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A96470 Plain truth vvithout feare or flattery: or a true discovery of the unlawfulnes of the Presbyterian government, it being inconsistent with monarchy, and the peoples liberties; and contrary both to the Protestation and Covenant. The end of establishing the militia of London in such hands as it is now put into by the new ordinance. The betraying votes, and destructive practises, of a trayterous party in the House of Commons, concerning certain pettions [sic] for liberty and justice. Also a vindication of his Excellency Sir Thomas Fairfax concerning certain scurrulous words uttered by some of the said faction. VVith the meanes and wayes that must be used to obtain reliefe against the said tyrannous usurpers; and for reducing the Parliament to its due rights, power and priviledges, in the preservation of the kingdomes lawes and liberties / VVritten by Amon VVilbee. Wilbee, Amon.; Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657. 1647 (1647) Wing W2112; Thomason E516_7; ESTC R204095 30,871 22

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seeke out what the good will of the Lord is concerning his Church and worship what order and rule he hath prescribed and left us by his owne Sonne in the Gospell Doth not God the Father say This is my beloved Sonne heare * not the Scots nor the Priests him Marke 9. 7. And is it not written And Moses truly said unto the Fathers A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you like unto me him shall ye heare in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you * marke tremble all yee Priests Presbyterians and it shall come to pass that every soule which shall not heare that Prophet shall be destroyed from among the people Acts 3. 22 23. And doubtless Christ who was a Sonne was not less faithfull in Gods house then Moses who was a servant And againe Yee have a sure word saith the Apostle unto which yee doe well to take heed 2 Pet. 1. 19. Yet doe these presumptuous men despise this command of God and neglect this sure word hearken to their owne corrupt humours take heed to their owne ambitious covetuous desires and so proceed in dispight of God and his Christ to erect a government after their owne inventions But they will tell you that the Assembly have searched the Scriptures and had respect to the word in framing this government I beleeve they have but as the Devill did to make use of them for his owne ends against Christ for they did not search to find what government it was the Gospell did hold out and warrant and propound and promote that But they first resolve upon and propound such a government as will serve their purpose and then they apply themselves to make it good by Scriptures or to enforce the Scriptures for a warrant thus have they made their forme of Church-government the rule of Gods word and not Gods word a rule to their forme of government having done no otherwise then many Atournies and Clearkes doe who often draw Declarations and writings by another mans president or patterne without examining or consulting the Law in the case which is just as if a Taylor should first make a Suit and then make use of his measure And grant that this Presbyteriall government be according to the word of God is it so in toto Is it so absolute that there is no degree of Reformation above it if so then the Scots have exceedeed that grand planter of Churches Saint Paul for he told the Corinthians That he would yet shew them a more excellent way Cor. 12. 31. And that wee know but in part and prophecy but in part but when that which is perfect is come that which is imperfect shall be abolished 1 Cor. 13. 9 10. And Saint Peter and the Prophets spake of a new heaven and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness Of such a beautifull and perfect Reformation and change as if it was a new world 2 Peter 3. 13. and Esay 64. 17. I hope no proud Priest or Presbyterian dare affirme that there is yet any such Reformation or change in Scotland righteousness dwelleth not there I am sure and I would it was not almost banished out of England For as much then as there is a Reformation more true and excellent then theirs or else theirs is none at all why may not the Independants so called or some others approach neerer to it then they without controversie there appeares more of God and of Christ in the Independants order and waies then doth in the waies of the Presbyterians unless the Presbyterians will affirm themselves the only wise and that the Spirit of the most high God dwels only in them but then they must give me leave to aske them Saint Pauls question 1 Cor. 14. 36. Came the word of God out from you Or came it unto you only Or did the Bishops seale unto the Presbyterian Priests the holy Spirit when they sealed unto them their Ordination and so they have kept it ever since close up in a box to be brought forth in these times Truly my friends as learned Rabbies as they are they erre not knowing the Scriptures To the Law therefore and to the Testimony if they speake not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Isay 8. 20. The Devill preached truer doctrine when he said that Jesus was the Sonne of God Mat. 8. 29. then these Priests when they say that the Presbyterian government is jus divinum the law and government of Jesus Christ but this is as true as that the Church of Rome is a true Church the which they doe now * Mr. Seymour one of the Assembly affirmes it in a dispute affirme to prove their antichristian standing true And now here by the way I will occasionally put a few queries First Whether in case a forme of Church-government and worship contrary to the word of God be by force put upon us against our consciences by the Parliament and Presbyterian Assembly It be not by the same reason as lawfull for us to refuse and resist it Viet armis by force * And the rather because it is enforced by another Nation and without the Kings approbation as it was for the Scots in like manner to reject and resist the forme of Church-government and worship put violently upon them against their consciences by the King and Bishops Secondly whether the Scots ought or have any more authority or right to prescribe or endeavour an imposition of Church-government and worship upon the People of England then the People of England have to prescribe and endeavour the imposition of the like upon the People of Scotland Thirdly If not Whether the Scots goe not beyond their Last Doe not move out of their sphere and intermedle with what they ought not And now seeing there is as cannot be denyed a more high pitch of Reformation in religion and holy worship then is yet attained or discovered I hope it is no offence nor transgression against the State for any true Christian or servant of Jesus Christ to press hard after it and not to conforme himselfe to fixed formes bounds and limits thereby to confine Gods holy Spirit Yee stiffe necked and rebellious Priests of uncircumcised hearts and eares ye have alwaies resisted the Holy Ghost as your Fathers the Bishops did so doe yee Acts 7. 51. I have insisted the more upon this particular that the truth herein might be cleare be cause of the great delusion put upon the People by many of our pretending Reformers through their grand Oaths and pretexts of expelling all popery and popish innovations even whatsoever should be contrary to sound doctrine for so I understand those words in the Protestation contrary to the same doctrine and to reforme Religion according to the word of God and to establish it in the power and purity of it and yet notwithstanding apply all their interest and power to support an * If the
