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A93687 A spirit moving in the vvomen-preachers: or, Certaine quæres, vented and put forth unto this affronted, brazen-faced, strange, new feminine brood. Wherein they are proved to be rash, ignorant, ambitious, weake, vaine-glorious, prophane and proud, moved onely by the spirit of errour. 1646 (1646) Wing S4990; Thomason E324_10; ESTC R200613 7,121 11

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wholsome words even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ which are according to godlinesse be not as is there shewed of that prophane rude number reckoned up 1 Tim. 6.3 4. Proud knowing nothing but doating about questions and strifes of Words whereof cometh envie strife railings evill surmisings perverse disputings of men corrupt and destitute of the truth supposing that gaine is godlinesse from such withdraw your selves being silly women ever learning and yet never learned nor able to come unto the knowledge of the Truth 1 Tim. 3.6 7. Objection But all the Rabble of Separatists those and all others have this shield and buckler wherewith they shroud themselves in all their undertakings That they only act as the Spirit moves them Answer A false and grosly ignorant Objection a grand untruth and imputation put upon the blessed Spirit of Truth who leade men into all Truth and countenances no grosse errours of Schismes or errours in any But to answer them 1 Ingenerall and then in particular Certaine it is that as truly might that grand Impostour Mahomet that counterfeit Christ Hacket executed in Queene Elizabeths time that blasphemous Butcher John of Leyden who proclaimed himselfe King of Righteousnesse pleading Revelations Raptures and Enthusiasmes of the Spirits motions for all they did or said plead the Spirits Authoritie and Revelations as these our shallow weak ignorant preaching Sisters may and all alike For if this grand Imposture might passe currant that men might impute all their grosse dreames and fooleries on the Spirits Revelations what grosse impieties and enormities might they not father on the Spirits Revelations In infinitum And so abuse the Spirit the world and themselves under a pretended shew of holinesse and voluntarie counterfeit humilitie without any warrant from the Word the rules whereof must be our warrant in all our actions without which the Spirit moves not at all but as he witnesseth unto the Truth of the Word revealed Thus much in generall But more particularly a little to assault and batter this their Fort-Royall let us survey three things touching the Spirit which will cleare the point I suppose 1 Let us survey briefly The Spirits motions under the Law before Christs Incarnation 2 The Spirits mission and offices assigned him by Christ at his mission from the Father and the Son 3 The Spirits limitations by Christ at his mission and sending And so we will conclude this short discourse First for the Spirits motions under the Law before Christs Incarnation wee read of divers motions of the Spirit First that in the Creation The Spirit of God moved upon the waters Genes 1.2 Then we read of divers other motions of the Spirit In Joshuah full thereof Deut. 34.9 In Iephthah Iudg. 11.29 His moving in David 1 Sam. 16.13 In Saul 1 Sam. 10.10 On Eliah running before Ahab unto the entrance of Iezreel 1 King 18.16 The spirit of the Lord falling on Ezekiel Ezek. 11.5 And in an extraordinarie case we read of two women Prophetesses Deborah who judged Israel Iudg. 4 4. and of Huldah the Prophetesse 2 King 22.14 From which two particular dispensations for that time to two women can be no generall deducted for these women-Preachers against the warrant and rules of the word of God as hath been shewed And we read also of another motion of the Spirit Isa 30.21 In a voyce behind us saying This is the way walk in it c. which can be no warrant for these foresaid women to preach for there the Spirits directions for our walking is in the Way of Holinesse and Divine Rules not into Schismes Rents Deviations Divisions and Errours contrarie unto the expresse Rules of the Word and so I have done with the first thing The Spirits motions before Christs Incarnation From whence they can deduct no warrant or example for their preaching The second thing is The Spirits mission by Christ with the Offices assigned unto him by Christ For his Mission Hee is sent by the Father in Christs Name a Spirit of Truth whom all in the world cannot receive Joh. 14.17 whose Offices are to comfort us to dwell and be in us to teach us all things to bring unto our remembrance all things taught us by Christ Joh. 14.26 to testifie