fiâ—st was naturall and the second spirituall and here thou speaks contrary to the Scriptures which saith he is the expresse image of the Father and here in all who do witness the Scriptures to be true must witness against thee who speaks contrary to the Scriptures and now to blind peoples eyes thou tells them thou understands it thus Adam was made after the Image of God God the Father Son and the holy Spirit come let us make man after our not my image To this I answer here thou hast added to the Scripture for God did not say not my image as thou doth charge him to say for the Scripture saith God created man in his own image in the image of God created he him as Gen. 1. 27. thou calls that image in which Adam was created the essentiall image and the image of Christ thou calls a personall image and here by them who dwell in the light thou art seen out of the substance in the images making to thy self images and likenesses from thy imaginations but in them thou canst not know God and Christ nor the image of God in which Adam was created in innocency and there is no such word in Scripture as essentiall image and here thou goes about to make three images and so amongst the image-makers thou art who art out of Gods commands and there thou may read thy self But now the Lord God is gathering his own seed by his eternall light out of all images and likenesses to be conformed to the image of his Son and to bear his image who is invisible which all the imaginers cannot enter into who stumble at the light but all such are seen by the children of the light and denied for now do they witness from the Lord the day of redemption yea plentious redemption is now witnessed by them who dwells in the light which comprehends the world and out of the world and out of the worlds teachings and out of the worlds ways and out of the worlds worships into the pure teachings of God into the Covenant where they know God are taught of him and no more can they be led by the blind guids for their eyes are opened which were blind now in the light of Christ the way is seen which leads unto God the Father of light in it all false prophets false teachers they do see by them cannot be deceived who come in sheeps cloathing and are beautifull outwardly decked with the Saints words but inwardly ravening Wolves and now their covering comes to be taken off which was none of there own and now the Wolf appears ravening against the Lambs of God for the day hath made them manifest and of them the Lambs of God are aware and in Innocency is preserved and in the pure wisdome which is not of this world in it they see and comprehend the serpents wisdome and subtility and craftiness and snares which for the righteous seed is laid but in the eternall lightmade manifest to the seed a way is seen out of then all and by the eternall power of the pure living God of life deliverance out of them all is witnessed eternall pure living prayses to him for evermore Given forth from the Love of God to the souls of those who desire to know the truth to take away all stumblings and cut of all occasions from all minds that in the light of Christ the truth they may see to be clear from all slanders and false accusations which from the unclean spirits proceed which goeth out of the mouth of the Dragon to devoure the innocent but from the dragon and all his floods the innocent is preserved Given forth from him who a witness stands for the truth of God against all deceipt Richard Hubberthorne Written from Mendlesham in Suffolk the 29. day of the 3. Month 1655. FINIS
bring this scripture in thy paper yet it thou canst not own that the grace of God which bringeth salvation to all men hath appeared who denies Christ to have enlightned every one that comes into the world This word for the manner of delivery unto us is called Priest scripture and we are commanded to search it Joh. 4. 39. and laid under the promise of blessing in that way Psal 1. 2. Here thou hast numbered thy self amongst those whom Answ Christ commanded to search the scriptures and amongst them shalt thou be numbered and in that scripture thou may read thy condition and the rest of the priests with thee as John 37. 38. 39. 40. ye have neither heard his voice at any time nor seen his shape and ye have not his word abiding in you for whom he hath sent ye him believe not search the scriptures for in them ye think to have eternall life and they are they which testifie of me and ye will not come to me that ye might have life now al you who are in the same condition the same command is unto you But there is no promise of blessing promised unto you in that way no more then was to them which was so commanded but never prove your selves ministers of Christ for they were no ministers of Christ that this was spoken unto nor no Saints but such as received honour one of another as you do who are in that generation And they were such as did not believe that which they did professe Moses the Prophets but Christ tells them plainly they did not believe Moses nor his writings and all you now that professe Christ you cannot believe Christs words who saith he is the true light which doth enlighten every one that cometh into the world Therefore out of the doctrine of Christ you are shut and out of the scriptures which you do professe for the Sons life which witnesseth the scriptures you deny and are strangers unto he that hath an care to heare let him heare Satan hath from the beginning envied a people this Priest priviledge and saith at Christs first coming the commandements of God was made of none effect through tradition Mat. 15. 