Maiestie their honors and the Bishops may be assured hereof Or will they promise this on the worde of a faithfull minister that they will exercise their ministerie no otherwise But why then do they it not For there is no other thing required of them and it is their dutie so to doe it But what especiall regard of the peace of the Church publike orders if they had libertie to exercise their ministery according to their consciences is it likelie that our brethren would haue wheÌ„ as they were restrayned only for the abuse hereof being restrayned do thus disturbâ— the peace of the Church the publike orders of the same Yea all their especiall regarde and drift is against the publike orders And if nowe they should thus be with fauour allowed to exercise their ministery according to their coÌ„sciences what would our brethreÌ„ then spare to do against these publike orders I maruel therfore how they can thus coÌ„fidently say it is impossible but that they shall exercise their ministerie c. Whereas it is both against all sense and reason yea plaine impossible to bee graunted to them without we would with all graunt vnto them all their desires and deuises in these controuersies For the residue of this conclusion we say in part with our bretheren also Wherefore most Christian reader when thou shalt by these fewe take knowledge of these things which are contayned in this preface and in this Learned discourse praye vnto God for vs and as thy place is and so farre foorth as accordeth with thy dutie therein sollicite and furder so iust a cause as that the peace of the Church the publike orders gouernment established be not preiudiced to this end only that Christs kingdome may be perfectly established the consciences of all the godly quieted the happy regimeÌ„t of her Ma. honored with much peace ioy and quietnes both at home among vs and that it may ouerflowe to thâ— reliefe comfort and good example of other parts of Christes Church that are distressed in forraine countries To the which effects good Christian Reader cal vpon God our heauenly Father in the name of his sonne ouâ— Sauiour Christ for the illumining of his holie spirit that thy iudgement being not foreâ—talled in these matters and yet being desirous to sée the trueth and to search out the bothom of these doubtes thou mayest bee able to discerne the spirites aright to resolue and staye thy selfe on the very grounde of trueth in all these questions And so a Gods name enter nowe into the perusall and considering of this learned discourse The first booke of this defence against the learned discourse of Ecclesiasticall gouernment The argument of the first Booke THE first booke is of the principles of this learned discourses platforme of the Churches gouernment of their partition thereof into a Tetrarchie of 4. estates Doctors Pastors Gouernours and Deacons and of their necessitie and perpetuitie of the perswasion to leaue our own Estate and embrace the Estate of our neighbors and of their putting back the treatise of the Christian Princes supreame Gouernment in Eccl. causes and their reasons why they will not first treate there-on vntill they haue before assigned vnto all and euerie of these 4. Estates all their places with their seuerall and ioynt offices and authorities wherein is shewed not only what daunger and iniurie is offred vnto Christian Princes but also with what vnworthie contumelies and sclaunders they are reiected to the ende of this Learned discourse A learned discourse of Ecclesiasticall gouernement prooued by the worde of God THis is the Title commendatorie of this booke besides the other title which they set before it A brief or plaine declaration concerning the desires of al those faithfull ministers c. But because this later title liked them better our brethren take the former part of this title prefixe ouer euerie leafe of all their treatise this commendation A learned discourse of eccl gouernment I referre the iudgement of the learning to the learned Me thinketh our brethren should haue done better to let the discourse commende it selfe whether it be learned or vnlearned vino vendibili non â—pus haedera But what soeuer the reader can iudge of learning let him stil haue his ayme to this point that is here auouched but not likewise set vp ouer euery leafe proued by the word of God For beit learned or vnlearned proue that we yéelde And if our brethren proue it not by the word of God then we craue of them that they will cease these contentious discourses and not stande so much vpon their learning But both their learned discoursing of Eccl. gouernment and their prouing the same by the word of God shall appeare God willing to the Reader by the discoursing The Church of God is the house of God therefore ought to be directed in al things according to the order prescribed by the housholder himselfe which order is not to be learned else-where but in his holie word The first of these principles or propositions is the very worde of the holy Ghost vttered by Paul The second followeth necessarily of the first The third is a manifest trueth beleeued of all them that acknowledge the scripture of God to be a perfect rule of all our life and able to make the man of God perfect prepared to all good workes On these thrée principles our brethren lay their ground of al their learned discourse Which being rightly vnderstoode and building well vpon them are verie good principles or rather propositions as they terme theÌ„ Of this first is saide ynough alreadie concerning Dauids comparing him selfe to the stone in the corner of this mysticall houses building And most gladly we admit this our brethrens testimonie for the same as the verie worde of the holy Ghost vttered by Paule and that this house of God which is the Church of the liuing God is the piller and ground of truth Because it alwayes vpholdeth and maintaineth the trueth both in this matter of eccl gouernment and in all other so farre as is necessarie to saluation Albeit Christe in principall properly and absolutely is the onely ground and foundation of this house And heere by the way sith by this testimonie of S. Paul the Church which is the house of God is thus the piller and ground of the truthe If this gouernment that our brethren vrge be so necessarie and of so great moment to the house or church of God then is it likely the the Church of God though it hath not alwaies and in all places yet for the most part of time places or at leastwise in some ages and places had this gouernment maintained kept it or striued for it or else belike it was not thought so necessarie The second principle they say followeth necessarily of the first And so it doth which seconde was this and therefore this Church
wisedome shall turne the truth aside but all shall stand in the euident demonstration of Gods spirit The waye which they haue before set downe although it be not able nor likelie without some moderators and determiners appointed by hir Maiestie and their honours to effect a perfect reconciliation and sure vnion yet the matters in controuersie being so in writing on bothe sides debated cannot well be saide to come naked in respect of the robes and ornaments of the scripture sithe the grounds of all their prooues should be taken either out of the expresse testimonies of the scripture or out of necessarie consequence of the scripture Except perhaps they meane by being richlie attyred with all robes and ornaments which the scripture giueth vnto the synodicall assemblies for such conferences their owne interpretations and rhetoricall exornations of the scripture But let the scriptures as they say be searched out for the true vnderstanding of them with as much reasoning as shall be thought necessarie and sufficient without all by matters quarrels euasions and coulours whatsoeuer and so a Gods name naked or adorned let the matter be further tried when it shall But what meane they héere that they adde yet further That there be much order when the spirit of euerie prophet shall- be subiect vnto the spirits of the other prophets Would they reduce this synodicall conference to the order of prophesying which they began of late in the imitation of that order which S. Paule mentioneth 1. Cor. 14 For that was not a strict and logicall reasoning nor a deliuerie of their assertions and aunswers by writing but a discoursing at large by mouth nor so properlie anie disputing one against another as an interpreting one after an other or exhorting instructing and comforting one another as the spirit which at that time wrought miraculouslie in them gaue them vtterance is this then that conference which our brethren desire Bicause they saye they would not be stopped of free and sufficient answer This is nothing agréeable to the waye whereof they saide before they could thinke of no waie but that which should be When the reasons on both sides without all out-goings are shortlie and plainelie deliuered in writing each to other And héere contrariwise they would haue the Iudgement of all sufficientlie heard and the spirit of euerie Prophet to be subiect to the spirits of the other prophets and that all shall stand in the euident demonstration of Gods spirit So that vnder pretence of the demonstration or reuelation of Gods