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A89824	An answer to a book called The Quakers catechism, put out by Richard Baxter. Wherein the slanderer is searched, his questions answered, and his deceit discovered, whereby the simple have been deceived: and the popery proved in his own bosom, which he would cast upon the Quakers. Published for the sake of all who desire to come out of Babylon, to the foundation of the true prophets and apostles, where Christ Iesus is the light and corner stone; where God is building a habitation of righteousness and everlasting peace; where the children of light do rest. Also some quæries for the discovering the false grounds of the literal preist-hood of these days, in the last times of antichrist. If you know the truth, the truth shall make you free. / Iames Nailor.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1655 (1655)	Wing N258; Thomason E851_1; ESTC R207416	51,999	51

confess themselves to be Wolves if they did not then he that saith they did is a Lyar But saist thou it seems they referred it to John 10. 12. I say that place though it declare you to be hirelings yet doth it not declare all to be Wolves that come to dispute with you unless they be found guilty of devouring the people as you are found guilty in preaching for hire But that they chose out a day when thou should be absent is false for the Spirit of the Lord by which we are guided regards neither person nor places but though they mist thee then did not they meet with thee at Worcester even in the high place where thou was preaching and there demanded of thee How the Ministers of Christ and the Ministers of Antichrist might be known but could get nothing from thee more then from thine assistant unless such words as these people regard him not and words stirring up the people to hale them out which being readily executed by thy hearers prevented the hirelings fleeing but Tho Good air staying till thou had done and then speaking to thee and the people all the satisfaction he got was that he was haled to prison yea twice hath he been imprisoned by thy Ministery Oh shame with thy Epistle and thy Book may not the Reader read thee a dissembler who says they chose a time when thou was confined to thy chamber thou mayst well call these hasty lines for hadst thou taken counsel at wisdom thou hadst not thus manifested thy folly Thou saist they would not suffer thee to answer them peaceably in their Assembly without disturbance I say had not this been a seasonable time for thee to have proved thy Ministery and to have reproved gainsayers and had not thy hearers been as able to have kept thee from the disturbance of one man as to have haled him out of doors is not he blinde who sees not thee through this cover Art not thou ashamed to say that we are the children of darkness and will not bring our deeds to the light in this particular as thou dost in thy third pa●e Couldst thou have had a better opportunity then before so many people and thou in thy high place where none could disturb thee but in these excuses thou layest but open thy own shame as in the rest of thy book To send a man to prison for speaking to thee before thy Congregation and then accuse them that they will not come to the light But saist thou I would have answered them in their Assembly but why not in thine own if the things had been profitable might they not have been serviceable to them as well as to the other but above all things you cannot indure to be laid open before your hearers You have led so many blinde and there have kept them that if ever they come to see your deeds laid open you know you will lose them so that your best defence is to keep truth and light out of doors with clubs and halberts and so to preserve your deeds of darkness undiscovered and if any of your hearers begin to look towards the day or light of Christ and finde something in their conscience bearing witness against their sin and wickedness of all other things you are most afraid lest by that they should be guided shewing your selves to be those builders who most refuse the corner stone the light of the world and of all things that ever were preached you bid stand afar off from this as the greatest error And whereas thou would make people believe that we would not suffer you to come to our meeting did not Richard Farnworth in one Letter charge thee and Priest Osland to come to a meeting which was appointed at Chadwitch in answer to your own Letters which meeting was appointed and kept and many people of several judgements came into the meeting with expectations but neither thou nor Priest Osland appeared though you had sent your boasting Letters for a challenge about the same such as thou no wonder though thou preach down the light and plead a continuance in sin whilest thou lives who makes no more use of the light in thy conscience in thy writings and actions Thou saist they charged thee in the name of the most high God to answer their Questions in writing that they might Print them with their reply And saist thou if I wr●te to them they will print it therefore thou chosedst rather to print thine own papers how mean soever then let them do it I say how doth thy speech bewray thee who whilest thou art accusing us for not bringing our deeds to the light thou confesses our publishing things hath put thee upon Printing and are they to be blamed for charging thee to answer their Questions in writing who would neither come to their meeting nor suffer them to speak at thine but sent them to Prison and calls it no more persecution then to burn a Thief in the hand but