6. and saith at Christs second coming the commandements of God will be of none effect through revelation Here thou hast uttered forth words without knowledge Answ but it is that thy Ignorance and folly may be layed open unto all for it was they that made the commandements of God of none effect through tradition which precryed standing in the Sinagogues had the chiefest places in the assemblies and was called of men master and in these steps art thou and the rest of the priests in England who art the same things for at Christs first coming he cried wo against such and the same Christ crys wo against the same things now and whereas thou saiest that at Christs second coming the commandements of God will be of none effect through revelation here I charge thee to be a blasphemer and dost speake that thou hast no scripture for and contrary to the scriptures and contrary to the Apostles doctrine for Paul did witnesse Christ second coming which was in the spirit as in Gallatians 2. and 2. and saith I went up by revelation and communicated unto them that Gospell which I preached amongst the gentiles and he did witnesse the Son of God revealed in him and all the Apostles who did witnesse him to be come again to them the second time to reveal the will of the Father unto them this did not make the commandements of God of none effect the same Christ we do witnesse to be come and hath revealed the Fathers will unto us for no man knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveales him this we do witnesse eternall living prayses to him for ever more and by his revealing his Son in us his commandements are fulfilled and so all such we do deny that say by the revelation at the second coming of Christ they shall be made of none effect Certainly many old Testament Saints saw into the Priest glory and liberty of New Testament times yet durst not cease from that worship which was burdensome worldly and carnall till the Lord did come in person and call them out Here I do charge thee to prove where ever any of the Answ Saints before Christ was made manifest in the flesh did continue in that worship which they saw to be burdensome worldly and carnall but did declare against all false worship sacrifices and services which was worldly and carnal and against all who drew near to God with their mouths whose harts was from God and against all Idolitrous worships which were carnall did cast of every burden as is witnessed in the prophets which were before Christ came in the flesh and here all the prophets and holy men of God shall witnesse against thee as Isaiah Jerem. David Ezek Mica and the rest who worshipped God and their worship was not carnall nor worldly neither did Christ come in person to call them out of their worship for they had finished their testimony before Christ came in the flesh who did fulfill their testimony and did bear witnesse unto it that it was of God and did declare all that were out of that worship which the Saints were in who worshipped God before Christ came in the flesh who was the end of the Law and the end of the Prophets let him that hath understanding read these things now here doth Christ the Saints the Scriptures all bear witness against thee and thy doctrine which would make people believe that the Prophets and holy men of God who were before Christ came in the flesh did live and continue in that worship which was burdensome worldly and carnall which here is proved against thee by Christ the Saints the Scriptures that shame may cover thy face and that thy mouth may be stopped and that the simple may know the truth for whose sakes this is given forth So New Testament Saints may se into that liberty and Priest glory which is to be revealed but let them not go forth before the time but abide in New Testament worship till the Lord come in person and call them out and then they shall go out all together Matt. 24. 27. it is indeed a worthy life which we live in the spirit but it is an unworthy deceipt that except we live out of the Gospell we cannot live in the spirit O be ashamed for ever to professe thy self a minister Answ of Christ and of the Gospell why dost thou preach at all or what art thou a minister of if that Christ be vet to be revealed or uncome in person which thou houlds forth to the people and how many souls hast thou led into that pit of darkness and blindness as to believe that Christ is yet to come in person he that confesseth not
Jesus Christ to be come in the flesh is an antichrist and he that preacheth any other Gospell or any other Christ then that which did come in the flesh and was made manifest in the Saints and is now made manifest and witnessed to be come in the flesh let him be accursed now the Scripture which thou brings in Matth. 24. 27. proves no such thing as another Christ coming in person for the same Scripture we do witnesse to be fulfilled in us and in his light do we see all those who are in the desert and who are in the secret chambers whom they go out unto who turn from the light of Christ within them to harken unto those who cannot witnesse the coming of the son of man as the lighting from the East shineth even unto the West but talks of an expectation of the appearance of Christ in person and professed to be ministers of that Christ which yet is to come in person and here thou art rased out from the Apostles doctrine who did not preach any other Christ but that which was come and made manifest and did never tell of Christ second coming in person nor of his personall raigne and thou that tells of such a deceipt that except ye live out of Gospell ye cannot live in the spirit here thy deceipt is indeed made manifest and thy life who would separate the Gospel from the spirit but against that life and deceipt we bare witnesse who by this spirit do according to the Gospell Again thou art teaching people how to set up popery as followeth If they will prove the pope supream Monarch this