violence rage and raign amongst us this part of the Covenant they lifted up their hands as high to God and swore as solemnly to performe as any other but because they have no use for it they regard it not the truth is they profess they know God but in workes they deny him being abominable and disobedient and to every good worke reprobate But to speake more particularly of our own Presbyterian Reformers the Scotists of our Kingdome M. Hollis Stapleton and the rest of the zealous hipocrites with their Antichristian Priests Covenanters they sware you see my Friends to endeavour a reformation in Religion according to the word of God and the Parliament as seeming to adhere only to this sure and alone necessary and sufficient rule for reformation and not to take the bare opinions of men for granted truths without justification from the word of God to which end they long since propounded queries concerning the said government for the Assembly to prove by the word of God for the justification of it the which queries I have here inserted for every mans better information and consideration to wit First whether the Parochiall and Congregationall Elderships appointed by Ordinance of Parliament are jure divino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ Secondly Whether all the members of the said Eldership are members thereof or which of them are jure divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ Thirdly Whether the supreame Assemblyes or Elderships viz. the Classicall Provincicall and Nationall whether all or any of them or which of them are jure divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ Fourthly Whether appeales from congregationall Elderships to the Classicall provinciall and Nationall Assemblies or to any of them are jure divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ Fifthly Whether Oecumenicall Assemblies are jure divino and whether there be appeales from any of the former Assemblies to the said Oecumenicall Assemblies jure divino by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ Sixtly whether by the word of God the power of judging and declaring what are notorious and scandalous offences and of conventing before them tryall and actuall suspending from the Sacrament such offenders accordingly either in the congregationall Eldership or presbytery or in any other Eldership or presbytery Presented to the Houses as the advice of the Assembly and whether such powers are in them only or any of them and in which of them jure divino and by the will and appointment of Jesus Christ Seventhly Whether there be any cettaine and particular rules expressed in the word of God to direct the said Elderships or Presbyteries or any of them in the exercise and execution of the powers aforesaid and which are those rules Eightly is there any thing contained in the word of God that the Supreame Magistracy in a Christian State may not judge and determine what are the aforesaid notorious and scandalous offences and the manner of suspension from the same and in what particulars concerning the premises are the said Supreame Magistracy in the word of God excluded In answer of which particulars the House of Commons desired of the Assembly of divines falsly so called their proofes from Scripture and to set downe the severall texts of Scripture in the express words of the same And it was also ordered that every particular Minister of the said Assembly that was or should be Present at the debate of any of these questions should upon every resolution that was to be presented to the House concerning the same subscribe his respective name either with the affirmative or negative as he should give his vote and that they which should dissent from the major part should set downe their positive opinions with the express texts of Scriptures upon which their opinions were grounded Here you see an excellent way for the proofe of this Scotish creature prescribed and a great deale of seeming care in the Parliament to set up a Religion according to the word of God and not according to the Church of Scotland and yet though these severall queries or questions were by the fallacious Assembly never answered unto this day nor are they able to answer them satisfactorily for they can neither immediate or mediate directly or by consequence prove by the word of God and Gospell of our Lord Jesus Christ their so much pres'd Presbiterian government to be jure divine by divine Law or right as they most presumtuously and andatiously have alledged yet nevertheless although these queries were never resolved nor the Parliament ever satisfied by sufficient proofe out of the word of God of the lawfulness of this government whether it be the government of Jesus Christ or not hath this evill party whereof Mr. Hollis a man ever factious is reputed chiefe by their heady presumptuous courses to raise to themselves a faction from London and the Scots for their owne security and to drive on their owne premeditated designe of dominion and soveraignity prevailed to have it established by Ordinance enjoyning it in all places and upon all persons with as much rigour and severity as ever the Bishops did their conformity all which ye see is directly against their Covenant and no other then plaine perjury but unless they can establish this Scotish Presbiterian government they can never absolutely establish tyranny for the expedients of this Presbiterian government conduce directly unto tyranny even to abolish all rules of Law and civill liberty it is an antipathy to Monarchy and the legall power of civill Magistracy and brings under a yoak where it is predominant both King and People as shall God willing be demonstrated fully in due time and by this means these asspirers hope through the helpe of the Priests to order King Charles as the Presbiterians in Scotland did King James whom they did restraine affront disobey and raise tumults against if he prove refractory to any of their arbitrary Councels and to suppress and curb us the free Commoners that we shall not be able either to helpe him or remedy our selves Yet questionless if ye aske any of these our master Reformers if when they made and took the Covenant they did not intend to make Gods word their direct rule of Reformation They will answer yes otherwise they must confess themselves most hatefull hipocrites denying the truth and sufficiency of the holy Scriptures men that intend no Religion but a treasonable designe against King and People under that notion and I wish it doe not prove so in the end by some men If they did intend as they will not deny to make Gods word their Rule to Reforme by why doe they make the Church of Scotland the rule of their Reformation and cast the word of God behind them Why doe they enforce upon us the reformation or rather deformation of another Kingdome no waies justified or approved by the holy Scriptures and not endeavour as they have sworne sincerely to