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A40242 Saul's errand to Damascus, with his packet of letters from the high priests against the disciples of the Lord, or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancashier who call themselves ministers of the Gospel breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers : together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced against, the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them : published to no other end but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages. Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.; Lawson, John. 1654 (1654) Wing F1895; ESTC R37353 29,928 47

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the Scriptures are not the Salvation but he that doth believe hath the life of them Who is born of God shall never dye as it is written he that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God hath the witness in himselfe that God is the cause of mans Salvation and not the Scripture nor the Letter James Naylers Answer and Declaration touching some things charged upon him by the men aforesaid HAving heard of divers untruths cast upon me by some of the Priests in their high places though I stand only to the Lord in respect of my selfe yet left any that love the truth should be led on by these salfe reports to speak evil of those things they know not I shall lay open the truth as it is revealed in me touching those things whereof I have bee falsly accused First Concerning Jesus Christ that he is the eternal word of God by whom all things were made and are upholden which Rev. 19. 13. was before all time but manifested to the world in time for the 1 Ioh. 1. 2 3 4 5. recovery of left man which Word became flesh and dwelt amongst the Saints who is the same yesterday to day and for Ioh. 1. 14. ever who did and doth dwell in the Saints who suffered and rose again and ascended into Heaven and is set at the right hand o God to whom all power is given in heaven and in earth Eph. 1. 20. who fill all places is the light of the world but known to none but to those that receive and follow him and those he lead up to Ioh. 8 12. God out of all the ways works and worships of the world by his pure light in them whereby he reveals the man of sinne 2 Thess 2. 8. and by his power casts him out And so prepares the bodies of the Saints a fit Temple for the pure God to dwell in with whom dwells no unclean thing and thus he reconciles God and man 1 Cor. 3. 16 17. and the image of God which is in purity and holinesse is renewed and the image of S●●an which is all sin and uncleanness is defaced and none can witness Redemption further then Christus thus revealed in them to set them free from sin which 2 Cor. 5. 18. 19. Christ I witness to be revealed in me in measure Gal. 1. 16. 2 Cor. 13. 5 Col. 1. 27. Col. 3. 10. 2. Concerning the Scriptures That they are a true Declaration of that word which was in them that spoke them forth and 2 Pet. 1. 20. 21. are of no private interpretation but were given forth to be read and fulfilled in the Saints as they were given forth by the Rev. 22. 18. Holy Ghost without adding or diminishing and were not given forth for men to make a Trade on to get money by but as they are they are profitable for Doctrine for reproofe for correction 2 Tim. 3. 16. 17. for instruction in righteousness that the may of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto every good work But they who trade in the Letter and are ignorant of the M●●●●y deny all perfection and none can rightly understand the Scriptures but thay who read them with the same spirit that gave them forth 1 Cor 2. 14 15. for the 〈…〉 man understands not the things of God for they are spiritually discerned 3. Concerning Baptisme the true Baptisme is that of the spirit with the holy Ghost and with fire Baptized by one spirit into onebody not the washing away the filth of the flesh but the answer of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection Acts 1. 5. Jesus Christ without which no other Baptism can save us they being out figures or shadows but this Baptism of Christ Gal. 3. 27. is the substance whereby we are baptized into his death and those that are bapized into Christ have put on Christ 4. Concerning the Lords Supper The true Supper of the Lord is the spiritual eating and drinking of the flesh and blood Mat. 26. 26. 28. of Christ spiritually which the Spirituall man only eateth and is thereby nourished up unto carnall life without which Iohn 6. 51. 53 54 55 56. eating there can be no life in creature profess what you will and all who eat of this bread and drink of this cup have reall communion in Christ the head and also one with 1 Cor. 11. 24. 25. another as members and are of one heart and one minde a compleat body in Christ Now the world who take onely Col. 2. 10. the outward fignes and are not brought in discerning of the Lords body eat drink domnation to themselves become guilty 1 Cor. 11. 27 28 29. of the body and blood of Christ and cals this a Communion but lives in envy strif and debate fighting and going to Law one with another for earthly hings 5. Concerning the Resurrection That all shall arise to give an account and receive at the last day according to their works Iohn 5. 29. whether good or evill These bodies that are dust shall turn to 1 Cor. 15. 38. dust but God shall give a body as pleaseth him that which is sown in corruption shall be raised in incorruption it is sown a 1 Cor. 15. 42 43 44. naturall body it is raised a spirituall body and as we have borne the image of the earthly so we shall hear the image of the Rev. 2. 6. heavenly but flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of heaven neither doth corruption inherit incorruption for we 1 Cor. 15. 20. must be changed But they who cannot witnesse the first Resurrection within themselves know nothing of the second but by heatsay and therefore say some of your Teachers that Christ 1 Cor. 15. 47. is in Heaven with a carnal body Now that Christ who is the si si it fruits should be in Heaven with a carnall body and the Saints with a spirtuall body is not proportionable 6. Concerning Magistracy It is an Ordinance of God Ordained for the punishment of evil doers and an encouragement for them that do well Where Justice and righteousnesss is the head and ruleth with out partiality that Land is kept in peace and those that judge for the Lord I honour as my own life not with a sluttering honour putting off he hat and bowing of the knee which is the honor of the world having mens persens Jude 16. in admiration because of advantage for self ends but from my heart for conscience sake as to the power which is of God not to mens persons for the Scripture saith he that respects persons commits sin and is convinced of the Law as a transgressor and the Apostle Iames commands the Saints not to have the Jam. 2. 9. faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory with respect of Iam. 2. 1 2 3 4. persons for saith he such are partial