though they charged thee to answer either in writing or printing yet another Principle guides thee in uttering these falshoods that they charged thee not Two Objections thou saist that thou sees will be raised against thee o●e is that the persons are so contemptible and the errors so gross that it is a needless work to strive against them To which thou answers that our multiplying where we come and the salvation of poor Christians makes the necessity To which I say What Generation thou art of who holds the persons of any contemptible is easily judged by any who have that spirit which respects no mans person but from that Spirit you are grosly erred And for our multiplying that must increase to thy torment and all Babylons Merchants for God is multiplying his seed as the Stars of Heaven though Gog and Magog be gathered against it yet to the brightness of his rising shall the Nations come and the desire is kindling now after the shakings Isa 6. 3. Hag. 2. 7. and the Lamb hath set up his standard whereat all the beasts of the field rage yet he will take the victory and for thy salvation thou tells on what dost thou intend to save them from who art preaching up sin as long as they live And again thou saist It s but the Churches of the Separatists and Anabaptists that are emptied by these Seducers and its best to let them alone to keep their own flocks I say Some of your Churches are so emptied that you have few left to hear you but prophane persons swearers oppressors drunkards and fighters such as beat in your synagogue and these are become your prime hearers but canst thou not see thy confusion who in thy last was saying We multiply where we come and now It s but the Churches of the Separatists and Anabaptists then why cries thou out of so much danger doth not thy speech bewray thee but saist thou Here and there one of the unsetled sort or that

Papists are our Teachers but art in the Reliques of their worship thy self for which we with the light deny them and thee and your teaching Our 11. Query Whether thou hast seen Gods face And to this thou utters a deal of confusion saying That by the eye of reason thou hast seen God to be infinite incomprehensible and saith none hath seen God and then asks a Query Whether he that hath seen God do abhor himself as Job did and says is it likely that ever those men had the true knowledge of God who exalt themselves as having the Spirit and being perfect men without sin I say Art not thou ashamed of thy folly who would perswade people that having the Spirit and being without sin could keep from seeing God Thou blind sot Can any come to know God but by the Spirit and where wilt thou have this Spirit if not within Can he be any of Christs who hath not his Spirit or can any unclean Rom. 8. 9. thing stand before God or come in his sight But if any witness this Spirit and sanctification by it thy filthy mind calls it pride Blush for shame Did ever any but the Devil minister against having the Spirit or freedom from siu How art thou afraid thy fathers Kingdom should fall Yet being told of this thou calls it railing as thy fore-fathers would be ever in the Devils work but would not be called his Children but would call God their father but hated all that was in his work as thou dost 12. Query Whether you have the same infallible Spirit as the holy men of God had who spoke forth the Scripture And instead of answering plainly thou falls a lying again saying thou hears the croakings of our Papist guides and thou wouldst thrust us in with them because we say the Spirit is infallible and they say that their Church is infallible so that for us to say the Spirit of God is i●nfalible is Popery but what Religion is thine who cannot bear it to say the Spirit is infallible Where must the infallibility be in your Church or in the Letter or in you Priests It is likest thou intends the last because you would bind all to believe your meanings but when thou writes again deal plainly and tell us where thou would have it since it must not be in the spirit But to the Answer thou says the Prophets and Apostles were guided infallibly in the manner and matter so that what they writ to the Church was true but thou hast no such infallibility I say if thou had such a Spirit your Pulpits would have more truth and thy Book not so full of lies as it is but wilt thou not call it railing if I tell thee that thou who hast not that Spirit hast the Spirit of the Devil If thou do yet the truth is no less for the Spirit of God is but one and who hath it hath an infallible guide in matter and manner if he keep to it And he that is not guided by this hath the Spirit of Satan and I know that so far as any are led by the Spirit it guides into all truth if it be not erred from But says thou I shall never like such pretenders to the Spirit I know thou dost not for that guide leads out of thy Kingdom Sayest thou All true Christians are certain of their Fundamentals yet with doubting Here thou hast declared thy damned foundation but true Christians know a foundation without doubting and thou falls to comparing us with the Pope and would make us like him I say were it not we cry down his Worship means and authority that remains in you we should not have so much of your malice Are not you his dear Children as like as may be Have you so soon forgot who be got you into your Parsonages and Masterships and Ordained you and your place and form of Worship He is but a young Priest who was not Consecrated by his Cathedral Order though now you see the Bishops your Masters are down with the Magistrates and the people You can talk against