spirit as though yet those miraculous reuelations and demonstrations of the spirit of God were still and in these matters to be expected and not the manifest euiction of Gods word if once they said that we on our side had not the spirit of God but onelie they either we must yeeld to them or else nothing shall- be determined betwéene vs. But if the matter shall come to the iudgement of the other prophets supposing all to be prophets in the synod or companie appointed for the conference our brethren might perhaps be deceaued of their hoped successe without anye lordlie carriyng awaie of the matter Neither is it méete we graunt that the matter should be stopped without such free and sufficient answer as is requisit for such a disputation or with lordlie carrying awaie of the matter with no substance of reason or by authoritie or pregnancie of wit or plausible persuasion of mans wisdome to turne the truth aside These spéeches are but byowse slaunders glaunsing at the Bishops and at the synodall assemblies in the conuocation house as though they out-countenanced the matter with such shifts which is neither charitablie nor truelie spoken by our brethren But who come néerest to these practises we shall sée afterward God willing when wee come to the treatise of Synods in this learned discourse Lastly say they that there be peace without all bitternesse reuilings suspitions charging of men dead and aliue whereby affections are moued iudgement blinded and men driuen as with a mightie streame from the loue of the trueth When it commeth thus adorned we thinke that which we labour to procure to be so honorable not onely before God but also before men that none can iudge otherwise of it than we doe Turpe est doctori cûm culpa redarguit ipsum Would God our brethren their selues would leaue off these practises which here they would haue to be lest off What is more bitter or bitternesse it selfe then are the spéeches which euen in their entrie into this meanes of reconciliation they haue here vsed And all this learned discourse is still besprinckled with this bitternesse with reuilinges with suspitions and with charginges of men both dead and aliue For not onely our Bishops and we that God be praysed are aliue be charged by our brethren but the charge burdeneth no lesse all those Bishops and ministers that first concluded vppon the Eccles. Lawes nowe in force Yea it includeth the Princes of so godly memorie that with their cleargie and the whole state of the Church and Realme established the same But perhaps our brethren here do meane that we vse to defend these Lawes with this argument that such and such most excellent men allowed of them and of all thinges they loue not to heare of this argument whereby they say affections are moued iudgement blinded and men driuen as with a mightie streame from the loue of the truth Indéede in a false matter it may so doe and hath doone much among the papistes and by our brethrens leaue they also are carried too much away with charginges of men dead and aliue and with too much forestabled opinions of such and such men as to say Caluine being dead Beza or Daneus being aliue were of this or that opinion in these thinges And therefore I haue also labored some what the more to lay before the reader amonge all other especially their opinions that the reader may better weigh their proues and sée howe far they agrée or disagrée about thinges And the like we all doe with Swinglius Peter Martyr Bullinger Musculus c. With Cranmer Ridley Latimer Hooper Iuell c. being dead besides Gualter Zanchius others being aliue Not to vse the opinions or sentences of these most famous men to carie away the affections and blinde the iudgementes of men to be driuen as with a mightie streame from the loue of the trueth God forbid Amicus Plato amicus Socrates magis amica veritas But to confirme men better in the truth as we also alleage the holie auncient fathers Ireneus Tertullian Cyprian Clemens Alexandrinus Origene Eusebius Epiphanius Basill Theodoret Chrysostome Ierome Ambrose Augustine c. As witnesses only to the trueth in doubtfull matters and to heare their iudgementes and consentes in these questions what was the vse or opinion of them in their dayes And this doe our Brethren themselues and giue vs
or house of God ought to be directed in all thinges according to the order prescribed by the housholder himselfe Which principle is true within the boundes thereof that is to say in all thinges that he hath prescribed But if he haue not prescribed all thinges appertayning to the externall gouernment of his Church or house then are those thinges which are not prescribed by the housholder himselfe not to be so vrged as that they ought necessarily this way or that way to be alwayes directed The Apostle Hebr. 8. verse 5. saith out of Exod. 25. verse 40. Moses was warned by God when he was about to finish the Tabernacle See sayde he that thou make all thinges according to the paterne shewed to thee in the mount But the Apostle proceeding in the ninth Chapter verse 11. applying this first Tabernacle to the second which he calleth a greater and more perfect Tabernacle not made with handes that is not of this building meaning the naturall bodie of Christe referreth not this to the mysticall bodie which is the Church or house of God and much lesse to the externall forme of regiment in all matters ecclesiasticall or belonging to the Churches gouernment No not when before chap. 3. verse 1. c. he speaketh both of Christ himselfe and of his house or Church also Therefore sayeth he holy brethren partakers of the heauenly vocation consider the Apostle and high Priest of our profession Christ Iesus who was faithfull to him that hath appointeâ— him euen as Moses was in all his house For this man was counted woorthie of more glorie thâ—n Moses in asmuch as he that hath builded the house hath more honour than the house For euery house is builded of some man and hee that hath built all thinges is God Nowe Moses verelie was faithfull in all his house as a seruant for a witnesse of the thinges which should be spoken after but Christe is as the sonne ouer his owne house whose house wee are if we holde fast the confidence and the reioysing of the hope vnto the ende Here againe we sée that this faithfulnesse in all his house as Moses was faithful is not to be reckoned as though he went about to shewe vs that all pointes of the externall regiment of the house or Churche of Christe haue a prescribed order by which they ought to bee directed in all thinges but that in the inwarde and spirituall regiment thereof we should acknowledge Iesus Christ the sonne of God to be the Lord and owner of this house and to consider him as the Apostle and high Priest of our profession that is of our Christian faith and religion and to confirme our faith in him that wee are his house or Church if wee holde fast not this or that externall forme of Ecclesiastical gouernment but the confidence and reioysing of hope vnto the ende And thus farre foorth and not furder we admit this second principle or proposition And this is necessarie to be obserued because this principle is here set downe in such captious order as insinuating that Christ had prescribed an order in all thinges in his house or Church according to the prescription whereof all thinges ought to be directed In which sense it is no principle but a question betwéene vs which wâ— denie and our brethren affirme but as yet they haue not prooued it The thirde saye they is a manifest trueth beleeued of all them that acknoweledge the Scripture of God to bee a perpetuall rule of all our life and able to make the man of God perfect prepared to all good workes Here againe another caption is to be taken héede of in this their thirde principle which order is not to bee learned else-where but in his holie woorde For if they meane it of the order that in his holie worde he hath prescribed true it is that order is not to be learned any where else as anie necessarie prescription otherwise then as an exposition of the same order for our more cleare and fuller learning thereof And so alwayes kéeping the foundation the godlie fathers and expositors may builde there-on and the godlie gouernours of the Church may beautifie and adorne the same so that all be doone to Gods glorie and to the true edifying of the Church And so this third proposition is a manifest trueth beleeued of all them that acknowledge the scripture of God to be a perfect rule of all our life and able to make the man of God perfect prepared to all good workes But it followeth not héere-upon that all generall or particuler orders in the externall gouernement of the Church are not else-where to bee learned but in Gods holie woorde except they meane by Gods holie worde such as are inclusiuely comprehended and not expresselie specified in his holie worde For they their selues haue not all their orders expressely mentioned and in all thinges prescribed in Gods holy worde For example their owne communion booke entituled The forme of Common prayers administration of the Sacramentes c. They dare not auowe that all thinges therein conteyned haue not beene learned else-where but in his holie worde and are there to be founde eyther in plaine