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A96140	Mr. Edwards pen no slander: or, The Gangræna once more searched: which being found very full of corrupt matter, that part of his foul mouth is seringed, and washed with a moderate answer, given by Tho: Web, to that part of his book, wherein Mr. Edwards chargeth him for delivering severall Antinomian doctrines. In which answer is proved, that many things wherewith Mr. Edwards chargeth him, is false. Also, that Mr. Edwards charging any in such a nature is contrary to rule, and against all examples in Scripture, and tends unto division in these distracting times. / By Thomas Webbe.	Webbe, Thomas.	1646 (1646)	Wing W1206; Thomason E337_34; ESTC R200835	14,930	16

Sonne and God the Holy Ghost for then there were three Gods and it was demanded of me whether I spake this as my judgement or onely for Argument sake But I was silent It 's my delight to converse with Zions lovers and indeed many I did converse withall while I was at Colchester but not to any of them did I so deliver my self so that I am charged falsly nor indeed is it or ever was it my judgement but I truly believe God the Father God the Sonne and God the Holy Ghost and yet but one taking the said God that is the father to be both Sonne and Holy Ghost and so but one God though God the Father God the Sonne and God the Holy Ghost a mysterie which at this time is not my work to unfold A fourth Charge is how that I should say That I had other points to speak of to them but there was a Wolf crept in among the Fold indeed Mr. Edwards was then at Colchester but at that time I knew it not nor did I use such an expression nor had I my thoughts of him at that time but a guilty conscience is a great matter insomuch as what it speaks the man thinks that all knows it even as Thieves take Trees for men but if I had spoke those words what would it afford him if he were to sell it at the best rate Sure I am that if I had I had but spoke the truth for he would have had me complained of but he met with few such spirits as himself God be thanked for it for the Shepheard Christ will not suffer his sheep to be a prey to the Wolf persecution therefore to Him be honour and glory in the Church Now is it not a sad thing that Mr. Edwards should receive a sword to fight against the anointed of the Lord and not know wether he received it from the hand of truth and with the same sword cause the anointed to bleed pricking them with it as if it were the sword of the Spirit received by him at the hands of Truth when indeed and in truth it s neither but a Jewish Spear The infirmities of the Saints is not that sword by which the Spirit fights no it 's the Word of God and prayer that sword alone which Gospell Ministers should fight withall against the Saints infirmities Ephes 6.17 Nor is any other sword given by the hand of Truth to Gospell Ministers save onely the Word of God Matth. 10.10 and Chapt. 28. Ephes 6.17 With which swords they are to fight against not the Saints neither but their infirmities was it not a Jewish Spear wherewith the Jews fought against Christ even his infirmities but they found none but such as they call'd infirmities Even so how Jewishly do men fight against the Kings Sonnes when they take their infirmities nay such as they call infirmities to fight against them withall Truly my heart bleeds within me to consider of it and in beholding of the Kings Sonnes lying some beaten some wounded and some slain by the Kings servants well may we call for mourning indeed when that Ministers the Kings servants shall kill and slay the Saints the Kings Sonnes with a Spear Oh what heart cannot but break to see this Had it been an infirmity in me to have said I have many things to repeat of but a Wolf is crept in among the fold when Christ himself gives it as a caution to his Disciples Matth. 10.16,17 Behold I send you forth as Sheep amongst Wolves be ye therefore as wise as Serpents and innocent as Doves Beware of men for they will deliver you up to Councels and they will scourge you in their Synagogues c. Nay and it was the Apostle Paul still to beware of such amongst them that are perfect declare I the things of God in a misterie 1 Cor. 2.6 And see how he withstood the false Brethren that would have brought Paul in bondage in the use of his liberty Gal. 2.3 So truly it 's both Mr. Edward's duty and mine to beware of Wolves But I praise God I did not use such an expression not because the expression is not good but because those people that credit all for Gospell which Mr. Edwards writes may see the contrary and so be humbled for it For truly to my grief I heat many of all sorts Presbyterian as well as others cry out of his Book saying That where there is one true tale there be twenty and ten false ones and the parties as many as I have spoken with who are therein mentioned are sad to think that he should be so farre blinded as to be lead to speak evill of those who cordially love the truth and desire to love him as themselves A fifth Charge is How that upon November last I was talking with a Citizen and told him that the golden Calf the Scriptures was faln and I hope that all would be Anabaptists and so be of my judgement It 's strange and unto me a contradiction that I should so speak to a namelesse Citizen and yet my self an earnest seeker after the knowledge of the same and desire to walk in every thing according to the Scripture Nay further that I should hope they would be all Anabaptists when as they fetch no ground for their practice out of any thing but Scripture Now that I should be a well-willer to these and yet deny Scripture is a meer contradiction And truly I speak the truth I do with an unfeigned detestation utterly detest against it or any opinion that shall lead me to the questioning of the truth of Scripture in the least measure and am so farre from denying of it as that when ever God shall be pleased to call me to it I am willing to lay down my life for the truth of it In his sixth Charge Mr. Edwards also speaks of my being in Kent Where as he saith I vented Antinomian Doctrines but he doth not tell the particulars of it so that I cannot give him a particular answer onely this if to teach Faith and Repentance be Antinomianisme then I taught it But he writes how that in the Town of Milton in Kent I taught for the Minister thereof and in my second and third Sermon delivered strange Antinomian doctrines so that a 150. of the people would not hear me and that there was two complaints made to the Justices against me whereupon they would not let me live in the County also that I should say it were better for a man to sit and be drunk in an Ale-house then to be compelled to go to Church against his conscience Truly I am by Mr. Edwards so ingaged to appeare in publike as that I cannot appeare but that will appeare with me which I know by some will not be well accepted of and truly its much against my nature to err any otherwise then to bury all the infirmities of the infirmist but seeing I must put penn to paper I receive this charge

