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A49775 Hypocrisie detected or, a brief ansvver to Thomas Crisp's book. By Thomas Laurence. Let this paper be kept by Friends, and spread only as they see a service for it occasioned by Thomas Crisp's book, or otherwise. Lawrence, Thomas, 1645?-1714. 1681 (1681) Wing L685A; ESTC R221705 5,593 16

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the People of God and judge others Answ How often in thy Book hast thou passed severe Judgment on others and yet complainst of judging Thou condemnest others and dost the same things therefore thou art inexcusable Rom. 2. 3dly Let none boast of their Number and think themselves the only People of God because they are many but as the Apostle said Esteem others better than your selves Answ Art not thou a proud boaster that sayst Thou hast the Saints seal and others the Beasts mark Dost not thou esteem thy self better than others contrary to the Apostles counsel the words of Scripture which thou hast quoted against thy self 4thly Thou sayest The Kingdom of Heaven doth not consist in speaking one sort of Speech or Language or conforming to Orders or Prescriptions from without Answ Now the rottenness of thy Heart within and painted Sepulcher of deceiving Words without is manifest for thou dost not only disown the good Order of Truth which is according to Scripture but also the Language of Truth according to Scripture and ownest the World's Manners Gestures and Language Art not thou a Ranter who sayst in thy Title-page You Quakers giving some cause thereby to judge that thou art none 5thly Have not some of your side said That God will teach his People himself yet now you limit them by your Orders and Directions Ans God teacheth his People himself sometimes inwardly immediately by his spirit it self sometimes outwardly by the same spirit in his instruments so he taught by his Apostles and Ministers in the primitive Churches so he doth now in our Churches Much more might be said to Thomas Crisp's Epistle to the Reader and his own piece of stoln words but I am weary of raking in such dirty Puddles Fifthly Thou quotest Isaac Pennington first in thy second Edition now I may try how thou dealest with Isaac Pennington's second Testimony note two things first he owns outward Orders and Uniformity in the Church of Christ and saith 1. Vniformity is good and to be desired and the intent and work of the Ministry is to bring into Vnity which being kept in will come into Vniformity at length pag. 7. 2. Isaac Pennington saith The Church was clothed appearing in the beautiful and glorious Dress the Lord himself put upon her pag. 17. of thy Book Now if you seek to take away outward Order in the Church of Christ is not this to take away from her Glory 3. The Invisible state of the Church hath a Visible way of appearing to the World by the Garments that she wears openly which the Life chuseth to appear in pag. 18. Then they that are against outward Order are against the Lifes appearing in what it chuseth 4. The Form was once true until the Dragon entred pag. 19. This is Isaac Pennington's Testimony for outward Government and Order in the Church quoted by Thomas Crisp against himself that saith There is no need of any outward Government endeavouring to destory the glory and beauty of the Church Sixth Author is Edward Burroughs which is answered already Seventh is a further Testimony of a nameless Author that makes several Queries not to force People into outward Orders which is but a needless repitition of what your side of erronious Schismaticks propounded before Eighth is R. R 's Testimony Thomas Crisp why dost thou not name Robert Rich this Testimony it is like him but it may be thou art ashamed and well thou mayst for he was an Enemy to Truth and to Friends in Truth and for thee to have named him would not have been for the credit of thy Cause But your Testimonies are both alike and so are your false Schismatical Doctrines also Ninth is B. F. in a Letter to G. W. Thomas Crisp if thou dost think that G. W. is guilty of a separating lording Spirit thou mightst nay thou oughtst to have told him first before thou hadst published him in thy Book that he might have satisfied thee of his clearness in this Matter c. And as for B. F. I do not think he is of that treacherous dividing spirit as Robert Rich and thou art art of What Isaac Pennington Edward Burroughs William Penn writ zealously against outward Orders set up by false Churches out of Truth thou and thy side of unlearned and unstable men falsly apply against faithful Friends in Truth Tenth is a few words of James Naylors but he confutes thee and all thy side Why dost thou bring him first he saith They that are in the spiritual Worship of God cannot stay in any form any longer than God stayes therein Answ Then there are outward Forms that God owns and stays in them The Apostle spake against such who had the form of godliness but denyed the power thereof he said from such turn away but we do own the Power of God and the form which he hath led us into and justifies us in And what James Naylor said concerning Form to the Professors I understand to be concerning outward Shadows and Figures which are to pass away some of which was used by some in the infancy of the primitive Church Eleaventh is William Penn's Address to Protestants that are as yet carnal and not convinced of Truth and what Isaac Pennington Edward Burroughs and William Penn applyeth to the false Churches concerning outward Orders you apply to George Fox and Friends in Truth Twelfth is a Manuscript of James Naylors added by desire of a Friend Thomas Crisp thy Friend and thou have added nothing to your work but a needless repitition of words which I have spoken to and answered fully already Thirteenth is John Wilkinson and John Story 's sence concerning Womens Meetings wherein we may take notice that John Wilkinson and John Story are unconstant changeable men as appears by their suttle reserves as what their words will bear c. 1st They say We do approve of Monethly and Quarterly Meetings and that it will be our Duty to be at unity with our Brethren in the service thereof But in the first of the forty four Charges John Wilkinson declared publickly against appointing set dayes aforehand to meet and John Wilkinson was the Header of that separate Meeting in Wiltshire which they continue separate from our Quarterly and Monethly Meetings set up by the Power of God in his instruments they said They will not say they were not 2dly John Wilkinson subscribed a Paper for erecting of Womens Meetings in the Country in singleness of Heart and for unities sake but now we Why we judge there is no necessity to continue them in the Country It seems John Wilkinson had changed his Mind from singleness of Heart and Unity into Separation 3dly Though we conscientiously forbear to assent or encourage to lay intentions of Marriage before the Womens Meetings yet our inward Sence is that it is not agreeable to the Life of Truth to oppose others in the Practice thereof 4thly When it pleaseth the Lord to manifest to us a sence of its Service in the Country as in the City we shall joyn hand and heart with our Brethren and Sisters in the Practice of it Oh unstable changeable men who can trust them in any thing What! not settled in their Judgment yet Fourteenth is an Abridgment of a Judgment against John Wilkinson and John Story Thomas Crisp thy Copy is not the same but falsly transcribed the chief words left out as to be reconciled to your Brethren and united to the Church is not in and other words put in dishonestly to serve thy own turn as the usual manner hath been through thy Book Fifteenth Another eminent Opposer of J. W. and J. S. saith Let not that spirit be reasoned with enter not into Articles with it but feed it with Judgment this is Gods decree Answ T. C. is it not God's Decree to pass Judgment upon all wicked spirits He doth not say article not with the person that were uncharitable but use means to pull him as 〈◊〉 Fire-brand out of the Fire by telling him if he will not hear thee tell one or two if he will not hear them tell the Church if he will not hear the Church let him be unto thee as an Heathen man Thomas Crisp our acquaintance and unity in the Truth twenty years since was joyful but now to see thee joyned to a spirit Error grieves my heart If thou shouldst dislike my plainness of speech and account it hard Words or ill Will thou art mistaken I wish thee all happiness as to my own Soul and in true Love counsel thee rest not in Self-confidence but search thy heart deeply whether thou mayst not be mistaken I say unto thee as in my Answer to William Rogers if thou canst prove all thy Writings true and mine false I will submit to the Truth in thee but if thou canst not prove thine true nor mine false then thou art to submit to the Truth in me so all Controversie betwixt us in these matters will be ended The 6th Moneth 1681. Thomas Laurence THE END