woordes or necessarie implication but because they thinke that they are not contrarie they dare auouch thus farre to call them Agreeable to Gods worde And yet as though the agreeablenesse also might be called in question they adde héere-to And the vse of the reformed Churches And as their owne booke of Common prayers vseth all these helpes to saue all vpright for feare they might be chalenged in this poynt euen so this booke which our bretheren commende vnto vs to be A learned discourse of Ecclesiasticall gouernment prooued by the worde of God wee shall finde in the discourse thereof that the learned discoursers learned not all the orders prescribed there-in out of Gods holie worde but somewhat else-where Except they will likewise say it is agreeable or not contrarie to Gods holie worde Wherein also we shall God willing sée how they faile But if that answer may thus serue them I sée not whie it may not as well serue vs if we haue no other gouernement established but such as is agreeable and not contrarie to the holie word of God although it be not in his holie word expresselie prescribed Neither dooth this text of S. Paule 2. Tim. 3.17 anie more infringe euerie order in the churches gouernement that it maye not be learned else-where but in Gods holie worde then it dooth infringe euerie other order in the ciuill policie or administration of euerie mans morall behauiour that their orders also are not to be learned else-where but in Gods holie word Bicause thiâ— is a manifest truth beleeued of all them that acknowledge the scripture of God to be a perfect rule of all our life and able to make the man of God perfect prepared to all good workes But it sufficeth for such orders as
they here giue thē an harder title to be not the greatest fauourers then that I hope they will say they implie our gratious Soueraigne in that tearme If then they meane that we liue vnder such a blessed Prince as fauoureth the Gospell doe these men speake it in good sooth as indéede sooth it is or doe they Iest or speake it but for fashion sake But howe-soeuer they séeme to glaunce hereat for they neither say it in expresse wordes but as it were by comparison doe séeme to inferre as much in telling vs of other places in the worlde where the Princes are not the greatest fauourers notwithstanding they tell vs neither what thing it is whereof they are not the greatest fauourers But I ghesse that in this their Rhetoricall breuitie they meane that they fauour not the Gospell or the Church of God For it séemeth they referre it not to this Regiment that themselues fauour and desire For so they knowe that her Maiestie being also not the greatest fauourer of their desired Regiment they might conclude that the Churche of Englande which they crie out of to bee in a state disordered should bée in that most blessed estate which they desire They séeme therefore to meane this that her Maiestie is indéede a fouourer of the Gospell or Church of God and yet the state of the Churche of God vnder Her Maiestie is in an vnperfect lesse blessed and more disordered estate than it is where the Princes are not the greatest fauourers of the Church of God and of his Gospell Which if it be their meaning as I woulde be loath to gather of their wordes anie thing beyonde their meaning so I had rather they expounded themselues or that their wordes néeded not an expositer as well many times as an aunswere Nowe then if their meaning be thus that her Maiestie is a fauourer of the Gospell and of the Church of God although this in some sense may séeme but a colde and sclender commendation bestowed on her Maiestie to bee but a fauourer as though thee liked well ynough thereof and liked of others that professed it but her selfe were not so zealous a professour and louer of the Gospell yet construyng all this to the best interpretation of her fauour thereunto that her Maiestie is a great fauourer of the Gospell of God and of his Church howe then doth shee so highlie fauour the same and yet not suffer the Church of God to be so perfecte in all her Regiment as where no Christian but Heathen Princes are and not to be in so blessed estate as it is vnder those Ciuill Magistrates that are not the greatest fauourers Meaning indéede vnder a gentle name for reuerence sake are no fauourers at all but so much as they can hate and persecute the Gospell and Church of God and yet will they nill they suffer it more to florishe herein than her Maiestie doeth béeing so great a fauourer of the same What a foule rebuke vnder pretence of commendation is this to her Maiestie Yea what a kinde of fauouring call ye this when the not fauouring of the enemie is better for the Regiment of the Church than the fauourers loue Indéede accidentalli◠thinges may fall out so cleane contrarie as he that thought to kill his enemie did him more good in thrusting him thorough and opening that impostume settered within him then all his friendes and Phisitions that could not helpe him But what gra-mercie was that to him Whereas directly of it selfe is not this threatned of God that he will take awaye a good Prince in his wrath and giue an euill Prince to punishe the wickednesse of his people and doeth not God promise as a great blessing to his Church that Kinges should be the foster fathers and Queenes should be the noursing mothers thereof But by these men they had a better Regiment when they had Pharao to nourse them with drowning of the infantes in the water and oppressing their parentes on the lande and when Herode bathed the infantes in their owne bloud Did GOD meane they shoulde haue suche Pappe with an Hatchet and that Princes should be nourses on that fashion Or did hee rather meane that when he would sende such Princes as should fauour his Gospel and his Church euen as the good nource comforteth and guideth well the childe and is as it were an-other Parent to it vnder whom the childe battelleth and is well brought vppe so next vnder GOD our heauenly Father wée should be nourished fed comforted defended and guided till we growe to our perfect age in Iesu Christe vnder the godlie Gouernement of our Christian Princes And is this that is promised for so great a blessing turned to a curse And the curse turned to so great a blessing God is able indéede to turne all thinges to good God had his Church still euen in the most dreadfull persecutions that euer were and the gold is siner that is tryed in the fornace seuen times So that this redoundeth in the end both to the greater glorie of God and to the better confirmation of his Church But what can we conclude hereon That the Church when such hauocke is made in the congregation and it is dispersed here and there is then more perfect in al her Regiment and in most blessed state S. Paule saith Rom. 5. Where sinne abounded grace did more abound But what shall we say then saieth S. Paule Rom. 6. Shall we continue still in sinne that grace may abound God forbid And in those dayes of more iniquitie abounding in the time of planting amonge the Gentiles the faith and Gospell of Iesus Christe the most parte of the Gentiles raged and the people imagined vaine thinges the kinges of the earth assembled and the rulers came together against the Lorde and against his Christe Al-be-it the faith tooke rooting amonge some both Princes and people And GOD in that extraordinarie time dealt extraordinarilie with them both with extraordinarie gifts and extraordinarie offices Whereby he so helped and beautified that Primitiue estate of the Churche of Christe among all those troubles persecutions dissipations that the Church séemed rather to flourish thē to be oppressed to be In most blessed estate in some respects when in other respectes it was in most pitifull estate as S. Paule sayth 2. Cor. 6. of Gods helpe at such times For he sayth I haue heard thee in a time accepted and in the day of saluation haue I succoured thee Behold now the accepted time behold nowe the day of saluation We giue no occasion of offence in anie thing that our ministerie should not be reprehended but in all thinges wee approue our selues as the ministers of God in much patience in afflictions in necessities in distresses in stripes in prisons in tumults in labours By watchings by fastinges by purenesse by knowledge by long suffering by kindnesse by the holie Ghost by loue vnfeined by the worde of truthe by the power
