Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	know_v	lord_n	people_n	3,995	5	4.7037	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A42357	Protesters no subverters, and presbyterie no papacie; or, A vindication of the protesting brethren, and of the government of the kirk of Scotland from the aspersions unjustly cast upon them, in a late pamphlet of some of the resolution-party, entituled, A declaration, &c. With a discovery of the insufficiency, inequality and iniquity of the things propounded in that pamphlet, as overtures of union and peace. Especially, of the iniquity of that absolute and unlimited submission to the sentences of church-judicatories that is holden forth therein, and most unjustly pleaded to belong to the being and essence of presbyterial government. By some witnesses to the way of the protestation.	Guthrie, James, 1612?-1661, attributed name.	1658 (1658)	Wing G2264; ESTC R221886	66,607	126

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1638._o betwixt_o the_o well-affected_a and_o the_o popish_a and_o prelatical_a and_o malignant_a party_n they_o may_v take_v one_o instance_n of_o many_o to_o wit_v the_o desire_n of_o the_o commission_n of_o the_o general_n assembly_n in_o anno_fw-la 1648._o concerning_o the_o unlawful_a engagement_n among_o which_o that_o about_o the_o qualification_n of_o instrument_n be_v one_o of_o the_o chief_a we_o desire_v they_o to_o remember_v what_o spirit_n that_o man_n will_v have_v beenjudge_v of_o who_o in_o the_o assembly_n anno_fw-la 1650._o shall_v have_v plead_v that_o to_o be_v a_o question_n much_o extrinsic_a to_o our_o doctrine_n worship_n and_o government_n and_o that_o it_o will_v furnish_v just_a ground_n of_o complaint_n against_o the_o assembly_n if_o they_o shall_v because_o thereof_o divide_v from_o the_o parliament_n which_o carry_v on_o that_o unlawful_a engagement_n in_o war_n against_o england_n 3._o if_o our_o brethren_n do_v indeed_o judge_v this_o question_n to_o 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