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A32898	An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1698 (1698)	Wing C396; ESTC R21826	31,372	63

But that all Men as well as those called Quakers are as Men liable to err if they forsake the Conduct of that Eternal Uunchangeable Uunerring Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and is able to preserve out of all Error which these Men our Opposers slights and reviles 3. Cursed pretence to Divine Inspiration the strongest Hold of the Devil Answ Let him keep his cursed Pretence to himself Divine Inspiration we experience the Inspiration of the Almighty with the Effects thereof blessed be God according to Scripture To call which the strongest Hold of the Devil is not only a Lye but Blasphemy 4. Who knew all this Story 23 Years ago and should have disclaimed the Actors but did not c. Answ All the Story of H. W's as in his Book was never known before written nor could be because many things therein inserted were not true being Stuff added to amuse the Reader and abuse the Quakers It 's evident before that what was to be disclaimed was then done and in Testimony thereof tho' it discover his Enmity and Contradictions he has made some Acknowledgment in Page 24. viz. Some Friends who at the first Assizes persuaded the Women to do him Right by Confessing c. Next I shall repeat a whole heap of Lyes and Slanders which as he says he takes out of what he calls A further Essay by a learned peaceable compassionate Friend of ours wherein he saith He proves c. But I say Is not yet proved nor can be 5. From their many Impertinences and Nonsence in their Books which cannot without Blasphemy be attributed to the Holy Spirit 6. From the many flat Contradictions of one inspired Pretender unto another especially their Women 7. Their scurrilous Railing at their best Opposers 8. Their apparent Contradictions to plain Scripture 9. Miserable Perversions and gross Misinterpretations of Scripture 10. Their Noval Opinions not heard of before in the Church of Christ 11. The allowed Novelty of their Sect having no pretence to Succession 12. Their many Doctrines calculated to serve Popery instanced in Nine Heads of Doctrine wherein they agree with Papists against Scripture 13. Notorious Possessions and Witchcrafts 14. Many gross Blasphemies uttered by those so Inspired 15. VVallowing in gross unnatural Sins 16. VVild Attempts of long Fasting and Miracles 17. Contradiction to all other good Christians All which before-said I take out of less than two Leaves of the Preface to the Book aforesaid enough if there were no more for this nameless Publisher and him he calls our Learned Peaceable Compassionate Friend turning them all back as gross Lyes and impudent Slanders For which he that sits in Heaven will rebuke them And tho' the Publisher have Rabshacah like opened his Mouth wide against the Lord and his innocent People yet I shall in the Name and on Behalf of that People tell him his evil Design will be frustrated and his Eyes grow dim and Heart fail before he can ever prove what he hath wrongfully charged And I shall farther Answer them in the Words of Israel's God through his Servant Isaiah Chap. 37. Ver. 22 23. viz. This is the word which the Lord hath spoken concerning him The Virgin the Daughter of Zion hath despised thee and laughed thee to scorn the Daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head against thee Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed And against whom hast thou exalted thy Voice and lifted up thine Eyes on high Even against the Holy One of Israel 18. In Page 23. A strange Story this is Reader indeed and beyond the Power even of Quakers Impudency to deny since it was so long transacting so many Friends concerned in it c. Answ I say it is the Publisher's Impudency to cast upon the Quakers and a great Lye to say so many Friends were concerned it 19. In Page 28. What think of you these dear Sisters true Quakers they were and owned as such to the last Answ I say It 's not only a filthy Taunt but a shameful Lye 20. In Page 28. How many Christ's and Saviours will this People at length produce 21. In the same Page mentioning the Terms and Way of his meaning Christ's saving viz. They must value his Blood and submit to the Rule of his Word But the Quakers saith he like not such Terms therefore will have a Second meaning Christ or a Saviour 22. In same Page he saith Now shall we marvel that Quakers offer us a new Creed or Christianity and scorn our old Bible 23. Again in the same Page When their Spirit says we must have a Second Saviour a Carnal One too and who is within none but a single VVoman 24. Again in the same Page he saith VVas a fit Brother for their Christ within c. 25. In the same 28th Page he saith Is this all No we have more Christs among them c. See now Reader what heaps of Lyes this obscure railing Man belcheth forth to his shame And tho' he hide himself from Men by concealing his Name the Righteous God will find him out to Reward him according to his Works I deny them all as impudent Lyes But to proceed 26. In Page 32 he saith Then your Spirit Fancy or Flatus is your Supreme Rule c. Answ I say A horrid Lye and Slander That Spirit which leads into all Truth is that which we have always owned to be our Supreme Rule which if he had been led by would not have uttered so many Lyes and Slanders which manifests him to be of his Father the Devil who was a Lyer from the beginning 27. In Page 34 he faith So G. F. had the Humility to receive Adoration and VVorship c. Which I say is also another of his gross Lyes upon the Dead 28. In Page 35 he faith VVill G. F. deny it VVho declared himself equal with God and received VVorship c. I say It 's also another impudent Lye cast upon the Dead Let him prove what he charges 29. Again in same Page he saith As their meaning the Quakers Infallibility consists with Lyes and Self-Contradiction so can their Perfection stand with most abominable VVickedness c. Answ I say His Slander herein is abominable The Infallibility of the Eternal Spirit of Truth admits of no Lye nor Contradiction neither can abominable Wickedness stand with the Perfection that is the Product or Work of the Holy Ghost or Spirit in all true Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ And we cannot but bear Testimony against abominable Wickedness and all such as wallow therein as H. W. and other Apostates which makes them and this their obscure Publisher so grievous Angry to load us with so many Calumnies 30. In Page 37 he saith That Jesus descibed in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy Dan 9.24 Or to give such perfect discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World that the Spirits extraordinary Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued But the Quakers by