forsoothe hee being furnished with the testimonies of the Scripture and other helpes of the Holie-ghoste did as it were ouerwhelme all his aduersaries For the word of disturbing them that Luke vseth dooth signifie that when Paule pressed them beyonde measure they were so dashed that they were not their owne men The manner of his disturbing them is expressed in that Paule confirmed Iesus to be Christe For the sense is when the Iewes cheefelie would striue against it they were notwithstanding ouercome and confounded So that Paule by experience prooued that it was moste true which he pronounceth that the Scripture is profitable to reprooue 2. Tim. 3.16 And he performed that which in another place he required of a Bishop and a Doctor For he was armed with the word of God to auouche the truthe Tit. 1.9 And indeede Luke comprehends two things that Paule in disputing was a Conqueror in suche sorte that he made the Iewes to fall And yet their stubbernesse was not so broken and tamed that they would yeeld vnto the truthe Bicause for all this their consciences turmoiled within them and being dashed downe from the degree of their false opinion they neuer a whitte submitted themselues to Christe Therefore so often as heretikes doo arise to oppugne the right faith so often as the wicked doo enterprise to shatter all godlinesse so often as naughtie persons doo obstinatelie withstande let vs remember from hence to fetche our armour c. Thus dooth Caluine liuelie expresse the vehement moouing of affections to astonish the hearers that S. Paule vsed in his teaching and making it all one office in the Doctor and in the Bishop and applying his precepts to Timothie and Titus to this dooing of Paule and to the dutie of all true and zealous Teachers And héerévpon also dooth Gualter gather this generall rule This place saithe he admonisheth that the doctrine of the Gospell ought to be preached In which pointe the opinion of manie is that they thinke a simple and full explication of the mysteries of saluation dooth suffice and that they labour in vaine and are intollerable authors of dissensions which reprooue the tyrannie of Antichriste oppugne superstition and publikelie vndertake to enter into controuersie with the professed enimies of the truthe True it is that the simple doctrine of the truthe mought haue sufficed except there were suche as would endeuoure to lappe the same in errors and darkenesse and withdrawe the vnheedfull out of the pathe of truthe but sithe there haue beene suche bothe in times paste and at this daye maye commonlie be founde it behooueth the faithfull to be admonished that they should not giue eare vnto them Which thing you shall neuer bring to passe except yee make an euident proofe that they erre all the world ouer Againe when the impudencie of manie breaketh out so farre that openlie they dare gaine-saie the truthe they are publikelie also to be confuted least by their rashnesse they shoulde make the cause of the truthe suspected Wee read that not onelie the Apostles but Christe himselfe did either of these things Whose example all these worthilie ought to follow whosoeuer will be called and counted the Ministers of his Church Which is the cause that Paule would haue such kinde of Doctors which cannot onelie instruct the rude in sounde doctrine but also conuince those that speake against it Titus 1. And he testifieth also that the Scriptures are giuen to the same end that they may serue for rebuking of the aduersaries 2. Timoth. 3. Which seemed to the Holie-ghoste a matter of such importance that he would not onelie haue the Deceauers of that age to bee reprooued by the Apostles but hee would haue vs also to bee admonished of those that in the laste times should moleste the Churche By which generall rule of Gualter agréeing with Caluine héerevpon it appeareth that Paule applyed his doctrine and ioyned admonition and redargution as well as exhortation and consolation to his Teaching And that this Teaching is so little distinguished from the Pastors office that it is common with the office and dutie of all Bishops and Ministers of the worde And that except these applications be ioyned therevnto the simple declaration of the truthe although it be fullie set out dooth not many times suffice to ouerthrowe the malapart importunitie of the aduersaries And as Paule thus not onelie for the occasion of that time but for the example of our and all times made this introduction into his office of Teaching so hée continued in such feruencie till he met with Barnabas at Ierusalem after thrée yeares trauell in Arabia and all in this Citie of Damascus that the Iewes no doubte exasperated by his laying so hardlie their errors and obstinacie to their charges wente about to kill him From thâ— which daunger being escaped and come to Ierusalem after Barnabas had exhorted the Disciples to admitte him into their companie Hee was conuersante saith Luke verse 28. with them at Ierusalem and spake boldlie in the name of the Lorde Iesus and disputed with the Grecians But they went abouâ— to slaie him Belike he was still more earnest in reproouing them than all the resâ—due For the worde 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth not oâ—elie that hee spake boldlie or confidentlie but frankelie and freelie and that with liberty and reprehension Wherevpon the Geneua Margine noteth making open profession of the Gospell And saithe Caluine In which wordes Luke praiseth his fortitude in professing the Gospell For among so manie hinderances hee durst neuer haue hissed had not his brest beene endewed with a rare constancie In the meane season all are prescribed what they ought to doo to witte euerie one according to the measure of his faithe For althoughe all bee not Paules neuerthelesse the faithe of Christe must breed so muche confidence in our mindes that when it is needfull for vs to speake we waxe not altogither dombe We must saithe Marlorate héere be alwaies readie to render a reason to all that aske it of the hope that is in vs. And is all this freenesse of Saint Paules teaching and example to all men without anye application c. that so mooued the aduersaries that they still went about to murther him Loe saithe Caluine for zeale furie Neither can it be otherwise then that superstition should be fierce cruell Indeed it beseemeth the godlie to be kindeled with an holie anger when they see the pure truthe of God to bee corrupted with false and naughtie opinions but so that they moderate their zeale that they determine nothing excepte the cause be throughlie viewed that they maye reduce them that erre into the waye Laste of all if they see their frowardnesse to bee paste hope yet maye not they snatche the sworde bicause they should knowe that reuengement is not of GOD committed vnto them And therefore Paule peaceablie auoydeth from them whome hee had thus prouoked by his earnest teaching c. Therefore
foorth their heartes shoulde fayle them And many other toward Laborers that on the Lordes calling were but late entred into this Haruest begin to stande in a mammering and drawe backe except a number of these our too forwarde brethren And therefore indéede we had néede on all handes without ceasing moste earnestly to pray to God to thrust foorth moe laborers into his haruest and to comfort them that be thrust in by him least both Laborers haruest all waxe thinner and more backwarde than it dooth Praie Praie Now vpon all these foresaid meanes our brethren make their conclusion saying And in the meane time till God shall blesse vs with a sufficient number of learned Pastors to take some extraordinary and temporall order for ouer-seeing the Churches that although they cannot be all sufficientlie enstructed and gouerned yet so many shall not be altogether destitute of all knowledge and spirituall gouernement as there are nowe in this moste corrupt state of the Churche in which wee haue hetherto continued These are very hard spéeches against the present state of the Churche of Englande and in truth by no meanes iustifiable that it is a moste corrupt state of the Church and so hath hetherto continued For if it be now in a most corrupt state then was it not more corrupt in the time of all the popish superstitions If wee nowe as our brethren in their Preface to this Learned discourse confesse maintaine the true and holie faith and haue the Gospell freely preached as in this learned discourse they also graunt are we so corrupt as when manifest errors in doctrine and faith were maintained and the preaching of the Gospell suppressed and persecuted And yet we debarre them not altogether of the title of the Church though a Church exceeding much corrupted Or doth the most corruption of the Church lie in matters or rather in formes of discipline Admitting we haue a discipline that were corrupted notwithstanding professing the holy truth in all pointes of faith and doctrine The Saxon Churches haue in some pointes the like discipline to that our brethren contend for and yet in some materiall pointes of the Lordes supper they hold as grosse if not farre grosser errors and corruption than doe the Papists And is our state being in that and all other pointes of doctrine most sincere more corrupt than theirs Which I speake not as insulting vpon them but with pitie and reuerence but onely to note our brethrens vnthankefull not acknowledging of our exceeding more sincere and farre better estate than theirs and manie others as the Grecians Armenians Indians Aethiopians c. which are yet acknowledged to be the the Churches of Christ albeit all differ in discipline and are not free from errors euen in doctrine which God be praised we are by our breth owne confession But why doe our Brethren thus exclaime on the estate of our Church as a most corrupt state Forsooth because as they saie and doe imagine there are many that are altogether destitute of all knowledge and spirituall gouernment If they meane Papists and wicked worldlings where are not some and that too many intermingled in the Church of GOD And so there may be many we graunt lamenting it among vs but not of vs. And the more I feare by reason