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A25515	An answer to a late pamphlet, called A Sober dialogue, between a Scotch Presbyterian a London church-man, and a real Quaker, scandalously reflecting on the Church of England as if her doctrine and common-prayer did justifie the antichristian doctrine, of the real Quaker, viz. that the light within, whither in heathen, or Christian is sufficient to salvation without anything else; wherein the plain deism and antichristian principles of the real Quaker and his party, and the pretended church man, are plainly detected. By a friend to the author of the dialogue, called, a Sober dialogue, between a country friend, a London friend, and one of G.K.'s friends.		1699 (1699)	Wing A3305A; ESTC R214848	10,861	26

AN ANSWER To a Late PAMPHLET Called a Sober Dialogue Between a Scotch Presbyterian a London Church-man and a Real Quaker scandalously reflecting on the Church of England As if her Doctrine and Common-Prayer did justifie the Antichristian Doctrine of the Real Quaker viz. That the Light Within whither in Heathen or Christian is sufficient to Salvation without any thing else wherein the plain Deism and Anti-Christian Principles of the Real Quaker and his Party and the pretended Church-man are plainly detected By a Friend to the Author of the Dialogue called a Sober Dialogue between a Country Friend a London Friend and one of G. K.'s Friends London Printed for Sam. Clark in George-yard in Lombard-street 1698 9. An Answer to a late Pamphlet called a Sober Dialogue c. PAg. 4. The real Quaker is brought in saying I am of Opinion there is nothing more excellent than Light or more lasting than Truth and therefore the Psalmist did well when he Prayed to joyn them together and the walking in one and loving the other as they ought to be would put an end to all those Notions vain Conceptions and Imaginations of Men about which in their prejudiced Minds they trouble themselves and the World Ans That place of the Psalmist to which the real Quaker refers is grosly Perverted by him as is the usual way of most of their Teachers to pervert the Scriptures throughout and to discover the Perversion let the Words be considered as they are Written in Psal 43.3 O send out thy light and thy truth let them lead me let them bring me unto thy holy hill and to thy tabernacle Here it is evident to every intelligent Christian that the Light and Truth that he Prayed for was not simply the Divine Word or λογοσ for he knew that was in all Men and in all Creatures it being one of his essential Attributes to be Omnipresent Nor Secondly The common Ilsumination of that Divine Word as it was in all Men to wit Heathens and Infidels for seeing the Quakers say all Men have that already David had it also but the Light and Truth that he Prayed for was some further Degree of special Illumination and Discovery of Divine Truth which no Heathens and Infidels had But if any Degree of Light that David had was sufficient without any thing else for his Salvation why did he Pray for more or why did he believe in Christ that was to come without him to be a Sacrifice for our Sins as all the Faithful did Page the same The supposed Presbyterian is brought in saying he pitieth the Quakers Ignorance and so indeed he might very well do for his affirming that by the Light Within any can be saved without somewhat else meaning by that somewhat else with all true Christians the Godhead and Manhood of Christ by the Personal Union of the two Natures constituting one Christ Jesus who only as thus considered is our intire and all-sufficient Saviour together with all the spiritual and special Blessings that the Faithful have by him in the use of the ordinary outward Means of Salvation as the Doctrin of the Holy Scriptures outwardly Preached and Read c. Ans For this the Church-man bids him hold and not be too Censorious as if it were the Doctrin of the Church of England that the Light within any Man even suppose considered as the divine Word doth save him without being made Flesh that is to say without his Manhood Personally United to his Godhead which the least Child in the Church of England that hath learned his Catechisme knoweth to be directly contrary to the Doctrin of the Church of England and all other Christian Churches Page 5. The Quaker saith by the Light Within he means no other than Christ as the divine Word or λογοσ which enlightens every Man that comes into the World and for the Restoration of Man God hath given unto every Man and in and by this Light Invites Calls Exhorts and strives with every Man in order to save them which as it is received and not resisted works the Salvation of all Ans Here he discovers plainly his deism without any Disguise which is no wonder seeing G. W. hath given him a President in his late Antidote p. 28. Confessing that the Quakers are offended with G. K.'s Doctrin saying that the Light within is not sufficient to Salvation without something else And here this real Quaker gives us a plain Account what his Christ is to wit the Divine λογοσ or Word without Christ's Manhood and all that he did and suffered for us without us and all that he is now doing for us in Heaven All which are something else than the Light Within either Saint or Infidel and wharever Use or Service the common Illumination hath in all Men by way of some preparatory Ministration yet to say it actually saveth or that Christ actually saveth any Man by it alone