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A85130 The brazen serpent lifted up on high, or truth cleared and above the deceit exalted, and as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wildernesse: even so must the son of man be lifted up, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish but have eternall life. Joh. 3. 14. 15. Here is also laid down in this treatise something, concerning election and and [sic] predestination, which is so much spoken of, and how they may know their election, something concerning Christ being the way to the Father; and how, and concerning Christ, the mediatour of the new covenants, and the end of the old, and tythes are ended. ... Lastly, here is part of a dispute, held between two chief priests, and two men that came and met with them, and the people at Chadwitch in Worcestershire; ... to clear the truth form accusations, held forth by those men that the world scornfully calleth Quakers. Written in Worcestershire, the beginning of the first moneth called March. 1655. R. F. (Richard Farnworth), d. 1666. 1655 (1655) Wing F471; Thomason E831_10; ESTC R207464 47,825 63

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of sin and son of the Devill read Rom. 6.16 Joh. 8.34 1. Joh. 3.8 hearken to the light within you that checks and reproves you for sin and obey that that will not deceive you but if you obey and follow it it will teach you when such as doth draw you from the teachings or Christ within such doth seduce you 1 Joh. 2.26 27. come to the light to be led into the holy life and into the pure worship of God in the spirit obey the light take up the crosse to your wills and come to Christ come out of your false churches and of from your proud Priests and off from your false Pastors to Christ the true shepheard and bishop of the soul and the true Pastor and feeder of his flock and come to the church in God 1 Thes 1.1 Heb. 12.22 23. and their overseers made by the holy Ghost Act. 20.28 is known and elders in Christ 1 Pet. 5. and there is no constraint nor for filthy lucre and such as dwell in the power knowes the voice of the Father and the Son to speak in the Church and amongst such Ioh. 10.4 Gal. 4.6 Luk. 12.12 Act. 2.4 Mat. 10.20 Take heed to that which is pure of God in your consciences and obey it that which calls for a pure conversation 1 Pet. 1.13 14 15 16. and let your light so shine before men that they may see your good conversation and come out of your sprinkling of infants it is no ordinance of Christ come follow the light and come out of your false baptisme all that you may be buried with Christ in the true baptisme Rom. 6.1 in the suffering and witnesse that through the crosse and so a fellowship with him in the new life ver 3 4. and be baptized into Christ so put him on Gal. 3.27 and by one spirit witnesse that baptisme into one body 1 Cor. 12.11 12 13. where there is one Lord one faith one baptisme and so of such one God and one Father of them all who are of the houshold of God in that church which is the piller and ground of the truth Eph. 4 4 5 6 7. 2 Tim. 2.19 1 Tim. 3.15 Come all you that are weary and heavy laden Mat. 11.28 saith Christ and I will give you rest obey the light and come out of your sins take up the crosse and deny your wills and forsake your iniquities 2 Tim 2.19 and Christ will receive you and elect you he is the foundation of election obey him that you may be laid on him and builded up into the election 1 Pet. 2.4 5. and give all diligence to have the assurance of calling and election 2 Pet. 1.9 10. Christ Jesus he is the light and the way to the Father and the authour both of election and salvation to all that obey him Ephes 1.10 Ephes 2.7 8 18 19. Ephes 3.9 10 11. Heb. 5.8 9. Now Christ Jesus he is the true light that lighteth every man that comes into the world and with his light you see darknesse in you and rebellion and wickednesse and he the true light cal●s you by his light to forsake darknesse wickednesse rebellion sin and evil and he calls you with his light to come out of darknesse 1 Joh. 1.5 and follow him that gives you light that with it you may be led on to him Christ Jesus to the Father of lights and into the marvellous light 1 Pet. 2.9.10 And now that you are called and perswaded by the light to obey and follow it if you will not obey and follow the same but continue in their wilfulnesse sinfulnesse and rebellion taking pleasure in wickednesse and so love darknesse rather then the light and disobey the truth to take pleasure in unrighteousnesse then great will your condemnation and damnation be Ioh. 1.5 9. Ioh. 8.12 Ioh. 14.6 Ioh. 3.19 20. 