canst here before the Magistrates But not being able to prove any one he began to accuse James for holding out a light that doth convince of sin Which Saith the Priest all have not To which James said Put out one in all this great multitude that dare say he hath it not Saith the Priest Thes are al Christians but if a Turk or Indian were here he would deny it James said Thou goest far for a proof but if a Turk were here he would witness against thee The people beginning to fight the Priest turned away saying Here will be a disturbance Said James These are thy Christians and this is the fruits of thy Ministery But the Justice with some other did endeavour to keep the rude people off him so that they could not come to their purpose there but he being to passe over the Bridge and throughth Town they that were of the Priests party ran before sweaning they would throw him off the Bridge into the water but comming thither and seeing heir purpose he was encouraged in his God who gave him assurance of protection and did wonderfully keep him and those that were with him for when he came unto the Bridge the word of the Lord came unto him and he was made to cry out against their rage and the power of the Lord was with him so that he received no harm though he was made to speak all along and in the Market place and til he came out of the Town But the raging people continued shouting crying and throwing of stones at him a quarter of a mile out of the Town But such was the power of the Lord that neither he nor any with him received any harm The work was wonderful and we were brought much to admire it end praise the Lord who is blessed for euer and ever Another time Iames being desires of many Christian friends to be at a meeting at Orton there to wait upon the Lord for what he would make known to his people did accordingly and many friends and brethren accompanied him but the Priests having intelligence some days before five of them were gathered together and many people from all quarters A friend in the Town desired Iames to come to his house and being come into his house a message was sent from the Priests desiring him to come into the field under pretence for a more convenient place for the great multitude To which Iames answered It is my desire that all may be edified and comming into the field the Priests came with a great multitude and asked him by what authority he came thither and had gathered together so many people to break the peace and tempting him said Wilt thou he bound that none here shall break the Peace To which Iames answered We come not hither to create offences but if any break the Law let him suffer by the Law for he perceived they intended violence as it appeared afterwards But seeing they could not prevail in that mother of them desired him to go into the Church as he called it tempted him saying The people may all sit and hear better But Iames perceiving their deceit said All places were alike to him he would abide in the field Wherein they pulled out an Ordinance of Parliament forbidding any to speak but such as were authorized to speak either in Church or Chappel or an publick place and bade him speak at his peril as he would an wet the contempt of it To which he answered saying This is not a publick place No said one of the Priest Is not this a publick place the Town field and charged the Constable of the Town to do his office and examined his authority Iames answered Those that are sent to declare the things of God have not their authority from men But they bad him prove that He said Paul received not his commission from man nor by man To which one of 〈◊〉 answered That was his Gospel but they would prove saint Paul had a call from man to preach and for that end 〈◊〉 that place in Acts 13. 2. where the Holy Ghost sad Separate me Barnabas and Saul and the Apostles laid their hands upon them which said one of them 〈◊〉 Presbytery 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 was the laying on of hands of the 〈◊〉 But when he had found that place James asked him it that was Pauls call to the Ministry three times but he answared nothing Then said James If that was his call he had preached long without a call before that and instanced to prove it Gal. 1. Whereupon that business ended But another Preist stood up and said Thou oughtest to give an account of thy Faith to every one that a keth whereupon he asked divers questions whereunto James answered in so much that some that stood by cryed out Answer not all but ask him some A while after Iames asked him how he would proved himselfe a Minister of the Gospel and live upon Tithes To which he would not answer Then said Iames Neither will I answer thee if thou ask me twenty more The next question he asked was Whether Christ was ascended or no but Iames said I will not answer thee Whereupon he cryed out to the people and said he denies the humanity of Christ and made a great out cry among the people of it But the people cryed out saying Let us hear him you have often told us many things against him let him speak and then if he speak not truth you may then reprove him Iames hearing the desire of the people began to speak and the people gave audience and were very silent But beginning to hold out Christ alone to be the Teacher of his people in spirit and truth one of the Priest cryed out I cannot endure to hear this Seducer any longer Vpon which Iames said Prove me a Seducer before all this people or else thou art a false Accuser But he had not one word to say against any thing that he had spoken But said If thou wilt not answer me that Question I asked thee I will call thee a Seducer as long as I live Whereupon seeing there could be no peace there nor liberty to speak they desired Iames to goe into the house and they kept closed about him to keep him from violence of some that came along with the Priest but they raged so that he 〈◊〉 other friends received stripes with much ad● got to the house But the raging Sodomites waited about the door to do mischief and kept shouting about the house all the while he was speaking but the house being filled with people they could not come to their purpose and the Lord so ordered it in the Evening we came away without any more harm but not long after there came some of the Priests party about the house and asked if Nayler was gone and when they heard he was gone they said He may thank God of that Thus by the wisedom of God he escaped their violence at that