Mr. Edwards Pen NO SLANDER OR The Gangraena once more searched Which being found very full of corrupt matter that part of his foul Mouth is seringed and washed with a Moderate Answer given by THO WEB to that part of his Book wherein Mr. Edwards chargeth him for delivering severall Antinomian Doctrines In which Answer is proved that many things wherewith Mr. Edwards chargeth him is false ALSO That Mr. EDWARDS charging any in such a nature is contrary to Rule and against all Examples in Scripture and tends unto division in these distracting times By THOMAS WEBBE 1 COR. 16.14 Let all your things be done in Charity 2 COR 13.8 For we can do nothing against the Truth but for the Truth EPHES. 4.31 Let all bitternesse and wrath and anger and clamour and evill speaking depart away from you with all malice Vers 32. And be ye kind one to another forgiving one another even as God for Christs sake hath forgiven you London Printed by Jane Coe and are to be sold by Henry Overton at his Shop in Popes-Head Alley 1646. Mr. Edwards Pen no Slander IT is my hearts grief that I am engaged to use my Pen in matters that requires a publik satisfaction in answring of M. Edwards but in as much as I apprehend that its the will of God I am satisfied and am willing to give him an Answer though I am altogether unwilling that hatred should naswer hatred and malice malice but that love may give M. Edwards his hatred a sweet and Christian-like Answer and that in much patience Also that truth may appear for me and not my self who desires nothing more then the braces of Peace Truth in answering of M. Edwards that part of his Gangraena wherein he charges me with many things and where withall he seekes not onely to take away my good name but also against all Christianity my lively-hood O that we could but live answering Pauls Bowels of Compassion sweetly in a Christ-like love one towards another Mr. Edwards is pleased to begin thus speaking of me by name he saith that I was charged before the Honourable House of Lords for delivering blasphemous Doctrines which he saith I have recanted of this is his first Charge It s true indeed that I was before the House of Lords but I wonder and it s somthing strange that I should recant of those blasphemous doctrines when indeed as unto me they were read I did not own them It s true there was many Doctrines read over unto me by the Clerk of the Lords House which would admit of dangerous and blasphemous Constructions were of dangerous consequences indeed quite contrary unto my judgment or opinion but I having liberty to declare my self concerning them before that Honourable House I did both to the House and to those worthy Ministers of the Synod who were appointed to examine me and as I thought did give good satisfaction as did appear by my releasement out of Prison onely there did remain a little money businesse Now if this were a recantation I refer it to wise judicious considerations But grant it were a recantation I had then whereof not to be ashamed but to glory in respect of mercy shewed me in recanting of them but is it not against common reason that Mr. Edwards should divulge the same in publique to the rendring of me odious to the world and bereaving me of my lively-hood which that he doth in taking away my good name which as the wise-man saith is better then great abundance of worldly riches as by sad experience is wofully witnessed would it be a point of wisdome for a Father if that after his Son should confesse his fault and turn from it that his Father should declare the same to the world whereby his Child were rendred odious and thereby lost his good name O let in this case common reason stand between Mr. Edwards and my self Secondly grant that I had recanted of such sad blasphemous doctrines O what cause of rejoycing and it had been his duty to a praised God for it on my behalf knowing that praise waiteth for God in Syon God waits to do us good and to be mercifull unto us and we should wait to praise God and to let passe no opportunity nor receive no mercy but praise should be given forth to God But how doth Mr. Edwards wait upon God as for every beame of love to praise God who sends forth the glorious beames thereof to the Sons of men when he in his writing vents nothing but self and hatred in the rendring me odious to the world as if my recantation had bin an errour and so the things of which I did recant were truth Certainly he was very zealous but not according to knowledge for knowledg would as I conceive have taught him otherwise even to have praised God with me on my behalf for convincing of me of those dangerous and blasphemous doctrines there being no work of God But what of us all worthy of all praise but more especially the work of God which to us is one of the greatest miracles wrought by divine power even the turning of a soule from errour unto truth knowing that the not knowing of God and the way of God in a true manner or Gospel way doth deprive the soule of many sweet and precious enjoyments of God and Gospel priviledges also that he that turneth a soule from sinne saveth it from Hell O that Mr. Edwards would take it and seriously consider of it whether he be greater then the Angels in Heaven or whether pride be greater in him then in them for certainly one of these must be in as much as there is great joy amongst them over one sinner that turns from his way Now if they stoop down to us poor Creatures so as to rejoyce at our returning from sin unto God oh why should not Mr. Edwards nay and how doth God himself embrace and provide a fatted Calf for his prodigall Son that returns home unto him now if so be I have bin a prodigall Son as indeed in some measure I have been and have fed upon husks which he tearms blasphemous Doctrines and at last I have turned or God hath drawn me from them to truth O what cause is here of Mr. Edwards embracing of me and taking me into his love and favour seeing that God hath done it before him but how doth he praise God nay he is though in love I write it as truly I must be plaine in his wayes farr below God in his wayes for God embraces and sweetly busses that soule that turnes to him and provides a fatted Calfe for the poore soule sweetly to feede upon but he is so farre from embracing of me that he seekes not only to make me odious to himselfe but also to the world he is so farre from providing a fatted Calfe as that if he could I feare he would provide for me a leane and poore price and a sower and bitter bite