2 Thes 2.7 8 9 10 11 12. and 2 Thessal 1.8 9. Romans 1.18 Revel 20.10 Rev. 21.8 27. Election and Predestination stands in the counsell of God Those things concerning Election and Predestination stands in the counsell of God and are hid from all the wise and prudent of the world Isa 29.10 11 c. 1 Cor. 1.20 21. 1 Cor. 3.19 20. Col. 1.26 27. Isa 29.16 17 18 19 22 23 24. Rev. 5.1 2 3 4 5. 1 Cor. 1.18 Eph 2. 1 Cor. 6.17 Heb. 2.10 11. yet the secrets of God are with them that fear him and he is pleased to reveal his counsell and such things to babes and those babes are born again contrary to the will of man Ioh. 3.6 7. Ioh. 3.10 11 12. Ioh. 1 22 23. and such as witnessed election and predestination were such as were born again of water and the spirit that the Scriptures speaketh of and knew the mysteries opened in them and to them and saw what God fore knew to predestinate and what to reprobate learn to deny your selves and obey the light that you may be taught of God to know the same and to know the two seeds within and learn to see and know that except you be born again you cannot enter into the kingdom of God nor witnesse assurance of the eternall inheritance nor of election therefore busie not your minds about those things in your wills and fleshly natures for from such and the serpents seed are they hid praised be the Lord Mat. 11 15 26 27. But ye have a light to the which ye do well to take heed unto to obey and follow the light of Christ within in your consciences which checks and reproves you in secret for sin and evill and if you love and obey that light it will teach you and guide you to the sword to know the power to cut and bruise the serpents head within you and so through the crosse to witnesse a suffering with Christ in the mystery through the ministery in the crosse and so know a bearing about in your bodies the dying of the Lord dayly that the light of Christ may through the crosse by slaying the enmity be manifested to your souls and in your mortall flesh 2 Cor. 4.6 7. to the 12. that through the obedience to the light within and the eternall truth through the spirit your souls may be purified 1 Pet. 1.22.23 and the seed raised up by the power of God which Christ taketh upon him and not the nature of Angells and so to witnesse the birth and bearing up over the world and through the quickenings and working of the divine power to know your souls joined to the seed and so to God by being changed from glory to glory into the pure holy image by the spirit of the eternall God to know election in the ground and truths as they are in life and power thereof enjoyed through the obedience to him and his light guide Mat. 25.28 29 30. Mat. 25.41 to the end 2 Thes 1.8 9. and spirit to witnesse the salt seal savoury discerning and holy unction which teacheth all things 2 Cor.
come to me except the Father which hath sent me draw him and I will raise him up at the last day it is written in the prophets and they shall all be taught of God every man therefore that hath heard and learned of the Father cometh unto me Ioh. 6.44 45. Heb. 8.10 11. Heb. 10.14 15 16 17 18 19 20. 1 Pet. 1.10 11 12 13 14 15. Exek 11. to the 17. 4. That Christ Jesus the anointed of God is the saints high Priest and teacher in the new covenant and royall priesthood and he is the end of the first covenant and that priesthood which took tythes and offered sacrifices both for their own sins and the sins of the people but could never make the people perfect thereby but Christ Jesus is the end of that priesthood and law by which they were made priests and by which tythes were commanded for their service to them to be paid Heb. 3.1 Heb. 2.17 Heb. 8.6.7 8 9 10 11. and he who through the eternall spirit offered himself to God the Father hath by his own bloud put an end to the Leviticall priesthood and the law by which they were ordained or made Priests and by which tythes were commanded for their service to them to be paid and he who through the eternall spirit offered himself to God the Father hath changed the Priesthood and law and ended both law and priesthood by which Priests were then ordained and by which to them for their se●vice therein Numb 18. Tythes under that priesthood were paid Numb 18.20 21. so the priesthood and service therein being ended tythes are there ended also for the priesthood being changed and that covenant taken away there was made of necessity a change of the law also so an end of tythes with the Sacrifices burnt offerings and the things there spoken of and Christ Jesus is the