them as they did against the Pope their Master when the Kings would own him no longer nor they could not be suffered to pro●ess his authority in this Nation then they would rather turn than fly and have not you stuck to Episcopal Worship till you see you were like to be turned out and then your wisdom would convince you of your error Is not he blind that sees not you one with the Papist in the main It s not getting into their houses and talking against them that can blind us when we see their foundation-standing and not one thing you do which is as the Apostles or believers did it But either as the Pope and his Councels invented or as you have invented since in your Councels but never came to the Saints form much less to the power For shame be silent in this businesse till you have more hopes of hiding your selves you have lost your old way of stopping preaching and printing and now your slandering your Popery upon other mens backs will but cause all to see you more plainly people are now grown so wise as they begin to know the tree by its fruit your words will not serve your Covering growes th●n it must be rent and your refuge of lies are a sweeping away your rowing in your own filth doth but cast dung in your own faces the truth is living and pure and will clear it self and all that abide in it but shame shall cover the wicked And thou calls the Ranters our brethren but they are your brethren and hearers they come not amongst us unlesse it be to oppose as you do there is no more Communion with us and you then light and darknesse will this cover you who have them with you preaching to them and they maintaining you nay it s well known that there is none so bad in the Nation but if he have but any thing to adde to your hire you are for him and he is one of your Church and brotherhood is there either Drunkard Swearer or Whoremonger whatsoever but you will reap his Carnals with or against his will and you will tell him you sow to him spirituals and such is your seed and such fruits comes on it yet thy shamelesse lips will call such our brethren when we have turned from them for these filthinesses and you have received them with it nay some of you boast of such Converts when we have denyed them 13. Qu. What is hells mouth that the wicked go in at And to this thou sayes it sufficeth thee to know that hell is a state of endlesse misery where such as we shall everlastingly bear Gods wrath I say that 's thy desire to know but wert thou not blind thou wouldst know it is for liars slanderers the man of sin and his disciples who plead for his Kingdom 14 Qu. Whether the Bible be the Word of God and Matthew

Mark Luke and John the Gospel and whether there were any Gospel before them and whether they be the light and to this thou gives not answer but tells of a temporal Word so much knowes thou of that word that endures for ever and a word that is a sign of Gods mind and such confused stuffe and tells of a different sense betwixt Christ the Scriptures and thou sayes it was written that it might be a standing rule and kept intire and sure to the worlds end but how often have you and your generation altered this rule insomuch as scarce two of you can agree about it what is the meaning of it and how many Copies is there of it which of them is the standing rule that which stands most suitable to your wills and pleasures and how intire is it kept when much of it is quite lost but thou might have said of it as of the infallible Spirit if the letter be not it thou hast none thou knows on that had been plainer dealing and thou sayes this word is the Light but not as Christ is the Light or the Spirit for there are many lights and so with thy many lights thou shews thy self to be ignorant of the one light the Scriptures speaks of which holds out but one light and word but thou hast many in the dark-lanthorn of thine imaginations not one like another and so imagines that Christ the Spirit and the Word are not one nor enlightens all alike sayest thou mans reason is the eye and the Gospel is externall and the Spirit clo●eth these two together and so breedeth a spirituall illumination which the word alone could not procure whereas the Scriptures witness the word by which alone all externalls were made and the word for reconciling again and making new but sayest thou the word without reason and externalls cannot produce and this is thy word thou preaches and so it seems by what it produces And thou asks some queries 1. Whether we believe the Scriptures be true I say yea then ●ayes thou they call themselves the word of God and thou brings some scriptures to prove it but not one that sayes the letter is the word and thou brings Rom. 10. 8. The word is nigh you even in your heart and in your mouth but is the Bible there and thou brings 1 Pet. 1. 