and have our being c. Thus for the light in all men or common to all men good and bad believers and Infidels may go serve for the fore mentioned excellent uses even since by trasgression man fell from his created integritie the sum whereof is briefly this Every man hath a light springing up with