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A02435 A description of the Church of Christ, with her peculiar priuiledges, and also of her commons, and entercommoners With some oppositions and answers of defence, for the maintenance of the truth which shee professeth: against certaine Anabaptisticall and erronious opinions, verie hurtfull and dangerous to weake Christians. Maintained and practised by one Master Iohn Smith, sometimes a preacher in Lincolneshire, and a companie of English people with him now at Amsterdam in Holland. Whome he hath there with himselfe rebaptised. By I.H. Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645. 1610 (1610) STC 12567; ESTC S118987 75,210 130

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Father who is aboue all and through all and in them all And these are entred into the kingdome of heauen Rom. 14.17 which is not meate and drinke and apparrell but righteousnesse and peace and ioy in the holy Ghost Now let vs speake a little of the liberty and freedome of this kingdome This kingdome is free not in bondage but at liberty wheresoeuer she liueth in any kingdome or common-wealth and if the Magistracie thereof say eate they eate or drinke they drinke or put on they put on obserue and keepe touch or tast or handle or pay they obey If they forbid they also heare and forbeare both in these and all other things of the like nature And so are they obedient to all manner ordinances of man for the Lords sake against whose commandement else they should sinne Luk. 20.25 who saith Rom. 13.7 Giue vnto Caesar those things that are Caesars And there is no kingdome or state whatsoeuer where Christians are not in bondage if it bee a bondage to some of these And if there were which is vnpossible then were it left to their choise to take or leaue with moderation as please them as it is also vnder a gouernment where many things of the same nature are so left neither commanded nor forbidden And herein consisteth their liberty in that it toucheth not their conscience For whether they eate or eate not they sinne not for God requireth neither the one nor the other wherfore if we giue these things to Caesar we do wrong neither to God nor yet to our consciences but rather if we giue not being required as the Lord himselfe said in the like case Mat. 17.27 Pay it to them least wee offend And as Caesar must haue and be obeyed in whatsoeuer belongs to him so wee must giue vnto God whatsoeuer he requires and obey him in whatsoeuer he commands Now the greatest difficulty lieth in this to distinguish betweene the things of God and the things of Caesar that knowing them asunder we may the better know how wherein to obey both God and Caesar And herein by the grace of my God I will not say any thing for any respect in and of the world whatsoeuer but Gods truth and his Church seeing that I know it shal come to the tryal of such a touchstone which cannot erre Who will waigh it try it and condemne it if it be found corrupt or too light And although it be a common fault in men to respect the present and generall affection and the approbation of the most and greatest sway they as they will Yet insomuch as I know that God is in all times and seeth in al places be they neuer so secret and also that he hath eyes abroad that can see though many be blind and lyes goe as current as truth with many and seeing I know not onely this time but a better time shall try it I will therefore bee aduised and take heede what I say for assuredly there is no lye made by the cunningst inuenter of lyes whatsoeuer but shall once eyther sooner or later suffer death at the hands of truth And there is no stubble or straw whatsoeuer but shall bee consumed with the flame thereof Now let vs see first what are the things of God which doth belong to him And then we shall the easier see what are Caesars thinges that belong to him Iohn 4.23.34 The things of God are truth and spirit John 17.17 his truth is his word his worde is his law his law is of two sorts and therefore is called two Testaments Ioh. 4.23.24 17.17 The Testament and law of death and the Reuelation and Couenant of life All the Scriptures are true but all that is written therein is not the word of God For sometimes the holy Ghost sets downe the sinnes and practises of euill men Ier. 28. And sometimes he describeth vnto vs the lying wordes of the false prophets which when wee read we must not take it for the word of God but that it is true we must beleeue for they which wrote it could not erre therein and therefore truth it is but not the truth The word of God then and the truth we meane Is that which came from heauen whether that iust and holy law of commaundements which is