25. The word of God endures for ever and before called it the temporall word Thy 2. qu. Will we give you leave to smel the Pope in our endeavours to d●sgrace the Scriptures though our nose be stopt I say were thou not stark blind and drunck with envie thou might see thy own confused scornfull spirit with which thou hast discovered thy folly who one while will have the word temporall and another while to endure for ever and to prove the Bible to be the Word brings the word is in the heart but no wonder thou be blind who sayes mans reason is the eye 15. query Whether you own revelations or no And to this thou sayes thou owns all divine revelations and disowns all diabollicall ones but in thy 10. page hath denyed revelations but the revelations thou own is what is written but hath not the Devil these also yes and can preach them as wel as you and take them to plead for his Kingdome as wel as thou yet sayes thou these are able to make men wise to salvation without any further additions and when thou hast done sayes they must have the Spirit of Christ to help them but thou might do wel to shew thy opinion whether the Spirit can make wise to alvation without them it seems to be thy opinion that it is not by thy former query where thou asks whether the light of Christ be sufficient where your Gospel is not preached which no Gospel you have but the Letter which if you had it not you would be as dumb as those which Isa●ab speaks on and in thy conclusion thou tels of other helps which are o● slat necessity besides the Spirit and thy litterall revelations which before thou said was sufficient to salvation without any addition but by thy own words if there had been no Book thou had had no revelation and yet in words seems to deny thy father the Pope who hath kept thee thy revelations else thou had been without for ought thou knows yet you cannot beare it to be called ministers of the Letter and not of the Spirit and the Apostles was Ministers not of the Letter but of the Spirit this with you is railing 19. qu. Is about singing Davids Psalms and for answer to this thou sends us to a Book of Cottons and Ford and say thou knows no reason why thou should add any more a pretty shuffle to get shut of that thou canst not prove yet though thou have lost thy reason to answer thou wil ask more queres 1. If the Scripture be written for our use why may not we speak to God in Davids words I say because David would not keep a lyar in his house may thou who art found a lyar sing these words the Scripture was not written by such a Spirit nor to such a spirit nor doth such learn ought by the Letter but to cover thy shame and deceive others as appears by thy practise 2 que They being used by the Church till the Apostles time where was they abolished I say is that Church thou means on the Pharisees such a Church uses them now though not so wel as they did for they did not put them into rimes as you do and when the Saints sung with the Spirit and with understanding and he that had a Psalm sung his own and not anothers then was the way of Pharisees abolished 3. qu. Whether is it more lawful for us to sing in the words of David or for you to take together all the sharp reproofes in Scripture to rail on me with I say there is as much betwixt the lawfulness of them as betwixt truth and a lye for when we take Scripture language by the same spirit that gave it forth to reprove the same deceit in thee which Christ and his Prophets and Apostles did in the chiefe Priests Pharisees and Hirelings then we speak truth though thou call it railing but when thou and thy hearers sings Davids words saying you have no scornfull eye you have rored all the day long your bones hath quaked you have made your bed to swim with tears no lyar shall dwel in your houses c. are not a nest of lyars all found lying together and he that sayes otherwise of you is a lyar like you 17. qu. What is the soul of man c. And thou sayes it's the cause of our life I say thou knows not him who is the cause of our life no more then thou dost the soul but here thou would deny God to be the cause of life and put the soul in his stead as thou hast denyed the spirit to set the letter

hirelings be not false Prophets yea or nay and are not such to be cryed out against now as they was then and this being thy own condition thou art so wise as to let it alone without an answer if thou had done so with all the rest thou had kep● thy self longer covered thou bids us read Malachi so we have and in the second Chapter first and last and the rest of the Chapter we find thy generation and thy practise and your end comming on apace 22. qu. Whether do you own trembling and quaking which the Scriptures witness and this thou looks upon to be a curse or a papist trick or mot●on of the deceiver c. showing thy selfe to be one of those spoken of Is● 66. 5. there thou may see thy work and ours thou Blasphemer dost thou call that a Papist trick and the power of the devil that all the Holie men of God that ever did declare the way how they came to see God came through as the Scriptures can witness in Moses David Daniel the Prophets and Apostles but sayes thou perfect love casts out fear what now art thou talking of perfection is it not blasphemy to name such a word art thou now come to perfection thou art wel grown since thou begun thy book wherein thou was pleading against any possibility of perfection but in heaven art thou got so high now take heed thou deny it no more least thou shame thy selfe but it s not a lye that wil make thee blush thou hast cast out that fear but its selfe love that hath cast it out for the love of God casts Psal 2. 11. not out the fear of God blessed he is that feareth alwaies but thou art Psal 72. 5. cursed who hast cast it out Last Quaery Whether do you say you shall be free from the body Pro. 28. 