without Christ's Manhood and Sacrifice and Mediation in Heaven is pure Heathenisme and Deisme and renders Christ's Dying to be in vain and the Preaching and Faith of it unnecessary to any Page the same The supposed Presbyterian ving said that in Men that reproves for Sin is only the Law Written in the Heart in p. 6. The Church-man is made to Check the Presbyterian and to tell him he sears he does not well consider this Word only for if it be granted that it 's Christ as the di ine Word that reproves for Sin as the Quakers say then don't you carry it too far by Asserting it's only the Law Ans The saying that in Men that reproves for Sin is only the Law hath this true obvious Sense without any strain to wit the common Illumination that is in all Men allowing it to be given by Christ as a common Gift as well as our Reasons as Men are the Gifts of God and of the divine Word in common to all Mankind And this Sense the Quaker is obliged to hold to if he will follow his great Patrons G. Whitehead and W. Penn who have Printed it more than once that the Quakers do not affirm that Christ is in every Man but that a Light by or from Christ is in every Man This the Presbyterian may well say with the Holy Scriptures and all sound Christians that the Light in every Man in the Sense of G. W. and W. P. by the Light not understanding Christ but the Light or Illumination given from Christ to every Man is only the Law Written in the Heart Quaker We search the Scriptures diligently and find that in Man that reproves for Sin is the Spirit of him that never sinned see John 16.7 8 9 10 11 13 c. Ans Here the Quakers ignorance and Blindness that the Presbyterian doth justly charge him withal is manifest that he is not taught according to Scripture to distinguish betwixt the several inward Ministrations and Operations of one and the same Spirit and the several inward Lights and Illuminations all

tell all the World that there is no better nor higher a State than that of the Quaker pray what are those great Attainments you have arrived at beyond other People it may be you will say you have left the Fashions and Language of the World well and what then Will all this quiet a Conscience wounded with Sin I tell you nay Sheeps Cloathing will not do when you will not hear the voice of the true Shepherd nor follow his Commandments We Read of but one Shepherd and one Sheep-fold which was that good Shepherd that laid down his Life for his Sheep And in your Dialogue you tell us that the Light in every Man is the divine Word which you call Christ 't is true Christ was that divine Word in the beginning with God and here you make a full stop and tell us that that does enlighten every Man that comes into the World and Calls Exhorts and strives with every Man in order to save them which if received works the Salvation of all Now if the Divine Word as it was in the beginning saves all Mankind pray what was remaining for that Word to do after it was made Flesh did not all the holy Men of old know that Divine Word and its Operation far beyond the best of you And yet how did they rejoyce that by Faith they saw Christs Day in the Flesh they clearly saw that great Mystery of Godliness Christ manifest in the Flesh and does not St. John begin with the Creation and tells us that in the beginning was the Word and how that Word did Operate in being the Light of Men and so goes down to John the Baptist and from him to the Birth of Christ saying in the 14th verse that that Divine Word was made flesh and dwelt among them and saith he we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth And pray was not old Simeon well acquainted with that Divine Word which was the Light of Men yet when he saw the Child Jesus he said now let thy Servant depart in Peace for my Eyes have seen thy Salvation a Light to Lighten the Gentiles and the Glory of thy People Israel And another Prophetess gave a full Testimony to all that looked for Redemption in Israel Now here is that Divine Word which under the Law did shew Man his Sin and under the Gospel saves him from Sin pray which of those two was the most glorious Manifestation to Mankind as to that Prophecy in John the 16th verse the 7.8 9 10 11 13. Pray consider to whom our Lord speaks was it not to his afflicted Disciples whom he was just a going to leave in a dark and wicked World and therefore told them that he would send that Comforter the Spirit of Truth which would guide them into all Truth Mind he was a Guide to the Disciples but a Reprover to the World of Sin because they believed not in Christ Jesus and saith our Lord in the 14th verse He shall glorifie me for he shall receive of mine and shall shew it unto you for he shall not speak of himself but what soever he shall hear that shall he speak Here you see and as you desired some places of Scripture that the holy Ghost or Comforter does not save without Christ Jesus neither is the Holy Ghost said to be the Christ but he did take of Christ and was a Messenger from Christ to Comfort his suffering Disciples in his absence and to confirm that Doctrin And did you ever read that any did receive the Holy Ghost that did not believe in Christ Jesus as he outwardly came in the Flesh And where is the Man that can say among any of the Quakers that he has received the Holy Ghost as it was given in the Apostles Days notwithstanding the real Quaker saith that every Man has it and saith that with all the Presbyterians Logick