called the minister of death because we could not fulfill it and therfore it could not giue vs life but the iust sentēce of death or that perfect law and testament of life Psal 19.7 which conuerteth soules I meane the Gospell which is in a more speciall and peculiar maner called the word of God then the law is or can be as where it saith Faith commeth by hearing Rom. 10.17 2. Pet. 1.19 and hearing by the worde of God And againe we haue a most sure worde of the Prophets vnto the which ye doe well that yee giue heed c. And in diuers other places both in the new and old Testament whereby nothing is meant by any meanes but the promise and word of life And therefore he saith Iohn 17.17 Sanctifie them through thy word thy word is the truth Now in these two Testaments is declared whatsoeuer God requireth eyther due to himselfe from vs whether it be faith or obedience And also our duetie to our neighbours of all sorts high and low good and bad and all the holy Prophesies Reuelations which came frō aboue and sacrifices and shadows whatsoeuer which 〈◊〉 scriptures do set forth vnto vs do tend to one or other of these two and both and all doe tend eyther to shew forth the riches of God in his bounty and mercy and the condition of those that turne obey his Gospell and loue his law or his seuerity and iustice in the condition of those that disobey both lawe and Gospell That the end of all might bee the glory of God and of our Lord Iesus Christ Now the speciall things of God that doe belong peculiarly to him alone are they that we must speake of His peculiar things are these first as from him we are gone astray and by his holy law pronounced dead so to him alone we must returne to seeke life for he alone can giue it vs In him alone we must beleeue and put our confidence to him alone wee must pray and hee onely must be our God and chiefe delight Him onely we must feare as God him only we must loue as God him onely wee must acknowledge for our Sauiour and Redeemer his commandements must be obeyed onely aboue all and hee onely worshipped with our whole spirits For he alone must haue our hearts and this is spirit ioyned with truth John 4.21 Neither this mountaine nor that doth hee require nor yet forbid what he commaundeth not Cesar may forbid what he forbiddeth not Cesar may command God requireth euery place alike Cesar may commaund a place for the publike so he doe forbid none in priuate God requireth
and it answereth to Ierufalem which now is and she is in bondage with her children But Ierusalem which is from aboue is free which is the mother of vs all c. The meaning is That as there were two feeds euen from the beginning the seed of the serpent and the seede of the woman Gen 3.15 figured by Adams two first sonnes Gen. 4.3.4 Caine and Abell Caine going before with his sacrifice Abell comming after with his The one the sonne of the serpent the other the childe of woman the one the childe of the lawe of death the other the childe of the Testament of life for these two Testaments were before either Caine or Abell came to offer their sacrifice and were figured by the two trees that were in the midst of the Garden Gen. 2.9 the Tree of knowledge of good and euill representing the law oftenne commanddements For to the tenne comandements the tree of knowledge of good and euill one curse belonged viz. Reu. 2.7 Thou shalt die the death And the Tree of life representing the Testament and fruite of life as the Lord himselfe proueth when he saith To him that ouercommeth wil I giue to eate of the tree of life which is in the middest of the Paradise of God And as God did set before Adam life and death to chuse and he chose death to himselfe and all his posterity Gen. 2.16.7 so yet still and againe God hath set the same before vs as Moyses saith Behold Deut. 11.26 Deut 30.11.12.14.15 I haue set before you life and death curse and blessing to chuse And as Adam chose death euen so his generation for the most part chuse rather death cursing Rom 10.6.7.8 then life and blessing and are the bond-womans children and so will be like Caine and Ishmael I say as God did prefigure the two Testaments Gen. 19.10.12 and the two seeds to Adam and his feed vntill Abraham So did he then renew his couenants to Abraham figuring them by Agar and Sara and their seed by Ishmael and Isaack Which thing me thinks you M. Smith should not be ignorant of seeing you take such great matters vpon you Now these two sonnes doe not represent the naturall Iew Deut. 10.17 Iob. 34.19 Act. 10.34 35. and the naturall Gentile but the Spirituall Iewe and the Spirituall Gentile for God respects not of what Nation a man be of so he feare and seeke him his couenant shall be vnto him wheresoeuer he be