everlasting offering and saints high Priest and the mediatour of the new covenant the end of the old and sum of all the things and substance of all types shaddows figures of him and tythes being a thing in the covenant and priesthood which Christ hath ended therefore tythes by him are ended and for proof to confirm the same read at large the 7 8 9 10 chapters to the Hebrewes Those that take tythes c. are not in the new covenant Then such as profess faith in Christ and acknowledge the new covenant and gospel ministration therein which is upon better promises Heb. 8 and 10 chap. and in him dwells the fulness of the Godhead bodily Col. 2.9 Such as this do profess and either take tythes or pay tythes are out of the substance and out of the new covenant that do not deny upholding what Christ Jesus hath shed his bloud for to put an end unto that he might bring in a better hope and to be made perfect pure and compleat in him the substance and fulness Heb. 7.11 to the 20. Heb. 7.22 23 to the end Col 1.26 27 28. 1 Ioh. 3.3 Col. 2.9 10. Eph. 4 11 12 13. But such as profess themselves to be Christs ministers in the new covenant or gospel ministration and takes tythes or compells people to pay them tythes such are enemies to the gospel of Christ and dishonours the Lord Jesus by so doing for such are upholders and causeth others to uphold that which Christ Jesus hath shed his bloud to put an end unto with that priesthood and service Numb 18 1 2 to the 8. In which priesthood and for which service the tythes were paid Numb 18.20 21. and the priesthood and service for which the priests had tythes is ended and done away to christians by Christ and Christs priesthood is not of Aarons tribe that took tythes but of the tribe of Judah that took no tythes nor had no command for the same so not Christs ministers for it is evident that the first priesthood and covenant is changed and ended and that our Lord sprung out of Iudah Heb. 7.11 12 to the 18. which had no command to take tythes but in him they with that first priesthood ended Heb. 7.22 23 to the end Heb. 8.1 2 3 to the 11. Heb. 9.11 12 to the 18 and Heb. 10.1 2 3 4 5 6. to the 21. then such as take tythes upholds the first priesthood which Christ hath ended and such as do so deny Christ come in the flesh 1 Ioh. 4.1 2. to put an end to those things in the Scriptures concerning the first priesthood before-mentioned spoken of and in their works are against him Tit. 1.16 and so Antichristians but the Priests of the world that takes tythes are such so enemies to the cross of Christ Philip. 3.18 19. and enemies to the gospel of Christ therefore Antichristian ministers and not the ministers of Christ nor the gospel 5. That Christ Jesus is the mediatour of the new covenant and the end of the old for he hath taken away the first that he might establish the second upon better promises without sacrifices and burnt offerings so without tythes and this Jesus who is the mediatour of the new covenant and end of the old he is perfect●y able to save to the uttermost without tythes and burnt offerings or mans inventions all those that come unto God by him and he is the authour of eternall salvation to all that obey him Heb. 12.24 Heb. 7.22 Heb. 9.15 Heb. 10.5 6 7 8 9 to the 19. Heb. 5.8 9. 6. That the true worship of God in the new covenant of which Jesus is the mediatour and the saints high priest in the royall priesthood Heb. 3.1 1 Pet. 2 5 and 9. Is in the spirit and the truth as he hath said Ioh. 4.23 24. and God is that spirit which we worship and beholding with open face as in a glass the glory of the Lord are changed according to the working of his divine power after the good pleasure of his will from glory to glory into the same pure image as by the spirit of the Lord. Philip. 3. to the 3 verse 2 Corinth 3.17 18. 7. That the ministers of Christ and the new covenant are made able ministers thereof not by man Gal. 1.1 but by the Lord. Gal. 1.11 12 and 15 16. and such were able ministers of the new covenant not of the later but of the spirit 2 Cor. 3.6 And the ministry of Christ in the new covenant or gospel ministration is for the perfecting of the saints to build them up into the unity of the faith and to lead chem from faith to faith into the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ and to a perfect man in Christ Jesus as is witnessed in the Scriptures both by Christs own doctrine declared of and the declaration of the doctrine of Christs Apostles and ministers Mat. 5.4 8. Phil. 3. Eph. 4.11 12 13. Rom. 1.16 17. Heb. 6.1 Heb. 12.22 23. Rev. 14.3 4 5. 1 Ioh. 5.11 12 13. 1 Cor.
