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B20672 Truths testimony and a testimony of truths appearing in power, life, light & glory, creating, manifesting, increasing, and vindicating itself in the midst of persecution : wherein is discovered what truth is, and also a lye, who knows it and lives in it : with the authors call and conversion to the truth, his practice in it, his publishing of it, and his several tryals for the same ... : together with the particular accusations brought against him in each tryal and his answers to the same, and also the courts proceedings both by judges and juries : with an humble appeal to His Highness, Oliver, Lord Protector, as a general redress for all people / by Richard Coppin. Coppin, Richard, fl. 1646-1659. 1655 (1655) Wing C6105 74,193 93

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one to another is but an Image of what it is in and from God to man so Christ himself in a humane appearance as he was man though he had in him the fulness of the Godhead yet was he but an Image of the invisible God Col. 1.15 or the Eternal Being of the Godhead in its Divine state And all Images are to pass away and be removed day by day 1 Cor. 7 31. For the fashion of this world passeth away and whatsoever passes away must in that state of mortality be a lye in opposition to that which is immortal and true because it abides not always the same but is changeable And as a thing made cannot know that which made it so a lye cannot know the truth nor speak the truth but as it is in the truth no longer known to be a lye but the truth it self 1 Cor. 2.11 As nothing therefore but God who is a Spirit knows God so nothing but the truth knows the truth nor can speak the truth and if any thing of truth be spoken between man and man Mat. 10.20 it is the truth it self that speaks it self through its own image for what one man speaks to another in words is but an Image of the same Being spoken to man by the truth in silence for the word in the sound is but an Image of what is before spoken in the mind all the writings of men in the letter is but an Image of the writings of God in the heart and Spirit So the Scripture called the Word of God which are but the writings of men in an outward testimony John 1.1 2. is but an Image of the true Word Christ that spoke before in them that writ it and witnessed to the word by that which is written 1 Iohn 2 3 4 for what the Word of God to wit Christ speaks in men that man speaks and writes again to men Rom. 1.20 For what we have seen and heard we declare unto you saith Paul and all things in the world visible is but an Image of God Psal 51.6 or the things invisible and so all things as made is but an Image of it self as unmade Adam was first formed then Eve 1 Tim. 2 13 14. and the woman taken out of man is but the Image and glory of the man and lives not but in the man therefore while she abides in the Image and is not the same with the thing imaged she abides in a lye and is in the transgression So in like manner all mankind with the whole creation as coming out of God is but an Image of God as the Son is of the Father and as the woman is of the man and lives not but in God the Father that sends them forth from himself as an Image of himself and as it abides in the Image 1 Iohn 2.27 28. and not in him that made it so it abides in the lye and in the transgression and if any would know the truth in the love of the truth to speak it and live in it they must wait to be taken up in the understanding into that which is the truth as Christ was and therein cease in themselves to stand any longer in the Image but in the substance as Christ did when he did ascend from the Son to the Father and so must become the same with the truth in the truth it self before they can know what the truth is in the understanding of it 2 Cor. 5 1● Isa 42.16 I n 2. Ephes 1.10 so in the chang of all things in man the woman becomes the man or weakness becomes strength darkness becomes light death becomes life and a lye the truth when the truth hath had its perfect work in making all things free in turning water into wine and bringing all things together in one for the truth is not without a lye 1 Cor. 11.11 12. the man is not without the woman nor the woman without the man in the Lord So not God without us nor we without him in the truth which truth comprehends Father Son and Spirit will wisdom and power variety in unity and unity in variety the Creator and the creature and so God himself who is the truth in Jesus who is one and all is himself the way in which all men should walk the truth which all men should practice Col. 2.6 and the life which all men should live with Christ in God manifest in flesh as he is God in union with man and man in union with God loving all men as himself doing for all men as for himself which should be the whole life of all men one to another Matth. 