14 of sin while you are on the earth and whether shal any be perfect yea or nay and to this thou sayes thou believes that in the instant of death when you part with the flesh you part with all the remnants of sin I say thou hast made thy confession according to thy faith and covenant I told thee on before that is you must part with your sin when you are dead and can sin no more if you would and the devil too but that this Covenant of hel and death should be for any less than tearm of life that 's again●t your faith which you have preached and live in and against your Covenant too yet if we do but say that you are ministers of the devil and such as uphold his Kingdome of sin while people live and the world tands you cannot beare it though we do but declare thy own con●ession And ●or sinless perfection thou sayes thou believes the devil bred it and thou sayes Christ detests it and never man that had true grace bel●eved it I say or thy saith that believes the devil bred perfection I know thou art of that faith that ever called Christ Be●zebub and his works the Devil works so in that fa●th I do not expect any other confession but thy lye thou layes upon Christ and the Saints saying Christs detests it and the Saints believed it not I shall reprove and disprove by plain Scriptures Mat. 5. 48. be ye perfect even as your fath●r which is in Heaven is perfect Did he command here what he detested or was this a sinfull perfection he called for wouldst thou make him a lyar and a dissembler like thee and for the Saints owning perfection read Eqh. 4 12 13. Cal. 1. 28. Phil. 3. 15. 1 Thess 3. 10. 5. 2. Psal 18. 32. Psal 101. 2. H●b 10. 14. 1 Cor. 2. 6. Iam. 1. 4. 2 Cor. 7. 1. with many more places too many to set down here which all declare their beliefe in perfection and thee a false witness preaching such a faith as never any of Gods ministers ever did nay thou exceeds all the hirelings and false Prophets that ever was never any of them durst say it was of the Devill before thee and thou says its the Papists dongue we feed upon O thou blasphemer dare thou ●peak thus of the perfection of God which he gives to all that wait upon him and hunger after his righteousness thou makes it appear thou never knew the good and perfect gift that comes from Iude 11. above thou runs too greedily after gifts and rewards from below thou hast blinded that eye that should see perfection and sayes thou the fathers Kingdome before had perfect subjects and so shall it have again when Christ hath perfected us thou blinde guide had the first man Adam power to defile in this world and hath not the second Adam power to cleanse to the uttermost in this world what is defiled all that come to him thou showest thy selfe plainly whose power thou art under none under the power of the Devil could ever witness the power of Christ stop thy mouth thou false witness we know the power of Christ and the vertue of his resurrection and that he is greater in us than he that is in the world that he is more able to save than the other to destroy to cleanse than the other to defile but while we believed with thee we knew no more of it than thou dost but with that faith which overcomes the world and the devil and purifies the heart do we deny thee and thy faith which lyes under sin and the devill and in league with him for tearm of life and would have all so too and thou dost what thou can to withstand that ever the Father should have such subjects again as he had before the fall never while the world stands The last enemie sayes thou is death which shall then be overcome at the last resurrection a large time art thou taking for sin and death to reigne till all men be dead thou art faithfull for thy God and art making a league for him with all that believe thee even for them and their children after them til there be not a man left to sin any more yet must not we say thou art in the Devils work but we must call thee a Minister of righteousness though thou never read of such a faith and Ministry in all the Scripture but thou hast in this thing plainly declared thou knows not the resurrection nor fellowship of it art who yet in death and pleading for it to compleat thy covenant of sin least any should deny it or break it or sup●●t thee to be pleading for satan thou concludes thy work with that old refuge of the devill that is to take the Letter which was written to keep out of sin and to wrest it to encourage to sin and thou runs to that one place which all thy Fathers children u●e to plead 1 Iohn 1. If we say we have no sin we deceive our selves and the Truth is not in us there fore sayes thou the truth is not

be found clear of it though now you be stirring up these Powers against the peaceable people as you did the o●her as a Generation never well but when you are in mischief but our defence is the same against you who will accomplish his own work and set his King upon his hill notwithstanding your Hellish rage Thou goes on telling if any further ask thee why the Papists are so diligent in those works and thou sets down many hopes we have to accomplish great things which words are not worth taking up after thee But to them all I shall say this Whosoever hath but heard of the Blood that hath been shed and the violence done to the Innocent by your Fore-fathers the Popish Clergy before they was denyed in the Nation also what Blood hath been shed and misery undergone to bring down your power set up in the Presbytery in Scotland and England the two last of these which we can witness by sad experience I say here 's small hopes for any that either loves God or their souls or bodies either or the Peace of the Nation to labour in bringing forth such a birth of Vipers nay we rather rejoyce to see the work begun thus far in the Nation whereby he will rid us of the rest of that brood and their burthens which is the greatest oppression that remains in the Nation though this must be done with suffering as the other was done with acting the Lord having drawn forth many to that purpose against whom you are gathered as the sand for multitude yet are we not dismayed though beset on every side yet not destroyed for we know him in whom we have believed And thou saist Consider well of that Scripture Eph. 4. 