as the Apostle proueth saying Rom. 2.14.15.16.26.27.28.29 If the Gentile doe by nature the things contained in the law that is be circumcised in heart he shall be found a Iew when the Iew circumcised in skinne but not in heart shall be found a Gentile For he is not a Iew that is one without but hee is a Iew that is one within and that is not circumcision that is on the skinne but that which is in the heart And these are the two seedes figured by the two sonnes Ishmael and Isaack and are not tyed either to times or places or Nations but are in all times and of all Nations wheresoeuer lesse or more Now the mothers of these two Children are said to be Hagar that is Sinai Gal. 4. and Sara that is Sion Ierusalem from aboue The one representing the Testament of commandements the other the Testament of mercy the one death the other life the one cursing the other blessing and these are the onely two Testaments of God And whether of these two you make circumcision to be the seale or signe of I cannot tell To be a seale of the promise of life or of any thing pertaining thereunto you flatly deny And to bee a seale of the commandements or of the curse pronounced with them Is as contrary as cursing blessing For circumcision was giuen to Abrahā as a seale of the righteousnes of faith Rom. 4.5 Psal 32.1.2 Rom. 4.11 which God performed not onely vnto him but to all his spirituall children as wel Iewes as Gentiles not only since Christs death but long before Not that circumcision did seale all Abrahams naturall Children to be the Children of promise nor yet any one of them nor Abraham himselfe But it was giuen as a seale not of their faithfulnes to God nor yet to seale their saluation vnto them but to seale God his faithfulnes in his promise to all those of Abrahams Children that vnhardned their hearts like Abraham Rom. 8.15 Whether male or female Iewe or Gentile which hee sealed in their hearts by his spirit of promise whereby they all cryed Abba Father And as the rayne-bow doth confirme Gods faithfulnes to the world not mans faithfulnes to God Euen as Baptisme now is a seale not of euery ones saluation that receiueth it but a seale of Gods faithfulnes in his Couenant of mercy made to all Abrahams seed baptised and circumcised in heart like him which he sealeth vnto their hearts by his spirit of promise not by baptisme And so baptisme doth come indeed truely in the roome of Circumcision not that Circumcision was a type of baptisme but they are both types of one truth which is Circumcision or baptisme in heart As Hagar and Sinai were of another truth Euen of the Testament of Commaundements which was giuen vpon mount Sinai which gendreth or increaseth bondage Which answereth to Ierusalem Ierusalem to it not because it should be so but because they would bee so Chusing rather to be Hagars sonnes Children to Sinai which begetteth and bringeth forth to death Heb. 3.16.17.18.19 Heb. 4.2 then children of Sara and mount Sion which bringeth forth to life For as it is written the Gospell and word that is preached vnto vs was also preached vnto them but the word which they heard profited not them for they when they heard it prouoked him yet not al but with whom was he displeased forty years euen with those that hardned their hearts and wold not heare his voice Euen Hagars sonnes And as Dauid cryeth out to them of his tnne Psal 95.8 saying To day if ye wil heare his voice harden not your hearts as in the prouocation For the most of all Abrahams naturall seed which possessed the earthly Ierusalem and earthly Canaan did chuserather to bee the children of death and bondage figured by the bond woman and Sinai Then to be children of life and liberty figured by mount Sion and the free woman being all for the most part of them Rom. 10.3 ignorant of the righteousnes of faith sought altogether to establish their owne righteousnes framed according to the Law of commandements as they pretended which neither they nor their fathers did euer keepe Ioyning therewith the strict obseruation of the Ceremoniall law supposing their whole life and saluation consisted therein which were both giuen to another end then that which they intended For the Law of commandements was giuen Rom. 7.8 not
