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A91936 Mene, tekel, perez, or, A little appearance of the hand-writing (in a glance of light) against the powers and apostates of the times. By a letter written to, and lamenting over Oliver Lord Cromwell. / By John Rogers. In this woful howre of his temptation, and of Sions sore pangs, and solemne appeals; and of the precious saints imprisonments and persecution for this most glorious, betrayed denyed, and crucified cause of Christ Jesus King of Saints and nations. Rogers, John, 1627-1665? 1654 (1654) Wing R1811; Thomason E231_2; ESTC R7990 15,517 17

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Tyrannical and unjust and more consonant with Gods word Statutes and judgements and right reason and more plain and easie and clear And to take away corrupt and simonious presentations whereby souls people are bought and sold to great mens lust c. For this formerly judged their duty to be dissolved and broken yea at that time too when this longed for mercy after many years was brought to the birth by some faithfull servants of the Lord precious round the Nation after many pangs much opposition yea and after the long sitting Parliament was broken too for their neglect of these very things with others seems strange to us Rev. 18.13 being Merchandize of Babylon and the more dissatisfies us for that we see this Power succeed for the support and upholding of those things which that Parliament had voted down and which the Army and good people had so often declared prop● of Antichrist this makes the Rise o● it more grievous to the souls of some of the Saints then in that the peoples choice was not in it though somes Declarations required that also 6. Micah 16. The Statutes of Ou ri are kept and all the works of the house of Alab and ye walk in their counsels that I should make thee a desolation and the inhabitants thereof an bissing therefore ye shall bear the reproach of my people O my Lord that the opening and bleeding of our Bowels for these things might be a little regarded and pittied 3. May you be most humbly as upon our bended knees intreated to take a little account of the already fruits and effect● of this alteration which the Lord knows we bitterly bewail before the great God 3. The already effects fruits of this change most grievous to the faithfull Godly as more heavy to us then the precedent changes in shutting up the dores of our publick meeting place hindring us in Gods Worship imprisoning our dear Brethren friends plundering reproaching grieving them and them onely that have been all those wars and yet are and we hope ever will be faithfull to the Cause and Kingdome of Christ threatning to take away their lives and indeavouring to stone and stab them aspe●sing them with most palpable loathsome and notorious falsities to possesse good people in the Countries with prejudice agai●st them as if they were against all Magistracy Ministry and Property which with a wonderous and wicked confidence some write and spread about the Lord lay it seriously to their hearts and humble them for it but we cannot be suffered to Print the Truth or to answer their cruell and unjust Calumnies or Accusations whilest we desire no other weapons the Lord knoweth for our warfare but the Word of Truth which shall be our defence yet we are not suffered to print but plundered of our notes and writings whiles all manner of lies slanders and ●njurious reports are printed and divulged of us This was counted Tyranny in the Papists and after in the Prelates and declared against page 10. of the Case of the A●my stated October 9th 1647. viz to lock up the Printing Presses against whom they please was in the Bishops time complained of as one of the great oppressions c. and yet to hinder truth it is now made Treason to print or preach it so that we are forced to conceal truth from the world and the witnesses lie a● it were dead in the streets by such Political combinations as these are who do all they can to keep out the breaking forth of that light and truth which suits not with their present purpose wherefore our onely remedy left us is faith and prayer and solemn Appeals to him that judgeth righteously yet the Lord shew mercy to our unkind brethren in the day of his appearing And in the mean time declare whether they do well or no to cry out so cruelly and rais ly against us in this our new captivity and to stir up the people against ●s as evil doers by the advantage which they have in w●iting what they will against us whilest our hands are tied behind us and truth is bound Besides oh oh are not men of corrupt principles and carnal interest up again with the highest confidence malignants countenanced and such incouraged as were not long since declaimed against whilest onely the little remnant of the Lords faithfull ones are frowned upon brow beaten threatned grieved wounded to the very souls of them for these things but our great comfort and confidence is that in this Day which will burn as an Oven when all the proud and all that do wickedly shall be as stubble the son of righteousnesse shall arise with healings upon us 4 Lastly my Lord may you be pleased but to see a little in the midst of our Agony and trouble how l●ke this present Government looks to that which the Lord by the faith and prayers of his despised people 11. Heb. 33. hath so eminently ingaged against laid in the dust and stamped upon with disdain fullfilling his word therein and whilest you were with