of Christ Joh. 15.26 to guide and lead us in all truth Joh. 16.13 to shew us things to come Joh. 16.14 and to convince the World of Sin of Righteousnesse and of Judgement From all which there can be no warrant drawne for his moving of women to preach for his motions are according unto the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles from the Spirit of Christ who teach us no such Doctrine but quite contrarie as hath been shewed For this Blessed Spirit of Christ is still the same which is said to be A Spirit of Wisdoms and understanding the Spirit of counsell and might the Spirit of knowledge and of the feare of the Lord Isa 11.2 A Spirit as is shewed leading us into the practice of all known and revealed Truths from Christ not the dreames errours fables and pretended raptures of these silly abused Sectaries The last thing is The Spirits limitations by Christ 1 Negative 2 Affirmative 1 Negative For he shall not speake of himselfe 2 Affirmative but Whatsoever he shall heare that he shall speake and he will shew you things to come hee shall glorifie me for he shall receive of mine and shall shew it unto you Intimating that if the Spirit should guide and lead us other wayes than in the truths and rules received by Christ in the Word the testimony of such a spirit were not to be beleeved neither led us in the right way which should not this way glorifie Christ By all which we may gather that these poore silly women transgressing as is shewed against the rules of the word delivered by the Spirit of Christ in the Apostle which he affirmeth to be the Commandements of the Lord 1 Cor. 14.37 are ignorant and like to remaine in ignorance 1 Cor. 14.38 led by the spirit of errour in all their vain-glorious rash impudencies whose Syren enchanting songs are carefully to be avoyded of all following the Apostles rule Rom. 15.17 18. Now I beseech you brethren mark them that cause divisions and offences contrarie to the doctrine which yee have learned and avoyd them For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ but their owne belly and by good Words and faire speeches deceive the hearts of the simple For when such like false Intruders took upon them to be Exorists and to conjure evill spirits in the name of the Lord Jesus the Devill himselfe refused to owne or know such ACTS XIX XV. Jesus I know and Paul I know but who are yee FINIS
A SPIRIT MOVING IN The VVomen-Preachers OR CERTAJNE QVAERES Vented and put forth unto this affronted brazen-faced strange new Feminine Brood Wherein they are proved to be rash ignorant ambitious weake vaine-glorious prophane and proud moved onely by the spirit of errour LONDON Printed for Henry Shepheard at the Bible in Tower-street and William Ley at PAULS Ch●ine neere Doctors Commons 1646. Certaine Quaeres vented and put forth to the Women-Preachers THough perhaps it had been much better and safer for me to have scorned to meddle with these silly frantick creatures hereafter named saying unto them with abominated indignation as the Prophet Isay 30.22 speaks of the covering of superstitious Images as unto a m●nstruous cloth g●● thee hence Yet lest these insulting in sh●w false Prophetesses running unsent should too much insult in their arrogant pride that no man would or could rationally encounter their foolish proud vain-glorious insolencies in presuming to advance themselves before and over men transgressing the rules of Nature M●destie Divinitie Discretion Civilitie c. in triumphing against Authoritie contemning Lawes and all things opposite unto their weak proceedings I have chosen to encounter with these Syr●ns the s●aine of women and of Religion by some Quaeres put forth unto them and the world to discover their foolishne●● weaknesse pride indiscretion insolencie and vain-glorious frenzie How in stead of acting as the Spirit moves them as all Sectaries pretend are rather led by the spirit of darknesse ignorance and grosse errour When the Devill first adventured to sting the woman and tempt her as 〈◊〉 weaker vessell so by her to sting and undo all man-kind by all likely-hood he k●●● well what a rare peece he had to deale with naturally apt unto all mischiefe 〈◊〉 eff●ct all his plots and purposes to disturb the whole Fabrick of the Creation and as neere as might be to bring the whole world unto wofull desolation Witne●●● his after-work since the fall having for the most part in all ages used especi●lly this silly and weaker Sex to atchieve and compasse all his greatest plots and designes who in all Kings Princes and Noblemens Courts have been and yet are his only Engins to effect all his exorbitant desires For when women beare 