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A94551 The nations right in Magna Charta discussed with the thing called Parliament. Whereas I Theaurau John tendred a petition dated the 15 November 1650. To the Parliament so called; there is a name and a thing, and a thing, and a name, and a name, and not the thing, and the name and the thing both in one according to the obedience to the thing and name. I tendred my petition upon the declarative: it was but name to me, and not the thing, which caused this inquiry to be made, and to be declared that the people may see and discerne betwixt the name and the thing. / Written by me Theaurau Iohn Tannijjour Hipriest sabbah scribah jail Earl of Exex or otherwise Essex tenet of Norway or Normandi Lord Paulet of Sene in France. Tany, Thomas, fl. 1649-1655. 1651 (1651) Wing T154A; Thomason E621_3; ESTC R206396 9,634 8

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agreement at 8 d. a day for which many out of conscience havedestroyed them and theirs and coming to their Thing it is but name and the name baring no more credit to him then to be worth to him 4 shil a pound Is this payment for faithfull service judge all men souldiers this is truth you know my heart bleeds to see but cannot help it unlawfull and unjust wayes is ever paide in its own coine and so t is just your full sums agreed of is your due as God is just for there is a justnesse in the meeanest thing and that is properly called Gods essentiall being I speak after the manner of men now souldiers by creating your Parliament if you can call it so it matters not to me to me name is not but things are the substance now though for the present your monies would not make much of it a bove 4 shil a pound it vvould be inquired into now the cause came that procured the effect of your sail of your due earned debt was it weaknes in your radax that it was note able to state a strong essence that must be denyed for their power and your power would have setched in your own dues being the whole kingdome was under your commands But it might be thus In writing I can make the last letter take the whole state when I write in Mophes that is in the Medish method then I write k for coffe which is strong now from a radax I can let fall a weak essence to take the state in k to the radax again I am afraid of this jugling nay plain dealing I will prove it the souldier is necessitated through you he is forced to sell you must be paymasters your derivacies draws up into essencie your essencie and ye state the radax of the souldiers earned wages is it fair or foule let the world judge true t is undeniable hovv comes such an involved inrolement of souldiers dues into a payment for whose lands I know not but the souldiers due is the true due in that patched purchase Now souldiers I must show you your undues for I have but one rule you wronged the Commonwealth when you devided the Parliament then you erred as is hinted before Now whereas ye souldiers wronged the Nation in their right you are rewarded with wrong by your own intended right now to do the nation wrong having done so you ought to do the Nation right for that end you vvere set on worke Now to do right to the Nation is all you can do take down your Thing set up by you that Thing nay name Parliament and let the right descend into the people again and a new choice made these to be accountable to you because they had a being of and from and by you in this doing you prove your selves nay they cause you prove your selves honest men at last now this way wil prove good for the nation Onely the losse of their moneyes thus you may account with them that have so straightly accounted with you take your due where it is due to be taken for your due God doth know is deerly earned and justly ought to have been paide you natives know t is not the souldier that wrongs you love the souldier none can help you but he t is he that should pay the souldiers that wrongs you who that is judge ye now if any man or men be offended at this truth here inserted and count me an enemy to the Parliament know I cannot properly nor unproperly be an enemy to that that truly is not the Thing but a name nay death to them by law in and by Magna Charta to own the same according to the right of the nations right a Parliament is the glory of the nation Nay the truth of the Nation t is the splendor and beauty of our beauty if by us it hath a being or else it can be no Parliament now this I honour and would lay down my life for as at first I stood for you when you were and covenanted with you and held with you till you from lambs turned wolves then I was afraide of you I opposed Charles Stuart in ship money was committed for it in London my horse taken and sold for shipmony in Cambrige shire by Pitcher of Trumpington then sheriffe know I ever stood against the Thing Tyranny and not the name now I hope no man no honest man or men will conceive anger against me for speaking the truth as this I leave to all men to judge of But thus in plain termes if any man or men be angry and charge me with crime This I declare to all people that that Man or men I vvill prove traitor or traitors by the law of the land by word by promise by protestation by oath by covenant by ingagement All this I will do so sure as the Lord lives I jest not I am in True earnest Look to it I weep for it to your consciences I commit to judge of But know a Ly with a Ly is one Meathod 〈…〉 one Meathod But bring 〈…〉 to be measured by Truth then it will not hold so much for this time Now know I am a mad man And ye declare me so to be it will be weaknesse in you to question me But know that A mad man is not to answer by the law of the land I take that privilige you cannot deny it if you be men sensable bare with my v●●knesse God I hope vvill give me greater understanding so I rest your ●●at are truely the Lords that sear him and vvalke in obeeience to him Yours To serve you in love Theaurau John Tani From the three Golden Lions without Temple-bar December 28. 1650.