drunken man and had Ezekiell Daniel and the men that were with him been here now and done so trembled and quaked as the Scripture witnesseth of them Ier. 23.9 Ier. 5.22 Ier. 30.5 6. Hab. 3.16 Ezek. 12 18. Dan. 10.8 9 10 11. the Priests of England and their people would have been ready to have said these men had been deluded or mad and have been ready to have reviled them and to have called them Quakers Yet they can take such mens words to professe and trade withall for mony but despise their conditions and magnify themselves against the people of God that witnesseth their conditions and that power which they did and such are now by the Priests of England and their people reproachfully called Quakers but you that reproach the people of God and magnify your selves against them read what the Lord will do to you Mat. 5.10 11 12. Luk. 6.22 23. 1 Pet. 4 13.14 and such like as is spoken of in the prophesie of Zeph. 2.9 10 11. And though we be reviled and reproached by the name of Quakers yet we can gladly rejoyce that we are counted worthy to suffer reproach for the name of Christ to us reproaches are great riches for Christs sake as they was to the holy men of God and to Moses who did exceedingly fear and quake Heb. 11.25 26. Heb. 12.21 The ground and manner of the meeting The meeting at Chadwitch in Worcestershire on the 21 day of the 12 month between the 2 men by the world scornfully called Quakers and the 2 Priests to wit one Priest Osland Pastor to an independent company as they say at Bewdley and one Andrew Trusterom Priest at Clent To the 2 Priests that were at the meeting and others of their party the day aforesaid some passages laid before them to look on and take into consideration and the manner and ground of our meeting in brief as followeth The meeting at Chadwitch in Worcestershire the day aforesaid we whom the world scornfully called Quakers had appointed that day set apart to meet with the people there abouts that used there to meet with others that might come into us that day not knowing any thing of your being there till we came at the place where the meeting was appointed and when we came at the meeting house we found you 2 Priests got peaking up Pharisee like and had been labouring to incense the people against us crying our against false prophets and seducers and p oved to be those same your selves whom some of the people had opposed before we came so finding you peark'c above them and jangling with them out of the envy and pride of your hearts before we came so seeing that I pressed in amongst the people to get in to stand before your faces as I was constrained and moved and with much pressing the throng was so great I pressed through the throng until I came and stood before you the 2 Priests whereupon you made a speech that all the people would be silent but I that you and I might speak together c. But I was not free in my spirit to have the spirits of others tyed up by my promise therefore I opened my mouth to speak as I were guided by the spirit of my Father Mat. 10 20. and said unto you also that the room was very throng so for the truthes sake and for the good of the people there gathered together and for conveniences sake also it would be better to go forth of the doors upon the green hill that all people might hear and be kept cool but that you refused and then would not but said if that I would ask you a question you would answer me or if I would you would ask me a question and I would answer you or if you not be interrupted you would speak or to the effects or if I would speak you would hear me c. Whereupon to that I told you again I had appointed that meeting with the people and had something from the Lord to declare to that people there gathered together so be silent till I have done or declared what from the Lord I have here this day to declare to this people and then if you would have me to ask you a question that I shall do afterwards if God permits whereupon to that yon 2 Priests granted and sat down so by your promise you were bound to hear me and be silent till I had done as aforesaid if you had regarded your word and also after that you were bound accordingly from your own proposition and by your promise to answer my question which was to propound unto you So after that silent I stood a while and a woman bad me to speak and speak up aloud but I to her answered and said woman I am not to be commanded by thee but by the Lord and as he pleaseth so I shall speak whose power I am subject unto and to be ordered by also disposed of according to the good pleasure of his divine will in whose counsell I now do stand Then after that according to the good pleasure of the Lord who had ordered and did order to his praise and according to the assistance of his holy spirit and the working of his divine power I did declare the truth of God as it were witnessed to the witnesse of God in all consciences that were present and heard and shall be witnessed before the judgement seat of Christ for my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of mans wisdom but in demonstration of the spirit and of power c. 1 Cor. 2.3 4. Rom. 2.16 And blessed are they who continue with patience in the well doing 2 Cor. 6. Rom. 2.7 that obey and follow the light and counsell of the word of truth answered within by the light of Christ in their consciences through the mystery of godlinesse Col. 1.27 28. But such as are contentious and disobey the truth to obey unrighteousnesse their portion will be grievous woe and misery 2 Thes 1.6.7 8 9. 