Man nameless or void of Shame would on one Man's Fault Censure a Multitude And also thereby so far contradict himself Thus having taken Notice of his Contradictions viz. Half a Dozen I shall proceed to the idle Stories of P. Dalston and M. Mark distracted Persons are pregnant Proofs that the Man is Mad Drunk or greatly Intoxicated with bitter Malice against the Quakers especially considering what base frothy sordid and malicious Inferences he draws from the Words and Actions of those two Persons so overpowered by Melancholy besides their Reason and distracted to cast upon the Quakers yea and rather than miss to bespatter and calumniate the Quakers he will make them act Rationally while they are Mad But Wrath is cruel and Anger is outragious but who is able to stand before Envy His like idle and ridiculous Story he gives of him whom he calls An older and more crafty Friend who by the like Revelation came to P. Hobson 's House I ask him what Revelation his like hath relation to the two mad distracted Persons next before taken notice of For it follows the one of them in his said Book Well then will this Man say That he that 's led by the Revelation of a mad or distracted Man can properly be called Crafty What Craft appears in mad or distracted Men For he saith before That is was by Revelation that P. Dalson attempted to swallow his Bed-Sheet and was choaked in the trial Was there any great Craft in that And yet he saith An older and more craftier Friend was he that came by the like Revelation Then methinks he should have the like Ends. This I have said only to shew the hasty Man his Contradiction and Folly But to say something to his Story I have heard of such a Man as P. Hobson but neither that he was either reputed or went by the Name of a Quaker neither doth this Publisher give this crafty Friend of his the Name of a Quaker who rarely is short in any Charge provided it may but affect the Quakers wherefore may be his Friend or P. Hobson's And as he is nameless questioning whether there was ever either such a Man or Thing as he relates I shall leave it as a Matter of his own forging else as a fit nameless Brother to this nameless Publisher Next I shall take Notice of what he relates concerning W. Simpson one that I am not ashamed to own to be one of Us who in the latter end of the time of O. Cromwell had an Exercise upon his Spirit to go through several Towns and Cities in this Nation sometimes naked and with Ashes upon his Head and besmeared as a Sign to that Adulterous Generation of High Professors calling them to Repentance and warning them of an approaching Judgment coming upon them who then had the Rule in both what was then called State and Church for which he was often Imprisoned Whipped and evil Intreated through the hardness of the Hearts of those High Professors then in Authority and in their Pomp and Glory which in a little time after was all laid in the Dust and they turned aside according to the Judgment foretold by W. S. which is worthy noticing And what he adds about the Destruction of Carlisle I deny as false and forged invented to asperse the Dead and calumniate the Quakers against whom his Enmity is so great that he cannot let them alone though in their Graves But proceeds to revile the People called Quakers and the Truth that they profess and bear Testimony unto especially in that he so warmly and zealously espouseth the Cause of so vilely unclean a Man and old Apostate as H. W. with other angry Apostates as G. K. A Combination somewhat resembling that of the High-Priests with Judas Wherefore take heed in time lest the Reward be like in the end As to his like frivolous Stories fetched from Bristol Somersetshire c. I shall refer the Reader to B. C's Answer aforesaid And To what he seems to vent his Spleen in against W. P. in several Pages of his Book I shall tell him that when he gives Us his Name and appears to prove his Charge falsly given against W. P. he may expect to have more Till then I tell him it 's below W. P. to take Notice of such a nameless sculking yet angry Scribler And till then I shall leave him and leave upon him the Mark and Character of one that vilely and maliciously Smites at the Innocent in the Dark hating the Light because his Deeds are Evil. Thus Reader having gone through H. W's Book and what his nameless Publisher adds and taken Notice of what I thought in any respect to be noticed I shall after due Perusal and deliberate Consideration having regard to Truth and good Conscience leave thee honest Reader to judge thereof as thou shalt find occasion recommending thee to that which will undoubtedly give thee a right Understanding as thou comes to be guided and directed thereby to wit the Holy Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and shall leave the Issue of this my Labour to the Lord for whose Sake his Truth and People I have undertaken the same As also to inform such as may be ignorant of or prejudiced against the Truth through false and slanderous Reports cast thereupon through the Instigation of that old wicked restless subtle Enemy to all Truth and Righteousness Out of whose Snares that thou Reader and all Men might be rescued and so preserved is the earnest Prayer of him who is a well-wisher to all Mankind T. C. Camsgil the 20th of the 3d Month 1697. FINIS

