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A34020 Gospel order revived being an answer to a book lately set forth by ... Increase Mather ... entituled, The order of the gospel, &c ... / by sundry ministers of the gospel in New England. Colman, Benjamin, 1673-1747.; Pemberton, Ebenezer, 1672-1717.; Woodbridge, Timothy, 1656-1732.; Bradstreet, Simon, 1671-1741. 1700 (1700) Wing C5399; ESTC W13238 38,537 52

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think themselves ●antered As to his Query Whether the embodying into a Church state be not a mighty matter We must needs profess we want some better account what that is before we can so esteem it We read nothing in Scripture of gathering a Church or embodying it into a Church state unless it refers to the converting and baptizing of Heathen and then administring the Ordinances of the Gospel in a stated way to competent Numbers whose convenience will permit them to meet constantly at one and the same place of Worship All further Solemnity in this matter is ex abundant● and therefore the matter seems not so very weighty VVE now humbly take leave of the Author and his Book wishing there had been no occasion for these Reflections and accounting it a sufficient Apology that we have been contending for what we apprehend to be the Truth and it became the more necessary to vindicate it lest it should suffer more by the Reverend Author's Name and Authority than by 〈◊〉 arguments So far is the Presidency of the Colledge from being a Protection that it is the lo 〈…〉 est argument in on 〈◊〉 for a zealous us Con●u●●tion Not can the Reverend Author much resent this our search after Truth if he remembers the liberty that the humble and ho●y Mr. Baxter once Pray'd him to take in 〈◊〉 and re●uting any Errors he should find in his Books or should the Author 〈◊〉 angry it would but cause us to suspect what a bundance of people have 〈◊〉 obstinately believed that the contest for his part is more for Lordship and Dominion than for Truth 'T is possible some good people may blame us for carrying on the C●●t●●tion wherein as one saith though there be but little Truth gain'd yet a great deal of Charity may be 〈◊〉 We hope the best as to both these but however it happens we are willing to promise the Reader that scarce any thing shall provoke us further to concern our selves in these disputes no not so much as to make any Return should a Thousand pretended Answers be published for we love not to be contentions b 〈…〉 s the Reverend Author is wont to say in like cases it suffices that 〈◊〉 have born our Testimony And here we must do justice also to those who have first openly asserted and practised those Truths among us They deserve well of the Churches of Christ and though at present decryed as Apostates and back●●●ders the generations to come will bless them So a score of years or more p●st the Enlargement of Baptism was cryed out upon as a woful declension but the present generation feels the happy effects of it and rising up at the Reformers names do call them blessed To concluds all it is the Answerers sincere desire and design if it be possible and as far as in them is to live peaceably with all men 〈…〉 is then prayer that God would grant peace and Truth in our dayes rebuke the evil Spirit of pride uncharitableness co 〈…〉 on and contempt of others and pour forth on us all his Spirit of Grace and Love And now the God of Peace that brought again from the Dead our Lord Jesus Christ the great Shepherd of the Sheep through the Blood of the everlasting Covenant make us perfect in every good Work to do his Will working in us that which is well pleasing in his sight through Jesus Christ to whom be glory forever Amen Postscript IT is strange that our Review should be assaulted before it can be P 〈…〉 Yet so it happens in a late Pam 〈…〉 en 〈…〉 A ●o●t Answer to the Do 〈…〉 o instituted Churches Let them can it soft who have lo●● their feeling For th● ' t is confessed there are no very ●●rd Arguments yet Jealousie Censures Contempts there are which greate hard enough In pag. 12. the Reverend Authors seem jealous of some Injurious Treatment in this our Review whereas their soft Treatise is in 〈…〉 us not to us only but to whole Synods and Nations of Presbyterians They dare to say that their Gospel Order which is here answered is vindicated in every point from the Concessions of the Reforming Presbyterians beyond Sea and that not only from particular Authors of great fame among them but W 〈…〉 le Synods Whole Nations of them O injury to Truth and Modesty Tell us Sirs we beseech you what Synods what Nations of Presbyterians do oppose reading Gods Word in publick Worship ●o● the using the Lords Prayer that excellent perfect and most comprehensive Fo●m That limit the Right of chusing a Minister to a particular Church Covenant That say the ●ssence of the Ministerial Ca● co●fist● not in the imposition of the hands of the Presbytery or that the Brethren may lay on hands or that there shou'd be no Ordination but to a particular Church You reasonably add Optimus ille qui ●urre novit injurias plarim●● Though the best men in the world 〈◊〉 hard bear all this Could 〈◊〉 Authors perswade us to believe this we would obey him and name our selv●● no more Presbyterians We appeal in our Authors words pag. 16. To all the Presbyterians in the World say O ye Men of God and of Order What Reparation can our Authors make you for this Wrong in making your Name the Vmbrage of these their Errors We are moreover oblig'd to the Reverend Authors for their Ci 〈…〉 ies pag 7 ' 〈◊〉 a g●●ding unstudyed unstable Generation full of ●●vity bleating and lo●i●g An●i●a●● Raw ●out● pag. 15. They me 〈…〉 fo●●o●th this contempt for calling themselves Presbyterians but even let the Calf be known by its bleating Too late that 〈◊〉 came to mind pag. 50. Being reviled we bless being defamed we entreat In pag. 14. the Authors complain That we pay not due Deference to the Classis of the Pastors in the Vicinity and yet they assume not any Power of a Classis any further than to forbid us to be Presbyterians We highly approve of many particulars in pag. 17. That the Proponant for the Lords ●able be examined of his Baptismal Vow his sense of spiritual Wants Sinfulness and Wretchedness his Hope Faith Experiences Resolutions through the Grace of God But then come two words Covenant and Brethren in Capital Letters as a Lyon Rampant insulting a couching Classis a bleeding Presbytery But if we look over the Answer to the last Question in The young Mans claim to the Sacrament whereto these words in our Author do refer we shall find that the Proponant promises nothing more than to be subject to the censures administred unto him by the Poster of the Church and its Officers So Sirs the Brethren are dropt wittingly no doubt by the quick-sighted Author And indeed for the Brethren to be named in the Question and neglected in the Answer is a fair Negative on them The Proponant promises no subjection to them and the Reverend Authors sagacity is wonderful in that Answer for the Question takes the