〈◊〉 over men having catched and bewitched them in their subtill snares what 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that they will not do for them what requests or gifts will they refuse them what secrets will not these Dalilabs enforce even from Samsons themselves So that for the most part in all Kings Princes and great mens Courts and houses they beare rule and all things must be as they will or else there is no peace 〈◊〉 Court nor Countrey and many times the lesse peace the more they beare sway and rule And how extreamly do the most common lascivious sort of them undo men of all sorts and degrees whilst be witch●d with 〈…〉 But of all other the Jesuites Priests and Separatists of our times and Church have made and ever do make singular use of these female Creatures The former to learne from them all their husbands secrets to make use of them both for prevention of all designes against them and advancement of their Kingdome thereby to insinuate into their husbands favours and estates to lead them which way they list to their unlawfull pleasures having them once catcht in the snares of Confession to over-awe them one way and please them the other way with slight and light penances And our Separatists in this Kingdome are not in this kind to learne to shufflle their Cards and how to lead captive as the Apostle speaks 2 Tim. 3.6 7. silly women laden with divers lusts ever learning and never leanred nor able to come unto the knowledge of the Truth under colour of long prayers devouring widdowes houses that so by them they may attaine unto all their unlawfull secret desires most of them for the most part wearing the breeches and so draw and lead their husbands by the nose which way they please by degrees wasting their estates and furnishing their pretended holy brother of the Separation or Schisme with whatsoever he pleases not displeasing this man of God as they call him though perhaps a wolfe in sheeps cloathing whose insinuation with this Female Sex hath so prevailed with this poore ignorant sort of Creatures that puffed up with pride divers of them have lately advanced themselves with vain-glorious arrogance to preach in mixt Congregations of men and women in an insolent way so usurping authority over men and assuming a calling unwarranted by the word of God for women to use yet all under colour that they act as the Spirit moves them wherein they highly wrong and abuse the motions of that blessed Spirit to make him to be the Author of so much Schisme disorder and confusion they being rather led by the strong delusions of the Prince of darknesse to contenance their ignorance pride and vain-glorie as Hacket and Iohn a Leyden were who pretended spirituall revelations for all the villanies they committed even when they were to give up the ghost dying in the midst of such blasphemies Wherefore that the vanitie weaknesse ignorance pride ambition and vain-glorie of these poore Creatures may be discovered and that they may see upon what sandie foundations they build their Babels of confusion in their pretended Congregations and may repent and reforme themselves for the time to come I have hereafter provided from the Word some few Quaeres for them to shew both to the world and themselves how far they are from any lawfull authoritie of preaching unto others who themselves are so short of knowledge being grossely ignorant disabled either by precept rule or example of holy Scripture so proudly grossely and ignorantly to behave themselves after which God willing I will encounter if the paper faile me not with their Fort-Royall to overthrow it shewing that their actions are not regulated and ruled by a right but by a deluding spirit But ere we come to our Quaeres let us first state the condition and nature of that Sex we are to intreat of what they are by Creation and what they are by Degeneration 1 By Creation we find her equall unto the man a helper meet for him Gen. 2.18 2 By Degeneration we find her his inferiour the weaker vessell as the Apostle speaks 1 Pet. 3.7 made subject unto mans government her will for over subjected unto his will he to beare rule over her Gen. 3.16 she becoming therwith ignorant shallow proud ambitious fantastike inconstant passionate and vaine-glorious indiscreet easily led into extreames either in good or evill which drew Solomons choice to be so as to choose any malice save the malice of a woman In which subjected estate she was no more to weare her haire down along as in the Creation but to weare it tyed up for a covering 1 Cor. 11.15 only in one case of jealousie accused by her husband when she was to drinke the bitter water of her