5 44 45. living in the truth as it is in Jesus even to walk in him as their path live in him as their life and so to follow his steps in the Lord Jesus Ephes 5.1 2. Acts 17.26 1 Ioh. 10.11 hating none speaking evil of none persecuting none but to be friendly loving kind and merciful to all as flesh of their flesh and bone of their bone being all of one blood and so to forgive one another as God in Christ hath forgiven them And he who goes any other way practises any other thing 2 Cor. 5.18 19. Iohn 14.8 1 Iohn 1.6 7 8. lives any other life then that which is God living in them and all men reconciling the whole world to himself by Jesus Christ the way the truth and the life is so far a lyar and the truth is not in him O how few are there that live this life of God in Christ to be reconciled to all men though enemies love all men though enemies be at peace with all men though enemies and to do for all men as they would do for themselves and as they would others should do unto them why very few yet live in the truth to practise it though most men profess it Therefore all men who live not in the truth are lyars and live in the filthy abomination of the lye as in sin death hell and damnation wrath envy hatred malice persecution revenge and all the works of iniquity and must be taken up into the truth and so cast into the lake of fire burning with brimstone there to be purged from all their uncleanness and filthy abomination Rev. 21 8. that hath defaced the Image of God as to men before they can be lovers of God or the truth and cease from persecuting one another All things while it abides in the Image being there in a prison and in darkness is an enemy to the thing imaged because it represents it not perfectly or as it is in Jesus the thing made is an enemy to that which makes it the creature to the Creator Isa 5.9.4 5 6 c. man to God for all men as men and sinners so remaining are haters of God and do oppose the truth in the manifestation But the more truth is opposed
was called The Word of God Rev. 19 11 12 13. and not that the Scriptures were so called And let not us rob God of that honour and title due unto himself to give to the Scripture but what the Scripture saith both of God and it self that let us say also The Scripture also saith 1 Cor. 3.6 Iohn 14.19 Rom 10.8 that the Letter kills but the Spirit gives life which spirit is the Word and the Word is Christ I am come that you may have life saith Christ and because I live ye shall live also And this Word even Christ is nigh us in us yea round about us still teaching of us and giving life unto us which is the work of Christ and not the Scripture But this I will say of the Scripture which is what the Scripture saith of it self that it is an outward testimony of God his mind Christ the Word Faith and Eternal Life Heaven and Salvation to those that do believe but not that it self is either of all these or can give unto us the knowledge of it and that we might know the insufficiency of it Ioh. 9.39.40 Christ in it bids us search the Scriptures for saith he in them you think to have eternal life and they are they which testifie of me and ye will not come to me that ye may have life Yet this Scripture as it is given by inspiration so it is profitable for doctrine 2 Tim. 3.16 17. for reproof for correction and instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished to all good works and not as it lies in the letter but as it is inspired revealed or made manifest in our hearts and minds by the Holy Ghost for saith the Lord I will put my law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and I will be their God and they shall be my people Ier. 31.33 34. and cause them to walk in my statutes of loving one another And the Word of God being once written in our hearts it is then profitable for us to teach reprove correct and instruct us make us perfect in the inward man furnish us fit and qualifie us with gifts and graces unto all good works and no otherwise can it do it for us but as it is within us And this is the honour and praise that I will give to the Word of God and to the Scripture to sum it all up in God in whom I desire to know to live to act and enjoy all things of God and I desire not to speak think act or maintain any thing that I have not the letter for as well as the Spirit the truth and mystery of which letter no man knows till he hath it revealed to him by the Spirit and Internal Word that declares the Father plainly which so far as it speaks in me Mat. 11.27 and declares the mind of God to me I shall not be silent And now my Lord I give you many thanks that you have so patiently heard me and given me liberty to speak for my self Yet before I depart I shall desire to present one Scripture more which I shall but onely read and so leave it to the consideration of this honourable Court Said the Judge I thought you had done Answ If your Lordship desire it I have Said the Judge Nay but we will hear your Scripture Answ It is in the sixth of the Acts from the 8. verse to the end And Steven full of faith and power did great wonders and miracles among the people then there arose certain of the Synagogue which is called the Synagogue of the Libertines Cyreneans Alexandrians and of them of Cilicia and of Asia disputing with Steven and they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake then they suborned men which said we have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses and against God and they stirred up the people and the Elders and the Scribes and came upon him and caught him and brought him to the Councel and set up false witnesses Acts 6.12 which said This man ceaseth not to speak blasphemous words against this holy place and the Law for we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place and shall change the