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A27403 An ansvver to John Gilpin's book, published in his name, and subscribed by the priest of Kendal and an answer to an other false slaunder, as concerning buggery, which he and they slander the Quakers with, which was denyed before any such thing was acted : also, another slander which is cast upon them who are scornfully called Quakers ... / from them who are called Quakers by the scorners. Benson, Gervase, d. 1679. 1655 (1655) Wing B1899; ESTC R35747 11,382 17

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sorrow and wayling and gnashing of teeth which is denied by all the Children of light The man of sin hath exalted himself above all this is called God or that is worshiped so that he as God fits in the Temple of God that he might be revealed in his due time whose coming is even after the coming of Satan with all power and lying wonders and with all deceiveableness of unrighteousness in him and them that perish because that they and he did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved for this cause hath God gi●en him and them up to strong delusions that they should believe lies that they all might be damned together who believe not the truth but take pleasure in unrighteou●ness for to the world hath Iohn Gilpin and the rest of the sub●cribers directed their book they are of the world and the world heareth them therefore speak they to the world and the world heareth them and the whole world lyeth in wickedness they who are Children of light are not of the world we which are in the light are of God and he that knoweth God heareth us he that is not of God heareth not us hereby we know the Spirit of truth and the Spirit of error So marvell not my brethren if the world hate you and persecute you as many of the subscribers to Iohn Gilpins book hath done persecuted many imprisoned many for we know we have passed from death to life because we love the bretheren but he that loveth not his brother abideth in the death and who so hateth his brother is a murderer and hath not eternall life abiding in him so ye Children of light who see Iohn Gilpin and his subscribers where the man of sin is re●ealed the Son of perdition comprehended all you are with the light which is your condemnation remember in your life-time you are warned and you are in secret read this now bretheren in the light be not ye so soon shaken in your minds neither by his books nor words who hath given heed to fables swerved from the truth and turned aside and so now directs his book to his own who heareth and receiveth it He that hath an eare let him heare and understand he that hath an eye for over to Satan is he turned and delivered and so with the wicked judged who are both with the light condemned which from his lies and fables the Children of light are escaped are not they of the world that do persecut the Children of light are not they of the world that are given over to beleive lies are not they of the world that heareth the world are not they of the world that sends their writing to the world and doth the world heare the Saints and doth not the world love her own and did not ever the world hate the Children of light was Iohn Gilpin come to that power that made the Devills to tremble and you who worship the beast whom all the world wonders after to blaspheme and doth the beast blasphem the power of God yea or nay was that the power of God that made the Devills to tremble in Iohn Gilpin yea or nay Answer else confess in your silence guilty and let your mouths be stopped for ever is it the power of God that makes the Devills to tremble and doth not the world call this the power of the Devil and so abuse the power of God nay or yea Having seen a book wherein the life and conversation of Iohn Gilpin by severall hands certified that Iohn Gilpin hath ever walked as becomes the Gospel I have knowne him this 12 or 14. yeares and this I can say and lie not he was never owned in the least of any that had a profession but was of the sort which ran to all excess of riot a common Drunkard a Cocker a Gamster as some of those is which hath given testimony of his Gospel-conversation but if this be their Gospel conversation it with the light of Christ is denied and in judgment neither it nor they can stand but with the light is to be condemned and with the Children of the light to be denied and seene to be out of the Gospel It is not the boasting Spirit that lodgeth in the enemies of God that can hurt the truth which casteth out floods of water to destroy the truth for in safetie is it kept neither those high swelling words can hide him from the wrath of God that is revealed to be powred forth upon all unrighteousness and know thou lier that my testimony is true and shall stand and this I declare to all in the presence of him that knoweth that I lie not that as I was passing down the high street in Kendall betwixt the place called the new Brigging and the lower Wel John Gilpin was passing on the street in that place I sae him drunk but they being so large in their exposition of things they may do the like of his drunkenness these are the signes which I shall declare which will be a sufficient testimony that he was drunk first that he reeled to and fro secondly turning to a side of the street standing talking to a woman was not able to stand without wandering Thirdly his face inflamed scarse able to look with his eye the woman speaking to him but he could not speak plain and the woman prayed God to bless him Thou sayest that 's true that information was given in against him but not on oath Reader take notice that nothing will pass currant with them unless it hath the stamp of an oath see here they are not in the doctrin of Christ that would have men to sweares but out of the light they are shut and with the light is to be damned And as for his friends I charge them with alie they never came to me and told me any such thing as that it was a gross forgery neither did I give them any such answer as that he was drunk with sin though it was his sin to be drunk so let all that nameth the Name of the Lord depart from iniquity the light mind that brings into purity so thou mayest stand in thy integrity so wilt thou see the beast and the false prophet and their lying wonders and with the light of Christ they will be condemned Robert Wharton I having occasion into the fields upon my comming back over the neither brigg I meet with Iohn Gilpin and I set my eyes upon him and I understood the man was drunk immediatly his Wife comming out of his own house she desired him to go in and he refused and she began to strugle with him and so with much to doe she got him in and as for what he was formerly I well know he was a common Drunkard a Cocker a Gamster and with such like actions and practices brought his Wife and Children to penury and want Roger Baccus And for the heads and cheefest of your witnesses which here