the Lord therein he was with you but oh is there no danger to fit in the same seat be under the Predicament walk in the same Ways keep up the same interests with them that were for example sutely so visibly destroied and cut off The former K. cut off had his Courts Councels State Pride Idlenesse and vanity in persons about him rich beds hangings Coackes and Attendants evill Councellors Politicians and wise men put him upon imprisoning oppressing and persecuting the poor despised Saints under the name of Deceivers Hypocrites and Fanatick spirits c. that were not of the same principles with him and his Court ruling for his own interest more then for the peoples Liberties c. and O my Lord but a little consider is it not so in all or most of the same points pleaded against him so long together by the sword by the word and faith of Gods people How alike this G. is to it which God hath thrown down before our eyes thousands of whom lost their lives and dearest bloud and friends to free us from all these things O my Lord make us not your enemies by telling you the truth with tears and bleeding Bowels the Lord knows for you and yours whom the Lord hath so highly owned and honoured in his design against this very kind of G be pleased to use your own words page 12.31 38 39. of the Declaration of the Army going into Scotland 1650. wherein you declare against any government by one man or K. unlesse it be Christ Jesus and you tell the Brethren of Scotland if they proceed in any such design to bring in such a Government as King upon us they will blot out not onely their former merits but undo the noble atchievements of the English Patriots and Parliaments in this former Generations For we know say you how easie a thing it is to raise a Monarchical spirit
may overthrow them with the word or your who reproach us as hereticall and will not suffer ours to be published this is our case now Therefore as Luther wrote to the Dukes of Saxony Epist Tom 7. fol. 209 so do we humbly to you my Lord I would not saith he but all have free Liberty yet if any transgresse Gospell bounds and would raise up seditions or wars against you then you may suppresse them So my Lord if we stir up people ●o ●…sings tumults or carnal warfare as men falsly charge us then punish us a● you please for it is contrary to our principles so to do but to the spiritual works and warfare wherein we are now ingaged viz faith and prayer Furthermore O 〈◊〉 that you would not beleeve every report of the Rontis●ous or Fire-blowers of these our new troubles against us For as it was once said the way to get preferment and places is to write or rail against Luther as Eccius Coccius c. found it Pauper Lutherus multes ficit divites so do many Mony Merchants and Mercenarians see it at this day the way to get prefermeus is to be forward against us and the poor despised Remnant Now my Lord let not your ear be open to all their lies and not once open to the Testimony of Truth on our side will you be pleased to peruse a little those writings taken out of my S●udy and satisfie your self concerning the truth of them oculo irretorto and not beleeve those bits and parts which some Sycophants probably will acquaint you with on purpose to irritate and inrage you against the truth and Asserters of it Too too many such Flatterers are about you my Lord which makes our hearts to bleed for you that justific the wicked for reward and take away the righteensnesse of the righteous from him Isayah 5th But if we have no hopes left to prevail with you yet our heares are filled with hopes and sure we are to prevail with God our Appeal is in heaven and the faith and prayer which are up as high as ever since the world stood either will bring forth your conversion for Luther saith the Church converts totunmundum sanguins oratione or your confusion For the death and destruction of the Persecutors was as it was said of the death of Arrius precationis opus non morbi But if it be asked what we would have you do our present or Answer is first advise with the Lord by faith and prayer about your former Declarations and the good peoples expectations in your Closet a little for it is said of Carelus Magnus oh that the like might be said of you Plus cum Deo quam cum hominibus lequitur he loves more to be taking with God then with men or any of his Court 2. And then Proclaime Fast or solemae day of humiliation for the errors and sins past as 1 Kings 21.27.29 it came to passe when Ahab heard those words he rent his clothes and fasted and lay in sack cloth c. and the Lord said seest thou how Ahab humbleth himselfe because he humbleth himselfe before me I will not bring the evill in his dayes And in 1 Sam. 12.19 The people said Samuel pray for thy servants unto the Lord thy God that we dye not for wee have added unto all our sins this evill to aske a King and why was this so great a sinne see Sam. 8.5 they said make us a King like as all the Nations about us have And the Lord said vers 7. They have not rejected thee but they have rejected me that I should not Reign over them this was their great sin seeing the Lord himselfe would have ruled them and redeceived the alone Absolute Government over them upon which account Gideon good man refused it Iudges 8.23 saying I will not rule ever you but the Lord shall rule ever you 3. Furthermore let a solemn day and duty be set apart to seek the Lord for advice and Councell what to doe which good Princes and people alwayes did upon straits and emurgencies of old as Iudg. 7.23.27 shall we goe forward or cease say they so 2 Chron. 