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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A63159	The tryal and conviction of John Tasborough and Ann Price for subornation of perjury, in endeavouring to perswade Mr. Stephen Dugdale to retract and deny his evidence about the horrid Popish Plot with an intention to stifle the further prosecution and discovery of the same at the King's bench bar at Westminster, Tuesday the third day of February, 1679/80 before the Right Honourable Sir William Scroggs Knight, Lord Chief Justice, and the rest of the judges of that court.	Tasborough, John, defendant.; Price, Ann., defendant.; England and Wales. Court of King's Bench.	1680 (1680)	Wing T2161; ESTC R23482	43,678	63

those that are in their dealings sometimes honest fair men yet when they come to be of that Religion there they are debauched and there they are brought to do as wicked things as can be in favour and to support that Religion Then Alderman Barker was Sworn Mr. Thompson Do you know Mr. Tasborough Mr. Barker Yes I have known him several years Mr. Thompson How long Mr. Barker Fourteen or Fifteen years Mr. Thompson How have you looked upon him Mr. Barker I have looked upon him as an honest peaceable man Mr. Just. Pemberton You have known him to be a Catholick Mr. Barker Yes that I have Mrs. Price May I beg the Favour of this Honourable Court that I may speak for my self here Mr. Just. Dolben Well come Mrs. what will you say But we must tell the Jury before-hand it signifies nothing for Evidence Mrs. Price I desire to speak the truth Mr. Just. Dolben But they must not believe a word you say Mr. Price Be pleased to give me leave to speak however Mr. Justice Iones Well go on Mrs. Price Sir Mr. Dugdale does here accuse me of suborning him to retract his Evidence I do protest 't is so far from it that he importuned me and solicited me to go to the Duke of York and he told me if I would go he would pay my Coach-hire Is it not so Mr. Dugdale Mr. Just. Pemberton You must not interrogate him Mr. Just. Dolben The very first thing you have said hath discredited all you would say for if Mr. Dugdale as you say had importuned you that you would do this thing for him how comes it to pass that afterwards you should promise him a reward of 1000 l. and bring a Gentleman to make it good Mrs. Price I assure you my Lord I never did Mr. Just. Dolben T is most apparent Tasborough does not deny that Mrs. Price But that which is the real truth that you say must not be believed Mr. Just. Pemberton Did he solicit you to draw your Note Mrs. Price Yes he did upon the word of a Christian. Mr. Just. Iones You did confess that you did study it and draw it your self Mrs. Price I did so but he importuned me to it Mr. Just. Pemberton How do you prove that Mrs. Price I desire to know by what words I took off his Evidence at Harcourt's Tryal Mr. Just. Dolben You desired him to be kind because he was your Confessor Mrs. Price I desire to ask him the question by what words it was Mr. Just. Iones Well you may ask him but 't is little to the purpose Can you remember the words or the effect of the words that she spoke to you in the behalf of Harcourt the night before his Tryal I think it was Mr. Dugdale Yes it was the night before to desire me I would not be an Evidence against him in regard he was her Ghostly Father Mrs. Price You know you came to me Mr. Dugdale and told me you rid Post to Town Mr. Just. Pemberton We must have no more of these interlocutory discourses Mr. Dugdale Mrs. Price I would not do you the least injury in the World Mr. Serj. Maynard Mr. Justice Iones I desire a word Mr. Just. Iones If you will produce any Witnesses do Mrs. Price I desire I may speak for my self Mr. Just. Dolben 'T is but reason she should speak for her self Mr. Just. Pemberton But I hope if she ask unreasonable Questions she is not to be heard Mrs. Price I only speak Truth Mr. Just. Dolben But we must not take your Evidence of it produce your Witnesses Mr. Just. Iones If you have any to prove what you say call them Mrs. Price Whether you will take my Evidence or not pray let me speak for my self Mr. Just. Dolben We cannot believe you nor must the Jury believe you I 'le tell you that before hand Mr. Iust. Pemberton We tell you you must not be heard If you have any questions to ask let your Councel propose them Mr. Iust. Dolben If you apply to Jury you are not to tell the matter of Fact but