THE NATIONS RIGHT in Magna Charta discussed with the thing Called Parliament Whereas I Th●●urau John Tendred A Petition dated the 15 of November 1650. To the Parliament so called There is a name and a thing and a thing And a name And a name And not the thing And the Name and the thing both in one according to the Obedience to the thing and name I Tendred my petition upon the declarative It was but Name to me And not the thing which caused this inquiry to be made And to be declared that the people may see and discerne betwixt the Name and the thing Written by me Theaurau Iohn Tannijjour Hipriest sabbah scribah Jail Earl of Exex or otherwise Essex Tenet of Norway or Normandi Lord Paulet of sene in France I John Tanni true Earl of Exex alias Essex of the seed royall desentive from Aaron the Lords Hipreest desentive from true right Henry the seventh which was of the rase of the Iews of the Tartarian line As my record of my Gencoligie will make appear from Aaron Moses brother Here is a mystery in this seeming seeing age yet never more deeds of darknesse acted by the sonnes of men Whereas I having laid my claim to the crown of England before any Acts came forth by the members that are members I deny all that be to be in the being for he cannot properly be said to be that is unradaxed That is stands not in and upon the foundation that gives a being to them all and us all that is Magna Charra and the petition of right for mind it is not names but things that is consistant with the good of the nation for a name is not the thing but the thing is the name and thing So are not you that call your selves a Parliament For to make your name true it must be declarative Acts done by you yet if it were so you are unradiased men in your conjunct as after I will shew not wronging you one tittle nor any one for Truth is a direct rule measuring all unmeasuring none which is Now not any Act that you cause to be published can cut off or lessen that that is For that That is truth the sayings of men cannot unsay it Theirs is but lettered names But it is the Thing and will be Because it hath a being The name none You make an act to be death to claime the crown in Charles Stuarts Line Now what I have claimed is from Henry the true seventh No● as that villane 8 Henry hath set them to make his title good By which treepwhole Stuart came in yet he is a A Cheat in that name Stuart which I can declare and weaken the Ly. For I count him no better when Truth shall have her resurrection Now my claime was past before your Act came forth And now you shall see I shall stoop to your will Not Law And in obedience to your command this you can make no claime to the crown of England But to that Command I state this full saying WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN I HAVE WRITTEN I beseech you all people take notice of this state And judge whether since the act I have laid any claim to the crown of England yet I take your commanding negative to be a co●●ifie to my affirmative and so by state I loose nothing For truth is truth so much for the first Now know I come as Nay a Commonwealths-man-Nay the Common-wealths-man and head of your House by my Barrony of Oxon 't is stated Oundell in Northampton in Buckingham-shire to let you know the meaning of that state t is thus That villian Henry the 8 so called to deceive the Assinant Stated it in two Counties That if claime was made in one it lay in the other So this was the indendant cheate And likewise repealed that Act of Richard the first and third And made it death to challenge any one into the field and state place and day Now I have challenged both the Marques of Herford and the Earl of Northumberland by letter he thatmade that statute to preserve his wicked seed God hath made it destructive For they are challenged by that that they should be defended by as he thought and it is death for them to answer by his own law The challenge to Northumberland is in my brother Oliver Crumwells right as he is heir aparant to Deavon and Northumberland Onely Northumberland hath my vicountcie as I shall make appear Now as I am a commoner of England Now I stare that state Essentiall none can deny and in this state you are bound to me Now we shall and all capacities look on and into the question and state stated Now know that your being and my being in that right of rights Nay that divine right intendant to all ' Its Essentiall wherein your and mine is but one Now comes the state of your being being in right of Nay in Magna Charta that is your life and mine and the nations all conjoyned into one Now in that one all being right out of and from that radax know that in that right the Major includes the Minor Then where is your obedience to the nation and that that gave you a being The Major chose the Minor not to Lord but to love Right redresse and suppresse now in the word suppresse we see powerful actings to all our griefs and love redresse shut out of door is this the end you were chosen for or that end our Fathers for our good caused such a composure that though they were dead the life of their right descentive might live in us and we in it Alas we are the name but they were the Thing and name truely we are nothing in that stock for every mans right is in and by and at a few mens wills it is death to speak trueth which is the Thing only we live in the name which name is a ly without the thing Now to come to the true state of this our called Parliament fellow-Commoners that cannot offend if you understand your own Essence ye were chosen but the choise at first was not perfect consistant with the intendant of our Radaxes there ought not in that choise parties to be made to make a choise but a free voluntary intendant was intended I beseech you brethren if you Be yea will hear trueth if you cannot do it be assenters to it and not opposers of it in so doing you will be found fighters against the Lord of hosts whose breath is in you if you be in the trueth I measure no man I hate no man only the Lord hath caused me to lay down to you the rule to measure your selves by if you be convinced that it is trueth follow after it and insue it and break off your transgressions by righteous Actions that the broken may be healed For this I know great wrath is gone forth from the Lord Now to grant you were a 〈…〉 and set acting for the intending you were