AN Old APOSTATE Justly Exposed His Treachery to the Holy God his Truth and People MANIFESTED His great Wickedness and Uncleanness which by False Covers he has Endeavoured to hide laid open to the Shame of him and all his Abettors In a short Answer or some Brief Remarks upon a very Scandalous Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Henry Winder ALSO The Nameless Publisher thereof as justly Reprehended for his Enmity and great Malice in Abusing an Innocent People by heaps of most Gross Lies Slanders Base Insinuations and Inferences Frothy and Scurrilous Scoffs and Taunts so void of Christianity that probably no Man with a Name would Undertake By THOMAS CAMM London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1698. The Dog is turned to his own vomit again and the Sow that was washed to her wallowing in the Mire 2. Pet. 2.22 They went out from us but they were not of us c. John 2.19 Raging Waves of the Sea foaming out their own Shame c. Jude 13. Behold he Travelleth with Iniquity and hath conceived Mischief and brought forth Falshood he made a Pit and digged it and is fallen into the Ditch which he made his Mischief shall return upon his own Head and his Violent Dealing shall come down upon his own Pate Psal 7.14 15 16. THE PREFACE TO THE Impartial Reader IF thou hast Seen or Read a Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Hen. Winder then be pleased to suspend giving Judgment upon the Matter thereof until thou hast Read and duly Considered the Contents of what follows being a short Answer or some brief Remarks upon the most material Passages in that Book Levelled against the Truth and those People commonly called Quakers Remember what the Wise Man saith viz. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth Just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him If thou judge that I have been close upon the Author and have exposed him to publick view consider that he has been the occasion And what is written in Holy Scripture must be fulfilled viz. The Wickedness of the Wicked must return upon his own Head and he that hides his Sins cannot Prosper I confess I was Astonished to see the Subscriber before named grown so Impudent Hard since I had some small knowledge of him many Years past while he seemed to be of us and before he fell into such gross Vncleanness And have seen yea having by me several of his Confessions and Acknowledgments not only of his great Sins and Transgressions but also to the Truth and Way thereof and that the Quakers are the People that walk therein I say I was Astonished to see the Man now grown so Seared as to give himself the Lie and appear in Print against the Truth and Innocent People thereof with that Inconsiderateness and Fury which manifests him to be one of them Evil Men who grows worse and worse and to have entertained again that Evil Spirit that was in some measure once cast out and with him seven times worse which makes his latter end much worse than his beginning I shall not take notice of all his long Narrative but such as chiefly Reflects upon the Truth and People of God called Quakers My Intent and Aim being to Vndeceive or Inform them who have believed his False Reports and Deceitful Slanderous Insinuations against the Truth and Principle thereof which we Profess As also to Detect his false Pretences in his going from Truth and Vs and deserting that Profession that once he made thereof with us by demonstrating the True Cause thereof neither shall I Justifie the Three Women in any thing wherein they missed the Line of Truth which to his Conscience is known we never owned them in though he would now being filled with Enmity Falsly Insinuate we did in order to Prejudice the Minds of People against that Way of Truth from which he is now fallen through Sin and Wickedness And for a Cover thereto as also to gratifie such amongst them with whom he is now joyned as Lusts to be Envious and whose Fingers Itches to be at their old Work of Persecution being angry at the Liberty we now through God's Great Mercy enjoy as to our Religious Duties from the present Government for which we desire ever to be Thankful in all Grateful Acknowledgments How aptly what follows doth answer to what is before proposed I leave to thee Impartial Reader to Judge Recommending thee to the Guidance of the Vnerring Spirit that gives a good Vnderstanding and Leads into all Truth And that thou and all Men might come under the Guidance and Government thereof is the Earnest Desire of him who wisheth Good to all Men. Thomas Camm AN Old Apostate Justly Exposed c. Hen. Winder WILL not thy own Back-sliding Correct thee and is it not a Dreadful Thing that thou should so far harden thy Heart against God and the Convictions of his Spirit in thy own Conscience for thy great and manifold Sins so as to grow as Evil Men always do worse and worse making Shipwrack of Faith and a Good Conscience being Seared as with an Hot Iron to the fulfilling the Testimony of Holy Scripture upon thee viz. Because Judgment from God has not been speedily Executed thy heart has been more set to do Evil Thy Book if it be thine as by thee Subscribed and as I hear in part owned to be so I have seen read and considered of and find thy Enmity great and thy said Book chiefly bent against the Truth and People called Quakers and to Expose an Innocent People to the Fury and Scorn of Malicious Men such as the nameless Publisher thereof For if thou had bent thy self only against those thou names as Injurers of thee since they missed in their Management in that they Charge thee with whether all true or not we leave to him who knows all things and is the Searcher of all Hearts yet I should not have concerned my self on this wise but finding that through their Sides thou endeavourest to strike at Truth against which thou cannot prevail and the Principle thereof born Testimony unto by those Innocent People called Quakers I proceed to take notice of thy Book as followeth First thy Title is The Spirit of Quakerism An old Nickname more beseeming one that had never born the name of a Quaker than thee that once did and to what follows viz. The danger of their Divine Revelation c. Divine Revelation the Quakers own it 's Scripture Doctrine without it none can come to the True and Saving Knowledge of the Only True God and his Son Jesus Christ whom he hath sent whom to know is Life Eternal For it 's the Testimony of Holy Scripture That no Man knows the Father

