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truth_n know_v spirit_n world_n 6,961 5 5.3573 4 true
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A44110 An answer to a small treatise call'd Just measurs in an epistle of peace and love : by way of address, to such as esteem themselves elders amongst the people call'd Quakers ... Hogg, John, fl. 1675-1698. 1693 (1693) Wing H2367; ESTC R3382 64,276 94

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