truth for it is sharper then any two edged sword Take heede therefore and marke well the thinges that are heere written vnto you and search the Scriptures whether they be so or no for they are GODS witnesses and they tell the truth what euer man saies and I pray you take heede you mistake not the Lord for his word is a mistery especially these things which are called the secrets of the kingdome of heauen And beware that you affirme not any thing which he hath not said nor meant nor gain-say or diminish any thing from his intent and howsoeuer ye haue failed therein already yet considering as I perswade my selfe you are not of those louers and makers of lies for I hope farre better things of you M. Smith Reu. 22.15 and therefore that we may vnderstand the Lord and see his secrets euen the secrets of his kingdome Let vs intreate him with broken and humble hearts for the spirit of trueth that holy annointing which is true and not lying that as it doth teach vs euen so we may abide in him and so let vs write and speake Let vs annoint our eyes with eye salue that we may see euen with the water of a dissolued broken heart and we shall see better things then forme and fashion That we may discerne betweene those that haue but the forme of godlinesse and them that haue the power thereof That wee may see and know those little ones whom to receiue is to receiue the Lord and to loue them whom to loue is to loue the Lord and to loue the Lord is life for euermore And this is that loue without the which all knowledge and all faith doth but make vs as sounding brasse and tinckling Cimballs For by this loue 1. Cor. 13.1 2 3. we shall know that we are translated from death to life and by this loue we shal approue our selues to the little ones to haue that one peculiar faith with them the assurance of the loue of God vnto vs in Christ Iesus and of our reconciliation with God through him And this is the faith which one speaketh of in a certaine place to one that would haue beene esteemed Iam. 2.18.19.20 and no doubt esteeming of himselfe too as if he had that speciall peculiar faith which only the Lords redeemed haue Shew me saith he thy faith by thy works and I will shew thee my faith by my workes Thou hast faith I graunt thee and dost beleeue but what that there is one God well yea and one Lord Iesus Christ also and one holy spirit and one faith and one baptisme yea and one Church purchased and sanctified by the bloud of the Lord Iesus Christ And dost thou beleeue all these things indeed thou dost well but I tell thee the diuell doth beleeue it also and doth tremble for one may haue faith though not that speciall faith nor yet the fruites that follow the same One may by faith cast out diuels and that in the name of Christ Iesus Mat. 7.22.23 and do many great wonders and yet a worker of iniquity What then Obiection doth not man liue by his faith alone doth works make his faith aliue Answere Man doth liue by his faith alone Heb. 10.38 Haba 2.4 yea the iust man and his faith doth make his works aliue as the branches of a Tree receiue their sappe and life from the roote But you will say Obiection what faith is this you meane are there many kindes of faith and the Scripture saith one faith one baptisme and so Answere The Scriptures meane one faith to life Ioh. 3.15 and one baptisme to life as it saith Whosoeuer beleeueth in him shall not be confounded and that whosoeuer beleeueth in him shall not perish but haue eternall life And againe whosoeuer beleeueth and is baptised Mar. 16.16 shall be saued What then will you say is there a faith and baptisme which men may haue perish Yea for Iudas beleeued and was baptised Act. 8.13 Simon Magus beleeued and was baptised and many thousand more which yet shall be found the workers of iniquity Obiection You will say then what faith is that that you meane may it be distinguisht from the other It may But first Answer I will tell you what I take the word faith to meane as it is wrought in men in generall respecting God It is an vndoubted perswasion wrought in the heart by the force and power of the holy Ghost in the reuelation of the worde of God of the truth of all or some or any of the things thereby reuealed for faith is the ground of thinges hoped for Heb. 11.1 and also the euidence of the thinges not seene By faith men vnderstand that there is onely one God that the world was created by his word By faith men beleeue that whatsoeuer hath beene said or done in the world by God his seruants his Prophets and Apostles are all true and were done by the power of God yea by faith men haue and doe worke wonders themselues As all these things may be vnderstoode and done by faith and yet such beleeuers and workers for all their faithfulnesse may goe to hell So there is a mysterie reuealed that whosoeuer doth beleeue shall not perish but shall haue eternall life Esa 61.1.2.3 that is to say a word of great grace and mercy giuen out a couenant of life and peace of pardon and deliuerance made to the poore and broken in heart Mat. 11.5.28 Mat. 15.24 the weary and heauie loaden the lost sheepe the hungry and thirsty the contrite and broken spirited euen to him that doth repent And none can beleeue this