For when Lust was conceived in us it brought forth Sin and when Sin was finished it brought forth Death c. The Lord made known himself unto us both by his Inward Working in us and by his Messenger unto us Margaret Bradley who is a Faithful Servant of God and a Lover of our Souls who hath Travelled in pain for us c. The Lord Reward her for her Faithfulness between the Lord and us as no doubt but he hath Rewarded her already Ah! you Beloved of us we do this Acknowledge and Confess that we have been such a grievous Burthen and Shame unto you in giving so great Occasion to the Enemy c. Besides you were even pricked to the Heart for us Now we are unworthy and also ashamed to come into your Congregations or into the Assembly of Friends those which we have so grievously Sinned against c. We intreat you if you can find so much Favour and Love in your Hearts towards us as to receive us into your Congregation if it be but into the Entry of your Houses where you meet together to wait upon God c. This out of one of their said Papers now hear also what follows taken out of the Second beginning thus viz. Be it known unto all People unto whom these Presents shall be read That I H. Winder and Ann my Wife do acknowledge and confess before the Living God and unto all People That we have Sinned and done that which we ought not to have done in suffering the Temptations of Sin in the Flesh to overcome us and lead us out of the strait and narrow Way which leads to Life c. So this know all People that it was not because the Quakers Judgment or Doctrine or way of Worship is False that it caused us to fall from them But our fall was of our selves and their Judgment their Doctrine their way of Worship and Faith is Acceptable with the Lord we do Faithfully Believe it and also Acknowledge it c. He hath called us to Repentance For he would not the Death of a Sinner but rather that he should Repent and Live c. I was afraid and hid my self five days but my Covering was too narrow but the Word of the Lord came to me again saying Hide not thy self nor be not Rebellious any longer For I the Lord fill Heaven and Earth with my Presence therefore confess thy Sins and Repent and forsake them c. Then I fell down at the Word of the Lord Trembling Fasting and Praying Weeping and Mourning before the Lord three days c. Let all People take Warning by me to call to Remembrance their former Sins and Transgressions which they have committed before the Lord God for he fills Heaven and Earth with his Presence and nothing can be hid from him c. Let the Wicked forsake his Ways and the Unrighteous his Thoughts and let us turn unto the Lord with penitent Hearts confessing the Evil of our Doings c. Thus far out of the said two Papers faithfully taken out which if any shall question I hereby profer such if they please to read them at large And let it be noted Reader that upon the 15th of the 1st Month commonly called March last past those two Papers out of which I have taken what is above-written was then intended to have been shewed to both H. W and his Wife but he not being met with the said Ann his Wife did then own them to be their own Papers and that she Writ them with her own Hands And did also then own the Preface Narrative and Postscript of that Book called The Spirit of Quakerism c. to be her Husband 's And being further queried why they should put forth such a Wicked Book she answered Ah! we were put upon it by several else we had never done it but would not tell who they were though then desired only confessed that Mr. Gillpin wrote down all things thereof as they were Transacted And the said Ann H. W's Wife querying then of our Friends whose Names are after Subscribed as Witnesses whether we intended to answer their said Book our Friends answering Yea it would be Answered to which she replyed And then will you lay us open to the World c. Witnesses hereof William Grenhope William Greenhow John Bowstead Richard Atkinson I shall now add what is so Notoriously known in the face of the Neighbourhood that though the said H. W. be greatly hardned yet I presume he cannot have a face to deny relating to their great uncleanness for which they were denyed of us c. First the said H. W. had her that is now his Wife so great with Child in his first Wife's dayes that there was but about six Weeks betwixt the Death of his first Wife and the Birth of that Child Now Reader be pleased to compare what is before taken out of their own Papers and what is added as a demonstration of their great Wickedness and Uncleanness that their Papers have relation to and for which they were denyed of our Friends with what I have in short before cited out of their own Book viz. that God should choose him viz. H. W. to be his Instrument to Fight this Battle c. And when I consider what Persons our Saviour chose for his great Apostles c. But being Conscious of our perfect Innocency we made our Appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts c. Again we know no Guilt c. Again a Burthen Intolerable had I not been Supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience c. And then Reader after such comparing the One with the Other and due Consideration thereof I shall leave it to thee if thou be such an one as hath the Fear of God before thee to judge whether this our Adversary H. W. is like an Instrument chosen of the Pure Holy God or in any respect like the Apostles of Holy Jesus fit to be dignified by appearing on God's behalf Can be Conscious of perfect Innocency or can as such make his appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts can know no guilt Can be supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience or no And whether it be not great Impiety and Blasphemous in him so to say considering his Circumstances as before And whether it doth not bespeak and declare his Conscience to be Seared as with an Hot Iron or no Ah surely the Righteous God will Rebuke him for his Abominable Uncleanness and Impiety Hypocrisie and make him and all his Abettors Examples in his Wrath If they Repent not Further let the Reader observe that the said H. W. in the first Page of his Narrative saith That it was in the Year 1673. and Harvest time when Margaret Bradley one of the three Women he calls his Accusers came with a Message to him and after the Relation of her then Message to him he also relates his Answer viz. ' The Lord Rebuke thee thou

