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A96140	Mr. Edwards pen no slander: or, The Gangræna once more searched: which being found very full of corrupt matter, that part of his foul mouth is seringed, and washed with a moderate answer, given by Tho: Web, to that part of his book, wherein Mr. Edwards chargeth him for delivering severall Antinomian doctrines. In which answer is proved, that many things wherewith Mr. Edwards chargeth him, is false. Also, that Mr. Edwards charging any in such a nature is contrary to rule, and against all examples in Scripture, and tends unto division in these distracting times. / By Thomas Webbe.	Webbe, Thomas.	1646 (1646)	Wing W1206; Thomason E337_34; ESTC R200835	14,930	16

Sonne and God the Holy Ghost for then there were three Gods and it was demanded of me whether I spake this as my judgement or onely for Argument sake But I was silent It 's my delight to converse with Zions lovers and indeed many I did converse withall while I was at Colchester but not to any of them did I so deliver my self so that I am charged falsly nor indeed is it or ever was it my judgement but I truly believe God the Father God the Sonne and God the Holy Ghost and yet but one taking the said God that is the father to be both Sonne and Holy Ghost and so but one God though God the Father God the Sonne and God the Holy Ghost a mysterie which at this time is not my work to unfold A fourth Charge is how that I should say That I had other points to speak of to them but there was a Wolf crept in among the Fold indeed Mr. Edwards was then at Colchester but at that time I knew it not nor did I use such an expression nor had I my thoughts of him at that time but a guilty conscience is a great matter insomuch as what it speaks the man thinks that all knows it even as Thieves take Trees for men but if I had spoke those words what would it afford him if he were to sell it at the best rate Sure I am that if I had I had but spoke the truth for he would have had me complained of but he met with few such spirits as himself God be thanked for it for the Shepheard Christ will not suffer his sheep to be a prey to the Wolf persecution therefore to Him be honour and glory in the Church Now is it not a sad thing that Mr. Edwards should receive a sword to fight against the anointed of the Lord and not know wether he received it from the hand of truth and with the same sword cause the anointed to bleed pricking them with it as if it were the sword of the Spirit received by him at the hands of Truth when indeed and in truth it s neither but a Jewish Spear The infirmities of the Saints is not that sword by which the Spirit fights no it 's the Word of God and prayer that sword alone which Gospell Ministers should fight withall against the Saints infirmities Ephes 6.17 Nor is any other sword given by the hand of Truth to Gospell Ministers save onely the Word of God Matth. 10.10 and Chapt. 28. Ephes 6.17 With which swords they are to fight against not the Saints neither but their infirmities was it not a Jewish Spear wherewith the Jews fought against Christ even his infirmities but they found none but such as they call'd infirmities Even so how Jewishly do men fight against the Kings Sonnes when they take their infirmities nay such as they call infirmities to fight against them withall Truly my heart bleeds within me to consider of it and in beholding of the Kings Sonnes lying some beaten some wounded and some slain by the Kings servants well may we call for mourning indeed when that Ministers the Kings servants shall kill and slay the Saints the Kings Sonnes with a Spear Oh what heart cannot but break to see this Had it been an infirmity in me to have said I have many things to repeat of but a Wolf is crept in among the fold when Christ himself gives it as a caution to his Disciples Matth. 10.16,17 Behold I send you forth as Sheep amongst Wolves be ye therefore as wise as Serpents and innocent as Doves Beware of men for they will deliver you up to Councels and they will scourge you in their Synagogues c. Nay and it was the Apostle Paul still to beware of such amongst them that are perfect declare I the things of God in a misterie 1 Cor. 2.6 And see how he withstood the false Brethren that would have brought Paul in bondage in the use of his liberty Gal. 2.3 So truly it 's both Mr. Edward's duty and mine to beware of Wolves But I praise God I did not use such an expression not because the expression is not good but because those people that credit all for Gospell which Mr. Edwards writes may see the contrary and so be humbled for it For truly to my grief I heat many of all sorts Presbyterian as well as others cry out of his Book saying That where there is one true tale there be twenty and ten false ones and the parties as many as I have spoken with who are therein mentioned are sad to think that he should be so farre blinded as to be lead to speak evill of those who cordially love the truth and desire to love him as themselves A fifth Charge is How that upon November last I was talking with a Citizen and told him that the golden Calf the Scriptures was faln and I hope that all would be Anabaptists and so be of my judgement It 's strange and unto me a contradiction that I should so speak to a namelesse Citizen and yet my self an earnest seeker after the knowledge of the same and desire to walk in every thing according to the Scripture Nay further that I should hope they would be all Anabaptists when as they fetch no ground for their practice out of any thing but Scripture Now that I should be a well-willer to these and yet deny Scripture is a meer contradiction And truly I speak the truth I do with an unfeigned detestation utterly detest against it or any opinion that shall lead me to the questioning of the truth of Scripture in the least measure and am so farre from denying of it as that when ever God shall be pleased to call me to it I am willing to lay down my life for the truth of it In his sixth Charge Mr. Edwards also speaks of my being in Kent Where as he saith I vented Antinomian Doctrines but he doth not tell the particulars of it so that I cannot give him a particular answer onely this if to teach Faith and Repentance be Antinomianisme then I taught it But he writes how that in the Town of Milton in Kent I taught for the Minister thereof and in my second and third Sermon delivered strange Antinomian doctrines so that a 150. of the people would not hear me and that there was two complaints made to the Justices against me whereupon they would not let me live in the County also that I should say it were better for a man to sit and be drunk in an Ale-house then to be compelled to go to Church against his conscience Truly I am by Mr. Edwards so ingaged to appeare in publike as that I cannot appeare but that will appeare with me which I know by some will not be well accepted of and truly its much against my nature to err any otherwise then to bury all the infirmities of the infirmist but seeing I must put penn to paper I receive this charge

