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A01703 A fruitful sermon preached at Occham in the county of Rutland, the second of Nouember, 1583 by Thomas Gybson. Gybson, Thomas, fl. 1583. 1584 (1584) STC 11840.5; ESTC S2130 26,976 78

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iugements and condemnation of the wicked I finde then that the impenitent and suche as continue in their sinnes could not bee saued God could not forgiue them here vpon some haue sayd and doe say still of mee that I preached that God could not forgiue sinnes I sayde and I say agayne the Lorde is as true in his iustice as in his mercie Christ saieth except ye amend ye shall all perish and againe he that beleeueth not is damned Saint Paul sayth no whoremonger nor adulterer no vnrighteous or vncleane persone shall inherite the kingdome of Heauen This is asmuche as I saied and in effect all that I saide woe bee to me if I preache not the Gospell Now Repentaunce is a parte of the Gospell and that wee maie repent it is needfull to knowe our sinnes and as the sinnes of all men must bee reproued and the iudgementes of GOD threatened against them so especially the sinnes of publique persones as Magistrates and Ministers And if this in no case will bee borne but he that doth it is straight way blamed alas what shall wee doe If wee speake against the people they are greeued they saie we deale hardly with them but looke not to our selues or to the higher powers If wee deale against Gentlemen and greate men wee are hated euill spoken of and abused If wee speake against the ignoraunt and carelesse Ministers they are also offended and saye wee lacke discretion charitie and modestie Thus daungerous a thing it is to preache the Gospell yea euen amongst them that glorie in the Gospell so that as our state standeth it mate bee saied cleane contrarie to the saying of the Apostle in this place Woe to them that preache the Gospell and happie are they which preache not the Gospell and they are coumpted wisest whiche either holde their peace or els meddle not with this parte of the Gospell But the faithfull Minister how soeuer he seeme to be discouraged by suche wicked and vnthankfull dealinges of the worlde yet he is to comforte himself in the Lorde and to feare GOD more then men It is farre better to discharge our dueties faithfully with a good conscience although wee procure displeasure of men then by leauing our duetie vndone or by doyng the Lordes worke negligently and vnfaithfully to procure the displeasure and heauie curse of God The holie Apostle hath spoken it woe bee to me it I preache not the Gospell And to aunswere them somewhat which blame vs for dealing so hardly and openly against the sinnes of the Ministers Is it not a parte of discretion to reproue their sinnes whiche doe most hurte and are the causes of many other sinnes this is that discretion whiche was vsed by the holy Prophetes euery where They crie out against the negligence of the Priestes against their ignoraunce carelesnesse and leude conuersation Amongst many and infinite places I referre you that one place in the Prophet Malachie who dealeth so hardly and particularly with the Priests as though all sinne had been in them No doubt there were many sinnes amongst the people and yet in all his Prophesie he seemeth to deale specially almost onely against the Priestes being in deede the causes and the authors of the sinnes of the people yea and these were suche Priestes as were ordeined of GOD as were the successors of Aaron and the tipes of Iesus Christe and yet are so sharply and publiquely reproued by the Prophet This discretion was vsed by Christ himself How often times together doeth he pronounce woe against the Scribes and Pharises calling them Hypocrites fooles blind guides Serpentes and generation of Uypers yea how often times doeth he most sharply and openly rebuke his owne Apostles Perceiue ye not yet saieth he neither vnderstand haue you your hartes yet hardened haue you eyes and see not haue ye eares and heare not and doe ye not remember Are not these my bretheren very hard wordes and suche wordes as are vsed in the Scriptures against the very reprobate and yet the Lorde Iesus vseth them against his owne Apostles In an other place he reproueth them for their vnbeleefe and hardnesse of harte How sharply doeth the Apostle deale in all his Epistles against false Apostles Naye did he not repoue openly to his face Peter the Apostle and his fellowe minister because he went not the right waie to the truthe of the Gospell So that it is not onely lawfull but also necessarie that the sinnes of all states and specially of the greatest and of the Ministers bee sharply and openly reprooued The holy Apostle saieth Them that sinne openly rebuke openly that the rest also maie feare But are not the sinnes of our Ministers open Is not their ignoraunce apparant Is not their idlenesse and carelesnesse knowne Doeth not the common sorte of people see it And are not some of them faine to seeke for instruction in other places Dooe not many complaine of the liues of the Ministers Dooe they not saye commonly of them they speake well and dooe euill They bee as couetous as others they haue neuer enough doe not the people see this and a greate deale more Are not these open offenders Doeth not duetie discretion and charitie binde the Preacher if he will faithfully preache the Gospell to reproue them seuerally whiche giue cause of suche offences The Apostle vseth this modestie against himself Woe be to me if I preach not the Gospell which woe signifieth no light small or easie matter but greeuous curse of GOD in this life and that fearefull condemnation in the life to come Can they bee too sharpely reprooued or can any speeches bee too harde for them whiche are ignoraunt and carelesse in so greate a light of the Gospell after so long profession whiche shoulde bee guides to others whiche haue so many excellent meanes so greate helpes of knowledge offered to them by the Lorde in these dayes whiche we liue in Can they bee too muche or to often spoken against which are ignoraunt and will bee ignoraunt whiche mistike those that reprooue them whiche hate all that are not like themselues whiche seeke to deface the painefull Minister yea stande in defence of their owne wickednesse Is not this to binde sinne together with Cart-ropes Sinne not twise saieth the wise man for one sinne shall not be vnpunished therefore take heede in tyme and amende or els you perish Say what you will thinke what you will the Lorde is my witnesse I speake the truthe I knowe I might bee better thought of to passe euer suche matters but woe bee to mee if I preache not the Gospell But it may bee yet that some will saye although this bee true that you haue spoken yet all truthe is not to bee spoken at all times in all places and to all persones The Minister must cut the word of GOD aright like a wise Steward he must giue meate in due season To these men I aunswer that no necessarie truthe is to bee hidden