of these garboyles among our selues But if they bée the children of God and the true Church indéede and haue yéeres of vnderstanding I hope nay I am sure there is none no not one such as is altogether destitute of all knowledge and spirituall gouernment set a side naturall Idiotes which are as infants and without discretion Nay not the most of the worldlie hypocrites are altogether destitute of all knowledge of God and of his word and of all partes of spirituall gouernment although they knowe not all pointes or manie pointes not so exactlie as other doe or as their selues should doe I speake not this to defende anie mannes default and corruption in these thinges but to shew that this is a greate deale more aggrauated than eyther needeth or is true or than our Brethren haue anie iust cause to accuse so hainouslie the whole state of the Church of England to bee a most corrupted state But sée nowe howe our malecontented Brethren finding such a grieuous fault of this most corrupt state of the Church though they might haue all these meanes that they haue heere deuised to reforme the same graunted vnto them yet are they faine in the end to confesse that this their Learned discourse of Ecclesiasticall gouernment cannot take place but that they must take some extraordinarie and temporall order for ouerseeing of the Churches in the meane time vntill GOD shall blesse vs with a sufficient number of learned pastors So that they cannot for all these meanes helpes prouisions supplyes desires or anie other thing that they are able with all their learned heads consulting together imagine howe their Ecclesiasticall regiment should be set vp And yet wée must first downe out of hande and awaye with that Ecclesiasticall regiment that we haue cre euer not onelie theyrs shall come in place but or euer wee haue or can yet deuise how wée shall deale in the meane time till GOD shall blesse vs with a sufficient number of learned pastors Which when this till and this sufficient number will be filled vp to our Brethrens contentation is not héere limited by them nor we are able to coniecture But coulde not our Brethren haue forséene this before which héere now after all their debating and deuising they beginne to sée and are driuen to confesse And how then must all Pastors that bee not learned preachers be presentlie turned out and no longer retayned Or if they may lawfullie for a time which with all when it shall stint is vncertaine continue still and bée retained how then are these thinges either true or tollerable in them Shall wee tollerate such notorious and most corrupt wickednesse as they crie out vpon till God shall blesse vs with a sufficient number of learned pastors And till GOD shall thus blesse vs what extraordinarie and temporall order of ouerseers of the Churches will God blesse if hee haue flatlie forbidden all other than that onelie order which our Brethren pretend that God so straightlie hath commanded Or what extraordinarie or temporall order can or dare anie or all the Church auouch or presume to take vpon them to appoint or tollerate anie time If the ouerseers that our Brethren vrge and the orders of Ecclesiasticall gouernment which they set downe bee of GOD commaunded for ordinarie and perpetuall to all ages and Churches either they woulde haue vs wilfullie to transgresse Gods commaundement without anie speciall warrant on presumption of their dispensation for a time or else they must néedes graunt and that is indéede the verie truth which they dare not for shame openlie confesse although of fine force they are constrayned
Ministerie especialy as they were thē in practise may be imploied otherwise both for the attendance on the Pastors in the Ministerie of the word and Sacraments and also to prepare themselues to become fit Pastors afterwards whereupon now and then as necessitie or occasion hath serued and they found to be méete thereto the Ministerie also of the word and Sacraments hath béene permitted vnto them in the auncient yea in the Primitiue Church and at the very time of their institution or immediatly after as appéereth both by Stephen and Philip by whome we may iudge the like of all the residue for Stephen so soone as euer he was chosen Deacon was set vpon with diuers aduersaries in matter of doctrine who disputed with Stephen but they were not able to resist the wisedome and the spirite by the which he spake Actes 6.10 Whereupon saith Gualter Et quamuis de publicis concionibus c. And although nothing be spoken of his publike Sermons notwithstanding it is euident by the context of the hystorie that he had these both often and effectuall and very serious Wherefore by the way and as it were by digression we may heere see that the Deacons of the Primitiue Church were not altogether estraunged from the ministerie of the word but although they were chiefelie occupied about the dispensation of the Churches goodes neuerthelesse they imployed their labour also so farre as they might in the other ministeries of the Church that by this meanes according to the sentence of S. Paule they might get vnto themselues a good degree 1. Tim. 3. what a notable Sermon he made and what a rare and singular gift of the spirit of God in his preaching he had the 7. Chapter at large witnesseth Aretius vpon the 3. verse of the properties that Peter required in these Deacons saith Fourthly he returneth againe to the vertues to wit such as are meete for them to haue Full of the holy Ghost That they should haue certayne most sure notes of the holy Ghost such as at that time were to speake with tongs that they had not learned to worke miracles in the name of Christ to teach boldly in this teaching to ouercome the enemies and such like Also Full of wisedome that is that they be prouident and warie least they cast pearles to any dogs or swine but teach them that are to be taught but chiefely prudence was necessary for the Ecclesiasticall dispensation whereunto they are to be called And on the 5. verse of Stephens disputation with his aduersaries which saith he was of the Christian doctrine he saith Stephen no doubt did execute faithfully and constantly the office of a Deacon no lesse then Lawrence did afterward vnder Sextus and Vincentius vnder Valerius who bestowed the treasures of the Church vpon the poore But vnto these do come new vertues first he is full of faith that is of feruencie in teaching that faith c. The like we reade in the eight Chapter following of Philip one of the same companie of Deacons whome Aretius calleth the Doctor of the Samaritanes secondly sayth he heereunto perteineth a singuler example of Philip who happily instructed the Samaritanes First heere may be considered who that Philip was for there haue beene that haue thought him to be the Apostle but two strong arguments are against them in the context first that the Apostles were not dispearsed but aboade at Ierusalem but Philip was among those that were dispearsed therefore it was not Philip the Apostle Moreouer the Apostles onely could giue the holy Ghost but Philip could not do it And heereupon Iohn Peter are sent to the Samaritanes wherefore it can not be Philip the Apostle it is therefore the Deacon of whome we spake before Chap. 6. And Gualter affirming also the same addeth further First he teacheth whose ministery God vsed in conuerting Samaria it was that Philip not he that was the Apostle but he that before was reckoned vp among the Deacons as the auncient writers of the Church do testify with one consent chiefely Epiphanius writing of Simon and of the Simoniacks for although the parts of the Deacons were to beare the care of the common goodes of the Church and of the poore notwithstanding it was withall permitted vnto them to take on them the preaching of the Gospell if at any time necessity so required the which we haue hitherto seene in Stephens example And perhaps there was not so great vse of Deacons at Ierusalem when the Church was dispersed with the tempest of persecution and therefore they which before dispensed the publike goods of the Church gaue themselues wholy to the ministery of the word Yea and Paule admonished afterward that the Deacons by ministring well should get vnto themselues a degree vnto a greater function 1. Tim. 3. And as the ministration of the Sacraments followeth the preaching of the word so Philip baptized those whome he had by his preaching conuerted Neither is it noted that they did these things by reason of any other office annexed vnto them but as Gualter noteth verie well that in generally as they had gifts competent and occasion conuenient it was not impertinent to their office of Deaconship so to imploy themselues Whereupon also the Magdeburgenses note Centuria 1. lib. 2. cap. 7. pag. 508. saying Other were Deacons The office of these was to minister to the Table at Ierusalem so long as the community of goods was there Acts. 6. but neuerthelesse that they also taught and shewed foorth signes appeareth out of Stephen Actes 6. and Philip Actes 8.21 and euery where in other Churches it was the office of the Deacons to teach and to minister And the same Magdeburgenses in the title Deratione acforma gubernationis pag. 510. do say These were the works in common of the Apostles and Prophetes Pastors Doctors Priestes Deacons They taught the Church purely and sincerely concerning euery of the head points of the christian doctrine c. and that Deacons also taught appeareth out of the 6. and 8. of the Actes they interpreted the holy Scriptures c. they deliuered the Catechisme c. they did cut the word of truth rightly into the Law and the Gospell c. they vsed the forme of sound words in teaching c. they vsed also in teaching a simple kind of speech c. they studied to keepe the puritie of doctrine c. they opposed themselues sharply against false teachers and Hereticks and confuted their false opinions For Stephen Act. 6. confuted them that were in the synagog of the Libertines c. they preached repentance that is they reproued and blamed sinners for the Apostles Act. 2.3 and 4. did openly obiect vnto the Iewes this sinne and for the same reproue them that they had killed Iesus of Nazareth the iust and holy one the sonne of God and the Messias and Stephen Actes 7. calleth them murtherers and betrayers of