2 Thes 2.7.8.9.10.11.12 then indignation and wrath tribulation and anguish Rom. 2.8.9 whether Priest or people But though the truth was that day declared in much power and many of your party at the first and others were pricked at the heart and were much tendered and convinced and many did secretly and some openly confesse to the truth and your selves confessed to that which you said I held forth concerning mortification of sin and the resurrection and other truths till your practises were touched and the worlds churches tythes preaching for hire bearing rule by their means seeking for their gain from their quarter and such like things were declared against at which you the Priests startled who before were convinced of the truth declared and had sighed sobbed and groned in your spirits very often as many can witnesse and as that in your consciences which is my witnesse for Gods truth declared and answer
Good●●r Tho. Chanler and others What wicked blasphemy is this and a gap to profanenesse If so that the devil was guided by the holy Spirit to call Jesus Lord then every drunkard thief whore monger and profane person may say they are guided by the holy Spirit if the devil was for such are his servants and he their master But the devil was not guided by the holy Spirit to say so to wit as aforesaid no more are they therefore Oasland thou art a perverter of the right wayes of the Lord as Elymas was Acts the 13. and so full of all mischief and a child of the devil as he was verse 8. and 10. and taught to blaspheme and lie by the spirit of thy father the devil who was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him then not the holy Spirit of truth for him to call Jesus Lord by as thou saidst he did for he speaketh lies and when he speaketh them he is the father of them they are his own read John 8.44 to be a witnesse against thee and all such Elymas was not guided by the holy Ghost when he withstood the truth but he was guided by the spirit of the devil as thou wast when thou so blasphemously saidst but Elymas was smitten by the holy Ghost for opposing the truth and judgement came upon him for it and Ananias and Sapphira were slain by the holy Ghost for lying against him Acts 5. And thy case is dangerous but smitten thou art by the light in thy conscience and this is a b●ot and stain to it and to thy profession and judgements will pursue thee and overtake thee and vengeance from God for the same except of it thou speedily repent and openly declare against that thy blasphemy own thy errour therein and thy condemnation upon it and take shame to thy self stop thy mouth and cover thy lips Simon Magus was not guided by the holy Spirit when he would have bought it with money but was in the gall of bitternesse and bond of iniquity as thou art that so lies against the truth Act. 8.18.19.20.21 And as no man can call Jesus Lord but by the holy Ghost then such as have not the holy Ghost guiding them cannot by it so call him but the devil and his angels have not the holy Ghost therefore they that have it not cannot with it and by it so call him And Christ himself saith to some Why call ye me Lord Lord and do not the things that I say Luke 6.46 Such as disobey Christs counsell doctrine and commands cannot by the holy Ghost call Jesus Lord in truth but the devil and devillish men disobey Christs counsell doctrine and commands and keep not his sayings therefore they are not guided by the holy Ghost nor cannot by it and with it call Jesus Lord so the gap is hedged up by the holy Ghost But the wicked and such as are deceived by the devil are to be with him cast into the lake of fire to be tormented for ever and ever Rev. 20.10 and such as have not their names written in the Lambes book of life are to be cast into the lake of fire Rev. 20.15 and such as those spoken of Rev. 21.8 and all such are shut out from God and to be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power as are spoken of Rev. 21.27 Rev. 22.15 2 Thess 1.8.9 Thus hath your folly been made manifest as the resisters of the truth before you and as yours is that are resisters of the truth now like such spoken of 2 Tim. 3.1.2.3 c. vers the 8. 9. And thus are your deceits discovered your wickednesse also but they are comprehended chained and with the light condemned therefore silence deceivers But it is good that you have uttered your folly that it may appear to your view which hath lien hid in your old bottles and dock bottomes which now is uncovered and you seen to be painted harlots and serpents like such spoken of Matth. 