from the Churche of GOD. And to speake more fully and directly to the purpose as touchyng this matter of the necessitie of preachyng of the miserable estate of them that be with out it and of suche Ministers as preathe not this matter I say in my conscience with wisdome and discretion may be spoken priuately or openly where soeuer when so euer and before whom soeuer there is no place but it hath need of this doctrin no time but it requireth it no persons that it is not meet for It is most fit and conuenient most profitable and necessarye for all states and degrees of men high and low rich and poore strong and weake learned and vnlearned Princes Nobles Bishops Preachers dumbe Ministers and people all haue need of this doctrine They which haue knowledge haue need of it that they may know what they haue beene that they maye see what they are c be thankfull to God The ignorant sort haue need of this doctrine that they may feel their miserable estate and so seek for help and remedy Princes Nobles and gentlemen haue neede of this doctrine and it is fit and necessary to be preached before them that knowing the necessity and worthines of preaching they may be more carefull and liberall to maintaine it and with better conscience bestow their liuinges The learned Bishops haue neede of this doctrine it is chiefly to be vrged before them and they are continually to remember it least they lay hands rashly on any man and so be partakers of other mens sins The wise and Godly Preachers haue neede of this doctrine that they may be comforted and stirred vp to greater zeal and trauail ignorant ministers haue need of this doctrine that they may see the damnable state they stande in and so either amende if it will be or els giue thēselues to some other calling more fit and profitable for them Let this doctrine be stayed Let men be perswaded as they are of them selues that they are in good state without the word preached that bare reading wil serue the tourne the people waxe carelesse and make no account of preaching For they thinke they are wel inough and best of al without it the people of God shal lack their strēgthening their growing in faith and knowledge Princes and Gentlemen wil make no account as they do but little alreadie how or on whom they bestow their liuinges The preachers shal be nothing set by the Idol ministers encouraged y e famous vniuersities decated ouerthrown in a word y t concealing hindring withstāding this doctrine is the next way to cast down al religion learning to bring princes nobles rich poore ministers people to hipocrisie and Atheisme The lord therfore open y e mouthes of his faithful ministers to y e dayly vrging of this so necessary a doctrine y t the prince may be strengthened the Nobles stirred vp all good ministers encouraged the poore people instructed ignoraunce idolatry defaced religion and knowledge of God may flowe thorow the whol land that at y e length al ignorāt careles ministers may be ashamed euery congregatiō may haue a faithful seuerall a resident Pastor Thus we haue seene at large y t whosoeuer wil preach y t Gospel faithfully and profitably he must first of all chiefly vrge the doctrine of repentaunce which men can neuer haue before they know their sins by the law of God and therefore the sins of all men muste be throughly and sharply reprooued and chiefly the sins of them which do most hurt and giue greatest occasion of offence as the sin of the magistrate and the minister Now indeed to repentance ther must be ioyned also the doctrine of remission of sinnes through Christ But this belongeth onely to them that repent that are humbled and cast down that feele in their conscience the torment of sinne and condemnation to such belongeth remission of sinnes to such it is to be offered and preached but it doth not appertaine to ignorant and sencelesse men to hipocrites infidels Atheistes Iusticiaries prophane and carnall men these haue nothing to do with the doctrine of remission of sins And because this age is altogether secure and carelesse ful of iniquitie of ignorance disobedience vnthankfulnesse and contempt of the worde it is vnworthie of the doctrine of mercie and remission of sinnes so much the more vnworthy as the benefites of God in so great measure and so long a time haue beene receiued without any profit at all so that in many ther is nothing stil but ignorance and Idolatry in others lesse zeal and religion lesse godlinesse of life then was in them many yeares agoe and are these men worthy of mercy Is remission of sins to be preached and offered to them nay the former doctrin of repentaunce of the lawe of reproouing sinne of denouncing the iudgements of God against all states and degrees This part of the Gospell I say is most fit and needful for such an age And woe be to vs if we preach not the Gospell Consider also I besech you here before we goe to an ende the excellency and worthinesse of the preaching of the gospel It is smal accounted of in the worlde it is thought a vile and a simple office it is contemned and dispised of the most part But if these mē knew the sweet and excellent things contained and offered in the Gospell which is the matter of preaching they woulde also know the worthinesse of this so high a calling that the excellēcy therof may more clearly appeare let vs adde some further proofe of this matter And first remember that this calling of the ministery preaching of y e word is no deuise of any mortall man but the ordinance of the liuing God It was he y e ordayned Moses the prophetes The prophesy came not in the old time by the will of man but holy men of God spake as they were mooued by the holy Ghoste The Lorde Iesus himself called appointed sent foorth into y e world his Apostles to preach y e gospell It is the holy ghost which ordaineth faythfull ouerseers to feede the Church of God It is Christe also at this day which appointeth pastors and teachers for the gathering together of his saints It must needes be a worthy and an honourable calling which hath so worthy authors euen God him self his sonne Christ Iesus the holy ghost yea and not only so but as worthy haue exercised practised this calling The first preacher y t euer was in the world was God him selfe he preached to Adam in paradise that comfortable Gospel the seed of y e woman shall destroy the Serpentes head After that he stirred vp Noe Lot Moses and the prophetes men of singular credite and authoritie Nay what shal I speake of Dauid and Solomon of the which the one was a most victorious prince and the other most wealthy yet they