word and promise of life and pardon assuredly to pertain vnto themselues but these alone And of this seeker alone is God found to him doth he looke for his sonnes sake the Mediator of his couenant Mat. 5.3 and doth write him blessed and doth assure him pardon and reconciliation by his promised spirit whereby he is sealed and hath set to his seale that God is true and is fully assured that God is true and is fully assured that God loueth him in Christ Iesus and that his name is written in the booke of life And this is faith also which doth beleeue this thing and this is the thing that doth distinguish betweene it and the other and this faith if you wil that I shall define in few wordes It is a full and certaine perswasion wrought in the poore and broken heart by the comforter of peace and reconciliation with God in and through Christ Iesus his Lord and this is the faith which worketh by loue and this is that peculiar faith spoken of before and is but one was euer the same Nowe concerning that one Baptisme a little more As in the olde time there was Circumcision of the skinne and Circumcision of the heart but the Circumcision of the heart was the onely chiefe Circumcision which whosoeuer had was onely
They were strict in all small common things but the weightie matters they left vndone mercy and iudgement they ought to haue looked into 1. ●win 11.31 Mat. 5.7 which proueth men blessed as it is written If you would iudge your selues you should not be iudged And blessed are the mercifull for they shall obtaine mercy But you say Obiection A man may be borne againe to you though he be not borne againe to God for we iudge as farre as we see by his fruits If we iudge him worthy of baptisme he is then borne againe to me you say I pray you is there one new birth to you Answere and another to God will ye haue a man borne againe and againe will ye haue two regenerations one to you and another to God one essentiall another in shew Ioh. 3.3 The Lord saith Except a man be borne againe meaning once of water and the holy Ghost he cannot enter into the Kingdome of God Not twice once to you and once to God But you iudge as far you see you say but why iudge you farther then you see tell me that For you say without exception that all those whom you haue rebaptised are reborne of repentance and of the holy Ghost Mat. 3.11 according to the meaning of the Scriptures And yet you say that some of these may fall away and perish for euer Is it possible that a man may bee borne of God and perish for euer It is as possible the word of God should perish which saith blessed and holy are they that haue their parts in the first resurrection for they shall not be hurt of the second death Reu. 20.6 I beleeue that some of those whom you affirme borne againe shall perish for you affirme you know not what If ye were guided by God and his trueth which is his word you would not affirme any man to be borne of God except ye were sure of it verily nor yet deny any to be borne of God except ye were as sure they are not But you boldly affirme some to be borne againe which are not and as boldly denie many that are in that you iustifie your selues and exclude all others from beeing to you borne againe Wisedome if you had harkened vnto her Pro. 2.4.5.6.7.8.9 would haue taught you to haue iudged better For she giueth great vnderstanding to her children both sound and sure They doe not iustifie that which shee condemneth nor condemne that which shee iustifieth Neither dare her children condemne though shee condemne except she reueale it vnto them nor yet iustifie though she iustifie except shee declare it vnto them But if she reueale it then they dare speake Joh. 20.23 Mat. 18.18 and what they say is done what they bind is bound and what they loose is loosed But this error of yours doth arise from this false ground which you haue laid namely that no one may be baptised that is not first a new creature reborne of the spirit and sealed therewith vpon which ground also do almost all your other errors depend but I think it is sufficiently proued already that baptisme hath beene administred by Christ and his Apostles to many Disciples who were not born again yet because I will make it more plaine I will set downe some more examples for that purpose It is written Act. 20.41 As many as gladly receiued the word were baptised It is written againe the thornie ground receiued the word with ioy therefore the thornie ground was baptised It is euident also that the stonie ground was baptised Mat. 13. All these were or might be baptised and the high-way-side also for they both receiued the word in their hart And who is not glad of that which he receiueth in his heart And it is cleere as day