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A86726 An Humble advise to the right honorable the lord mayor, the recorder, and the rest of the justices of the honorable bench to the goodmen of the jury, aud [sic] at the Sessions House in the Old-Bayley, London, in behalf of Mr. John Bidle, prisoner in Newgate. 1654 (1654) Wing H3396; ESTC R42339 15,114 16

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opinions which are charged upon M. Bidle which for more easie consideration present themselves in this form That he is indicted as a Blasphemer for denying the Vnity in Trinity and the Trinity in Vnity that the Father is the most high God the Son the most high God and the Holy Ghost the most high God and these are not three most high Gods but one most high God This any man may affirm he believeth and most men do affirm they do believe it and it is like the Informers would not scruple to swear they do believe it as those of the former times no doubt would have sworn they both understood and believed the real presence in the Sacrament but dealing clearly and conscientiously with your own hearts Is not this a mystery most difficult to be understood Can any thing be more mysterious Do you imagine that one of an hundred understands it who yet through fear of the Law and awe of death sayes he believes it Is any point in Christianity more obscure in Scripture Why did not Athenasius affix those places of Scripture to his Creed upon which he grounds his judgment whereas in place whereof he gives you only this for proof That as we be compelled by the Christian verity to believe what in this his Creed he affirms ought to be believed so saith he are we forbidden by the Catholike Religion to acknowledg whatsoever he therein denies Now you know the Real Presence was a long time here taken for a main part of Christian verity and men were interdicted and forbidden under pain of death to deny it by the Catholike Religion for the Church of Rome was thought to be no lesse then the Catholike unerring Church so as this his Christian verity and this his Catholike Religion are in these times of enquiry but slender proofs and may very well admit of dispute and a demand of plain Scripture proof to prove them and it is a very hard case if men for argument sake may not deny any thing Athenasius therein affirms or affirm any thing he therein denies the purpose and intention being to see what Scriptures can be brought for full proof of the things disputed nay if any conscientious Christian shall really think Athenasius mistaken in his mysterious opinions what offence is it to declare his thoughts and to deny them Every one knows by pro and con truth comes to be established it is only error that requires no arguments or disputations but that of Law and the Sword on its side unhallowed weapons to combat with error truth being ever Vanquisher where those odds are not It is not denied that the most mysterious opinions may be true but it must be only Scripture that proves them so and then if freedom of dispute and argument be allowed the more these truths are opposed or denied the clearer the truth ever appeareth truth being like that house built upon the Rock that stands the firmer for being assaulted error like the house built upon the Sand which had need keep opposition far from her by the out works of Law and threats of death for so you see it speeds best and continues longest as that abominable error of the Real Presence which whilst hedged about by Authoriry and Law was with the slightest arguments and even with Scriptures abused able and did even in this place deprive many of Gods dear ones of their liberties yea of their very lives by the most cruel tormenting deaths their malicious Prosecutors and Informers could devise An Heretique he was that denied the Real Presence that the Parliament Law enacted and an Heretique or Blasphemer must be put to death that also the Parliament took care for They also made the poor besotted superstitious people believe that it suffized not except the Scriptures warranted it and therefore they never failed to urge the Scripture in Titus 3.10 11. A man that is an Heretique after the first and second admonition reject knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth being condemned of himself So then say they as some will not fail to apply it to M. Bidle the Prisoner at the Bar is an Heretique why for he denieth the Body and Blood of Christ to be really and corporally in the Sacrament so such an one is a sinner and perverted from the Christian verity and from the Catholike Religion and is condemned of him self Yes saith the Arch-bishop it is impossible but he must condemn himself his evil is so palpable only he is obstinate and will not acknowledg or confesse it Well then what is to be done with such an Heretique Why the Scripture saith after the first and second admonition reject We and our Clergy have admonished him often and again to forsake his wicked Heresie yet still he persists therefore is to be rejected that is say they and the ignorant seduced Juries of those times believed them let him be put to death yea say they the Scripture is plain Gal. 5.12 I would they were even cut off then trouble you which though every conscientious Christian knew in the Apostles sense never intended more then an Excommunication as doth also the forecited reject yet these false counterfeiting Apostles never failed to interpret a cutting off by death But to strengthen these further they urge 2 Pet. 2.1 with great vehemency against the poor innocents But there were false Prophets also among the people even as there shall be false teachers among you who privily shall bring in damnable heresies even denying the Lord that bought them and bring upon themselves swift destruction This nail they drive home into the Saints Temples crying out These are they that deny the Lord that bought them for they deny him to be corporally present in the Holy Sacrament away with them to fire and faggot for they bring upon themselves swift destruction And this place of Scripture was so violently urged in the late Parliament against Mr. Bidle and made or seemed to make so deep an impression in the very zealous part of them that they were even ready to Vote upon a swift and sudden death and were very hardly with-held from it nay had done it but that the more conscientious amongst them replied soberly that this place of Scripture could not possibly be applied to M. Bidle it being evident that he was so far from denying the Lord Jesus Christ to be the Lord that bought him or from denying him to be the Messiah the Christ the Redeemer that all the writings called his and his discourses did manifest that he did believe in his heart and confesse with his mouth the Lord Jesus to be his Lord and his God as afore is more largely expressed which if it shall please you to consider together with what in the third ver is said of the false Teachers viz. and through covetousness shall they with feigned words make Merchandize of you ye will find it reaches not Mr. Bidle in the least none in the world being more free from the loathsome sin of covetousnesse or from making Merchandize of any every one that knows him knoweth that he having food and rayment is therewithall content and that he if any one in the world accounts godlinesse with content the greatest gain in so as when all the whole Scriptures are searched for matter against Mr. Bidle let them be but impartially considered and they will appear no more in justification of his molestation imprisonment or further punishment then they were in approving the barbarous cruelties inflicted upon those former sufferers So that upon your serious consideration of all things it cannot be doubted but that Mr. Bidle is as safe whilst your Christian consciences thus rightly informed stand between him and death as if he were at his own disposing and being so through your godly care of him you will acquit your selves as wise and discreet Christians in the sight of God and stanch that innocent Blood which hath violently been let run formerly in this place upon like occasions and free both your selves your posterity and this Honorable City from Judgments and plagues due for the same Now the God of peace that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus that great Shepherd of the Sheep through the Blood of the everlasting Covenant make you perfect in every good work to do his will working in you that which is well pleasing in his sight through Jesus Christ to whom be glory for ever and ever Amen FINIS