and the outward Knowledge of Christ or of what he hath suffered outwardly for us he cannot stop the Cries of that which Reproves for Sin I believe no true Christian desires to stop its cry against Sin but methinks the Man should have been more serious then to put Logick and the outward Knowledge of what Christ did and suffered together I fear the real Quaker esteems them too much alike he says further that with all thy Art and Skill thou canst not prove that Water Baptisme was commanded by Christ 't is a strange saying and vain enough But pray what thinks he of the 3d of St. John the 26th verse What were all they Baptized with that came to Christ That 't is said that Jesus Baptized not but his Disciples did and how should they Baptize with the Holy Ghost when Christ was not yet gone from them and therefore had not yet seen the Holy Ghost and did not Peter on his relating of the Holy Ghost's falling on Cornelius's Family say that then he remembred the Words of the Lord how they should be Baptized with the Holy Ghost and yet he Administred Water after and can any Man be so Ignorant as to believe that the Holy Apostles of our Lord would have Baptized with Water had they not known that it was their Lord and Master's Will and Commandment whatever others may doe without Commission they were too Holy and too Spiritual to do such things He speaks after the like manner concerning the Lord's Supper and then Reflects on G. K. what he Wrote when he was one of them I would to God they were as honest to acknowledge their being mistaken as he has done both by Word and Writing and in that thing they do but the more expose themselves since they never found fault with him till they saw him further enlightened It is said that Jesus did not commit himself to all Men because he knew what was in Man how then is he in every Man a sufficient Saviour only by that common Illumination And now I have a few Words to the honest and sober Quakers My Friends I do beseech you to search the Holy Scriptures and believe they were Written for our Learning for our Conviction for our Reproof that the Man of God may be furnished to every good Work notwithstanding your Teachers bids you only to mind that in your own Hearts I do tell you that to bring your own Deeds to the Light is to bring them to the Doctrin of Christ and his Apostles as God shall be pleased specially to enlighten you to understand it why should you lean to your own Understanding when the great God has made such wonderful Provision for you and has set it on a Candlestick for all Men to see the Light thereof in our Land tho' not so in all Lands Pray what a Price did both the Old and New Testament cost them that conveyed it to us did it not come swiming to us in a River of Blood and shall we so ill requite the great God and those dear Servants and Messengers as to tell we have no need of their Testimonies or Doctrin for every Man has that in himself that will save him if he hearkens to it's Voice What Ingratitude is this to those holy Martyrs whose Blood cries how long e'er thou avenge us on them that dwell on the Earth And where do you find that God ever left any of his chosen ones to the common Manifestation of Light only in themselves that being too much vailed by the Fall of Man had Man been left to that Witness without higher Manifestations to excite Faith and Hope of Redemption by an Object beyong themselves how had they fainted in their Minds and considering how their Father Adam had fallen before them who doubtless had more Light than any earthly Creatures since he was in the Paradice of God I must needs say I am concerned for you and it makes me even tremble to see on what a brink of danger you stand there are too many Children that can speak before they go which is no good Sign I fear you have not tried your own Frailty that talk thus big I am sure that there are some among you that has as much need to pray for the Forgiveness of Sin as any People in the World has and yet at the same time will say that they have that in themselves that is able to save them from all Sin they may as well say they have a Staff in their Hands but will not make use of it so do nothing but stumble and fall will not all the World condemn you and say since these Men have so great a Light as is sufficient to save them why do they not follow it but fall into such horrid Mistakes in their way I do really believe whenever God opens the Eyes of your Teachers which have caused you to err to see what they have done and what they are doing they will then deserve the Name of Quaker more than ever they did I pray God open their Eyes for your and their own sakes that they may have their Suffering rather in this Life then in that which is to come Do not mistake me and think that I design to lessen the Light that in Man that Reproves for Sin or the Law Written in the Heart as the Apostle plainly calls it and said he had not known Sin but by the Law but Christ's Blood is the Way by which we must enter in Therefore do not think of climbing up another way I do intreat you my Friends to read the Scriptures especially the New Testament through and through again and pray to the Lord for Wisdom in the Reading of them and they will sufficiently furnish you with Wisdom that is able to make you wise to Salvation through Faith in Christ Jesus and know withal that these Lines are Written from one that is your real and hearty Friend that Prays for your Salvation FINIS