the said H. W. So that the time that can in any respect be supposed for such Solicitations is reduced within the Compass of about Nine Days And that time under strong suspicion of her Sisters being with Child as aforesaid which in reason may be admitted as sufficient to prevent such Solicitation if there had been inclination thereto which I believe not Much more would the certain knowledge of her Sisters being with Child to the Man that basely saith she several times expressed her great Affection and Desire to have him c. For no doubt but the discovery of that Uncleanness and that the said H. W. had so basely abused her Sister would administer occasion of being highly offended at him all Circumstances considered he having a Wife of his own and an honest one too for ought that ever I heard though she had the hard hap of having a very dishonest Husband if not worse Such an one as that she that should express her Affection and Desire as aforesaid considering all his Circumstances so close upon the death of his Wife her death so sudden and surprising her Sister then big with Child by him must needs be concluded Mad or greatly Infatuated and bereaved of common Sense and Reason Wherefore pray consider what sort of Man this H. W. is this very noted Passage highly detects him to be very base enough to give the Reader a clearer sight of him and his whole Book Wherefore pray further consider what kind of Readers must his Book have that believes him who so frequently detects himself of great Falshood I know none that believes him except his nameless as well as shameless Publisher who is like one of them who said Report and we will report it yet may question whether he dare so far express himself as to give us his Name with his belief of the Truth of H. W's Book which he has published especially now when H. W. and his Book is exposed and his false Covers plucked off and he proving a very unclean Man as also very false and malicious And I would hope that such as have abetted him and put him upon Printing such false malicious slanderous as well as sensless Stuff will now repent thereof with respect to their Repute and Credit and to prevent what will be the Reward of all that are accessory to such an evil Work viz. Shame and Confusion of Face And may it not be expected that he whom H. W. calls Excellent Learned and Pious Mr. Gilpin Minister then of their Church and who the now Wife of H. W. confessed the 15th of the first Month now last past 1696 7 before the four Friends before named did write down all Matters relating to H. W's Narrative as they were transacted will now see that he has been too officious on the behalf of such a Man and will ingenuously confess that he was greatly mistaken or worse when on his behalf he gave that Testimony related in Page 12 of the said Narrative That he H. W. was always accounted a very faithful and just Man and that he had for a long time experienced him to be so Oh sad that a Man of his Figure and Station should so mistake to speak modestly to give Testimony and that as he saith upon long Experience that he viz. H. W. had always been accounted a very faithful and just Man when notoriously known as before related to be both very unfaithful and unjust at least to his Wife But Prejudice and Enmity has made many otherways wise greatly to befool themselves Neither will J. N. whom he calls Deacon of their Church get Repute either to himself or Church in Abetting or Testifying on behalf of H. W. if it be such as he who is called Mr. Gilpin has Testified Some few Passages more of the said Book of H. W's I shall take notice of and so draw to a Conclusion with him having exceeded what I intended but that I find so much Dirt to remove off the Innocent and cast back whence it came and is worthy to stick The first is what I find related about the Search made on Sparkehead-Moore in Page 9. Thus They were slow and had no great Courage to begin the Search but my Wife spurred them on and bid 'em chear up and take Courage c. Thus she upbraided their Faintness and Folly c. Answ She being examined about this Matter by the four Friends before-named the same 15th of the First Month before-mentioned 1697 She viz. H. W's Wife answered Yes at the first I did put them on but I confess my Spirit failed and I did cry out It seems from this Confession that she had neither Innocency nor Confidence enough to support her but her Spirit fell and she cried out The Reason whereof I leave to God and her own Conscience in hope that her Heart is not yet grown so hard as her Husband 's since she confesseth to some Truth The next is what I find in Page 16. viz. Hitherto the Lord of his infinite free Mercy prel●●g● my days with my dear and faithful Wife and Children whom he hath increased preserved and abundantly blessed My whole Family he hath spared as a Father spares his own Son that serves him And this I declare c. Answ Let such as name the Holy Name of the Holy God depart from Iniquity for he will not be holden guiltless that taketh his Name in vain though he long spare and his long-suffering be very great yet in the end Tribulation and Anguish will be the Portion of the Wicked Wherefore let H. W. hear and fear and not bless himself in that he has been spared to this Day nor boast of his Posterity for the Wicked has been seen ere now to spread forth Branches like the green Bay Tree and all things to go well with him yet stands in a slippery place suddenly goes down into the Pit and Bastard's Slips has not long nor deep Rooting neither can Whoremongers Adulterers or Lyers have any part or place in the Kingdom of Heaven but in Tophet prepared of old for the Devil and his Angels In Page 21 he saith I fell into a Temptation wherein I was so cast down that I despaired to receive Comfort any way but in the Ordinances appointed c. Answ It 's evident he has not fallen into one only but many Temptations and gross Evils which all his outward Ordinances cannot redeem him out of for it 's the Blood of Jesus that cleanseth from Sin in which Remission comes to be known in the Work of Regeneration and Renewings of the Holy Spirit where there 's unfeigned Repentance and a walking in the Light Which this Man reviles and slights and counts deceivable and would falsly insinuate to be the ground of his Erring from the way of Truth which bespeaks him in a dangerous Condition blaspheming against that Light in which all must walk who comes to be cleansed from all Sin for if we walk in the Light

