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truth_n	john_n	spirit_n	worship_v	7,067	5	9.7470	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A16615	A myld and iust defence of certeyne arguments, at the last session of Parliament directed to that most Honorable High Court, in behalfe of the ministers suspended and deprived &c: for not subscribing and conforming themselues etc Against an intemperat and vniust consideration of them by M. Gabril Powell. The chiefe and generall contents wherof are breefely layd downe immediatly after the epistle.	Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618.	1606 (1606)	STC 3522; ESTC S104633	109,347	172

none So say I that for the better mayntenance of the gospell where there were neede there might be many a good share had out of the surperfluity of those that maintayne their wiues in sattin and dammaske gownes velvet kirtles cheynes etc that bring up their children like the children of Noble men that fat themselues and theirs and starue the Lords people and who after their great abundance Preach not so much in 4 yeares as they did before in one G. Powel Suppose there were not able Ministers inough for this purpose Haue not the refractary Ministers then greater reason to joyne with their brethren in preaching the gospell confuting the Papists etc then superstitiously to quarrell about cross and surplice and to forsake their necessary vocation Nay Reply Haue not the Prelats the more reason to suffer us still in the worke of the Ministery with them We are all willing so farre to joyne with any in preaching the Gospell as we may doe nothing against the Gospell to craze the peace of our owne conscience The answerer often charging us with superstition cōvinceth them that say that we doe not that which we doe of conscience For if we be superstitious in not yeelding to crosse surplice etc then are they to us meere matters of cōscience For superstition is not in words but hath her seate in the conscience THE 16. ARGVMENT Ephes 2 14 15 As Christ Iesus to make peace betwixt Iewes and Gentils tooke away the Ceremonyes ordayned by God himselfe because they had been a partition wall betwixt the sayd Iewes Gentils and instituted no other in their places so the Ceremonyes other thinges now in question having been the meanes of much debate amongst us wherby the buildyng of the Church hath been greatly hindred and the enimyes thereof strenghtned they ought in this respect to be removed Ergo. The Ministers now molested for the sayd thinges inquestion ought to be spoken for and releeved and that by the Parliament because none may doe it better The Marginall Notes G. Powel a Hence appeareth what things they be that the refractaryes are offended with why then doe they pretend the gospell of Christ reconciliation with God etc Ad populum phaleras Reply These things being repugnant to the purity and sincerity of ihe gospell under which God will not be worshipped in any such Ceremoniall sorte Iohn 4 23 but in spirit and truth Being also such as for which the Ministery of the gospell is restrayned upon the liberty wherof dependeth the salvation of the people and their reconciliation with God There is no cause why such scoffing and frumping outcryes should be made against us as here else where are made Yea though the ministery of the gospell were not for these thinges restrayned yet being urged in the worship of God they are unlawfull and men standing against them and in all humility desiryng them to be removed by lawfull authority may well be sayd to stand in Gods cause and to plead for God G. Powel c O Martin was an modest man Thanks be to God Reply that you haue no other then Martin to upbrayd vs with who was unknowne what he was and whose writing was never approved by us and who also though he jested at some manners of your side yet never wrote so bitterly as many of you now doe G. Powel d They will offend and yet will not be told of it You haue not proved us to offend Reply in those thinges wherein you impute most offence unto us If we doe offend we are more then told of it yea our punishment is greater then our offence because it is greater both then the law appoynteth and also then the punishment of other whose offences are greater G. Powel e Heat of contention may carry men further then were expedient But are the refractaryes mylder in this kind Witnes all their Pamphlets and libels written against us The first parte of this note is plentifully justified not onely by the booke Scotish Genevating Reply by the most scurrilous booke of The picture of a Puritan and by the answerers owne booke De Adiaphoris but also by this presēt answer injoyned and allowed by authority wherein for ought I know there are more rayling scoffing and untrue speeches then are in all the bookes here unjustly termed pamphlets and libells If any notwithstanding of us doe offēd in this kind they are not iustified by the rest yet this is not to be forgotten that they that be the loosers and goe away with the blowes may be the better borne withall in their words G. Powel f A disgracefull terme But doe they acknowledge themselues non conformitans and schismaticall Reply If the word conformitan be a disgracfull terme is ther not disgrace in Conformity and being conformed For are not these words Conformed conformity and conformitans coniugata Why then are we urged to conforme Eyther therfore you justifie vs in not conforming our selues for who would disgrace himselfe or else you doe ill to say we call you by a disgracefull name when we call you conformitans G. Powel g Suam scabiem affricant Reply It needeth no answer All men know and dayly heare how they galle us in every sermon and how litle we deale with them G. Powel h A malicious lye There are fewe or none in the Church of England so ignorant and so scandalous in the Ministery as here the suppliants insinuat and if any such be amongst us sure I am that upon complaint and intimation otherwise they are severely censured and punished for it Yet I must giue them to understand that scandalous Ministers for life are more tolerable in the Church then such as be factious Schismaticall or scandalous for doctrine and phanaticall conceits Plus enim nocent doctrinae scandala quam morum delictae Reply Neither malicious nor lye All men good bade doe too well knowe too many both ignorant and scandalous to be in the Ministery If it might please his most excellēt Majestie or his most Honorable Councell to send out Commissions into all Countryes and to appoynt indifferent Commissioners neither Bishops nor any other Prelaticall persons because such are partyes but religious Noble men and gentlemen to inquyre of this matter the truth would much better appeare to the everlasting reproch of all those that doe so justifie the present state of the Ministery For the rest of the former note who knoweth not that one lewd person how base and abject soever may and dayly doth procure worke more trouble to a good Minister and doth more easily prevaile to his ejection then twentie good men though of never so good credit yea then somtymes the whole Parish besids though never so great can doe for the good and peace of the best Minister That also for a man not to were a surplice or make a cross in the ayre or I cannot