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A01747 A treatise concerning the trinitie of persons in vnitie of the deitie Written to Thomas Mannering an Anabaptist, who denyed that Iesus is very God of very God: but man onely, yet endued with the infinite power of God. Gill, Alexander, 1565-1635. 1601 (1601) STC 11879; ESTC S118376 22,851 81

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And wee see that in these things where a bare faith without knowledge might seeme to be most required because as a man would thinke there were no reason to be giuen of them namely concerning the maintenance of this life and the resurrection to the life to come both Christ and his Apostles vse no other reasons but such as euery reasonable man may easily be perswaded by though authorities of Scripture were not wanting to both purposes as it is manifest Mat. 6. and 1. Cor 15. yea Paul at Athens or wheresoeuer he perswaded the worship of the true God among the Gentiles hee perswaded not by authority of Scripture which amongst thē had bene very weake but by such argumēts as they knew to be sufficient euē in thēselues If these things were not so how thē could the Gentiles which knew not the Scriptures he without excuse for their ignorance of God Therefore I conclude that there is nothing which is beleeued but it may also be knowen Now knowledge we know is ingendred by such principles as haue truth in thē the which is euident of it selfe So that by plaine and reasonable vnderstanding a man may knowe whatsoeuer he beleeueth You wil say To what purpose then serue the Scriptures I answere That God infinite in goodnesse hath together with this vnderstanding light of Nature giuen vs withall his word as a greater light whereby our lesser lights might become more shining That he hath giuen vnto vs not only an inward word to wit our natural vnderstanding but also an outward worde as a most illustrious Commētary both of declaration and amplification of that text whereby we may the better vnderstand whatsoeuer wee ought to vnderstand without it But how thē commeth it to passe that all men haue not Faith And how is Faith sayd to bee the gift of God The first is answered Rom. 1 21. and Ephe. 4. 18 For hardnes of their heart who when they knew God did not glorifie him as they ought therefore their imaginations became vaine their foolish heart was ful of darkenes And for this cause is Faith also sayd to bee the gift of God First in respect of that knowledge whence it doeth proceede which knowledge is his gift Secondly because it is the onely worke of God to make that knowledge to become fruitful by laying it so vnto mans heart that the hardnesse thereof may bee remoued that when wee know God to bee good and iust we also beleeue and worship him as we ought Thirdly and most especially because that God oftentimes pardoning the ignorance which men haue of himselfe and the creature doth so illumine the heart with 〈◊〉 holy Spirit that it is suddenly 〈◊〉 without any previant knowledge to faith and obedience The trueth whereof neuertheles doth not any whit impugne that which I say That God hath giuen vnto euery man so much vnderstanding as to know what he ought to beleeue and to bee satisfied for the reasons of his Fayth if he could open his eyes to see in the middest of what wonderous light hee were placed This point is manifest both by many Scripture-authorities and by many reasons which I omit But taking this as either granted or sufficiently prooued that God hath giuen vs light of vnderstanding whereby to yeeld a reason of the Hope that is in vs a reason I say euen of euery article of our Faith let vs with holy reuerence come vnto the thing in question and see what reason wee haue for our defence I will therefore a while forbeare to vse the authoritie of holy Scripture not that I esteeme the waight or euidence of any reason comparable thereto but onely perceiuing by that talke I had with you that you had read the Scripture as one of those whom Peter noteth 2. Epist 3. 16. Not intending to wrangle about your wrested interpretations I wil first propone the euidence of reasonable proofe and afterwards bring in the assent of holy Scripture that you may perceiue in what wondrous cleare light you striue to be blinde And because I know not what your opinion is concerning God for he that denieth the Godhead of Christ may as well denie the Godhead absolutely that beeing one steppe toward the question I will proceed orderly and giue you also a reason of our faith concerning that matter taking this onely as granted which is rife in euery mans knowledge that both the termes of Contradiction cannot bee affirmed of the same Subiect that is that one and the same thing cannot be both affirmed and denied of the same Subiect at one time and in the same respect But first by the Name of God know that I meane an Eternall Being infinite in goodnesse in power in wisedome in glory in vertue and onely worthie of endlesse loue and honour My reason is thus If there be not a Being which had no beginning then of necessitie that which was first existent or begunne must be a beginning vnto it selfe by causing of it selfe to be when it was not But this is impossible that any thing should bee a cause and not bee for so should it both bee and not be therefore there is an eternall Being which is the beginning middle and ende of all things and himselfe without beginning and this eternall Beeing wee call God My reason is plaine to bee vnderstood and remember what I haue said that I may goe on Whatsoeuer is without beginning is also without ending because it hath no Superiour which might bring it to nothing therefore God is eternall Againe whatsoeuer comes to nothing is corrupted by his contrary but nothing can be opposite to God therefore hee is Eternall Or else I might thus reason Being and Not Being are such contraries as one of them cannot spring out of another for euery thing for the preseruations sake of it selfe doth represse and corrupt the contrary Seing then that there is Beeing which could not possibly raise it selfe out of Not Being it followes that Being had a primacy or prioritie before Not Beeing and therefore of necessitie must be eternall for otherwise there was a time wherein it might be said that Being is Not Being so Not Being should haue been first and contradictories might haue stood together but both these are impossible therefore there is an eternall Being and this eternall Being wee call God Furthermore wee know that the greatest excellencie or perfection of euery thing is in the proximitie or approch thereof vnto the first cause But euery thing is more excellent in the Being thereof then in the Not Being therefore Beeing was before Not Being and for that cause Eternall Now Eternitie is an Infinite Continuance therefore whatsoeuer is Eternall must of necessitie be Infinite and this Infinite Being we call God Moreouer whatsoeuer hath Infinite continuance hath Infinite Power to continue infinitely and this omnipotent or endlesse Power we call God I might reason likewise of his Goodnes of his Wisedome Trueth Glory c. but one