as he is in the Light we have Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1.7 So that till H. W. turn to this Light come to walk in it even that which did not only manifest his Sin but reproved and condemned him therefore and through the Convictions whereof he was made in time past before he that led him into Sin had hardened his Heart to confess his Sins and Transgressions that he would now hide and cover I say till he come again to this Light and incline to walk in it all his outward Ordinances will never cleanse him nor make him a better Man let him apply himself never so much thereto And I shall now advise him to look back at his Work and consider the Effects thereof and see what Reproach he has brought upon himself being fallen into the foul Pit of Infamy and Shame that he had digged for others endeavouring to Criminate the Innocent Quakers he has exposed his own Crimes would God that he and his Wife might yet see their sad and dismal Estate and consider whence they are fallen and repent and do their first Works and so find a place of Repentance if happily they have not so added Sin to Sin and Rebellion to their great Wickedness knowingly so as to provoke a merciful and long-suffering God to make them Examples of his Wrath and fiery Indignation the eternal Portion of such wicked and impenitent Sinners which add Sin to Sin till the Measure of their Iniquity be filled up and it be said Go ye cursed into everlasting fire One thing more is to be taken notice of for the Information of the Reader that is part of his Title-Page viz. Their malicious Prosecution of H. W. and his Wife as Murtherers at the Publick Assize at Carlisle I Answer It 's very fallaciously worded so may deceive the unwary Reader who may therefrom conclude That there was some legal Prosecution that H. W. had been Called and Arraigned at the Barr had had a Trial and the Issue of a Jury and so an Assize Business when indeed there was no such thing if there had we should have it to the full or more For in Page 6. They stretch things to the height Which amounteth to thus much That H. W. and his Wife was there and the three Women also That the Women drew up their Accusations in Writing against H. W. and Wife and cast them in Towns and Streets that must be before they came at Carlisle at Carlisle gave one of their Papers to the judge and he only bid them proceed according to Law and they should have Justice That both Parties staid all the time of the Assizes And all else that the Women did was that they bid H. W. and his Wife fear God This is the Prosecution in full as in the 6th Page before is by H. W. given A very small Prosecution if it may properly be called One The Woman gave the Judge one of their Papers and bid H. W. and his Wife fear God Who would have thought reading the Title-Page as it is worded but that their had been a formal Prosecution at the Assizes And if the Man had meant honestly we doubt not but he would have qualified the word Prosecution with Endeavours or Attempts of Prosecution For all that was done by the said three Women at those Assizes can in t e greatest strictness amount to no more Thus having taken notice of what I thought most material in his Book which in any respect reflected upon Us the People called Quakers or the Holy Church which we make profession of wiping off the Dirt he throws at Us turns it back upon himself stripping off his deceitful Covers and exposeth him to the view of all to be a very unclean Man an angry Apostate demonstrating wherein the three Women missed the way of Truth and was disowned therein All which as before inserted I now freely submit and leave to the impartial and honest Reader 's Censure and Judgment and the Issue to the Lord And shall now begin to say something to the nameless Publisher But first I shall note unto the Reader That since I began the foregoing Answer to H. W. I am informed that there is already something published in Print by another Hand by way of Answer thereto in a Postscript to another nameless Author who like this Publisher has vilely abused the Quakers Now to what the nameless Publisher adds to the same Book subscribed by H. W. is such a Piece as I remember not that I have before read the like from any of our many envious Opposers and malicious Detracters Being such a Piece of down right Railery stuffed with Lyes gross Slanders ungodly Perversions base insinuations and most sordid and perverse Inferences yea Blasphemy and Contradictions idle Stories frothy and scurrilous Taunts that to trace particularly in every thing would be a tedious Work and more than I think needful till he appear to own what he has charged by giving us his Name who in the concealing of the same may think himself secure yet will render him and his Work very suspicious of great Injustice and Falshood thereby and so s●eakingly to charge that to wise thinking and judicious Readers it might be sufficient without any Answer yet for the sake of the unwary and too credulous Readers and for the better Information of such as by this his Work and the like has entertained Prejudice against the Truth and the Principle and Profession thereof as testified unto by the People commonly called Quakers and as a just Rebuke upon him for his ungodly Work I shall take notice of part thereof at present not fearing his Roll of 13 Ells or what else he mentions in his Preface though it prove as bad and as full of Envy as what he has here exposed against us The Method I propose for brevity sake is first to draw a Catalogue List or Schedule of some of his down-right Lyes and false Slanders as I find them packed up thick and threefold in his and H. W's Book and leave them at his Door as such with some short Remarks subjoyned challenging him if he can or dare appear as a Man with his Name to come forth to the Vindication or Proof thereof till which I look upon my self either on behalf of Truth or the People I own and walk amongst under no farther necessity of Answering Which Catalogue List or Schedule take as followeth under the Title of Gross Lyes and Slanders of the nameless Publisher of H. W's Book At his very Entrance of what he adds in the Postscript he begins with a Lye 1. I find the Quakers in open Discord c. Answ The Discord is betwixt the Quakers and Apostates such as H. W. c. and their Abettors And we have Divine Authority and Primitive Example in denying such Fellowship with us 2. Who cannot Err c. Meaning the Quakers Answ We never said so