12 13 14. c. where Christ gave Ministers for edification unity and the perfecting of the Body amongst which thou hast thrust in thy cursed addition saying at last the perfecting of the body I say When must that last be seeing thou hast denyed any perfection whilest any lives in this world it seems thou dreams your Ministery must last in another world else how must you perfect them by your Ministery or shall death do that which cannot be done while they are living So we have considered of that Scripture and finde you to be none of those Ministers whom Christ gave nor Ministring for that end but against it and so Ministers of Antichrist blaspheming the work of God who call his power at which all flesh shall tremble the power of the Devil And saist thou If you turn to the Quakers we shall know that you were before an unsetled Novice and thou brings that of 1 John 2. 19. they went out from us but they were not of us I say What hast thou to do with these words John was no hireling nor Persecuter as thou art thou art one of those which John forewarns of who abides not in the Doctrine of Christ and all that owns John or his Epistle must keep thee out of their Houses and have nought to do with thee if thou read his second Epistle 9 10 11 verses there thou may read thy self cast out by Johns Ministery and there ●s few that comes from thee need to look for ought but reproaches for then the hope of thy gain is lost further then thou takes by force And thou falls a praying the Lord to open his eyes and acquaint him with his great darkness and imperfection I say what eye is that which thou would have opened since thou denies the Light within Is the man blinde of his bodily eyes and to what end should he see his imperfection seeing that thou denys that ever perfection can be attained to Thy Prayers are an abomination and they are blinde indeed that stands in need of such a Teacher and knows no better spirit to pray with Then thou makes an Oration before thou Answers the Quaeries wherein thou tells of several Papers which thou received from seve●al persons as one Jane Hicks Tho Chandler and Edward Newway Richard Farnworth and Tho Goodair but not being acquainted in the business and seeing nothing herein of moment but what is answered in other places I shall leave it till more knowledge of the thing Then thou goes making a show as that thou would Answer our Quaeries and these thou folds up by six together which thou canst not answer and sends us to a Book we know not where to seek an Answer which thou calls a Defence of a Petition yet though thou Answer not one of the six in what thou falls short in Answering thou makes up in asking asking ten where thou answerest not one so that instead of answering 24. thou hast asked above threescore but few of those thou wast asked hast thou gone about to Answer but thou begins as followeth with our first Quaery and thy false slanders and lies thou casts upon us are double to thy Quaeries as I shall make it appear if I be called to number them but I am weary with raking in that filthy puddle yet thy Queries are answered and some of thy lies disproved In page 43. line 12. for the Letter read Christ OUr 1. Query is What 's the first Principle of pure Religion Thy answer is That God is and ne●t that he is a rewarder of them that dil●gently seek him and thou queries the ground of our asking I say the ground of our asking is that the folly of such Teachers as know net God and his way may be made manifest as it is by thy Answer for the knowledge of what God is is the substance ground and end of all pure Religion which admits of no second for it is life eternal But if thou say thou means believing there is a God then there is something God hath appo●nted as a way to God which must be learned before God can be known wherein the creature must be principled which must turn the mind towards God before the creature know God seeing God is not known to the world till the creature be turned out of the world So saith Christ No●e knows the Father but to whom the Son reveals him such a● thou have got the name of God to talk on but when you should come to principle people in the way to him you say God is it which if bare saying God is it be all thou can do in way of teaching then you may stop your mouths if it be not for losing your gain for all can say that there is a God as Jam. 2. 1● well as thou yea the Devil can preach that doctrine but thou knows if thou had answered this Query to the satisfaction of any honest desires then thou must have confessed to the light that God hath given Joh. 8. 12. in Christ Jesus to lead out of darkness but that destroys the Devils Kingdom and therefore all his Ministers are deaf of that ear and so children of darkness and keep others so 2. Query Whether they are a Church of