20 3. Iehosaphat feared and set himselfe to seek● the Lord did proclaimed a Fast throughout Iudah so Ezra 8.23 the want of this makes so much complaint by the Lord as in Amos 6.13 Yee rejoyce in a thing of nought saying have we not taken to us horus by our own strength And Hosea 8 4 They have set up Kings but not by me and Princes and I know it not that it without so much as asking it at my hands or consulting with my word or my Seers as they should doe but of their owne heads they have done this Therefore let the Lord be sought to about these things What to be done in order to return seeing other things were justly expected from them that professed Christ but the Summer is ended yea the Harvest is past and we are not refreshed O my Lord trust not to such Flatterers as alwayes speak smooth Things to you and prophesie deceitfully O hear a little the Lords own Seers via the Ministers of the Vnction from an High●… And therefore let out the Lords Prisoners whom the Churches are robbed of viz. Mr. Feak and Mr. Simpson that they may open to you the present vision of God given them in these things according to the dispensation of the spirit O hear them once at last preach to you in the power of Iesus ●or whom alone they suffer infirmities excepted and by the word of the Lord try the spirit whither of God or no for we are perswaded as long as they be in Prison you will be in blindness to the Truth Tanquam ad doctrinam peregrinam Therefore let them have though but for a moneth or two and though but half so much Liberty to open the word of the Lord to you as your Chaplains have if they preach not the very Truth and prove it to be so before all men imprison them again Let out the Lords prisoners M. Feak M. Simson Han. Trapnal now in Bridewel for Christ us too with them in this cause though hitherto we may say as Luther said Fideliter praedicare nihil alind est quam furorem mundi in se derivare our Faithful preaching hath raised up fury against us O my Lord think of these things these are the swords that pierce thorow our very souls we sue not for our own lives but for yours herein did not Pharaoh send for Ioseph out of prison to interpret his dream Gen. 41. and Belshassar send for Dan. chap 5. to open his vision yea and preferd him too though Daniel declared his ruine according to vision Surely surely you wil find it then the wisdom of God is more excellent then the arts sciences of the wise men about you But if you wil yet go on adexitium potius quam ad exercitium after all our bleeding intreaties and be hardned up by the dangerous counsel of your own Reason or them about you then my Lord our souls shal mourn in secret for you as for one desperately lost indeed and we shal proceed to bear our testimony against the sins of the times for our appeals hangs in heaven and we cannot recall it yea as Luther once said Quo magis illi furunt eo amplius precede the more men rage the more resolute we hope to be in our Appeals saith prayer to our JEHOVAH continuing up the Altar ED for a witness between us and our Adversaries yea come if need be as the Christians did by whole Troops to Arrius Antonious proclaiming themselves Christians Our Resolution and offering themselves up to the death for the Truth Being assured in our very souls though we now mourn we shall rejoice with joy unspeakable and ●ull of glory Luctus in laetitiam convertetur lachrymae in risum sa●cus in sericum cineres in corellas unguentum jejunium in epulum et ●anuum retortio in applausum In the meantime I beseech you my Lord pardon infirmities for God hath pardon'd them own what God owns that 's truth For potius in ardentem regum in siluere quam ullum peccatum in deum commisero as one said I had rather the Lord knows I think leap into a bonfire then wilfully commit wickednesse or sin against God yea mallem obedire quam miracula facere as Luther said I had rather be obedient to my God then work miracles and surely my Lord will you be a little serious you will say that it is Conscience to our duty which doth altogether prompt us to this present contest for the truth Cause and interest of our dear Lord Iesus the King of Saints and Nations wherein I am heartily desirous to be ready to live or die which my Master whom I serve will have me herein without the least tit●le or compound of Fraud or Flattery So far as I may Your True Sincere Servant JOHN ROGERS
but how hard it is to keep it within the circle we know the common old Plea is necessity which with sound Christians cannot now satisfie as a competent Apology for that Machivil hath ever made that a Cloak for his exorbitant actions Necessity no good Plea yea the Jews to crucifie Christ pretended thus O 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but as one said there is no NECESSITY to sin but against it and the Saints necessity in a civill reference as well as spiritual is to exalt Christ and his Kingdome But for this we onely flie to your own words again Remonst St. Albans page 5th He that ingageth upon pretences for publick ends and that upon publick necessity or extremity all which say you must concur to their full satisfaction therein he will first try all honest ways possible with due regard to and concurrence with the preservation of the Magistracy and Government under which God hath set him before he will flie to any ways of extremity neither will he when ingaged therein proceed further or longer in that