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A40441 A dialogue by way of question and answer concerning the deity all the responses being taken verbatim out of the Scriptures. Freke, William, 1662-1744.; Freke, William, 1662-1744. A brief but clear confutation of the doctrine of the trinity. 1693 (1693) Wing F2163; ESTC R30389 26,997 16

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and Holy Ghost A. Gen. 48.16 The Angel which redeem'd me from all evil bless the Lads and let my name be named on them and the name of my Father Abraham and Isaac and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth That is as if he had said God grant the Angel bless the Lads c. Q. 29. But can you shew me any Text then where we are forbidden to worship either the Son or Holy Ghost if you can pray what is it A. John 16.23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing verily verily I say unto you whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name he will give it you John 16.26 At that day ye shall ask in my name and I say not unto you that I will pray the Father for you Q. 30. What Scriptures have you that testifie of the Holy Ghost pray declare them A. John 14.16 17 27. But the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in my name he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you and I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever even the Spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but ye know him for be dwelleth in you and shall be in you Eph. 1.13 1 Cor. 12. 6.19 2 Cor. 1.22 John 15.26 But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father even the Spirit of truth which proceedeth from the Father he shall testifie of me Q. 31. But is there any Text that shews you an absolute Duality in the Father and Holy Spirit to confute the Socinians who think them one and the Trinitarians that think them at least Coequal and Essentially one A. Rom. 26 27. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities for we know not what we should pray for as we ought but the Spirit it 's self maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be utter'd and he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of GOD. Eph. 2.18 For thro' him we both have an access by one Spirit unto the Father Q. 32. I perceive then by these Texts that you take the Holy Ghost as well since the Prophets as before Acts 28.25 Luke 2.25 26. to be Christ's Deputy-Angel for I see not how you can suppose Christ to send the power of the Father from the Father as the Socinians imagine pray therefore let me know if there are any other Texts which shew the Son to command the Holy Ghost as his Lord. A. John 16.7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth it is expedient for you that I go away for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you but if I depart I will send him unto you 13 14 15 Verses following Howbeit when he the Spirit of truth is come he will guide you into all truth for he shall not speak of himself but whatsoever he shall hear that shall he speak and he will shew you things to come he shall glorifie me for he shall receive of mine and shall shew it unto you all things that the Father hath are mine therefore said I that he shall take of mine and shew it unto you John 7.39 14. 12. 20.22 Luke 24.49 Acts 1.2 Vntil the day in which he Christ was taken up after that he thro' the Holy Ghost had given commandment to the Apostles whom he had chosen 1 Cor. 12.13 Eph. 4.11 Acts 1. 8 20 28. Acts 2.33 Therefore being by the right hand of GOD exalted and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost he hath shed forth this which we see and hear Rev. 5.6 Mat 3.11 Q. 33. But how comes it to be so peremptory then to Blaspheme the Holy Ghost according to the words of Christ Mat. 12 31. Mark 3.28 A. Acts 5.3 4. But Peter said Ananias why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost thou hast not lied unto men but unto God i. e. Thou hast studiedly affronted even God himself thro' us and the Holy Ghost for tho' Rev. 1.1 2. 11. Heb. 1.14 compar'd to Acts 2.2 3 4. and Luke 3.21 shew the Holy Ghost to be but an Angel yet as he is that Angel through whom by the Son of GOD he himself bear Record to us 1 John 5.7 So indeed in that respect he is the Representative both of Christ and God himself Q. 34. I perceive then that according to the Texts 1 John 4.6 John 14.17 15.26 which say We are of GOD he that knoweth GOD heareth us he that is not of GOD heareth not us hereby know we the Spirit of truth and the Spirit of error and Rom. 8.26 1 Thes 5.19 Mark 13.11 Luke 12.12 I say I find that you suppose with these Texts that there are two great Angels an evil one and a good one that help and tempt all Mankind severally at once but pray what Authority have you for Notioning such great Spirits from Scripture A. Rev. 12.9 10. And the great dragon was cast out the old Serpent called the Devil and Satan which deceiveth the whole world he was cast out into the earth and his Angels were cast out with him and I heard a loud voice saying now is come salvation and strength the kingdom of our GOD and the power of his Christ for the accuser of our brethren is cast down which accused them before our GOD day and night Rev. 20.2 3. And he laid hold on the Dragon that old Serpent which is the Devil and Satan and bound him a thousand years and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal upon him that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years should be fulfilled and after that he must be loosed a little season Eph. 2.2 Wherein in time past we walked according to the course of this world according to the Prince of the power of the Air the Spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience Eph. 6.12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities against powers against the rulers of the darkness of this world against spiritual witkedness in high places Dan. 10.12 13. Then said he unto me fear not Daniel for from the first day thou didst set thine heart to understand and to chasten thy self before GOD thy words were heard and I am come for thy words but the Prince of the Kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days but lo Michael one of the chief Princes came to help me and I remain'd then with the Kings of Persia Verse 20 21. Then said he knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee and now will I return to fight with the Prince of Persia and when I am gone forth lo the Prince of Grecia