to prove it to them by Witnesses Mrs. Price I desire however I may be heard my self Mr. Iust. Iones If any thing hath been omitted by your Councel which is material for your defence and you have Witnesses to prove it they shall be called Mr. Iust. Pemberton Mrs. Price you must know the course of the Court and the way of Evidence is we are not to hear the Persons indicted make long Speeches to the Court or to the Jury or come with great confidence to deny the thing that is proved against them if you have any thing material to say we will hear you by your Councel you must not trouble us Mrs. Price My Lord I have matter enough to say but it can't be heard Mr. Saunders We desire Wright may be called again Mr. Iust. Iones To what purpose Mrs. Price To prove that you Mr. Dugdale would suborn him Mr. Dugdale Call him if you will if you can prove any practices upon me Mrs. Price You have good practices we know you are a man of excellent practices you had need commend your practices You know very well Mr. Dugdale that you told me you were perjured Mr. Recorder 'T is not Language fit for you to give Mr. Serj. Maynard Is that liberty of Speech fit to be given she tells Mr. Dugdale that he said himself he was perjured Mr. Iust. Pemberton You are an impudent woman to talk so Mr. Iust. Dolben Your mouth must be stopped if you can use your Tongue no better Mr. Iustice Iones What would you ask him when he does come Mrs. Price I have told my Councel Mr. Saunders She says she would ask him whether Mr. Dugdale did not offer him money to suborne him in this Case You are sworn already Sir are you not Mr. Wright Yes Mr. Saunders Then pray answer the Court this Question Did Mr. Dugdale at any time offer you any money to take an Oath or give Evidence Mr. Wright Offer me money Mr. Saunders Yes you Answer upon your Oath Mr. Wright No my Lord. Mr. Saunders Or any thing else did he offer Mr. Wright No my Lord He hath often sent to me to come and when I did come hath said I am glad you are come I 'le do you as great a kindness but he did not know of my coming because his Messengers had not met with me Mr. Saunders Did any one on his behalf offer you any thing Mr. Wright No I think not if it was I think it was in vain Mr. Saunders But did he or did he not Mr. Wright No. Mr. Recorder If Mrs. Price hath any more such Witnesses she may call them Mr. Serj. Maynard Sir under your favour here hath been a strange way of defence Consider what a Crime we are upon and in what times we are That there is a Plot of a very high and transcendent Nature under Question that divers Witnesses have been

your paines Can you answer that Mr. Iustice Pemberton Or can you Answer th' other that he should say She hath Acquainted me what you propose that is That you would Retract all and go out of the way and be no more an Evidence and if you would do that that she hath Acquainted me with her Proposition which I come to Confirm that she would give you 1000 l. What can be made of that Mr. Iustice Dolben And withall formerly there was a Discourse of some person of Quality that should come to him he desired that some such one should be a Security for the money and afterwards she brought Mr. Tasborough and said That was the Gentleman she told him of Mr. Iust. Pemberton Come Mr. Pollexfon take this too What had Mr. Tasborough to do to use the Duke of York's Name And to say That he had Authority from him to propose these things which certainly is a very great wrong to so great a Prince L. C. I. That needed not to a penitent person that was sorry for what he had done Mr. Pollexfen He does indeed say That Mr. Tasborough should be the man that should secure the money Mr. Sol. General And there is one thing farther to take in all that Mr. Tasborough did likewise say to Mr. Dugdale That there is no harm in doing this that it is a very Charitable Act and that he would do well in it L. C. I. But they answer that by saying supposing it to be true that Dugdale had Remorse then it would be a very good Action but to Talke of 1000 l. to be given for it there is the Crime Mr. Pollexfen Whether my Answer will take with your Lordship or no I can't tell but the Answer I would give is this There are several things in that Paper as amongst the rest That he should fall under great dislike and danger and therefore was forced to hide and secure himself for fear of those whom he should make his Enemies by it and that was terror enough