into 3. heads as followeth viz. First is that in my second and third Sermon I delivered strange Antinomian doctrines c. It s true I taught certaine times for Mr. Symonds by name their Minister there and three Sermons I taught in his hearing which by him was not excepted against but was very well approved of as will appear by sufficient witnesses if required and for what I taught in his absence it was no waies contradicting or disagreeable with what I taught in his presence and if there were a hundred and fifty which was but supposed that did absent themselves from hearing of me I challenge all or any of them to disprove by Scripture or argument what I delivered amongst them or any for them Mr. Edwards if he can for truly I am not afraid that what I delivered should be brought to the touchstone Gods word there to be tryed by any but what if there had been a hundred and fifty that had absented themselves from hearing of me it would not follow that what I taught was Antinomianisme nay if I or any should judge the Presbyterian way by that rule it would be condemned by all to be the Antichristian way for confident I am that there is none of many of the Presbyterian Ministers but the better part of their parish absent themselves from hearing of them againe sure I am that if any did absent themselves from hearing of me if Mr. Symonds speak the truth to me they did no more by me then they did by him his word was there that I should not be troubled at it for they did so by him and that his opposers were the great ones and indeed if Antinomianisme was the cause as alas poore people they do not know what it is they had as much cause to absent from hearing of him as from hearing of me he teaching as much Antinomianisme as I taught The second head is that two complaints was made against me to the Justices so that they would not let me live in the County First what complaints were made against me that I am ignorant of but as I understand by one who was intimate with one of the Justices they were such complaints as could not without shame to the complayner be mentioned to me the Justices words were these that Mr. Symonds then Minister at M●lton should depart the place in as much as that he made severall complaints to him against me but when I appeared he could say nothing Secondly there came forth a warrant from the Justices to the Bosselder of Milton for the bringing of me before them the warrant to my best remembrance was to this effect That whereas Thomas Web living in the Towne of Milton hath both in publike and private vented erronious doctrines to the dishonour of God to the destruction of all religion and vilifying of civill Magistrates These are to require you c. A most strange warrant and I a most strange person as the Justices here hath formed me if that mentioned in the warrant could be proved against me but see the strangenesse of men I did appeare before the Justices according to their warrant expecting to have heard a charge according to what was expressed in the warrant and to know my accusers which was but reasonable and being called into the roome where the Justices was and two ministers instead of giving me a lawfull charge according to what the warrant did expresse Justice Hindrick by name would have asked me questions but I refusing to answer he tould me I had divided the Towne of Milton I desiring to know my accuers he told me the second time that I had taught false doctrine I still desiring to see my accusers instead of naming any also instead of giving me a charge according to the nature of the warrant the said Iustice Hindrick charges me with things which was but my opinion delivered in private As first that I should say that Magistrates had no power in the Kingdome of God and his Christ The second was that I should say That a Minister of the Gospel if cast among the Jews to teach the Gospel his liberty was to suffer his Converts to be circumcised for the Gospel sake as the Apostle Paul did Timothy Now if herein I had justice and honest dealing let any man judge when as I by a warrant from the Justices was apprehended in which I was charged as you may read and at my appearance before them should be charged with that for erroneous which was but the use of my liberty as a free-born Denizon of England even my opinion to certain Queries in private not doctrinally delivered but meerly by way of opinion if herein I had justice let any judge Nay herein I suffered much wrongfully in as much as the Warrant appearing with such sad charges did tend much to my hurt in rendring me odious to many honest and religious people when as nothing was nor could be proved against me whereby I did justly deserve it but some short time after my appearance though nothing could be proved against me the same Justices issued forth another Warrant for my departing the Town within ten dayes after the sight thereof A short warning and indeed a sad sentence when I had my Wife lying on her Bed of sicknesse in such a weak manner as none thought she would ever have risen out of her Bed but if the question should be demanded of me why this cruelty as it can be tearmed no lesse was used Truly for my part I cannot give a sufficient answer nay I must be silent for I cannot tell only as I may judge it was a zeal without knowledge and will without a love was the reason of it This Mr. Edwards mentions as if so be I left the County through the said Warrant truly I would have him to know that I would not give an Arbitrary Government so much footing in Enland and it 's well known to all in the Town First that I was in the Town three Weeks after the ten dayes were expired and secondly that I had not stirred out of the Town upon so slight tearms but would have had justice done on one side or other had I not through the perswasions of some friends in London removed my wife to London hoping that change of Ayr would have done her some good Third head It was better for a man to be drunk in an Ale-house then to be compelled to go to Church against his conscience Truly there is no conscientious man but hates drunkennesse and I utterly deny that ever I spake such words nor was it ever in my thoughts but in the time while I was before the Justices Justice Hindrick demanded of me whether he might not being in authority compell a man from Ale-house to Church My answer was That I thought as also his experience might witnesse that there was many a man at Church which had rather be at an Ale-house wherein we did agree Yet notwithstanding what the