but that men will be so wilfully blind that people were baptised presently as soone as they did beleeue and receiue the word to be a truth without any further testimonie of other fruits as appeareth by the Iayler Act. 16.33 who was presently baptised with all that did belong vnto him And who is so blind so much as to thinke that they were all instantly borne againe but he that neuer knew what it is to be borne againe I dare boldly say here are ten thousand in England that doe beleeue more Acts. 8.13 then the most of the Iaylers houshold did beleeue And what did Simon Magus beleeue more then the Gospell to bee truth and many thousand moe that were baptised by the Apostles themselues Actes 2. But if you did vnderstand one thing which was done by the Apostles you should easily bee deliuered of this error And that is this There was a second supplie made by the Apostles after the first preaching of the Gospel and baptising them whereby they were refined and purified such of them as in whom the first seed of the word tooke deepe root as appeareth by Peter and the Church of Samaria who were baptised of the holy Ghost by the laying on of the hands of the Apostle after they had beleeued and were baptised by Philip. Actes 8.17 Others also that came to the Apostles who had beleeued and beene baptised were afterwards baptised of the holy Ghost in the name of Iesus Actes 19.5 6. And this is it which the Scripture intendeth which saith Mark 16.16 whosoeuer beleeueth and is baptised shall be saued meaning by baptisme there the baptisme of repentance and of the holy Ghost As if the Lord had saide whosoeuer beleeueth the truth of the Gospel and is regenerate shall be saued Baptisme cannot be vnderstood in that place of earthly water for then Simon Magus must needes be saued for he beleeued and was Baptised with that water And also another time there came Certaine Disciples to the Lord asking him who shouldbe the greatest in the Kingdome of heauen The Lord answered them to this effect Doe you come to aske me who is the greatest in the kingdome of heauen Matth. 18. and your selues are not so much as entred into it yet Meaning by the kingdome of heauen that little spirituall house whose vessels are all of gold and siluer where is ioy in the holy Ghost and great rest and peace not that great house which is before described for in that house they were already The Lord takes a little child and sets in the middest of them I tell you saith he though you doe beleeue the truth of my word and are baptised and be my Disciples yet except you become conuerted and reborne as this little child you shall not so much as enter into that kingdome of heauen wherein I bestow my secrets and greatest treasure Whereby it is euident as also by the other examples and many moe that might be shewed to this purpose that many did beleeue and were baptised before they were returned and became as little children contrary to your false ground Master Smith whereon dependeth the whole frame of
it the part of an humble daughter to aunswere her mother with mildnes and not disdaine And now Master Smith where you triumph and praise God you say in the end of your answer publisht against the obiections of one Master Clifton assuring your selfe of the trueth of your opinions so that neither he nor all the earth shall euer be able to wring them out of your heart and hands So and more then so I praise the Lord my God for that he hath assisted me against you and your lies and I haue receiued so much more assurance of the trueth of that which I haue written vnto you then you haue of that which you haue said as there is difference betweene a truth and a lie And I boldly in the name of my Lord and for his chosen sake chalenge not all the earth but you and all or any one of your company to answere directly and without colloring or painting to that which hath beene said or else to subscribe vnto it according to your promise Though these things be not ratified by you nor written in your bookes yet behold they are true and although they be but few and goe but simple yet they shall stand and be had in honour when much and many things shall faile not that I presume vppon the strength of mine owne arme for it is like a broken bow but my strength is the Lord and in him I will reioyce and that hee hath written my name in his booke of life for which grace and all other his mercies his name be praised for euer AMEN And thus Master Smith I thought Good to write vnto you and to the company with you of whom I haue great hope God wil deliuer them frō the errors and distractions of these times and that others falles will driue you to looke better about you and although I haue beene somewhat bould with