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the_o father_n by_o bellarmine_n own_o confession_n calvin_n doctrine_n be_v direct_o contrary_a 2._o he_o teach_v say_v the_o marquesse_n that_o the_o father_n can_v obj._n neither_o whole_o nor_o by_o part_n communicate_v his_o nature_n to_o christ_n but_o must_v withal_o be_v deprive_v thereof_o himself_o this_o be_v clear_o confute_v by_o calvin_n word_n which_o bellarmine_n answ_n allege_v if_o there_o be_v any_o differe_n we_o in_o the_o essence_n viz._n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n suprà _fw-la let_v they_o answer_v whether_o the_o father_n do_v communicate_v it_o to_o the_o son_n or_o no_o now_o this_o can_v not_o be_v in_o part_n for_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o make_v half_o a_o god_n beside_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o shall_v foul_o tear_v in_o piece_n god_n essence_n it_o remain_v that_o the_o whole_a and_o entire_a essence_n be_v common_a to_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n 3._o calvin_n be_v say_v to_o deny_v that_o the_o son_n be_v beget_v of_o the_o 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