Customs which Moses delivered us and all that sate in the Counsel looked stedfastly on him saw his face as it had been the face of an Angel And now I shall take my leave according as the Apostles in times past have done who when they had suffered for the name of Christ they departed from the presence of the Council rejoycing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name so shall I at this time and as daily in the temple and in every house Acts 5.41 42. they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ so shall not I my Lord cease to do the same so far as God shall enable me and so I take my leave of your Lordship And paying the fees of the Court I was discharged for that time CHAP. IX The Authors second appearing at Worcester before Judge Nicholes and the proceedings thereof also his being bound from thence to Oxford how and for what ANd I standing bound until the next Assizes at Worcester which was then six moneths to come my accusers Ralph Nevil and Giles Collier in the mean time imployed men on purpose to follow me from place to place where they heard I preached or came to enquire into my Doctrine Life and Conversation with endeavours to get something more against me to accuse me at the next Assizes following as my self and several persons well knew And they hearing of some difference in dispute that was between some Ministers and my self at Enstone in Oxfordshire where I had before been and preached they came to an Inn in Enston and sent for the Ministers that differed with me of whom they got a certificate of some particulars which they said I there delivered and which they counted blasphemy And when I appeared at Worcester next Assizes before Judge Nicholes my accusers gave to the Judge their certificate which was as follows First That I should say Christ ayed for his own sins as well as the Peoples Secondly That there was no heaven and hell but what was in man Thirdly That everlasting life should end in this life But no witness sworn to it And my accusers having no witness there they with many fair speeches used to the Judge desired him to bind me to appear at the next General Assizes holden at Oxford to answer to what was in this their certificate and what more they in the mean time could find against me For said they to the Judge that being his own Countrey we shall there by that time get something more against him And the Judge willing to do my accusers a pleasure against me as Festus did the Jews against Paul when he left him bound
the Virgin Mary and crucified at Jerusalem though he be not yet so fully manifested to and in all men Rom. 8.29 as he was to and in him he being the first born among many brethren or the first appearance of humane nature in whom God did so fully and manifestly appear to be living moving acting and bringing forth himself in the manifestation of his love in power life light and glory yet that God is in all and all are in him as also saith the Scripture for in him we all live move Acts 17.28 Ephes 4.6 and have our being and there is one God and Father of all who is above all through all and in all both in Jews Gentiles Heathens Pagans Turks Infidels or whatsoever else they may be called and there is no difference or respect of persons with God but in the manifestation of this to themselves which none can have till the Holy Ghost even the Spirit of truth comes upon them as it did on him and reveal it to them as it did to him which he hath promised that in due time shal come and bring all things to their remembrance there is no man but hath God in him yea the same God that Christ had though not the same measure of knowledge and understanding till Christ in them hath revealed it And that the Gentiles might come to know this Paul prays for them that they might be strengthned with all might in the inner man that is with all God to comprehend with all Saints what is the bredth Eph. 3.16 17 18 19. and length and depth and heighth and to know the love of Christ which passeth knowledge that they might be filled with all the fulness of God even as Christ was to have in them the same mind the same love life and light and so be filled with the same fulness of grace and glory whereby they come unto a perfect man unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ to know that as he was so are we in this world and therefore it is no blasphemy to say that God may be as much in them as in Christ considered as a man though it do not yet appear so to them Eph. 4.13 1 Ioh 4.17 as in due time it may and will when God shall be more revealed to them and they more enjoy him in the manifestation Fifthly That the day of judgement was began sixteen hundred years ago Answ My Lord according to Scripture acceptation it was so Iohn 12.13 for said Christ Now is the Iudgement of this world now shall the Prince of this world be cast out Iohn 9 39. and for Iudgement am I come into this world said Christ that they which see not might see and that they which see might be made blind and this coming of Christ to Judgement according to the Scripture was above sixteen hundred years past and yet is continued to this day though most men are blind and yet see it not which some shall so long as they have eyes of their own to see and ears of their own to hear till they see with the Lords eye and hear with the Lords ear and the Apostle also said