chosen you 〈…〉 and abused and the Nations right not only vilifide destroyed 〈…〉 of the Nations choise was called forth then be came you another thing and no Parliament according to the antient right of Mag●● 〈◊〉 and the Petition of right that hath its essential right in and ●om Magna Charta there this is your proper state you were no Parliament that though you in heart were right members for the heart makes the right member of a true assembly This is an allusive allegory but to state it home you were in truth your servants servants and no Parliament according to the antient right of Magna Carta and the second petition of right in King James his time Now according to the right of our right there must be an account rendered for the invading all our Rights in that state O it had been a glorious work that then a new choise had been according to true election then was the time to have made us a free people as you call us but your calling us free we cannot say Amen but we may safely affirm we are worse bound And you now can not help us nor your selves Nor can never recover I know in what state this stands but I conseal Now to speak proper you were the souldiers thing called a Parliament Now to them you proved the name and not their intending thing For then they thought you should do right to them and they would do Right to you and you two held all our Rights by force from us If you or they or both had caused a new choise not that you had power by right to stand and chuse to you but the souldier standing defensive having let the right down from you into the people again in whom it is inhearent and you have put your selves in hazard of the New choosing again which thing you ought to have done And I need not let you know this for you know too much in doing no more Now it is just that they that wronged the Nation in their right should be wronged by them they wrongfully set up to have their right by not regarding the Nations wrong it suffers by them Now I speak as a Commoner of England nay I speake for the whole Native It is a dishonour to you that the souldier is not paid fully to a penny 't is his due yea much hardship have they suffered for nothing Now I beseech you consider that when a Parliament is it doth right maintaining the honour of the Nation in all its proper essences Now I hope I shall offend none that truly Are for they that Be will endure looking into for truth seeks no covert nor Corner but stands openly to be viewed of all and viewes all mind that state But falsehood and a ly is seeking coverts continually and alwaies building defensives and yet never strong but alwaies weake and fearful The Righteous is as bold as a Lyon walkes in and by one and the same rule Now if that rule which is here intendant be all your measures or the Major part then fear will not possesse you But if ye be wicked that is weaknesse and soon offended But 't is better to return though to the Manhood disgrace then to go on in stubbornesse in an evil way and resolve thus that though we have done thus and conscience witnesse against us we will cut off to establish our own way not Gods way Then know that guilt will never be secured but will cut off all but it self This is the true nature of rebellion against the Command of God That word true is not proper stated in that sence because trueth cannot be in a ly for nothing but trueth confounds the ly Now to returne to you whom is intended thus much if you say a Parliament I say the disgrace of the Nation Thus will you stand to your words your vowes your Oathes your Covenant your ingagement now I know some of the least Actors can with innocency and uprightnesse stand to it Now while it is thus the upright and innocent suffers for God hath a people among you who are of a trembling heart and now these suffer through the miscarriages of others are branded with the name of infamie But my Brethren God will clear you in the day of restitution and it is at hand Now if men dare not own their word Oathes Covenant Engagement nor stand by Magna Charta these men must be spirits and not men yet we see and feel these to be men but if they do disown that is stated judge ye are they fitted to be such men know so much as a man is just he is the representative of his makers majesty and no farther For your words let the Nation judge which truely is essential your Judges hold the same method in the first state as the Major chose the Minor I hope we that have stood for trueth may now speak trueth though we cannot injoy it your word and our adherents to you in the first was for the Gospel the Law the liberty of the subject we that are the Commons you having overcome by our vaste charge losse and trouble what hath been injoyed of this by us yet but thus we have paid your request I mean taxes you have deducted the fouldiers pay for his quarter in part and the Country hath had this by the souldier eaten up and no pay whose wide purse holds that summe that was worse then ten taxes together this I know I felt and from fence I speak only Now I blame not the souldier for this but you named Parliament One more to that when all the provision was spent there comes another reckoning the Excize-man he must have so much for beer and meat that was eaten by your nay our owne souldiers and never a penny for the substance but so much for the pleasuring the souldier with parting with that we have for nothing is this a demonstrative of a true Parliament I desire no offence may be taken of truth for what I have writ I will maintain and send the least Messenger or porter I will appear and answer by writing for I have an impeade in my speech and I desire noe more favour for truth is truth and will be though trod on I am not thus chastised to run into a corner if he whom I serve will not deliver me I am content so that deliverance come but to the poor peeled Nation though I be offered a sacrifice and burnt to ashes for them I shall rejoice he cannot be that I am but must be so in the reality of his sould before the eternal God know you I know what I speak though this state you cannot reach So much for the first freedome The next is to maintain the Law of the Land and pull down tyranny this we were sworn to Now what law is there preserved but all destroyed for Magna Charta is the being of all our beings if we have then beings in the true right of