23. the 25.26 to the 34. read your hearts with the light see also your lies and confusion and stuff of such sort acknowledge your errours own your condemnation to be just thereupon give over deceiving the people and take shame to your selves though the dark see you not yet the children of light doth you and all such as you are both see and comprehend and all your pernicious wayes praised be the Lord who hath raised up a light in his people to see your nakednesse from the truth covered but not with the Spirit of the Lord and so to uncover your skirts your covers will not hide you but leave you naked and bare to the single eyed or children of light also read that commandment which is for you oh Priests it is in Malachy 2.1.2 to the 10. Some short and clear demonstrations laid down concerning the light Some short and clear demonstrations laid down as followeth and proved by plain scripture to shew the honest hearted the truth of that pure light of the gospel of Christ which is so stumbled at with dark minds which may also further serve to clear the accusations that were against the truth that day and before in Worcestershire at Bramsgrave and other places concerning the light that truth may also stand pure in its own place and pure being and stand a witnesse against lying spirits seducers and deceive s who live in errour and deceit 1 Pet. 2.6.7 that stumble at the light now as the Jewes and chief Priests and their party did before Wherefore it is contained in scripture Behold I lay in Sion a chief corner stone elect precious and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded unto you therefore which believe he is precious but unto them which be disobedient the stone which the builders disallowed the same is made the head of the corner 1 Pet. 2.6.7 First demonstration c. Christ he is the light of the world and the true light that enlighteneth every man that cometh into the world and he hath said that such as follow him the true light they shall not walk in darknesse but shall have the light of life as Christ himself hath said see his own words of truth and Johns words that bare record of him for proof to demonstrate and shew and also witnesse to the same grounded truth which is so much stumbled at read Joh. 1.9 Joh. 8.12 Secondly Seeing that Christ is the light of the world as he himself hath said who is to be beli ved and hath also said that such as follow him the light of the world they shall not walk in darknesse but shall have the light of life and John that bare reco d of Christ the light of the world he hath witnessed in his record of him and said that he is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world then such as
say every man is not lighted in some measure with the true light they deny Johns record of Christ and deny Christ to be the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world and such as say every man hath not a light to lighten them they deny the scripture and would make John a liar But such as say so and would do so they are enemies to the truth and the true light so enemies to Christ and the gospel and are false accusers of Iohn that bare record of Christ and so lie against the record that God gave of his sonne but Iohns words of truth and the record that God gave of his sonne shall be witnesse against such to demonstrate shew and confute their lies by plain scripture without consequence read as aforesaid Ioh. 1.9 Ioh. 8.12 and 1 Cor. 12.7 T●tus 2.11.12 Isa 42.6.7.9 Act. 26.18 and Galat. 3.28 Thirdly Light shineth in darknesse but darknesse comprehenceth it not as it comprehended it not then Iohn 1.5 yet light is there where it is not walked in nor obeyed Such as hate the light or sit and walk in darknesse with the light they see darknesse for whatsoever manifesteth darknesse is light Eph. 5.13 And they do not walk in darknesse because they have no light but because they have the light checking and reproving them of evil and they do not forsake their sin by obeying and following the light therefore do they walk in darknesse for such as follow the light are are led out of darknesse into the light of eternall life 1 Ioh. 5.6.7 and such as had been in darknesse and alienated from the life of truth as the Romans and Ephesians were it was not because they had not the light but because they walked not then in it for that which may be known of God saith the Apostle to the Romanes is manifest within Rom. 1.19 and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge God gave them over to themselves Rom. 1.28 c. And such as had been alienated from the life of truth as the Ephesians were whilst they walked in darknesse yet they had light which did to them discover the darknesse and the fruits of darknesse but by obeying and following the light such as so did were led out of darknesse and out of the fruits of darknesse and were led into the light of life so that then they walked in the light of the Lord as they have witnessed and may be seen Ephes 5.8 to the 14. Fourthly And such as were called out of darknesse had the light when they were in darknesse and by the light were they called out of darknesse into the light of the Lord as the strangers scattered throughout Pontus Galatia Capadocia Asia Bithinia such as in time past had