that the time was then come 1 Pet. 4.17 that Iudgement must begin at the House of God even with righteous men or men under any form of Religion that had any thing of their own righteousness to trust in besides Christ their righteousness That this day of Judgement did then begin we find for so soon as he was but ascended and had led captivity captive he sent the holy Ghost the Comforter Ioh. 16.7.8 even the spirit of truth which should convince the world of sin of righteousness and of judgement and so bring all things to mans remembrance destroying all that is a lye in man by the spirit of Judgement and of burning when he shall appear to sit in man his Temple as a refiner and purifyer of gold and silver Mal 3.3 to purge out all dross sin and corruption and to make man a vessel holding nothing but righteousness peace and joy which work of Judgement was then begun with some coming on to others and is not ended to this day with all neither will so long as sin is in the world raigning in any creature and till we see sin and transgression finished in us as no more to be imputed to us 1 Cor. 15.24 c. we see not an end of the day of Judgement with us till we see Christ to have opened the prison doors broken all bonds put all enemies under his feet set us at liberty and delivered up the Kingdom to the Father that God may be all in all and so much for the day of Judgement that it was began sixteen hundred years ago according to the Scriptures Sixthly That there was no general day of Iudgement Answ My Lord I know no other day of Jodgement as to me then what I have already declared to your Lordship which is to be the same with every creature before it can be finished and this may be said to be A general day wherein all men are to appear before Christ to be Judged by him in love for the time is come c. And though this time of Judgement may be called a day yet this day may be thousands of years before all the world in every man may be Judged all sin and transgression finished as to them and they all set free in the Lord 2 Pet. 3.8 For one day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day and did men once taste and feel of the workings of God in and upon their souls in manifesting his love to them for the taking away of sin and transgression from them they would then be satisfied touching this day of the Lord which for my part I am already satisfied in and therefore cannot but declare it and bear witness to it as that which is truth to me and according to the Scriptures and they that know any other let them declare that as I have declared this Seventhly That there was no heaven but in man Answ My Lord Those words do not say there is none at all but that it is in man yet without confinement and this the Scripture also declares therefore if we would know where heaven is let us first know what it is and the Scripture tells us that the Kingdom of heaven is Righteousness Rom 14.17 peace and joy in the holy Ghost and that it is within us for when the Scribes and Pharises came to Christ to demand of him when the Kingdom of God should come as men still do he answered them that The Kingdom of God cometh not with observations neither shall they say lo here or lo there for behold the Kingdom of God is within you and where should the Kingdom of Christ which is a Kingdom of righteousness peace and joy appear to be
directly under the Act of blasphemy in every particular point it could not be found as blasphemy who himself call'd for the Act and comparing it with the Indictment found it not as the Jury had said to be within the Act for blasphemy for which he reproved them repeating the words of the Act to them which was as follows Judge He that shall avowedly affirm and maintain there is no heaven and hell its blasphemy by that Act but that he doth not say but doth acknowledge there is a heaven and hell in man as you see him prove and therefore doth not affirm there is none at all and words spoken by way of private conference in discourse as the witnesses do confess this was it might be only spoken by way of Proposition or Querie to try the Judgements of others and not as his own judgement and then cannot be said to be avowed and affirmed therefore not within the Act however he shall continue bound till the next Assizes to discharge the Law as said the Judge Then I desired liberty to speak a little more before I departed from the Court which was as follows CHAP. VIII The Speech made to the Judge after the Tryal to vindicate his own and other mens preaching without a call from the Vniversity wherein is a true discovery of the word of God and the Scripture what it is Of his taking his leave of the Court. MY Lord I have here been maliciously and falsly persecuted by my adversaries as hath appeared before the Court this day and now is the law open on my behalf against all that have falsly appeared against me but he that is my Teacher teaches me no such thing as to seek revenge but freely to forgive my enemies to love them that hate me and so leave all things to him who will reward every man according to his works For vengeance is mine and I will repay saith the Lord. And the reason why those men do thus persecute me is for the malice they have against me for exercising these gifts that God hath given me for his glory the comfort of my soul and benefit of his people which gifts they