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A40688 A sermon preached at the Collegiat [sic] Church of S. Peter in Westminster, on the 27 of March, being the day of His Majesties inauguration by Thomas Fuller. Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. 1643 (1643) Wing F2465; ESTC R202167 12,852 30

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field of strong men 2 Sam. 2.16 thrust their swords in each other and so fall downe both together or if one party prove victorious it will purchase the conquest at so deare a price as the destruction of the Kingdome which will be done before And what is said Matth. 24.22 of the siege of Jerusalem is as true of our miserable times And except those dayes were shortened there should no flesh be saved Would to God I could as truly adde the words that follow But for the Elects sake those dayes shall be shortened However in my Doctrine there remaines an eternall truth that all loyall Subjects ought to be glad when their Soveraigne returneth in peace 18. Yea may some say David deserved to be welcomed indeed and at his return to be entertain'd with all possible expressions of gladnesse for he brought true religion along with him and setled Gods service in the purity and precisenesse thereof But now adayes all cry to have Peace to have Peace and care not to have truth together with it Yea there be many silly Mephibosheths in our dayes that so adore Peace that to attain it they care not what they give away to the malignant Ziba's of our Kingdom These say Yea let them take All lawes and liberties and priviledges and proprieties and Parliaments and Religion and the Gospell and godlinesse and God himselfe So be it that the Lord our King may come to his house in Peace But let us have peace and truth together both or neither for if Peace offer to come alone we will doe with it as Ezechiah did with the brazen Serpent even break it to pieces and stamp it to powder as the dangerous Idoll of ignorant people 11. I answer God forbid God forbid wee should have peace and not truth with it but to speak plainly I would to God men did talk lesse of truth and love it more have it seldomer in their mouthes and oftner yea alwayes in their heads and hearts to believe and practice it Know then that the word truth is subject to much Homonymie and is taken in severall sences according to the opinions or rather humours of those that use it Aske the Anabaptist what is truth and he will tell you Truth is the maintaining that the dominion over the creatures is founded in grace and that wicked men whereby they mean all such whom they shall be pleased to account and call so neither use the creatures right nor have any right to use them but may justly be dispossessed of them It is truth that all goods should bee common that there should be no civill Magistrate that there ought to be no warres but what they make themselves for which they pretend inspiration that children ought not to bee baptized till they could give a reason of their faith and that such as have been formerly must be rebaptized Againe Ask the Separatists what is Truth and they will tell you that the further from all ceremonies though ancient and decent the nearer to God that it is against the liberty of a Christian to be press'd to the forme of a set prayer who ought only to be Voluntaries and follow the dictate of the spirit that the Ministers made in our Church are Antichristian with many more Ask the Schismaticks of these times what is Truth and they will bring in abundance of their own opinions which I spare at this time to recite the rather because when the wheel of their fancie is turned about another spoak may chance to be verticall being so fickle in their Tenents that what they account truth now will perchance not be counted truth by them seven years hence 20. To come close to the answer I say that some of their pretended truths are flat falsities and others meer fooleries as it easily to prove in time and place convenient Secondly Grant some of them be truths yet are they not of that importance and concernment as to deserve to imbroyle a Kingdome in blood to bring them in David longed for the waters of the well of Bethlehem 2 Sam. 23.17 but when it was brought him hee checkt his owne vanitie and would not drink it because it was the blood of men that went in jeopardy of their lives But with what heart as men or conscience as Christians can Sectaries seek to introduce their devices with such violence unto the Church when they know full well that it will cost blood before it be setled and if it e're be done non erit tanti it will not quit cost being in themselves slight matters of mean consequence Thirdly Grant them not onely true but important if they be so desirous to have them introduced the way most agreeable to Christian proceedings is to have them fairely debated freely disputed fully decided firmely determined by a still voyce and not that their new Gospell should be given as the Law with thundering and lightning of Cannon fire and sword Fourthly Bee it affirmed for a certain truth that formerly we had in our Churches all truths necessary to salvation Of such as deny this I ask Iosephs question to his Brethren Is your father well the old man is he yet alive So how fares the soules of their Sires and the Ghosts of their Grand-fathers are they yet alive do they still survive in blisse in happinesse Oh no they are dead dead in soule dead in body dead temporally dead eternally dead and damned if so be wee had not all truth necessary to salvation before this time Yea let these that cry most for the want of truth shew one rotten kernell in the whole Pomegranet one false Article in all 39. Let them shew where our Church is deficient in a necessary truth But these men know wherein their strength lyeth and they had rather creep into houses and lead away captive silly women laden with infirmities then to meddle with men and enter the lists to combate with the learned Doctors of the Church 21. But it is further objected David brought home a true Peace with him which long lasted firm the showre of Ziba's rebellion being afterward quickly blown over But we have cause to suspect our Peace will not be a true Peace and an open wound is better then a palliate cure Would you have us put off our Armour to bee killd in our clothes and bee surprized with warre on a sudden when it will be past our policie to prevent or power to resist it 22. Answer There must at last be a mutuall confiding on both sides so that they must count the honesty of others their onely hostages This the sooner it be done the easier it is done For who can conceive that when both sides have suffered more wrongs they will sooner forgive or when they have offered more wrongs be sooner forgiven For our Kings part let us demand of his mony what Christ ask'd of Caesars coyne Whose image is this Charls's and what is the superscription RELIGIO PROTESTANTIUM LEGES ANGLIAE LIBERTATES