not been a people for God after they were called out of darknesse into the marvellous light were then the people of God and such was to demonstrate or shew forth the praise of him who was the true light Ioh. 1.9 1 Ioh. 1.5 and they by obeying and following the light were led into the marvellous light and as they were others by so obeying may but they were therefore for proof read 1 Pet. 2.9.10.11.12 2 Pet. 1.19.20.21 Fifthly And this is the condemnation of the world not that light is not come into the world to shew men their evil deeds but because light is come into the world and men they loved darknesse rather then the light not because they have it not to demonstrate or shew them their evil deeds which is contrary to the light but because they have it to demonstrate and shew them their evil deeds and they hate the light that discovereth their evil deeds and do not obey it to forsake their evil deeds which is reproved by the light John 3.19.20 Eph. 5.13 therefore are they condemued by it Sixthly But all such as love and obey the light doth truth and cometh to the light that their deeds may be made manifest that they are wrought in God and this light is within which they do well to take heed unto as unto a light which shineth in a dark place untill the day dawn and the day-starre doth arise within them in their hearts by which light spirit in the prophecyings teachings workings and counsellings such as follow and obey the same are led out of darknesse errour and deceit into the light of life and so into all truth according to gospel discipline and promise Joh. 3.20 2 Pet. 1.19 20.21 Iohn 14.20.26 Iohn 16.13 Seventhly Then such as say the light and spirit is not sufficient without some other help of mans wit or the like to lead men to the knowledge of the truth and to salvation through the obedience to the truth through the light and spirit of truth according to the fathers teachings only such as say so shew not only their ignorance of the workings of the light of life but their ignorance of the guidance of the spirit of truth and the fathers teachings in the new covenant and gospel ministration likewise and they also seem to lie against the holy Ghost and resist the truth as such spoken of whose folly did appear as theirs doth therefore the case or condition of such is dangerous as so do like such spoken of Rom. 1.18.19 and 28.29.30.31 verses 2 Tim. 3.8.9 Math. 12.31 Eighthly And seeing that Christ is the true light and he said such as follow him shall not walk in darknesse but shall have the light of life and he hath said also that the spirit shall reprove the world of sin unbelief c. and that he shall guide and lead such as follow the guidance thereof into all truth and such as so obey and walk in the spirit should in that day know him in the Father and he in them and they in him Iohn 14.15.16.17.20 and 26. And this spirit should not be a lying spirit nor an imperfect guide to the followers thereof but the true spirit of truth and should dwell within to guide and lead them into all truth And he hath said also that he the spirit of truth should not speak of himself but from him his father and Christ hath said of the spirit that whatsoever he should hear that he should speak and he should also shew them things to come and saith Christ he shall glorifie me for he shall receive of mine and shall shew it unto you and he shall teach you all things so be the saints teacher and he shall bring all things to your remembrance concerning me so the spirit is both the saints teacher their guider remembrancer about the things of God and thus they come to know all truth as Christ hath said which truth in the full knowledge and enjoyment of him and his father doth make them free Ioh. 16.1.2.3 to the 16. Ioh. 14.20 Ioh. 17.10 1 Iohn 2.20 and 27. 9. Then such as say the true light and the spirit according to the Fathers teachings
nature turned from the light as such was and arta proud man called of men master takes tythes and so art out of Christs doctrine and such hath not God as John saith that abideth not in the doctrine of Christ as in the 2 Ioh. 9. Math. 23. and such Christ bids beware of and pronounceth great judgement upon them Mar. 12.38 39 40. I asked thee when the priesthood of England renounced their first ordaination from Bishops and past an act against it but to that thou gavest me no answer but saidst thou wast called to the ministry by Elders but it is as I say by Elders such as are old in deceit and the mystery of iniquity For gospel Elders and such in the eternall truth they never called a tithe monger as I told thee for such dishonour the gospel neither did such Elders ever call any that sought for their gain from their quarter Isaiah 56.10.11 nor a proud covetous self-seeking man called of men maister like thee and the priests of the world who are constrained by tithes silver and gold 20 40 100 or 200 pound by the year as Englands priests are so contrary to gospel call and Eldership and none of those gospel labourers but vain deceivers as thou and such art Such as were made Elders of the flock of Christ and overseers thereof