know not because they know not him neither will they hear him but speak evil of the things that are taught by him when without him we know nothing Mat. 11.27 and are taught nothing according as it is written That no man knows the Son but the Father nor no man knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son shall reveal him So the true knowledge of God is not taught of man Gal. 1 12.15 16. nor by men but comes onely by the revelation of Jesus Christ as that which is most hated by men And when it pleased God to reveal his Son in me as he did in Paul I with him conferred not with flesh and blood as those men do that is I went not to this or that place as unto men to receive orders from them and to know before hand what I should have for my preaching as other men do and have done but I went immediately declaring the things I had seen and heard from the Lord wheresoever I was desired and what I did was freely and in love to the Lord Jesus and his people without any price or reward of men when others who have their gifts from men will look to be rewarded by men and good reason too that men should sell what they buy But those mens gifts are bought therefore do they sell them as other Trades-men do for their own advantage for if they can have but five or ten pound more in another Parish they will leave the one for the other and yet no longer then they pay them will they preach to them without going to Law with them which sh●ws that they preach not in love to the Lord Jesus and his people but in love to that which the people have and so seek not them but theirs when I for my part in all my practice of preaching hitherto have not sought theirs but them 2 Cor. 12.14 15. and would gladly spend and be spent for them to do them good as they will be ready to testifie And for this am I hated and persecuted by them that know me not nevertheless I cannot but speak the things that I have been taught of the Lord for as every man hath received the gift so let them administer one to another and What is revealed an secret shall be published upon the house tops saith the Lord and this shall I do if God permit The Judge said And you do well in so doing for you may preach wheresoever you are desired so long as you keep close to the word of God and make that to be your rule I answered my Lord I thank you and I shall do so But what do you call the Word of God Said the Judge the Scripture is the Word of God I answered that the Scripture as written in ink and paper is not the Word of God but a dead letter which in the reading and hearing thereof tells us onely in the ear what the Word of God is but cannot teach or tell the mind neither doth it any where say for it self that it self is the Word of God that can teach us but that we are all taught of the Lord who is himself the Word the Unction the Holy one and anointing within us therefore let us not give more honour to the Scripture then the Scripture takes to it self but let honour be given to whom honour is due and glory to whom glory is due and in this we shall give all unto God who is himself the true Word and Teacher as the Scripture declares him to be for saith John In the beginning was the Word Iohn 1.1 2. and the Word was with God and the word was God the same was in the beginning with God and this Word became flesh and dwelt among us that it might teach us all things and saith John we behold the glory of him Verse 14. as the glory of the onely begotten Son of God full of grace and truth which is not the Scripture as written in the Letter but God written in our flesh is this Word Again secondly the Scripture tells us that the word of God is quick Heb. 4.12 and powerful sharper then any two-edged sword peircing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit and of the joynts and marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart And this the Scripture cannot do but God himself as the Scripture tells us for it saith That he is the searcher of the heart and the tryer of the reins and the divider asunder of soul and spirit and discerns the thoughts and intents of mens hearts and so the searcher and tryer of all things as saith the Scripture Again thirdly the Scripture tells us of Christs riding upon a white horse conquering and to conquer and that his name
stood and measured the earth he beheld and drove asunder the Nations and the everlasting mountains were scattered the perpetual hills did bow that is the mountains of fear sin death the Devil and mens pretended holiness heaven and happiness which is filthiness when out of its place Psalm 64.6 this shall all be scattered and melt before the Lord as mountains standing between the Lord and us and as so many false gods in the way of the true God which hath been said to last for ever yet these shall pass away and be removed out of their places into no place but fly away from the face of him that sits upon the throne whose name is called Faithful and true and that reigns himself for ever and ever world without end And thus one life ends in another life the life of the old man in the life of the new man or we changed from life to life from glory to glory from one everlasting to another til we can change no more Rev 20.11 which shews that there are more changes then one and more everlastings then one as to men and so more lives then one which men are said to