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A44844 A reply to a book set forth by one of the blind guides of England who is a priest at Barwick Hall in Lancashire, who writes his name R. Sherlock, Batcheler of Divinity, but he is proved to be a diviner and deceiver of the people which book is in answer to some queres set forth to him by them whom he calls Quakers ... / Richard Hubberthorne. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3231; ESTC R6754 26,134 33

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the spirit of love is thy generation tried for when the servants of the Lord have been moved to come into your Synagogues some hast beene stockt and wounded and imprisoned and hailed out of your synagogues And is this the fruits of your spirit Que. Whether they be not seducers that draw people from the annointing which is in them and tell them they must be taught of a man whereas the anoynting teacheth them they need no man teach them but as the annointing teacheth them and the promise is to him that doth abide in it eternally Pr. Many false prophets are gone forth Rep. Here thou hast proved thy self to be a false prophet who denies immediate revelation for whom the Lord sent forth he spoke to them immediately which thou deniest and there thou art one of the false prophets which thou speakest of and knowes nothing of the annointing who deceives the simple and ignorant the world may wonder after such but who are in the light and receive any thing immediate will see thee in the dark to be a deceiver for none in thy generation can witness that you need no man teach you but the annointing for who doth are come out from your teaching and you both And as touching Sects them we deny as thou speakest in thy answer to the fifteenth querie therefore do we see thee with that which is no Sect to be colouring and deluding people telling them thy error is truth who quotes and misapplies the Scripture to maintain thy falshood Pr. The flesh is quickened with the spirit of life to bring forth some kind of fleshly fruits 1 King 8.46 Ioh● 14.4 Prov. 20.9 1 Ioh. 1.8 10. Eccles. 7.22 Rep. Here I charge thee to be a lier and a blasphemer in the presence of the living God let all people read these scriptures and see if there be any such thing in them and whether thou hast not misapplied these scriptures when the spirit saith it crucifieth the deeds of the flesh and walking in the spirit the lusts of the flesh is not fulfilled and here I charge thee to be a lier and of the Devill who was a lier from the beginning and in his generation thou art Qu. 17. Whether they do not bewitch the people who withdraw them from the spirit within to observe the ordinances of the world and tradition● of men without as the Galatians were bewitched Gal. 3.1 Pr. I must tell you that there is not only a holy and good spirit within and that in too few but there 's also an evil and seducing spirit within and that in too many even the spirit that doth bewitch men and draw them aside from the doctrines and commands of the spirit of truth and to strive by all means to draw the people off from giving heed to seducing spirits it is not to observe the ordinances of the world and traditions of men as you pervert the text but to obey the command of Gods true spirit who foretelling of false prophets and false spirits often in the word commands exhorts and admonishes to beware of such not to give heed to such and not to believe every spirit but to trie them Rep. Here in this answer thy spirit is tried which I have given to all people to read with a single eye that all may see what confusion here is in it First thou sayest that the seducing spirit drawes from the seducing spirit and in the seducing spirit thou art and from the spirit of life with the spirit of life thou art judged to be out of the doctrine of Christ nor is not guided by the holy spirit Que. 18. Whether they be not seducers which tell people these are the ordinances of God which God never commanded as sprinkling infants telling people of a sacrament which there is no scripture for and draw them from the spirit within to follow your imaginations and inventions Pr. But for sprinkling infants I have already given you the grounds of it out of scripture Rep. Here again I charge thee in the presence of the living God to be a lyar there is not such a word in the scripture to bear it out nor a word of a sacrament which there is no scripture for let all read the scripture throughout and see if they can find such a word in the scripture so let all people judge thee to be a liar and a s●ducer and in the devils invention which calls that an ordinance of God which is invention and imagination Pr. We are not blind-folded to follow the dictates of the spirit within Rep. Here J charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be in the flesh and to follow the flesh for who are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God and thou that dost not follow the dictates of the spirit thou dost not follow the commands of God and what hast thou to do to talk of clearing it by the scripture when there is no scripture for it and when the scripture witnesses against the works of the flesh which thy spirit stirs up Qu● Whether you have the same spirit which was in Christ the Apostles and Prophets which gave forth the scripture seeing you act contrary to the scrip●ures and follow your own inventions and tradition● and so erre from them Pr. Our ministeriall actions are agreeable to the scripture Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lyar for in thy answer to the former Quere thou sayest you do not follow the dictates of the spirit within and art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no scripture for and so walk contrary to the scripture and to them that were led by the spirit which gave them forth Que. 2● Whether ever Christ and his Apostles did first baptize and then preach faith and repentance twenty or thirty years afterwards Pr. Christ himself wa● not capable of faith and repentance Rep. Here J charge thee to be a lier and a slanderer for he was capable of faith and repentance and the baptisme which the Apostles baptized withall what hast thou to do with it who art holding up sprinkling infants which there is no example for in the scriptures nor in all the Apostles practises Therefore silence flesh for thou knowest nothing of the wisdome of God which the Apostle speaks of but art in the state of Simon Magus who art buying and selling the letter worse then he for he would have bought the spirit which the Apostles denied so thou art denied with the same spirit but the saints baptisme we owne and the beleevers and the promises which is to the seed thou hast cleared thy selfe from who saith Christ was not capable of faith how could he be above it and not capable of it and the life that I live is by faith of the Son of God saith the Apostle which thou hast cleared thy selfe from Que. 21. Whether ever Christ and his Apostles received 100. or 200. pounds a yeare for preaching the Gospel Pr. Many of the Apostles converts