for we receiue not Philip for a Christian Emperour and long time after there were Christian Emperours euen as long as any puritie continued in Religion vntill both Emperours and Synodes were thrust out of all lawfull authoritie which they ought to haue in the Church by the tyranny of Antichriste I graunt the Synodall authoritie to bee graunted to the church by our Sauiour Christe to be practized by his Apostles and to bee continued by their successors three hundred yeares not before there were any Christian Emperours but before there were any such Christian Emperors as onelie proclaimed the maintenaunce and profession of the Christian faith as Constantine his successors did For Constantius Chlorus the Father of this Constantine the great is commended by Eusebius lib. 8. cap. 14. in these wordes Not long after Constantius the Emperor passing all others throughout his life in clemencie and goodnesse towardes his subiectes singularly affected towardes Gods worde ended according to the Lawe of nature the common race of his mortall life Leauing behinde him his naturall sonne Constantinus Emperour and Caesar to supplie his room And was first related of them meaning the Heathen into the number of the Gods Enioying after his death all imperiall honor and dignitie due to his person In his life hee was moste benigne and of most bountifull soueraignty among all the Emperours who alone of all the Emperors in our time gouerned most gratiously and honourablie during the whole tearme of his reigne shewing humanity and bountifulnesse vnto all men no partaker by anie meanes with any presumptuous sedition raysed agaynst vs hee garded the Godly about him in securitie without sentence of gilt and without all contumelye hee destroyed no Churches hee practized no impietye that mighte bee preiudiciall to oure Religion He obtayned a blessed life and an end thrise happy He being Emperour alone ended this life both gloriously and peaceably in the presence of his naturall sonne and successour who also was moste prudent and Religious His Sonne Constantinus beeing proclaymed full Emperour and Caesar by the armie and long before by God him selfe the vniuersall King became a follower of his Fathers pietie in Christian religion All this his commendation writeth Eusebius who was also liuing in his dayes And to confirme this he telleth also lib. 1. De vita Constantini cap. 11 Howe he fayned that he woulde put all the Christians which would professe their religion out of their offices and preferre the Paganes But when they which were Godlie Christians gaue vp their offices and chose rather to leaue their honors then to leaue their profession of the Christian fayth hee embrased them and those which offered to deny Christe to kéepe their dignities hee vtterly remooued from his person affirming that they woulde neuer be faithfull to the Prince which were vnfaithfull to God Whereby it appeareth that he was a true and Godly Christian Emperor Whereupon Eusebius concludeth that not onely he himself but his subiects also did enioy by him a pleasaunt conuersation in holinesse and deuotion towardes God Hee banished out of his Court Idolaters and dissemblers in religion and hee receiued and iudged those moste worthie to bee about an Emperour which confessed Gods trueth commaunding such to haue the guard both of his person and Dominion Hee serued and worshipped the onely true God Hee condemned the multitude of the Gods that the wicked had Hee fortified his house with the prayers of holy and faythfull men and hee did so consecrate his pallace to the seruice of God that his housholde was a congregation within his pallace hauing Gods Ministers and whatsoeuer is requisite for a Christian Congregation And although our Brethren peremptorily doe say wee receyue not Philip for a Christian Emperour yet wee haue hearde howe Eusebius telleth that though at the first hee was not of the Church of Christe so receyued by reason of his notorious sinnes neuerthelesse on his repentaunce and confession hee was at length receyued into the assemblie of the Christians at Rome euen as a Christian and of consequent as a Christian Emperour except the Christians woulde haue denied him to bee Emperour because hee was become a Christian. In-déede hée coulde not such was the iniquitie of the time then make open profession of his Christianitie or if he began it he was too soone cut off But this impediment was no debarre vnto his right if hee had had such time and occasion as had Constantine But had there bene no Christian Emperors before Constantine the great yet were there in other Countries mo Christian Princes besides those that were the Emperours of Rome yea to goe no further than this our owne Countrie was not here King Lucius a Christian besides other Christian Princes after him To which Lucius also as wee finde in aunciâ—nt recordâ— thereof a letter was written by Eleutherius Bishop of Rome anno Dom. 202. in these wordes following You required that we should sende you the Romane and Emperiall lawes that you might vse them in your kingdome of Brytannie But those lawes we may disprooue and not the lawes of God You haue of late through the goodnesse of GOD receaued in your kingdome the fayth and lawe of Christe you haue there in your kingdome both the Testamentes out of them by the grace of God and the aduice of your Realme take you a lawe and thereby Gouerne patiently your kingdome You are in your kingdome the Vicar of God according to the saying of the kingly Prophet The earth is the Lordes and his fulnesse is the whole worlde and all the dwellers therein And againe thou hast loued righteousnesse and hated iniquitie wherefore GOD euen thy God hath annoynted thee with the oyle of gladnesse abâ—ue thy fellowes They are the kinges children Christian Nations and people of your kingdome that liue and consist vnder your protection peace and kingdome according to the scripture euâ—n as the Henne gathereth her chickensvnder her winges The people and Nations of the kingdome of Brytannie is yours Such as are deuided you shoulde gather them together vnto the lawes of Christe vnto his holie â—hurch vnto peace and concorde And you should cherish mayntaine protect gouerne and defend them from the iniurious from the malitious and from the enemies of them VVoe to that kingdome whose king as a chilâ—e and the Princes eaâ—e early in the mourning I do not call the king a child for his youth and minoritie but for his follie iniquitie and madnesse according to the kingly Prophet the bloudthirstie and deceitfull men shall not liue out halfe their dayes By eating we shall vnderstande gluttonie by gluttonie luxurie by luxurie all silth wickednesse and mischiefe as sayth king Salomon wisdome will not enter into a malitious soule nor inhabite in a bodie thrall to sinne A King hath his name of gouerning and not of his kingdome So long shall you be a King as you rule well Otherwise you shall not so be