confirms your lies and reports upon hearesay because you report it I Who is known by the name of George Taylor of Kirkby Kendall in the County of Westmorland do declare in the presence of the Lord God against Iohn Archer who is called one of the Justices of the Peace for the same town and County and one of the cheefe witnesses that he is a detestable Blasphemer a notorious liar and persecutor of the Saints for he was not ashamed to maintain that the light of Christ spoken of in Iohn was naturall that none was redeemed from strife and that the light in Cain led him to slay his brother And though for writing and declaring against these abominations he caused me to suffer imprisonment above twenty daies yet the same now I am willing to Publish for the truths sake and to seale the same testimony if it were with my blood against Iohn Archer whose name and nature stinkes in the nostrills of the Lord God George Taylor ANd for Edward Turner that Cavalier who is given to drunkenness swearing and cursing for which or some of these he should have suffered a fine in the time of his being Major when he witnessed the relation of another drunkard Iohn Gilpin to be true and he should have had his goods distraind upon not paying his fine had not Iohn Archer for love to wickednes and to robb the poor passed by it George Taylor ANd the said Iohn Archer Justice of Peace so called A man being brought before him for swearing and other mildemeanors and being convicted and his fine set which came to fifty shillings Iohn Archer through the solicitation of his brother in Law Roger Bateman being a great man in the Country took only two shillings six-pence instead of two pounds ten shillings and so became a Breaker of the Law and a Robber of the poor Iohn Cam. And these are the witnesses of Gilpins book VVHereas there is a slander put upon them whom the world scornfully calls Quakers by one as it is made manifest of their own as concerning a Mare all such beasts and beastly tricks and works of the flesh we abhor and deny whom the world scornfully calls Quakers though such a one came among the Quakers to their meeting certain times but since he left off comming to their meeting it is near a quarter of a year so with the light all such acts and actors is eternally condemned with the light from them whom you who are of the world ●●ornfully calls Quakers whole unitie is in the light which condemns all such practices as is aforementioned contrary to it Iohn Bisbroune and Christopher passing on the way in a place called the new Close the man before mentioned who did that beastly act as it is said before he had done that act passing on the same way that Iohn Christopher Bisbrowne were in and yet going the same way as they came fled the way and would not meet them and then when they were gon past he came into the same way againe and near a quarter of a year before that Iohn Bisbrown was moved to speak to him and told him that he was Esau and that the wild nature had head in him before mentioned who was one of them without who acted contrary to the light as it is said of them that are without and when Iohn Bisbrown spoke to him and told him he was Esau and that the wild nature had head in him then the witness rose in him of whom the report goes and he did blush and was shamefully accused in himselfe and could scarce look any freind in the face and this was neare halfe a yeare since and therefore ye slanderrers would put your slanders upon the Children of light with the light you slanderers and all such beasts and beastly acts which are of the world are condemned with the light from the Children of light praises be to the Lord God for them it doth not touch for in the light they dwell with the light are you comprehended which light is your condemnation and with the light we deny all such actions and your slanders who are to be condemned with the light to the light in all your consciences I speak which shal witness me eternally you condemne your slanders and to you this is the word of the Lord this is to goe abroad into the world that they may own their owne among the Esaus and Ismaels where the wild nature hath head which is hated of God and cast out from God who is light and all the Children of light A coppie of this is to goe amongst them who are wild in nature like him upon whom the report goes and all take warning this is the day of your visitation that are from that generation which is untowards God ye may be kept pure and not potted in that which condemns it And though his name be Bisbroun● yet not of the Bisbrowns that dwe●s in the truth I charge you all in the presence of the living God to walk wisely to stop all slanders and reports and in that dwel which condemns them al to you this is the word of the Lord This Bisbroun was denied of friends neare a quarter of a yeare before any such accusation was laid to his charge Iohn Archer who hath slandered those thou calls Quakers make it appeare and prove thy slander I command thee in the presence of the living God that he is one of them thou scornefully calls Quaker for them thou slandered with the thing called Buggerie If thou canst not prove it acknowledg thy selfe to be a slanderer a backbiter a rale bearer and a busie-body openly to all the world for with the Children of light thou art seen and judged the thing hath been learched out and long before about a quarter of a yeare there was one of them you scornfully cal'd Quakers was moved to tell him he was Esau and the wild nature was head in him and after he fled the way and would not meet them whom the world calls Quakers as Iohn Bisbrown and his brother in Arneshead who are witnesses against him upon whom the report goes and he durst scarce look any of them in the face whom you scornfully calls Quakers and this long before there was any such report for we deny him who are one of your own and wilde Esau like who durst scarcely look any of them in the face whom ye call Quakers but fled the way as many of you do and such may come hinging among us as some of you do but all such we deny and where any defect is found amongst such you would cast it upon them who dwells in the truth as you did your freind Gilpin but them it doth not touch but he was not so far as your freind Gilpin who after forsook them you scornfully call Quakers and turned drunkard and him you published in print to be a convert and a firebrand snatched out of the fire and one delivered