Christ that beat and persecute them that witness forth the truth in his name And to this thou answered That its possible for a true Church to be guilty of injuries but to cover thy guilt in this thou would rank us amongst Turks and Witches wherein thou shows how thou would order these injuries done to us if it were in thy power And further to hide thy self from answering thou bids us ask this question of the Spanish Inquisition and those who have shed the blood of so many hundred thousand true Christians c. I say we are asking it of the same generation of Priests who have all along been the cause of shedding that innocent blood where they could prevail with the powers of the earth to act their bloody ends under religious pretences calling that heresie that crosseth their lusts as it s well known You cease not to presse the Power to it still and prevail as far as you can and where you can and have used many waies secretly and openly to undermine them where you cannot and where the Magistrate is not ready to execute your designs you have some of the baser sort ready with you that will do it at your commands as some of you Priests have set them on saying fight lads for the Gospel Nay I can make it appear of above 30 of you who have fought with your own hands many of them to the shedding of much blood even by the high-way when the innocent have but passed by And now wherein do you differ from them who shed the blood of the Martyrs unless it be in this that they would forbear till they had some shew of authority which you cannot but fall on with your own hands shewing your thirst to be greater then ever theirs was and your selves more shameless Now if it be not an offence to judge you after Christs rule then findding you to be in the same fruit we must know the same Generation all along and we bless our God who hath chained the Devil that he must but only manifest himself in casting some of us into Prison for our tryal but cannot have h●s will further but to shew what he would do if he had power Praises to our God for ever 3. Quaery Thou says is about Infants Baptisin And not being able to prove thy practice herein either by command or example thou shufles it off with telling of a Book and asking a Quaery to the Anabaptists nothing at all to the purpose yet least thou should be found out of thy fathers work thou infolds a lie in it saying The Anabaptists are our Founders And 5 6 7 8 9. Quaeries Thou saist are all about Tythes but takes a ready way to escape them Instead of answering falls a questioning shewing thy self to be one of those who can sooner start questions then answer them and instead of answering six of ours thou sta●ts ten of thy own Thy first is Whether we have read any of those Books that proves that Tythes are still of Divine Right I say by no other Divinity then the Popes authority canst thou nor all his Clergy prove Tythes to Christs Ministers to be by Divine Right therefore we deny the Pope his Divinity his Clergy and all their lying Books and challenge thee and all thy Generation to prove it by the Book of Scripture Thy 2. and 3. Quaeries Is whether the Scripture doth warrant● man to dedicate part of his Lands to God for the service of his Church and is it not lawful to take what is so dedicated and thou instances them that sold their Lands in the Apostles times I say suppose that be granted that a man may freely give his own to God must the hireling therefore take mens goods against their wills to maintain such a Ministry and Worship as God never set up but is denyed by him and all that ever he sent nor did the Apostles put the price of other mens Lands into their purses but it was distributed to such as had need and when your Ministry brings forth the like effect then take food and raiment freely as the Apostles did but in the mean time do not you spoil mens goods by force and call them Robbers of Churches 4. Quaery If our Ancestors having given to the church the Tenths are not those Church-robbers that now take them away I say If my Father had given the Tenth Land in my field to the hireling then had he given his own and no right had I to have gainsayed that he should have given what was his but that he could give the tenth Sheaf Pig Goose or Egg which is Gods blessing and the fruits of my labors and never was his that I deny and he is the thief that takes the fruits of another mans labors against his will for if I sow no corn thou hast no sheaf and if I have no Sow thou hast no P●g c. so if my labors you take which never was my Fathers but who gave you money out of Servants wages and for smoak passing up peoples Chimneys Crysomes and Mortuaries and such like which you had all from your Ancestor the Pope from whom you had your first rise Tythes and maintainance all your Parish Priests who so dearly tendred his Children that least they should want provided that there should be no profit but they should be sure of their share providing you a house in every Parish to sleep in making you Masters and this Spiritual Courts to force people to work for you that you might be sure to have enough whosoever wanted and since those fell you have been hard put to it and sore afraid you are least the earthly powers should leave you for if they do your Gospel will starve you such is the fruits of your plowing and sowin● and so your maintenance is as ancient as the Man of Sin and no elder and you must fall together as you have stood together 5. Quaery If one that bears the bag prove a Judas or Thief 〈◊〉 one Nicolas a Deacon should lead a Sect of Nicholaitans your Predecessors were all the Apostles therefore Thieves or all the Churches and Pastors greedy Dogs for taking much more then the Tenth even mens whole Estates that gave them to that use I say That the Nicholaitans is our Predecessors is one Lie and that the Apostles took mens whole Estates that 's another so we think it not strange to suffer with them But you that take mens labors against their wills by force are much worse then Judas and more greedy then all the dumb Dogs we read on who though they were may be as covetous as you yet they were never so shameless as to take it by force and plead for it and having got a pretence of a law to cover you it must not be called Thievery but a while will that hide you God is about to lay you open and the Mountains must not cover you then woe to you Thy 6. is Whether you ask