were not called to that work by the will of man but were called and made overseers by the holy Ghost Act. 20.28 and such was to take the care of the flock not by constraint but of a ready mind and not for filthy lucre 1 Pet. 5.2 3 c. And they that were called by Elders in the power of truth were to be blamelesse as the stewards of God 1 Tim. 3.1.2 c. Titus 1.7 8. And such as were called by the Elders and were Elders they coveted no mans siver nor gold Act. 20.33 c. neither did such mans hay nor corn lambs nor wool eggs geese nor pigs nor money neither for meares not foals kine nor calves nor money for gardens bees and smoke passing up peoples chimneys never such as these did they chuse nor call they are a scandall to the truth and a burden to the gospel therefore fore stop thy mouth all hirelings and tithing priests like thee Such as were called chosen and set apart for the work of the ministry of the gospel and appointed thereunto by the holy Ghost and sent out by the laying on of hands they preached freely and were not chargeable nor coveted no manssilver nor gold nor apparel but were blamelesse as the stewards of God Act. 20.28 and 33.34.35 Act. 13. 1 Pet. 5.2.3 1. Tim. 3. Titus 1. And when I read that place of scripture in the Acts to prove how Paul gospel minister that was one that was appointed by the holy Ghost for that work and sent out by the laying on of hands as in Act. 13.1 2 3 4 and that he coveted no manssilver nor gold nor apparell but laboured with his hands to be an example for others to walk by and follow after Act. 20.33 34. then thou Andrew Trusterom Priest of Clent said thou would confute me out of that same place but thou was a lyar I said do then if thou canst then thou asked me what place it was and where it was and I said again therein thou shewed thy rashnesse and forwardnesse speaking so unadvisedly and how wouldst thou confute me out of that same place and knew not where it was so thou shewed thy forward rash minde and to be without a bridle for thy tongue therefore thy religion is vain as such that James speaketh of and I bad thee search the place and prove thy saying but thou did not it remains for thee yet to do it may be was because thou had not that place written down in the leaf end quicken thy memory if thou canst and see what thou can do it is in the Acts the 20 and 33 34 35 vers For as concerning the same besides many other things thou yet lyest under the censure of a lyar and such are of the Devill read Joh. 8.44 and so of such a society or fellowship as are partake●s of the table of Devills and in union with those that drink of that cup as in and with that Scripture I left thee when thou fled and went off from the hill read it and judge your selves both thou and such like as drink that cup and are partakers of that table spoken of in 1 Cor. 10.20 21 22. As for the other thou art yet to prove as I said that it was ever once acted or done and the manner how also by Paul according to thy saying 1 Cor. 11. for thou did not prove it then but left it without the proof therein aforesaid and thou said the word was not damnation where it is said he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh damnation to himself not descerning the Lords body 1 Cor. 11.29 Thou said the word was not damnation but judgement and the Scripture saith in that place not judgement but damnation what a wretch art thou to ly so as thou did but read what is thy portion for thy reward and all such Rev. 21.8 and 27. Rev. 22.18 19. Thou shuffles and seeks to hide and cover Eth. 5.3 4 5 6. least thou be found guilty of that sin in giving damnation to people that thou sets to eat and drink not discerning the Lords body for lyars swearers drunkards proud ones covetous ones scorners malicious ones vain tarkers foolish jesters back biters slanderers false accusers reproachers disdainers couzenours cheaters dogs swine such as those spoken of in 1 Cor. 6.9 10. Pro. 6.16 17 18. Rev. 14.9 10 11. Gal. 5.19 20 21. Rom. 1.28 29 30 31. 1 Ioh. 3.15 Rev. 21.8 and 27. Philip. 3.1 2. Rev. 22.15 Such as those before mentioned and as those Scriptures speaketh of such do net discern the Lords body 1 Cor. 2.14 but are of the serperits seed as such are spoken of Mat. 23.33 and if such be not partakers of the table of Divells and in that fellowship of Divells spoken of in Scripture who are and dost not thou and such as thou art feed flatter and nourish such serpents but let me tell you this you that do so and are such you cannot serve the Lords table that serve the table of Divells you cannot drink the Lords cup and the cup of Divells as to thee Andrew Trusterom Priest of Clent I said at parting therefore repent and all such as thou art and as you are of your idolls and idolatrous wayes of worship as I said and turn from your wickednesse least you dy in your sins arid perish eternally for the wicked and all that forget God shall be turned into hell as you may read Psal 9.17 Rev. 20.10 and 15. And the Independent Priest Osland of Bewdley he said the Divell was guided by the holy spirit to call Jesus Lord this is witnessed by John Higgs Tho.