not to prescribe vnto them all alike some ceremoniall constitutions neyther was the difference of their strengths or weakenesse in their conuersion to Christ any breach or let to the vniformitie of their obseruing the same But by this reason of our brethren there could be no vniformitie of ceremonies not only then with them or now with vs in all places of the Church and land of England but in no place in all the whole world for where is the whole land or church wholy conuerted to Christ if they say that by these words not wholy conuerted they meane not all nor the greatest part but that some be not conuerted to Christ then they confute their owne reason in that the weakenesse of the lesser part ought to be no preiudice to the making of vniforme ceremonies vnto the greatest part for the law considereth rather the vniuersall multitude than euery particular party and so confessing that our land God be praysed for it is for the greatest part conuerted though not wholy conuerted in respect of euery person yet as the greatest part is commonly called by the name of the whole it may be well said also to be wholy conuerted But what meane they hereby that our land is not yet wholy coÌ„uerted to Christ they haue coÌ„fessed in their preface vnto this learned discourse that for the substaÌ„ce of religion it is now publikely mainteined for our true holy faith If any be not yet coÌ„uerted vnto the whole truth thereof how doth not this argumeÌ„t make the more for vniformity in these ceremoniall constit were it the easlier to win theÌ„ if by any meanes they may be woon by kéeping an vnforme order in those ceremoniall constitutions that are neyther ill of themselues and are but ordeyned to these good ends that order and comelinesse be reteyned shall we rather winne and conuert them to Christ both by reiecting all vniformitie in those ceremoniall constitutions that both they and we agrée vpon to be good and lawfull and also by reiecting all vniformitie in any other that may be deuised Yea by this their rule we should kéepe no vniformitie in any of those ceremoniall constitutions that they their selues set foorth vnto vs or is it lawfull for them to presse their Ceremonies vpon vs to be obserued with vniformitie and is it not more lawfull for vs hauing the law with vs to do the like to them so long as we vrge none nor otherwise than seruing to order and to comelinesse if ours séeme not so to them no more do theirs séeme so to vs and we hope and thanke God that we are also euen the greatest part and therefore may be called the whole that are we trust wholy conuerted to Christ wholie I meane for substance of Religion though in measure of faith and conuersation of life there is none of vs all nor yet of our Brethren so wholy conuerted but that the best of vs all come short and oftentimes diuert from Christ and must still be fayne to cry to Christ Conuerte me domine conuertar Conuert me Lord and I shall be wholy conuerted But will vniformitie in those Ceremonies that are giuen to helpe and strengthen our weakenesse hinder our Conuersion vnto Christ yea rather how will they not greatly further it But now if we be not so wholy conuerted to Christ as we ought to be although I confesse negligence may be some part too great a part the cause thereof yet I feare me our Brethrens too double diligence in disturbing the concord of the Preachers and euen in this reiecting of vniformity in these ceremoniall constitutions giuing liberty not only to euery Synode of themselues but also to theÌ„selues in these their discourses without any Synode and without yea against the authority of the ciuill christian Magistrate and much more without yea against the whole state of the Church in this our laÌ„d yea giuing liberty to euery particular church and withall by these their reasons to euery priuate person according as he or she is weake or strong to admit or reiect all vniformitie to alter and innouate as they fancy all such Lawes and constitutions of ceremoniall rites orders as are by a lawfull godly Synode of the Church decréed by the authority of the ciuill christian magistrate confirmed established proclaimed to be vniuersally among vs vniformely obserued These sayings doings of our Brethren their selues haue bin if not the chiefest yet not the least cause that not onely our land is not so wholy conuerted to Christ as it might otherwise haue béene but that so many are wholy auerted froÌ„ Christ and become peruerted renegates apostataes vnto Antichrist that before these sturres betwéen our brethren vs began were very wel coÌ„ming on by little little so far as man can iudge or hope by outwarde signes might haue béene throughly wonne and wholly conuerted to Christ or might yet in the vnsearchable riches of gods mercies be reclaimed and reconuerted But firmum flat fundamentum Deus nouit qui sunt sui If they be none of Gods elected exiâ—runt e nobis non fuerunt ex nobis they went from among vs they were none of vs. But nowe to our Brethrens conclusion that they gather on these premisses Therfore it were meete that the Ouerseers and Elders of the Church shoulde come together to consider of this matter what orders were most meete for diuerse places to bring them to the obedience of Christ what for the furtherance of them that are newly come and what for the continuance and encrease of them that are verie well come on Here still the soueraigne Prince or ciuill Christian Magistrate is eyther cleane forgotten or of purpose reiected as hauing no stroake at all in these matters except they wil include the Prince in one of these termes the Ouerseers and Elders of the Church But they haue before restrayned those titles to the Pastors and to those Elders whoÌ„ they call the Gouernors and distinguishing the Prince from them they call him the ciuill Christian Magistrate But now what orders when they come together to consider of this matter can these Ouer-seers and Elders deuise that shal be most meete for diuerse places if they coÌ„sider not on this withall that if not in al places yet at the least in all those diuerse places they should be vniformely kept For to kéepe diuersitie or to kéepe them diuersely in those diuerse places what is it else than to be bounde in no places to no orders at all Will they not yet at least wise haue those orders that shal be deuised for the furderance of them that are newly come to be vniformely kept among all them that be such persons in all or diuerse places And likewise those orders that should be deuised for the continuance and encrease of them that are verie well come on to be kept also
the present age when they conclude thus that they either desire this or the like forme to be receiued Can this present age or doo theirselues in this preset discourse see the vttermost of these indefinit desires of the like till they shall further open it or till experieÌ„ce the mistresse of fooles shall reueale it They saie that the reformation which they desire hitherto for lacke of such a publike testimoniall meaning as this learned discourse hath beene subiect to infinit sclanders deuised by the aduersaries of Gods truth and hinderance of godlie proceedings vnto reformation If our brethren haue cause to take offense for sclanders as they say deuised against their reformation doo they not see here what a foule and intollerable sclander they cast vpon all the professors of the Gospell that are not of their opinion in this their deuised reformation to terme vs the aduersaries of Gods truth that fauor the truth of God as much by the grace of God euen for their liues as they Are we not their brethren in the profession of the Gospell Haue they not confessed that in substance of religion we agree and it is resolued publikelie mainteined for our true and holie faith Were we thus professors of Gods truth in the preface of this learned discourse andare we now in the peroration of the same the aduersaries of gods truth Indéed in the verie first title to the booke of this forme discoursed vpon they began roughlie and set it out to serue for a iust apologie as they said against the false accusations sclanders of their aduersaries there also they mentioned sclanders and false accusations and called vs aduersaries All which were heauie words and a rough beginning of such as are or should be brethren It was but malum omen to stumble on such foule terms at the verie threshold it did prognosticat we should haue some storms and so we haue had indéed in passing through this learned discourse and yet this is but a mild booke in comparison of manie other of theirs albeit our brethren haue not béene verie meale mouthed but haue vsed verie brode language God wot and all the world maie see too vnséemelie for ministers faithfull ministers learned discourses against their brethren in Christ for no greater matters than these are But we haue borne them off with head and shoulders as well and with as much pacience forbearance as we mought saue that we haue turned againe now and then for our necessarie defense and laid I trust in modestie before our bretheren onelie how ill they haue doone therein and how the most of the same sclanders were such stones cast as could rebound But now when we haue got out of the whole plotforme and building of this learned discourse bearing off all the blowes taunts in the seuerall lodgings of all these new Eccl. officers and thought now on the backside of this building all had béene past and doone naie soft we shall haue like farewell to our hansell yea where we were called before but their aduersaries we shall now be driuen out with another maner of peale as not onlie hinderances of their proceedings to reformation but to all the present age that the posteritie maie know it too as a perpetuall blot of infamie we are now hissed out cried out vpoâ— not for their aduersaries onlie but for the aduersaries of gods truth they complaine of our false accusations and infinit sclanders to let go all their other complaints on vs this one is vnum prâ—mille To whom shall we complaine of this so apparant vntrue and withall so hainous an accusation made on vs It deserueth indéede for the indignitie thereof to haue shaken our garment with silence as cléere therefrom to haue gone our way But because it toucheth God his truth in which case we maie yet at least returne saie with Christ our sauiour ego daemonium non habeo we are not the aduersaries of Gods truth It is vntrulie and vnbrotherlie spoken neither toucheth it vs alone but all the holie and ancient fathers in the primitiue church whom we haue plainlie