pretending constant Prophetical Revelation from him meaning Christ deny his Work aforesaid and that he has done his VVork deny that he is come or worse nay that he ever was to come or needs to come c. Answ What a Crotchet this Man has in his Head about the word Extraordinary I know not but that That Jesus described in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy or to give such perfect Discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World by what is writeen in Holy Scripture That the Spirit 's Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued is denied as Erroneous and that of Dan. 9.24 instanced to prove the same is no Proof thereof in the least without miserable wresting and misconstruing the same A thing he falsly chargeth upon the Quakers but declares his own Guilt therein And there is great necessity for the continued Help and Illumination of the Holy Spirit for without the Illumination thereof we can neither know God nor the things of God For as saith the Scripture the things of God know no Man but by his Spirit being that which searcheth into the revealeth the deep things of God and is given of God to lead into all Truth whom the World cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him But you know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you Read John 14 16 17. And it 's in and by the Illumination of this Spirit that Christ revealeth himself unto his Chosen and through which the true Believers in Christ are enabled to keep his Words Such the Father loveth and to such the Father and Son cometh in this Eternal Spirit and maketh their abode with Read also Verses 22 23. And that the Quakers deny the Work of Christ that he was to come did come or need to come or what is worse his false Insinuation amounts to a four-fold Lye and a great Slander And to make his Slander greater in what 's worse let him tell what 's worse if he can than what he has before falsly charged It seems his Mouth is full of bitter Stuff and such he vents without regard to Truth or Honesty being so drunken with Enmity to vomit out his own Shame and Filth yet perhaps looks upon himself safe in concealing his Name 31. And further in the Page last mentioned he will needs be either a Reviler or Deceiver in telling what the Quakers may be viz. It 's but saith he to consult their Light it will give Response like that cum fueris Romae c. Then enter Father Molenos all is done they may in a new Sense as their Inward Christ will not fail to tell them become all things to all Men as already in Habits and Gestures so might be Papists and Turks c. Answ How this Man who pretends great Reverence to Scripture and the Ministers of Christ Jesus Reflects upon both by his false and ungrounded Inferences For did not the Apostles become all Things to all Men Namely for the gaining of some to the Truth yet upon no occasion became either Papists or Turks Neither did the Apostles nor Christ within the Hope of Glory without which all are Reprobates ever give this Man's Response who more and more expresseth himself to be altogether regardless of Truth Honesty or fair Dealing But to proceed 32. In Page 38 he saith One most fatally intoxicating Notion I take to be that of the Saving Grace of God in all Men What could Men devise more proud and provoking to bring all God's Remedial Provisions into Contempt I can see nothing it saves unless they mean It saves them all Care and Pains in working out their Salvation for no People sleeps so secure as they without all Fear or Spiritual Conflict Answ Such a Graceless as well as Blasphemous Aspersion as none but a graceless Man or such an one as has turned from Grace into Wantonness and great Enmity having done despite to the Spirit of Grace with his Name to it will or dare to Assert being so positive a Contradiction to Holy Scripture Titus 2.12 13. For the Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath appeared to all Men teaching Us the Believers and Obeyers thereof that denying all ungodliness and worldly Lusts we should live Soberly Righteously and Godlily in this present World Is this Advice proud and provoking to bring all God's Remedial Provisions to Contempt Let him take heed whom he provokes by such Blasphemies the Text saying It 's the Grace of God that bringeth to Salvation Then surely it's Saving being God's Grace by which the Saints were saved through Faith in our Lord Jesus Christ for they said by Grace we are saved It taught them as aforesaid being that Grace coming by Jesus Christ the Saviour of all that are saved and appears within as it is of God because that which may be known of God is manifest in them for God hath shewed it unto them Rom. 1.19 And who are taught by this Grace that appeareth unto all Men comes to Salvation being God's Gift through Jesus Christ the Saviour tho' too too many to whom it appears and is Inwardly revealed doth Despite thereto denies to be Taught thereby turns it into Wantonness becomes thereby vain in their Imaginations and their foolish Hearts come to be darkened frustrating on their behalfs the Merciful end of God on the account of the appearance of his Grace to them the same that otherwise is intended for their Salvation So that Man's Destruction is of himself but Help and Salvation only of the Lord who gives the appearance of this Grace unto all Men and Wills thereby the Salvation of all not the Death of any Sinner but rather that he should come to be taught by this Grace and be saved and live So that this Man manifests both his Pride and Provocation against God's Grace and the Divine Testimony thereto in the Holy Scripture as well as slighting the Teaching thereof and Ignorance of its blessed Work in calling it A fatally intoxicating Notion proud and provoking as aforesaid c. That he can see nothing it saves from except c. It 's not like he should see or know what it saves from who Blasphemes against it neither knows what Spiritual Conflicts they have who are taught by it nor the sufficiency thereof to support through them all as it was said of God to be to the Apostle Paul to wit My Grace is sufficient being thereby strengthened in the time of need But to proceed In the same Page last mentioned he goes on and calls what before he called One most fatally intoxicating Notion Now this one Anti-Scriptural Conceit Answ But how far he is wrong and abusive in this and how agreeable the Testimony we bear on behalf of the Grace of God is correspondent and agreeing with Divine Testimony I leave to the wise in Heart to judge He is resolved to abuse us tho' it will at last turn upon himself with Shame 33.

