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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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what_o i_o say_v in_o my_o apology_n sect_n 20._o i_o say_v still_o i_o seek_v unity_n with_o truth_n and_o i_o be_o certain_a that_o mr._n b._n have_v most_o injurious_o accuse_v i_o as_o unpeaceable_a whether_o it_o have_v come_v from_o other_o suggestion_n or_o his_o own_o misconceit_n of_o i_o to_o that_o which_o be_v from_o pag._n 189._o to_o 169._o be_v answer_v before_o sect_n xiii_o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o right_a way_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o a_o doctrine_n by_o strange_a accident_n though_o wondrous_a page_n 197._o he_o drive_v on_o more_o furioso_fw-it have_v recite_v my_o word_n concern_v unsafenesse_n to_o judge_v of_o doctrine_n by_o such_o accidental_a strange_a thing_n as_o mrs._n dyer_n and_o hutchinsons_n monstrous_a birth_n in_o new_a england_n and_o alle_fw-mi adge_v a_o example_n of_o determine_v that_o god_n be_v against_o the_o marriage_n of_o priest_n by_o the_o fall_n of_o a_o house_n and_o add_v we_o be_v to_o judge_v god_n may_v order_v 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page_n 273._o and_o say_v it_o be_v of_o dangerous_a consequence_n and_o indeed_o i_o think_v it_o so_o still_o for_o i_o think_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o except_o a_o magistrate_n can_v show_v his_o commission_n from_o christ_n that_o he_o be_v a_o usurper_n and_o then_o none_o be_v bind_v to_o he_o but_o to_o suppress_v he_o than_o no_o infidel_n be_v a_o lawful_a magistrate_n who_o deny_v christ_n and_o it_o will_v be_v questionable_a whether_o this_o will_v not_o extend_v to_o a_o non-churchmemb_a or_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n than_o a_o magistrate_n do_v of_o right_a to_o a_o infidel_n against_o a_o believer_n or_o to_o one_o believer_n against_o another_o as_o put_v he_o to_o death_n be_v a_o act_n for_o christ_n as_o mediator_n and_o if_o because_o all_o power_n be_v give_v to_o he_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o earth_n therefore_o magistracy_n so_o as_o that_o all_o power_n must_v be_v derive_v from_o christ_n as_o mediator_n than_o a_o father_n power_n over_o his_o child_n 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so_o he_o say_v it_o be_v concern_v infan-baptism_n which_o be_v prove_v from_o john_n 3._o 5._o but_o that_o the_o sense_n whereby_o to_o prove_v it_o be_v only_o manifest_a by_o tradition_n which_o be_v confirm_v in_o the_o canon_n law_n and_o schoolman_n a_o infants-baptism_n be_v not_o reckon_v perfect_a till_o the_o bishop_n lay_v on_o hand_n which_o act_n be_v call_v confirmation_n to_o wit_n of_o the_o imperfect_a baptism_n in_o infancy_n molinaeus_n in_o his_o vates_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 7._o cite_v the_o canon_n do_v 5._o de_fw-la consecratione_fw-la as_o determine_v that_o without_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n no_o man_n be_v a_o full_a christian._n can._n omnes_fw-la et_fw-la can._n ut_fw-la jejuni_fw-la thomas_n 3._o part_n summae_fw-la q._n 72._o art_n 9_o dicit_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la esse_fw-la perfection●m_fw-la baptismi_fw-la innuens_fw-la baptismum_fw-la esse_fw-la imperfectum_fw-la nisi_fw-la accesserit_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la lumb_n l._n 4._o scent_n do_v 7._o a._n omnes_fw-la fideles_fw-la per_fw-la manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la post_fw-la baptismum_fw-la accipere_fw-la debent_fw-la in_o confirmatione_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ut_fw-la pleni_fw-la christiani_n inveniantur_fw-la bellarm._n tom_n 3._o the_o sacr_n confirm_v c._n 12._o confirmatio_fw-la est_fw-la complementum_fw-la &_o perfectio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la lib._n 2._o de_fw-la effec_fw-la sacram._n c._n 8._o est_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la quaedam_fw-la perfectio_fw-la &_o consummatio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la jewel_n defence_n of_o the_o apolog._n page_n 218._o allege_v it_o as_o caistan_n tenet_n that_o a_o infant_n for_o that_o he_o want_v instruction_n in_o faith_n therefore_o have_v not_o perfect_a baptism_n consonant_a hereto_o be_v the_o conceit_n of_o the_o common_a people_n that_o they_o have_v not_o their_o full_a christian_a doom_n all_o they_o be_v bishop_v but_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v even_o learned_a protestant_n speak_v near_o 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