shewed to be of the same opinion in all or the greatest of these coÌ„trouersies that we defend in our own daies present age it spotteth the fresh memorie of our late godlie fathers Cranmer Latimer Ridley Hooper Ferrar Philpot c. all blessed martyrs and all that consented vnto them and diuers reuerend godlie Confessors of later memorie as Bishop Iuell Horne Pilkinton Grindall Cox Bentham Parkhurst and others which were all notablie known both on this side and beyond the seas to be great professors of gods truth and no lesse earnest impugners of the aduersaries of the truth of God And albeit they liked not these desires and deuises of our brethreÌ„s forms of reformation yet for their great learning and sinceritie in the gospell the most notable men of late in the reformed churches beyond the seas doe highlie honor them and thinke and speake well of them giuing full testimonie of their liking Yea both Bucer and Peter Martir two chéefe lights and pillers of Gods church in these our last daies forsooke their owne countries and all other reformed churches liued vnder the forme of reformation of this our English church with all due reuerence both to the state than being to the bishops then liuing without any impugning or defacing of theÌ„ Yea Caluine himselfe as we haue shewed alloweth well both of the ancient bishops and Archbishops before the tyrannie and eâ—rors of the pope began and of the bishops of these daies to continue still in their bishopriks so they be professors of Gods truth and not aduersaries to it How vnaduisedlie then is this spoken of our brethren and how reprochfullie to call our Bishops and all vs that ioine with them the aduersaries of Gods truth Could they bestow any fouler terme vpon the rankest of al the Papists or vpon the Pope himselfe For they indéed are the aduersaries of Gods truth And so S. Paule saith 2. Thes. 2. of that man of sin son of perdition which is an aduersarie and exalteth himselfe against all that is called God And this terme as a parting blow for a token of remembrance our bretheren vouchsafe to giue our bishops vs to be the aduersaries of Gods truth this is too too bitter zeale Mors in olla there is Coloquintida in this pot that boils ouer such froth Gods truth is not in this accusation no brootherhood of Christ no linke of loue no bond of peace no bowels of mercie no affection of compassion but all of passion in this too blacke Rhethorike But it sufficeth vs to cleare our selues GOD forgiue it our bretheren and wée doe And whereas withall they burthen our Bishops and vs that we are an hinderance of godlie proceedings vnto reformation this is another great vntruth and sclander These procéedings indéed of our bretheren our Bishops and
could haue so neglected For who were these godly fathers And how long haue they neglected this forme of our Brethren if at least they euer knewe or heard or dreamed of this or any such forme like to this Verily euen all the godly fathers that haue beene in any age from the time of Christes being here on the earth euen downe till our time are these our godly Fathers And this is no smal preiudice to these sonnes that woulde nowe thrust these thinges vpon vs and accuse all our godly Fathers in neglecting their duetie rather than they woulde leaue their contradiction against eyther vs their Brethren or against their prince and Magistrates or against their and our godly Fathers of any ages passed heeretofore that they might leaue behinde them as a perpetuall publike testimoniall to their and our children and to all posterity an example of their contradictions and contentions And thus with this good report of our godly Fathers and with this good publike testimoniall to the posterity of the age present and with this carefull example for our children to bee nourished vp in his contradiction and to deliuer it as their inheritaunce to their children and childrens children while the worlde continueth after them they breake off and ende all this Learned Discourse and with this charitable affection and quiet mind to vs and to our forme of Ecclesiasticall gouernment established they conclude yet a greate deale better with a finall wish and as it were a prayer to God Wherein so farre as the same tendeth to the glorie of God to the more manifest reuealing of his trueth heerein to the acknowledgement of our sinnes and imperfections to the humble and heartie begging of his mercie grace consolation and vnitie of his holy spirite not to the confirming of the forme that they haue here prescribed nor to the defacing of the forme of Eccl. gouernment alreadie in this his Church established we ioyntly say with them and craue of them also to repete their owne wordes and to say with vs and all of vs altogether with heart and voice The Lorde graunt for Christes sake that wee beeing all of vs so farre from anie perfection in this moâ—tall life but rather as the holie Apostle sayth 6. Hebr. being ledde forwardes towardes that according to the commaundement of our Master Iesus Christ we may be perfect as our heauenly father is perfect God may open all our eyes to see the same and not be blinded in our owne conceits and bend our harts earnestly to labour to attaine thereunto by all such godly and lawefull meanes as is aunswerable to our vocations And in the meane time so farre as wee haue attayned to be thankefull to God for the same and vnder him to all them whome hee hath made the instrumentes whereby wee haue attayned thereunto And not to bee weariâ— thereof and seeke innouations but with all constant alacritie of going forwarde both in synceritie of true religion and in sanctification of our liues and in due obedience to our most gratious Soueraigne and vnder her Maiestie to all our Ecclesiast ouerseers and ciuill Magistrates and to all the godly lawes Eccl. or politicall of this our Church and Realme of Englande that we may proceede all by one rule that we may be all like affectioned to seeke the glorie of God and the peace of his Church and to builde vp the ruines of his temple and not to hinder the building by controlling or defacing the builders thereof by vnnecessarie contradictions and by deuising of newe platformes but that with one heart and with one voice we may prayse the father of our Lorde Iesus Christe in his holie temple which is the congregation of Saintes in the holy Ghoste and prayse the sonne also which is the same our Lorde and Sauiour Iesus Christ and together with the Father and the sonne praie the holy ghost the comforter to leade vs into all truth and to sanctifie both our soules and bodies with all holinesse and righteousnesse according to the rich and plentifull measure of his grace in this life transitorie and to glorifie vs in his life eternall All which and all those other thinges whatsoeuer his blessed will and heauenly wisedome seeth most requisite for his glory for our saluation and for the ceasing of these contradictions that wee may be all truly vnited vnto him and in him be reunited one to another he of his infinite mercie vouchsafe to graunt To whom thrée persons and one Almightie God the king euerlasting immortall inuisible and God wise onely be all honour and glorie all dominion and power all prayse and thankesgiuing both nowe for euer and for euermore And so vnto this our Brethrens prayer thus a little and I hope without offence augmented I beseech them and all our other Brethren and sisters in Iesus Christe let vs all take withall vppon vs the good Clerkes parte and ioyne in the closure by vnfeynedly pronouncing the Amen Amen good Lorde according to thy good will Amen So be it Faultes escaped Pagina 19 line 17 Read these 158 l. 14 to 163 l. 42 them â—98 l. 11 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 227 l. 26 of 239 l. 11 sacrificer 244 l. 38 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 243 l. 2 vnlearned 256 l. 38 is 258 l. 12 imposed 268 l. 11 your 276 in margin antiquitie 277 l 41 praefectum 284 l. 13 likely â—0 l. 31 represse ib. is it 293 l 36 ingendred 305 in marg dele of Ieromes 323 l. 41 returned to 332 in marg not Euangelistes 341 l. 5 it 346 l. 20 dele not 347 l. 16 not 348 l. 3 no long 364 l. 37 greater 368 l. 7 ordaine 378 l. 27 so foorth 389 l. 13 sith 405 l 37◠〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 40â— in marg forbiddeth not ib. l. 39 dele from 419 l. 6 confused 427 l. 29 Theoctistus l. 31 dele Bishop l. 33 twentith 428 l. 36 yea 432 in marg praefatus est 433 l. 27 28 superintendents 441 l. 2 pontifex are yet he 444 l. 6 dele the. 451 marg Math. â—3 454 l. 16 17 If there had beene no primacie there had beene no loue of it for Ignoti nullâ— cupidopunc 457 l. 3 Collegues 467 l. 18 member 473 l. 11 as farre ib. l. 36 that he 505 l. 40 haled 526 l. 22 expell 534 l. 21 suffice 541 l. 36 seale 568 l. 15 as 569 l. 15 that 571 l. 16 or 575 l. 42 principles 610 l. 12 so 611 l. 27. concent 612 l. 24 the. 633 l. 34 wee 665 l. 25 no. 681 l. 32 representeth 694 l. 21 that 703 l. 13 shee 704 l. 10 is not 711 l. 30 Batilidis 721 l. 15 with 726 l. 8 no superiour 728 l. 40 of his 732 l. 2 virilis 740 l. 36 the. 742 l. 5 Alexandra 749 l. 41 powers 759 l. 19 he 784 l. 39 which is 797 l. 28 or 812 l. 32 eâ—conuerso 820 l. 29 with 826 l. 37 dele not 827 l. 6 confusion 829