of a Beginning stand thus It is either Principium principians non principiatum that is a beginning which is a Beginner vnto another yet hath not his beginning from another lest there should be a processe into Infinitie a parte ante this is God the Father to whom it is peculiar to beget the Sonne yet is himselfe neyther made nor created nor begotten of any other Secondly there is Principium principiatum principians to witte a Beginning which hath his beginning of another and is also a beginning to another lest there should be any defect or imbecillitie in the Beginning and this is the Euerlasting Sonne very God of very God begotten of the substance of his Father alone before thē worlds neither made nor created Thirdly there is Principium principiatum non principians that is a Beginning which is also begun but is not a beginner vnto another lest there should be a processe into Infinitie a parte post and this is the Holy Ghost who proceedeth from the very substance and Being of the Father and the Sonne and is with them one GOD coeternall and coequall But you will say Is not the Holy Ghost a Beginner vnto any other how is he then the Authour of our consolation and how is hee said to leade vs into all trueth c Vnderstand what I meane Hee is not a Beginner vnto any other of the same Infinite Essence or Being with himselfe For the beginnings which I spake of before are in the Essence of God alone now our spiritual consolation whereof the Holy Ghost is said to be the Beginner is but an or effluence from that Being which he himselfe is as the light of the Sunne doth illuminate euery bright body exposed to his light and yet imparteth not his being thereto You will againe obiect that Eternitie hath no beginning nor ending how then can Christ be both eternall and begun and how againe can he be equall to the Father whereas hee beeing begotten of the Father the Father hath a prioritie before him I answere that this beginning is none other then that production or begetting which I before declared to haue been heretofore none other then it is now and shall be eternally as the Sunne hath brought forth light since his creation and shall still bring forth light till the worlds dissolution For this action of GOD whereby hee begetteth his Sonne is not a transeant action to cause a passion in the subiect and a repassion in the agent for in such the subiect of necessitie should haue been existent before the action but this action is immanent and therefore of necessitie of the same nature with the agent which agent because it is eternall therefore the production is also eternal and consequently the product and so of necessitie very GOD. But you must euer remember what difference I made betweene the action of God infinite in power therefore able to actuate the obiect and the immanent actions of our minde Now for the Prioritie or Posterioritie you may obiect I graunt there is Prioritie among the persons of the Godhead but of what kinde not of Being for their Essence is one and therein is none afore or after another neither is any one of the Trinitie more or lesse God then another not of time for they are all one Eternitie not of dignitie for they are all one Infinitie and the Sonne himselfe being very God thinketh it no robberie to bee equall with God But yet there is Prioritie and that of order onely for the Father is in order before the Sonne because the Sonne is begotten of the Father and the Sonne likewise is before the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost is the mutuall loue betweene the Father and the Sonne and so proceeding from them both I will make a comparison vnmeet for the matter of which I speake for to whom shall wee assimulate the Highest but yet meete to helpe your vnderstanding When a man doth dreame and imagine things which are not there is you know the phantasie the phantasme or thing imagined or dreamed and the phansying or working of the phantasie about that obiect Now these three are all of one nature and are one after another onely in order and not in time For the particular phantasie of such an obiect is before the obiect and makes it to haue an intentionall being then the obiect being the discourse of the phantasie followeth in order which neuerthelesse was in time as soone as it obseruing euer the cautions that are to bee obserued Thus haue I very briefly showne not many reasons but rather how that many reasons may bee showen for this Christian assertion yet haue I showen ynough to perswade any reasonable man to yeelde meekely vnto the trueth of that doctrine which is so euident both in the booke of GOD and in euerie faithfull and true Christian mans confession and according to that discourse which is euident to euery mans vnderstanding Now giue me leaue to speake a little to those arguments which haue throwen the most learned of the Iewes head-long to the feet of Christ to make thē acknowledge that the Messiab must be both God and man I will not herein doe any thing contrary to that which in the beginning I protested that is not to compel you by authoritie of Scripture but to intreate you by reasonable perswasion to encline your eare to the trueth But because I may not without iniurie to the cause leaue altogether out such manifest proofe and without iniurie also to your selfe who might thinke that I went about to sophisticate a true seeming vntrueth which would not abide the touch I will onely intend my finger to some very few of many thousandes of axiomes of the Scripture for this purpose leaue you to make the conclusion by your selfe hoping that the Iewes example may prouoke you to follow them so farre forth as they haue followed the trueth Exod. 13. 21 it is said The Lord went before thē c. Chap. 14. 19. The Angel of God which went before them remoued where Christ the Angell of the Couenant is called The Lord Iehouah Againe Exod. 15. 3. The Lorde is a man of warre his name is Iehouah therefore Christ is God and man who by his conflict vpon the crosse triumphed ouer Death and Hell as it is written in the Gospell the booke of the warres of the Lord. Againe Esay 9. 6. Vnto vs a childe is borne there is his Manhood and vnto vs a Sonne is given and they shall call his name The mightie God And Esay 35. vers 4. Your God will come and saue you Ierem. 23. 5. c. I will rayse vp vnto Dauid a righteous branch and a King shal raigne and this is the Name whereby they shall call him The Lord our righteousnesse And Ierem. 33. vers 16. Iudah shall be saued and be that shall saue her is the Lorde our righteousnesse Where the name vsed is that great Name 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Iehouah