to any man that should run into such a Retraction Therefore now he must live when he hath done this and so we should apply the other part of the Discourse whatever Money she had promised to take off his Fears of Want and so his coming there was to make good that part of the Paper which says he must be protected and maintained and preserved that he may see he hath a subsistance and provision for him if he did deserve it And my Lord it will be greatly distinguishing in our Case and turn much upon this point with submission if I give or offer money to any man to Swear a Falshood or Retract the Truth 't is a very great Crime and if we are Guilty of that undoubtedly our Crime is very bad but in order to the bringing of Truth to discovery and to have a Retraction not of a truth but of a falshood and to preserve that Witness from perishing I may promise him protection and subsistance Mr. Sergeant Maynard Then you have found out a better way then the Devil himself could have suggested to uphold Subornation L. C. I. Upon my Word if that were a way that were allowable then woe be to us we should easily have all the Witnesses tampered with by the Temptation of 1000 l. Reward Do you think that is a good thing for a Man to say This thing was rashly said if you will unsay't you shall have such a Reward People would be apt to bite at such a Bait and we do not live in so Vertuous an Age that 1000 l. will not Tempt a Man to unsay what he hath said at first though what he said then was true Mr. Pollexfen It were an unjust and unfitting thing if it were as you say Mr. Iust. Pemberton Nay Mr. Pollexfen consider these things must not be done by any one their way if they had been convinced of the Truth had been to have carryed the Complaint to a Magistrate and there to detect him by what he had said not to Corrupt him and persist in it by telling him if he would do so and so he should have 1000 l. By this you let in all mann●e of Temptations to Witnesses that we shall never know where we are L. C. I. Come Mr. Dugdale because I will shew you all very fair play I think very well of Mr. Dugdale Mr. Iustice Pemberton He hath carryed himself always well L. C. I. Yes truely I know nothing to the contrary and pray tell upon your Oath and tell the truth Did Mr. Tasb●rough when he Read the Note ask of you Is this true Did he inquire of you Whether or no you were really a Convert and Whether your Sorrow and Repentance were true Mr. Dugdale No he never did L. C. I. Did he ask you if you could do it with a safe Conscience Mr. Dugdale No nothing of Conscience was ever named in it L. C. I. Did he ask you whether it was true M● Dugdale He never named truth or falshood It was onely to get me over to Retract what I had said Mr. Iust. Pemlerton What is a Temptation if this be not 〈◊〉 Truely I ask this Question that the World may see 〈◊〉 would 〈◊〉 out the Truth by all the ways we can for 〈◊〉 h● had b●en 〈◊〉 〈…〉 and asked him Whether 〈◊〉 could do this safely and with a good Conscience and Whether the matter of it were true it would have gone a great way but now I have Asked Mr. Dugdale this upon his Oath and he sayes it was only to get him over to them Mr. Iust. Pemberton And then consider all that is said against Mrs. Price is turned upon you except that of the contrivance to keep him from giving his Evidence against Harcourt A very subtill Invention it was but whether Mr. Tasborough was in the business of the Note in Contriving it I cannot tell and it signifies nothing But she having contrived as Ill a Note as can be Penn'd he is as much Guilty for he Sollicits as well as she and countenances it so far as to Undertake farther that the Money and the Bribes she had offered should be paid and made good L. C. I. Mr. Dugdale Mr. Tasborough talked with you of going away Mr. Dugdale Yes my Lord. L. C. I. Advised you to be gone Mr. Dugdale Yes he did He told me I were best to absent my 〈◊〉 for a while beyond Sea and shold have convenient passage L. C. I. Did he mention the Duke of York What said he Mr. Dugdale Yes he said he had acquainted the Duke and the Duke had given him Orders to press that Note home for said he the Duke will not believe you will be true if you do not sign this Note Mr. Iustice Pemberton 'T is never to be endured that you should abuse so Noble a Prince L. C. I. Did you tell Mr. Tasborough then if I come over there is Oates and Bedloe and Prance still left Mr. Dugdale I did