the Prodigal ye Luk 15. 24. the Scripture faith This my Son was dead and is alive againe but thou art withput God in the world Object 2. That the day of judgement was past Answ Christ speaks The bruted reed he will not break the Mat. 12. 20. smoaking flax he will not quench till he bring forth judgment into victory Here thou shewest thy sel●e to be ignorant of the Scripture but only as a near-sayer thou speakest and the outside of the Letter and not Christ and canst not witness him who beings forth judgement into victory but standest as a witness against them who witness the Scriptures fulfilled in them and Chri beinging forth judgement into victory and here thou shewest thy se●●e to be unacquainted with Christ and thy nakedness and ignorance thou makest appear Object 3. That he had been in Hell and is now in Heaven Answ Here thou shewest thy selfe to be a witness against the holy men of God Jonah saith Ou● of the belly of He●l cryed Jon. 2. I and thou heardest my voice and the Lord delivered him out of Hell and might n●t 〈◊〉 co●f●s●● thou H●pocrit For thou wilt not leave my soul in Hell neither will thou suffer thy Ps 16. 10. boly One to see corruption Thou hast delivered my son out of death bless the Lord my soul and all that is within me bless Ps 103. 1 2. his holy name How derest thou profess the Scriptures and the holy men of Gods conditions which were raised and brought our of death and witness the holy me lot Gods condition thou persecutest then O thou blind my pocrite I here thou shewest thou never lawest Holis mouth yet therefore thou never cryedst in Hell yet Object 4. That he was came to the infinite company of the first born and the spirits of just men made perfect Answ Paul said who was a Minster of God But ye are come to Mount Sion and to the City of the living God the Heavenly Heb. 12. 22. Ierusalem and to an innumerable company of Angels to the general Assembly and Church of the first born which are written in heaven unto God the Iudge of all and to the spirits of just men made perfect Paul was a Minister of Iesus Christ by the will of God who encouraged the Saints who were brought hither but thou new perseeutest them and art a witnes against them that confess they are brought hither here thou shewest thou hast the spirit of error openly and art no Minister of God no not of the Letter but art against the Letter as it speaks persecuting them that have the life of it Object 5. That he had heard the last Trumpet sound and seen the new Ierusalem Answ Here thou shewest forth thy spite and venome If Iohn was here which saw the great City and holy Ierusalem descend out of Heaven from God Iohn said I saw the holy City New Ierusalem come down from God out of Heaven thou wouldst be a witness against him and thou shewest thy self in the generation that was ever persecutors slandere's opposers of the power of truth Where the same spirit is that was in Iohn he sees these things now as he did then but where the same spirit is not which thou shewest thou hast not but a contrary spirit that pesecutes them which do see those things but is as a dog to bite and devour Iohn saw the last Trumpet sound which shews thou art not come to the first Blow the trumpet in Sion sound Joel 2. 1. an allarum in my holy mountain let all the inhabitants of the earth tremble Here be thou a witness against thy self that thou art a witness against the truth and in the generation of them that ever slow the righteous ●eed Obj. 6. That John Lawson said he had seen God face to face Ans Here thou shewest thy self to be a witness against them that know God and makest thy selfe manifest to be a Heathen 〈◊〉 all are Heathens ●●at do not know God and no man knoweth God saving he that is born of God and who ere born of God are owners of the Truth and not against it but against the deceit Iacob said I have seen God face to face Isaiah Gen 32. Isa 6. 5. and Mine eyes have seen the King the Lord of Hasts Iob and I have heard of thee by the hearing of the care but now Job 42 5. ●●ne eyes have seen thee And God spake to Moses face to Exod 33. 11. 〈◊〉 Here you may take your oaths and swear against Iacob ●gainst Isaiah against Iob and against Moses Where the false spirit is made manifest and who are born of God know God face to face as they did but they who are born of the flesh persecute them who are born of the spirit and there you shew your selves to be taking oaths and swearing against them that know God seeking to bring them to prison or bondage for you never read in all the Scriptures that the Prophets or the Apostles took their oaths against any which confessed they had seen God or put up a Petition to the Magistrates or witnessed it with oaths against any of them the Ministers of God said Swear not at all And here you shew your selves to be no Ministers of God but without God for the Ministers of God are to bring people to know God and to the Church in God and to the heavenly Jerusalem and to the innumerable company of Angels and Ministers to that which is in prison and in death but if any come to witnesse these things fulfilled you are witnesses against them with oaths and would bring the bodies of such into prison where the seed of God is raised out of prison within shewing your selves to be Antichrists persecuters of the power of Truth and beasts which shall make war against the Saints and against the Lamb but the Lamb shall get the victory Job cryed when the Lord hid his face and David cryed when the Lord hid his face and said O Lord I will seek thy face And here you shew you neither know his face nor have seen it but are persecuters of them who know it and seek it Praises praises be to the Lord for ever FINIS