it was at Samaria who art in the pride of heart And as thou saiest the Devill hath sown his crop and r●apt his harvest and there thou art one of his servants sowing his seed and among the delusions as thou calls them fo● that is in thy Generation which comes one of thy owne bottle which now showes out what is within issues forth this is thy own condition who seduces the people the fire is kindling and the tares are burning which makes you wicked ones to cry out and so all impostures and blasphemies are in thy generation and you are ignorantly worshipping and your grosse idolatry which thou speakest of is your owne and thou art a murderer and understandest not what thou speakest of them and God thou knowest not who deniest imm●diate revelation from heaven but onely what thou knowest thou knowest naturally as a bruit beast which Iude speaks of and a great deal of stuffe thou hast in this Introduction which is not worth mentioning If the Reader do but read with a single eye he may see all thy confused stuffe which is not worth naming and a great deale of stuffe tho● hast written in discourse of the Spirit and the Holy Ghost which thou knowest not what thou speakest and of the Trinity which there is no Scripture for A Reply to an Epistle that thou wrotest to him whom thou callest Sir Robert Bindlosse THe Queries being sent to his house from Rich. Hubberthorne being his desire that they should be made publike and we do praise the LORD that deceipt is brought to light And thou sayest perhaps some satisfaction might be given to those seduced wavering soules amongst you truly I do believe they will and see your folly that under his name whom thou callest Sir Rob. Bindlosse under his name and patronage they may appear as a covert to veil● their imperfections But they will not vaile your imperfections Therefore R. B. to three I say be wise and feare the Lord and run not on in the broad way with such a one who doth confesse in his answer to the first querie that he doth not attain the same knowledge and understanding of the Gospell as the Apostles attained therefore thou R. Sh●rlock thy knowledge is bruitish and thy understanding sottish as the Scripture saith for none knowes the Apostles condition and knowledge but with the same understanding and in this thou deniest it and thou art in another knowledge and understanding and art in another doctrine and the true Gospel thou dost not know and thou art to be held accursed as the scripture saith Gal. 1. and so here thou hast given satisfaction to many that stood in doubt though to all the children of light thou wast known all things shal work together for good to them that love God Rom. 8. therfore R. B. take heed what thou lets forth under thy name and fathers for if thou see a thief and consent with him thou art guilty And R. Sherlock the queries that were sent to thee thou callest them scrupulous and the Letter which was sent to thee as a Libell why doest thou slander the innocent and simplicity but of thy generation we look for no other whose mouth is full of slanders Thou slanderer in thy Ep●st●e to the Lady thou slanderest privily under a colour who flatters her where thou art telling her of love and stirs her up to envy as in pag. 46. and incensing her and would stir her up against them wh●m th●u callest Quake●s so thou mightst as well have incensed her against Moses who was a judge over all Israel and quaked and David who was a King quaked so all that are vertuous wil own us who denieth opinions for them we deny and there thou art who livest in opinions and as thou speakest of some to strike at the root of many infections and errors which is overspread amongst you the Lord Iesus Christ hath raised up a light in his children that they are striking at your root and laying open the deceits and bringing forth his own work to his own praise and thou sayest all men do worship God and Christ with one heart and one mouth and after one manner is not only decryed but also dismist our Congregations And since the pale of Ecclesiasticall Discipline is pulled down by whose coercive lawes all men were kept within the limit of the true faith Here I charge thee to be a lyar was the true faith maintained by an outward Law and the Church and the worship of God Thou Traytor have they pluckt down the true Faith and the wo●sh●p of God or your old Ceremonies Thou seducer how art thou tormented by that which hath pluckt down the traditions Tremble for the hand and sword of the Lord is against thee as it was against them thou dissembler and envious one the Law was not made for the Church which is the pillar and ground of truth which worships God in the spirit but for such envious persons as thou art who hast cleared thy Church and worship here from the tr●e Church and worship of God to the view of all honest hearts and thou art tormented because the freedome i● given for the libertie of tender consciences to worship God his owne way even in spirit and in truth as in Joh. 4.23.24 And thou saiest since under the name and priveledge of ●iberty of conscience licentiousnesse of opinion hath got footi●g and this thou seemes to Father upon the Magistrats Wee which are in the light of Christ Jesus which doth excercise our consciences towards God and man all opinions and licentiousn●sse we deny Therefore thy mouth must be stopt Osl●nderer which sowet● dissention for since the Lord hath opened the Magistrates understanding with the light of Christ in them the same light doth give freedome to the light in others consciences which worketh into tendernesse of co●science and teacheth to exercise a good conscience towards God and man and such Magistrates do not make a law over the consciences of me● which thou seducer and bruitish fellow wouldest have a l●w up●n but the law is against such as thou art and so thou h●st shewed thy selfe to be in the franticke state and Heresie which th●u ●alks on and many such speeches as thou hast in thy Epistle to Sir R●● Bindl●ss as thou callest him and whereas thou speakest of your Church and hope your hope will perish and your Church and all who are in the light will be ashamed of your Church And thou art he who art of the Devil who dost promote lies ●nd untruths which is of thy Fathe● the Devill Joh. 8. ●4 But God is coming with his mighty power to chaine up thee thy Father the Devill the old Dragon who is the Father of lies and thou art one of his servants who blindeth the understandings of the people which are in the unbeleife and seeks to poison their affections with vanities and lying slanders and in thy conclusion thou wouldest not have him to