He goes on in a frantick Fit of Railing in which I confess him to be a very great Artist excepting that his Heat runs him into Contradiction but has made notable provision to keep himself hid whatever he say tho' never so Wicked and False by concealing his Name he saith No Guide so slippery as that they have chosen a very Proteus c. They can confess or deny Christ's coming in the Flesh they can own or disown his Satisfaction and Righteousness value or deride and decry his Benefits Grace and Word pro re nata the Anti-Christ's in St. John's Days were honest Men to you c. Prov. 14.16 A wise Man feareth and departeth from Evil but the Fool rageth and is confident Answ Is it not he that decries and disowns the Benefits of God Doth not he say He sees nothing that it saves and has not he chosen the slippery Guide the very Proteus The Quakers saith he can own or disown value or decry his slippery Guide leads him into Confusion and Self-Contradiction For if they do value as he saith they can do then they cannot deride and decry Christ's Benefits Grace and Word neither do for all his clamourous Noise against them who would render them worse than the Anti-Christ's in St. John's time nay these Anti-Christs honest Men comparing as aforesaid yet fails in demonstrating in what their Honesty consisted I conclude they had none and if he have any none of it appears And how aptly that Text in Prov. 14.16 is applicable to him sober Reader judge In Page the 40th I find another Piece full stuffed with Lyes Slanders and perfect Reviling viz. Then is Quakerism contrary to the Doctrine that is of God I know what Respect they give it since a good Act of Parliament taught them what to say for Peace But how else do they yet honour it And till they do what sort of Christians can they be c. Christians I find those called who received Christ's and his Apostles Doctrine about the Person and Office of Christ c. 34. But these meaning the Quakers do not they hereby confess another Christ c. Answ First let the Reader observe this Man's Confusion and Contradiction for in Page 30 he saith viz. We never knew or shall know what is the Doctrine of Quakerism Yet in Page 40 affirms it to be contrary to the Doctrine that is of God Can he or any Man else tell what that is that he never knew nor shall know But such Stuff as is in an unclean Vessel must out when it opens and the nauseous smell thereof declares whence it comes It 's his great Abuse of us to say A good Act of Parliament taught us c. We were taught we bless the Lord before that good Act how to believe in and what to say of the Doctrine of God and Holy Scripture But no doubt this obscure Man is very Angry that the Parliament should Believe or take Notice of our Sincere and Christian Confession and Belief thereof and vouchsafe unto us any Liberty Peace or Ease since he endeavours to Unchristian us and insinuate that we do not yet honour the said Doctrine and at last say we do not in plain Words as above Also insinuating we confess another Christ which is false And is not all this to expose us to Persecution and the Wrath of Men Yea he farther manifests his Design elsewhere As Page 35. Thus Against G. K. and Christ without they 'll bear Testimony but none against the late King James and Popery Again in Page 39. Thus But what 's the matter that we so seldom hear of their Messages to Magistrates and Ministers now adays Why none to King William and his Parliament as to Oliver and his c. Mark the peaceable Mind and Innocency of unfighting unswearing Quakers c. Again Had they not need to assure the Magistrates that now their Minds is changed Else how unsure is the State and Church c. By which it 's easie to guess what this Man would be at New-England Halters or the like But the curst Cow has short Horns is the old Proverb and blessed be ●od we have great Confidence in our Appeal to the present Government as in former Times to all others as with Respect to our Innocency and Peaceable Behaviour under every Government that the Great God and Governor of all Things has ordered and permitted to be over us so needs not change our Minds having the Mind of our Lord Christ Jesus who has taught us neither to Fight nor to Swear but to live Peaceably and to put up our Prayers for Kings and Governours that we might live a Godly and Peaceable Life in all Honesty And we have great Cause to bless God and be thankful that we have through his Assistance been so preserved in an Innocent and Peaceable Frame of Spirit towards the Governments that the most wrathful of our Enemies or Detracters cannot justly charge the contrary We have also cause of Thankfulness That we are known to be otherwise to the present Government than this angry Man would represent us and that we are vouchsafed Protection thereby from what this and such like restless Men would be at whose Fingers itch to stir up Strife Hatred and Persecution which if it be not the worst part is yet a very bad piece of Popery 35. Again in Page 35 he saith Adorn Christian Doctrine which they profess not meaning the Quakers Answ It 's another of his Lyes a Shame to and a Stain upon Christian Doctrine and Religion if he pretend or advise thereto let him stop till he learn to speak Truth till he has got a Bridle to his Tongue that unruly Member that 's set on fire he may read by what For if the Apostle James's Doctrine be true and to be believed we are not to take Notice of his seemign to be Religious while he doth not Bridle his Tongue Which it 's evident this Man doth not So concludes with the said Apostle that this Man's Religion is but a vain pretence 36. In Page 36 he saith Beware of the Quakers Spirit and Insinuation it has often appeared that such as have adjoyned themselves to them are prepared for any Delusions the Devil can suggest c. Answ A gross Slander The Divine Spirit which the Quakers Witness and bears Testimomony to delivers from and preserves out of Delusions of the Devil who it is that hath suggested this Lye against the Truth 37. In Page 47. But these saith he meaning the Quakers waxing secure and wanton in Formal Profession first cast off all Ordinances all Outward Duties all Prayer only with this Reserve when their own Spirits would give them a Jogg c. Answ His Charge is false and malicious and bespeaks him to be given up to serve the Father of Lyes as what he calls the Reserve is idle and frothy For it 's by the Eternal Spirit that we are opened and assisted in all our Duties to God