nature and if as Christ tells us he that breaks one Commandment is guilty of the whole Law what must our wilful Trinitarians expect Nay and if not surely 't were better for them to be Adulterers than Idolaters if Christ knew which Commandment was greatest Forsooth the Trinitarians have been apt to accuse us Unitarians of Heresie and Blasphemy in denying the Divinity of the Son and Holy Ghost Bless me that Men can so grosly oversee their own Guilt on the other hand so as to make nothing of Idolatrously equalling and worshipping them with the Father In plain terms men that can cherish this Errour knowingly and as I fear too many do make Interest and Reputation only their God and the Almighty God their Laughing-stock And what could Christ say of the Pharisees of old That Whoremongers and Adulterers entred the Kingdom of God before them And can such our modern Idolaters expect a better Sentence No certainly if there be any such a thing as Sin or Guilt in nature they as much exceed our common Villains and Criminals in it as a Bankrupt a generous Robber or a Popish Adulterer that vows Chastity a common Fornicator To be short well might Christ say when the Son of Man comes shall he find Faith upon Earth For were that time now where should he look for it What among the Heathen If not what can a Trinitarian pretend to it that dares not even to value Idolatry and the first Commandment We are reformed with Luther you say Ay just as men that love to follow a new Song we admire him but I fear God will shew us one day that our Hearts are still as Popish as ever XIII Nay I may say the Guilt and Horror of this Idolatry has been so gross in the all-seeing Prophecy of God that he has marked it all along as the great Characteristick of Antichrist And thus Jurieu and who I think also best interpre●s the Prophecies places the rise of Antichrist just about the time of the settlement of this Mystery But not to rest on fickle Interpretations of that nature only pray but mind how the Holy Ghost even engraves this Doctrine on the Forehead of Antichrist Says he Rev. 17.5 And upon her forehead was a name written Mystery Babylon the great the Mother of Harlots and the Abominations of the Earth And unto what I pray in Popery can that word Mystery there so properly relate as the Trinity Nor is this all the Holy Ghost is yet more express says he 2 Thes 2.11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie that they all might be damned who believe not the truth c. And now I pray what Lie in Faith has Antichrist but the Trinity And what then Can we we see this Nay can we see Antichrist at every foot branded for an Idolater and no doubt for nothing more than this For to alledge that the Papists worship their Saints or Images as Gods is as impertinent as false I say can we but see this and not be fired with a just Zeal to rescue the Honour of God Nay for my part I declare I should think my self mad to scruple at or make bones of the rest of Popery if I could but once be perswaded to down with this Mystery But good God! in the mean while where is our Conscience gone In plain terms we had as good burn our Bibles and fire our Temples as thus fling away a 7th of our time in Hypocrisie and Idolatry before God What for shame can we think we serve him when we thus spit in his Face XIV Nay and methinks he has winked at our Ignorance long enough in it And surely were we not quite sear'd 't were enough to make us tremble to think how sacrilegiously we have withdrawn his Honour from him Strange the Jews of old would rather perish than suffer the Roman Ensigns to be put up for fear of Idolatry But good God! what is become of such our holy Jealousies who care not how we treat our God But what then If some men blaspheme God and his Holy Revelation with a Faith fitter for Madmen than Christians and wilfully persist to do so shall not others dare vindicate his Holy Name in publickly professing his Truth Christ came to preach to us to a fine purpose and we are baptized as hopefully to fight under his Banner if we are excus'd for dangers sake only of entertaining and professing his Truths too where they are offer'd Yes truly and the Church it self too that Christ has prophesied should endure so long would quickly be in a hopeful condition should every little or great Revolution of Persecution silence us from our acknowledging our God and his Worship to the World if some had not hazarded more for the Glory of God than so before us one might easily guess what fine Christians we should have been by this time To be short the Israelites in setting up a Calf for their God that brought them out of Egypt were not more guilty of Idolatry call it in a mistake Mis-speculation or how you will than our present Trinitarians And what then is it not enough for every little Luke-warm Heart to hear Christ's Sentence That whoever confesses not him nor his truths before man neither will Christ acknowledge him before his Father and the Angels to the deterring of him from smothering thus as well the Fountains of Truth as Christianity Besides that we have in Example the manifest approbation of God of Phineas and several of the Kings of Israel for their attempting the Reformation of the Church tho' to their hazard to encourage us to do the like after them Nay and what tho' with Socrates and others in such case a man hazards Death for his Reproof what mayn't a man be a Soldier and venture as wisely and as freely for his God as many others do for their Prince I know the World 's too cowardly and irreligious generally their Love to God proves too cold and their hazard too certain and that 't is makes 'em turn their backs in this matter if not quarrel with them that put them on it But surely if Martyrdom it self been't Folly this course especially for this Truth is blameless XV. But good God! then does it not deserve our pity to see how on the other side some men rather shipwrack Conscience than not write any thing to varnish over an old rotten Error for Preferment and that right Mountebank-like so that they can but be confident and bold enough to gull the People nor care what they say nor what they tumble down but per fas nefas either by Sophistry or Butchery endeavour to make all good Catholicks Bless me Are not these Men far enough from hazarding all for the Truth So some also as they know that commonly the best Sophister passes for the best Christian and a bold and wicked uncharitableness for the best Argument What do they not deal with