way Priest it may be done God made two lights the greater to rule the day viz. the Pope the lesser to rule the night viz. the Emperour Here thou who hadst professed thy self long to be a Answ teacher and preached against popery and hast not been ashamed to accuse others of it who stand clear in the truth of God witnessing against all such wayes of darknesse but now thou art here found teaching people how to make the Pope supreme Monarch by saying God made two lights the greater to rule the day viz. the Pope the lesser to rule the night viz. the Emperour and so makes the Pope Emperour to be those two lights here I charge thee to prove where ever the ministres of Christ taught any such thing to the people or did so contemne and despise the ordinances of Heaven and the lights which God made to rule the day and the night which thou compares to two carnall men like thy self and here thou hast perverted the scriptures and made thy folly and deceipt manifest to all that they that can but read in the naturall heavens will condemne thee and out of thy own mouth thou art condemned for in thy paper thou hast said that which is not scripturall is not spirituall now for that which thou hast said thou hast no scripture to prove it and the Scripture will testifie against thee and the Son and the Moon which are in there course in the Firmament of Heaven will testisie against the and so these we do deny and thy doctrine with the Pope and his supreme Monarch all who worship the host of Heaven we deny being clear from there doctrine and deceipt If they will establish simplicite faith thus it may be Priest done Job 1. 14. it is the oxon we are plowing and the asses feeding besides them in East the priests were preaching and the people believing this is to Crucifie the word of God Here thou art proved and made manifest to be a false Answ teacher who art teaching people how to establish implicite faith and to blind the eyes of people thou brings that scripture Job 1. 14. when as there is no such word as implicite faith spoken of there nor in the scripture thou finds no such word nor did ever any of the ministers of God teach people how to establish any such thing and those priests who preach that and that people which believes it do make the word of God of none effect through tradition Thou art charging and accusing some to hould forth Priest the mistery of iniquity in principles and to affirm a community of persons and things The mistery of iniquity we know and them in whom Answ it worketh in all deceivablesse of unrighteousnesse and from it and its workings we are separated by Christ Jesus and in his light do see comprehend its workings in the children of disobedience and all vile and unclean persons who are in the lusts of uncleannesse and in the mistery of iniquity and all things which are separated from the light we have no union nor fellowship with and all these practises we do deny which are unclean which is acted contrary to the light which is pure in which we are called not unto uncleannesse but unto holinesse and to this God is our witnesse and our consciences also bears us witnesse against all false accusers so I charge the who hath put forth this accusation to turn thy mind to the light of Christ in thy conscience and with it thou may see in thy self the ground where this mistery of iniquity worketh and thou may see in thy self that which hath unity with that which is uncleane the lusts of uncleanesse in ordinate effections and evill concupiscence the ground which the mistery of iniquity worketh in is yet standing in thee and so of the same things of which thou accuses others art thou found guilty which is for condemnation with the light 'T is pitty Christ should be the foundation and wood Priest hay stubble built there upon yet this is possible 1 Cor. 3. 15. Here thou hast perverted Pauls words and speaks thy Answ own invention contrary to the scripture for Paul did not say 't is pitty Christ should be the foundation but said other foundations can no man lay then that is laid which is Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 3. 11. now if any man build upon this foundation gold silver precious stones wood hay stubble every mans work shall be made manifest now in the light art thou made manifest that Christ is not thy foundation who takes Pauls words out of their place who witnessed Christ to be the foundation but thou art found building upon this foundation gold silver hay stubble and making a refuge of lies which is for the fire whose work is to be burned in the day of the Lord. Thou sayest wisdome is grown up to perfection amongst Priest that people called Quakers In the light of Christ we dwell which comprehends thy Answ wisdome which is earthly sensuall and divelish and from that wisdome these things published forth in thy paper do proceed which is full of lies and confusion but in the light of Christ made manifest in those thou call Quakers art thou seen to be in that wisdome which is not perfect and so thee thy