out of Satans chaines who turned drunkard so that there was a warrant granted out for him an● he fled upon it and this thou Archer caused to be put in print to be published in the nation and blessed thy God for thy convert but thy convert we utterly deny whom thou scornfully nick-names Quakers and his practices before mentioned with the light he is eternally condemned which light they dwell in whom thou ●cornfully calls Quakers Freinds search him and declare his condition in writing and if he will not answer stick it upon the Cross that truth may be exalted and deceipt confounded for he is one for condemnation upon whom the report goes before the report went of him one that separate from freinds and separate from truth long before whom truth raignes over and all that are in it whom you scornefully call Quakers for there is no other truth but what they are in for it is but one in all the same as ever was Hugh Bisbrown whom Archer faid was one of the cheefe heads was never known to speak amongst freinds in that way you speak of for shame stop your mouths who say he was one of the heads whom Christopher Bisbrown was moved to speak to his brother about to keep him from coming among the Lords people while he used such loose company some while before he left off coming to meetings And Alice Bourrough was moved to tell him in the power of the Lord he turned the grace of God into wantonness for all his life shee saw nothing but loosness in him and great hardness of heart though he came hinging and loose by sometimes to meetings As for Killner and Fell the two witnesses of James Milners prophesie that time James was denyed when his mind was forth where Kilner and Fell is but Milner now being recovered from that state which they witness against for we witness against those things which he was in which now he is recoverd out of which enviously now is published by these two witnesses whom we witness against they being enemies to the truth as it is in Jesus but these are them that doth report to them that doth report and so it is published to the Nation by such as doth result the truth as Iannes and Iambres did who hath the form of Godliness but denies the power A Paper have I received who writes his name to it Robort Drury who was a freind to a man that himself made away Freind the lies that the man and his witnesses spoke in Wollies house we denyed for he heard him not speak these words which he witnesseth and his witnessing before and so he was a liar and they was liars And thou now seeks to justify a lyer and so it was no slander nor no lies in hypocrisie which was written forth for the truths sake that they that dwell in the truth should not be slandered with such a fellow for freinds being slandered with him after he was dead for the truths sake it was written forth And thou that seekest to justify him and his lying witnesses take heed of the just judgment of God falling upon thee And to that in thy conscience I speak And him whom the world calls George Fox did witness the thing that the lier and the false accuser had said he had spoken before in his hearing which he had not spoken the words and so he was a lier and his witness false and thou false that justifies him And that in thy conscience will beare testimony against thee though after before many witnesses he did witness it but not as carnally spoken and thou who dost now appeare in the same nature take heed take warning for Iudas he did see him to be and Iudas end came to him And wo to that man that doth betray the just the wo is to thee for he was not slandered who turned from the light wilfully betraied the just which light is your condemnatiō which now seek to justifie the unjust the betrayer But in the power of the Lord we are kept above al your slanders and accusations And William Drury let thy mouth be stopt and thy lies covered the thing whom the world calls George Fox did witness is witnessed but he spoke it not as a Carnall creature if thou this canst receive thou mayest that in thy conscience is his witness and thy condemnation And before many witnesses it was confessed that which he had not spoken before him that witnessed against him therefore to him it is a lye and thou art a false accuser who seeks to justifie him And utters forth hy lies in hypocrisy for the truths sake was the Note written forth because freinds were slandered with him after he was dead and so the mist which thou casts before peoples eyes and the dirty stuffe which comes out of thee the truth cannot be darkened with it But clearly thou and he is manifested to the Children of the light And Judas was his name and Judas end was scene and take thou heed who goe about to justifie him for there men see what your profession is without the substance And the truth being cleared the witnesses fled and thou wouldest not have had Judas to have had his name then when it was given him let that in thy conscience beare testimony and condemne thee who would have had him to have had another name and have made him better then he was and there thou maiest see now what thou hast set up And the godly freinds are not saddened who are in the Image of God who see the end of such as contrary to the light do act which thou seeks to justifie But the day hath declared his fruits and thine Therefore thou hast time now repent and thy time prise it least God suddainly cut thee off And this is in love to thy soul from him who is a freind of it And that which was writ in the Paper was truth and not a lie not a slander in it and that in thy conscience will beare testimony to it which is thy condemnation And that which him the world calls George Fox did speak forth was proved before many living witnesses and that which they witnessed they was liers for before to them he had not spoken it So let that in thy conscience be a witness against thee to be in the same nature against the truth as he was who with the light are to be condemned And lies and false accusations and slanders we all deny for them we see are come out of thy own Botle and thither we do return them which out of thy Paper are come therefore for the truths sake have I written forth a few words to thee from them whom by the world are scornfully called Quakers The man that cast himselfe away he came to a place where there was a meeting of people And he was set up of the world and the world heard him and he carried away lies and brought witnesses to witness with him