live and be changed from till they are changed from all things into God which is their last change A word of Conclusion to the Iudge AND now lastly I cannot but add a few words more and therein affirm both before God and men that ever since I knew any thing of God my whole design both in writing speaking and walking according to the utmost of my power received of God hath ever been and I hope ever shall be still to set forth the glory of God the advancement of Christs Kingdom peace and righteousness among men and the throwing down of Antichrist the Devil and his Kingdom with all deceivableness and unrighteousness of men and whatsoever else is and hath been contrary to the publike peace of this Nation under which we should be protected and no longer do I desire or shall endeavour to write or speak a word then that it should not tend to this even the advancement of the Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ without partiality or aiming at any private or self-interest of my own or an● others distinct but for the publike good of all men whom I desire and do still endeavour in love to serve being made willing to spend and be spent for them notwithstanding the many reproaches revilings and persecutions I meet withal yet still that I would continue a faithful servant to the truth in all things by which I am made free to serve in love and for which I am not only ready to be bound but to suffer All which particulars according to your Lordships desire I do most humbly present you with before this honourable Court and so leave them to your consideration to do as the Lord of heaven and earth shall direct you who works all things according to the counsel of his own will and will glorifie himself in all things that himself doth And now what shall I say more why let the Lords will be done whether in life or death in freedom or imprisonment according to his own will and pleasure be it into whose blessed arms of mercy love joy and peace I do freely give up my self and shall for ever lodge in his bosom of life and salvation there to rest and abide for ever While I was making my answer my accusers with many others of their consorts did all the time of my pleading interrupt me urging many things to me to insnare me and to incense the Judge and Jury against me till the Judge reproved them for it who after he had heard my answer and understanding it knowing it also not to come within the compass of any late Act of Parliament and withal perceiving the malice of my enemies did as the Lord had directed him who before the petty Jury went forth to consult upon their verdict who understood it not themselves neither what they had to do in such a business being all ignorant men both of the Law and of such things acquainted them with the truth of the business that so Justice and Equity might take place whose directions were according to what follows Judge You of the Jury you have heard the evidence and you have heard the answer of his defence which if what he hath said to us be his meaning it is very good and what I believe my self to be truth and we are to take his sense and meaning upon the words and not anothers the words being his own but should we take the very express words of the Indictment without a qualification of them yet it comes not under the Law or Act of Parliament according to the rule of which Act we are to go as for the first thing that he should say Christ dyed for his own sins it comes not neer it though indeed the second concerning heaven and hell comes something neer it yet not so neer as to be found within the compass of it for the Act saith if a man avow and affirm that there is no heaven and hell but that he doth not and this also was by way of dispute or conference after Sermon as you see the witnesses to the Bill do confess and what is said in dispute cannot be said to be avowed and affirmed for it may fall in by way of an Argument c. And as to the last words that everlasting life should end in this life there is nothing mentioned in the Act against it therefore we are not to meddle with it and you are not to bring him in guilty for any thing he is here indicted it being not within the compass of the Act. And thus with other words to that purpose did the Judge speak to the Jury before they gave in their verdict which none that heard it but thought it had been sufficient to have satisfied any honest Jury in the world had they been but rational men yet it satisfied not these for they malitiously brought me in guilty who were prompt to it by my accusers and others that followed them forth of the Court contradicting the words of the Judge saying that they were not to take notice of what the Judge had said neither of my answer but the Bill Being asked the reason why they brought me in guilty they said they could do no less they were so followed by the Priests from place to place and importuned to it that they could be at no quiet for them unless they did it A wise Jury to be sworn and then swayed by other men but this they did to do the Priests a pleasure against me as Festus did to do the Jews a pleasure against Paul Acts 25.9 Then the Judge examined them what crime they found me guilty of they answered they could not tell what but according to the evidence then said the Iudge doth the thing evidenced come within the compass of the Act who again caused