you yet I pray you take it not in the euill part for truly God is my record that for his truthes sake and for his childrens sakes and for your sakes haue I written that you and we and all might perceiue the trueth and walke therein and for no other respect and howsoeuer these things may seeme strange vnto you yet if you consider them well you shall finde them not so strange as true And although those little ones be now more rare and more seldome seene then the truth in the fielde yet that which hath beene saide of them is true And let vs not labour any longer to cut and fashion the truth like our selues but let vs studie and striue to become our selues both in vnderstanding and in doing like the truth Let vs not deceiue our selues with shadowes for they fly away but let vs take hold of the su bstance and roote it selfe which is able to defend vs in the stormy day let vs stoope and put on the yoake of the Lord for he was meeke and of a lowly heart his dwelling was among the little ones and the least was the greatest with him yea he tasted his teares with them and wept also for those whose hearts could not affoord a teare for themselues hee sought out that which was lost and the broken did he binde vp This was our Lord let vs learne of him and these were his companions and on earth his dearest friends But now alacke where are these litle ones become Doe the high looke of these proud times make them ashamed to shewe their cast-downe eye Oh come forth ye habitation of the Lord althogh indeed there boldnesse may make you blush and shew your face for we haue heard that he which is with you is greater then he that is with them And what is the cause they are so seldome seene this day One thing is they are few Another thing is they that sought them mist the way that ledde to their Tents They sought them vpon the Mountaines and in the drie places but they were in the Valleyes among the water plashes filling the Lords bottle with Teares They sought them among the great but they were of the little ones They sought them among the learned and men of great study and long experience but they were sitting among the little children weeping with the tender babes And thus they sought but found not How hard a thing it is to suppresse those harts of ours Ah let vs teare them in peeces and intreat the Lord with thousand of teares to dissolue the drowsie fatnes that droppeth vpon them that we may find the way to the dwellings of his little ones where also his owne habitation is and see and enter into his Kingdome of heauen where also we may behold these his brethren and loue them and be knowne and loued of them whereby we shal all know that our names are written in the booke of life These things let vs striue for it is time now we should be established in the truth and not be carried about still with euery winde Let vs build vpon the Rocke and then though the floods come and the winde blow our building shall stand we haue pretended Discipline and Gouernement a great while but where is he that is corrected Where is the man that hath crucified the world to himselfe and himselfe to the world and hath mortified the flesh with the workes thereof Pharisees and Hypocrites can make cleane the out-side but let vs make cleane that which is within Wolues oftentimes goe in Sheepes skinnes but Sheepe neuer in Wolues skinnes There is a Controuersie this day in the world where Christ should be whereof he hath also foretold vs saying Many shal come in my name and say here is Christ and there but beleeue them not One saith I am the first and I haue beene of olde I haue kept the saith and haue not erred to this day Another saith Nay thou liest thou hast lost the faith and hast erred from the right way and art become a Cage of vncleane Birds this day but I haue recouered that which thou hast lost and I haue the right vse of the Word and Sacraments which thou hast polluted therefore he is here The third comes and saies Ye are both liers and Harlots and thou that spake last for thou art not gouerned by his lawes he is a King aswell as a Priest and a Prophet and therefore thou liest also but he is here with vs we haue his Ordinances and lawes and are ruled by them we haue also the word and the Sacraments in their right kind and so he is to vs a King a Priest and a Prophet The next stands vp saying Who is this that boasteth thus and reteyneth the baptisme of the Whore Must they not needes bee her children seeing they hold her baptisme sufficient and refuse to be baptised aright What Can their baptisme bee good and their Church and Gouernment nought Not possible wherefore ye are also deceiued and he cannot be in the middest of you as you suppose But hee is where Antichrist