way against or without the Magistracy then that first necessity or some other emergent upon the proceeding does justly lead not driving the pretence of Necessity further to serve or advantage himself or perpetuate those ways of extremity but when the necessity or danger is over wil return again to Magistracy Order i.e. now by Parliam as before we desire no more then your own words But seeing some of your Court do cast in Reason of State as well as necessity for this Alteration Reason of State dangerous we wish in the travel of our souls for them that their eys were opened to seethat this hath been wil bethe ruin of al States Governors now in the world viz. their Reason of State carnall or worldly Policie and Wisdome this brought the blood of Iezreel on the house of Jebu though he executed Justice on the King and his house according to Gods command yet he walked in the same wayes gat up upon the same Throne and into the same Kingdome and kept up the same Interest and Idoll worship his Predecessors cut off by the hand of Justice did and did the worke but by halfes and all by reason of State This Reason rejected Saul and made him disobedient this was that Reason that led Pharaoh and his Host into the bottome of the Sea in his bitter heat against the worke of God in that day and this was that principle that made Sihon King of the Amerites and Og King of Bashan Num. 21. oppose Israel and the worke of God in that Generation to their lamentable ruin Yet this was the Wisdom principle and light that lead the grave Councell John 11. into that cursed Vote of crucifying Christ And is not this warning enough for us Then see in all Ages how the results of the purest reason of state have proved dangerons yea destructive to Governors and Governments ever oppugning the present worke and desigue of God in these ages Therefore O my Lord let not this principle deceive you lest it destroy you May I speak Luthers words to you in Epist ad Melanst Sed scribe hee frustra si tu secundum Philosophiam vestram has res ratione regere hoc est cum rations insanires perges occides to ipsum c. I write these things in vaine if you will resolve to Rule by Carnall reason and according to the corrupt Dictates and the Philosophy of Sophisters about you which if you do will fall inevitably sad to you one day and too too probably will prove your Ruin which we beseech our God in mercy and time forbid Ergo certe are prote dol●● te meas preces si● irritas facere Oh! make not our daily prayers for you of no effect to you and because many Good men as well as Great were prestr'd by the pernicions Counsels and Suggestions of some Ambitionists and selsish Teachers and Schollars in Luthers days he was wont to pray a doctore gloriese a pastere contentiese libera nos dominus the Lord deliver us from such glorions Rabbies and selfe-seeking contentions Teachers And must we not pray that you may be freed from such as have subtilly insuared you Our Weapons of war far our adversaries what they are and doe Prelate like possesse you and others against us that we are Fanatique mad men Fools and heady enemies to Magistracy Ministry and all c. for which our hearts are pained within us whiles we ponder these things our spirits greived that men of so much former Merit and Eminency should so sinfully and unchristianlike condemne and accuse us of thing our hearts abhorre and loath within us And call for severity under the name of Justice and 〈…〉 Persecution against us in the matters of our Faith and Consciences meerly and alone for the exalting of Jesus Christ in the things which they themselves have formerly preached and professed to others yea which the whole Army have frequently declared for many years together till it came into Fashion to hold an Epheram religionem a Court Religion which will turne with the times but the Lord humble and break us for it But wisdows sayes Solomon is better then weapons of war Ecclesiastes 9. and as we have so we desire no other weapons but Gods owns word and spirit having our Loines girt about with Truth and having on blessed be our God for it the Brest plate of Righteousnesse in this busines wherein our Brethren are against us But my Lord may the presented Truth or poor crucified Jesus beg this favour to give it as much liberty as his adversaries have for their gross lies and falsities in printing or otherwise therefore will you be pleased though but for a little time a moneth or two to release those laws that hinder the liberty of publishing the Truth Let our Brethren or any that wil oppose us convince or corquer al they can with the good word of God we shall be satisfied to try it out with them so but not with the weapons of the world as they have them now all on their side to imprison persecute or put to death c. for that is Antichrists not Christ way of warfare In this sense saies Luther in Epist ad Erph. consider with what sword I have conquerd sin and overcome errors and subdued policy I have never touched you with a finger but with the spirit of Christs mouth viz. the Word of his Gospell so Z●inglius resp as Sirothin to●… 2. fol. 302 declares the Word of God the mely instrument to overcome with onica ●a que viasola est c. The word is the onely way to subdue errors therefore saith he we suffer all the writings of the Papists to be spread and read for the sword of the spirit shall destroy them all what cause then saith he is more suspicious then ours who would have even the Adversaries Doctrines publishea that we