word we do deny which is for condemnation with the light which is contrary to thy earthly wisdome Thou Priest Woodall art accusing me for numbering thee Priest amongst those who are guilty of preaching for carnall things who reap carnall things and this thou makes thy defence saying this is my cause more then seven years I have served in the Gospell where I am receiving what a people freely give for my family reproath in outward things refusing a considerable settled maintenance else where Such as thou so west such shalt thou reap and all they Answ who have given thee mony for preaching such things as thou hast here published forth in print they have given thee mony for that which is not bread and so bought the carnall with the carnall but their souls are yet made marchandise of that unjust gaine which thou hast received this seven years from that people will rise up in judgement against thee who has not only used it for thy necessity and support in outward things which were needfull for the use of the body but hast spent it upon thy lust and pride in thy family spending more in lust and pride and gay apparell then those whom thou receives the gift from and thou who haâ—h professed thy self to be a servant to that people and they having given the wayes so long for that which did not profit them thou after the manner of the gentiles hath exercised authority and lordship over them and where as thou shouldest be their hired servant they call thee master thou which should be the least of all amongst them art greatest of all exceeding them all in pride and high mindedness in ease in pleasures in idleness and fulness of bread but as the Lord doth open the eyes of those whom thou hast kept in blindness and ignorance they will come to see thee and thy doctrine to be contrary unto the Gospell of Christ as they may plainly see and read thee in those things which thou hast published forth in print which is servisable unto all who hath understanding that thy confusion and folly and lies against the truth against Christ against the Saints and against the Scriptures they may see which hath been long hid but now is made manifest in the light unto all who are come to know the free teachings of God who will no more give the mony for speaking a divination of thy own brain and not from the mouth of the Lord. Who knows not that tithes and gleebs were under that Priest dispensation by divine law ordained for the maintinance of the priests Here thou would make people believe that thou denies Answ tithes which was for the maintenance of the Priests of the law but as for the gleebs which thou speaks of there was never any such things ordained in the law here thou hast made it appear that thou art ignorant of that which was ordained for the priests maintenance under that dispensation for they had no inheritance nor gleeb lands to maintain them as some of the priests of England have and yet those priests in England which do receive tithes and so upholds that which thou seems to deny yet thou owns them as thy brethren and to be ministers of the Gospell and here your deceipt is so plainly made manifest that you accuse one another and condemne one another all your harts being exercised with covetous practices preaching for filthy lucre all being greed together to persecute ruile and slander the pure truth of God where it is made manifest in his servants to declare against all your deceits that out of your snares the righteous seed of God may be delivered to testifie against you your ministery under which the seed of God is keept in bondage Reader I have done our heavenly Father taketh Priest sleeping disciples at the best Matth. 26. 41. Here thou hast uttered forth aly that all may plainly Answ see which saith thou hast done and in the next words saith our heavenly Father taketh sleeping disciples at the best now from this Scripture in Matth. 26. 40. thy words are proved to be false for in that condition the disciples were then in they were not at the best who could not watch with Christ one hour and the comfortor was not then come which afterwards they did witnesse and travell and labour and fasting and prayer and watching day and night they did witnesse and we who do witness the same condition now do testifie against thee and all who make lies of the Apostles who did witnesse Jesus Christ in truth and uprightnesse of heart and the same Christ do we witnesse and doth freely preach him to every nature being made manifest to that of God in every ones conscience to be witnessed Now as my first Query is printed in thy paper the latter Priest part of it I deny which was not given forth nor spoken so by me in thine it is printed thus how can that be said to be a naturall light which witnesseth unto God â—â— against the things of the spirit of God which is false but in mine it is written thus how can that be said to be a naturall light which witnesses unto God in that which is holy and against the naturall inclinations of fallen man seeing the scripture saith the naturall man receives not the things of the spirit of God 1 Cor. 2. 14. How as every one hath a desire to know the truth of these things that the occasion of stumbling may be taken away they may read the Query as it was given forth from me in the sixteen page of that printed paper called Davids enemies discovered which was put forth in print to be seen as it is there written before Woodalls paper which is now in print was given forth and this I have given forth that the truth may be cleared owning that which did proceed from me and denying that which is not mine and as for Frederick Woodalls answer to the Queries they are replied unto in the paper above mentioned and to the rest of this printed paper an answer is here in returned that he may not boast in his folly but may be ashamed and repent Now as in answer to that in the latter end of thy book which thou directs the reader unto thou seeing that thou hast holden forth these things which thou canst not prove as the first Adam to be the fountain of all naturall good and so to blind the eyes of people that they may not see thy ly and saith thou means not primitively and here thou speaks on thing and means another but this covering is two narrow for thee under it thou canst not hide thy self but thy nakedness and shame appears to all whose eyes are opened and by them thou are seen And where as thou wouldest cover over thy shame of that thou hast formerly spoken in telling of two images the image of God and the image of Christ and that the