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dog_n he_o snatch_v pref_o p._n 5._o 2._o i_o can_v but_o condemn_v your_o pravitie_n in_o so_o wilful_a pervert_v it_o even_o contrary_a to_o your_o own_o conscience_n 2._o b._n p._n 4._o 3._o you_o add_v malice_n to_o falsehood_n p._n 5._o 4._o it_o argue_v mere_a malice_n without_o matter_n p._n 6._o 5._o his_o malcontented_a impatience_n p._n 17._o 6._o he_o count_v the_o author_n of_o limbomastix_n both_o a_o fool_n p._n 27._o and_o a_o goose_n p._n 28._o 7._o rather_o ismaelite_n in_o faction_n then_o israelit_n in_o faith_n p._n 18._o 8._o in_o this_o calendar_n of_o saint-seeming_a nocent_o limbomastix_n have_v canonize_v himself_o p._n 19_o 9_o he_o use_v the_o like_a parasitical_a preoccupation_n to_o curry_v favour_n p._n 24._o 10._o there_o be_v neither_o truth_n nor_o modesty_n in_o your_o word_n p._n 34_o 11._o he_o call_v he_o a_o liar_n apply_v these_o word_n mendax_fw-la raro_fw-la memor_fw-la p._n 38._o that_o he_o proper_o belie_v he_o 3._o b._n 127._o 12._o no_o 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you_o will_v false_o insinuate_v ibid._n 26._o do_v notable_o discover_v his_o hypocrisy_n p._n 19_o 27._o let_v hypocrisy_n pass_v this_o once_o as_o if_o it_o be_v humility_n p._n 27._o 28._o you_o most_o hypocritical_o pretend_v p._n 44._o 29._o as_o you_o begin_v your_o preface_n with_o falsehood_n and_o malice_n p._n 105._o 30._o to_o the_o end_n neither_o falsehood_n shall_v want_v absurdity_n nor_o folly_n contrariety_n p._n 126._o 31._o you_o begin_v with_o falsehood_n and_o slander_n p._n 139._o 32._o fraud_n and_o falsehood_n be_v every_o where_o your_o strong_a fort_n p._n 143._o 33._o your_o falsehood_n mix_v with_o absurdity_n p._n 144._o 34._o falsification_n be_v grow_v into_o such_o a_o habit_n with_o you_o p._n 162._o 35._o falsehood_n be_v your_o sure_a fortress_n p._n 186._o 36._o as_o you_o delight_n in_o contrariety_n so_o it_o best_a please_v you_o to_o add_v falsity_n to_o it_o p._n 195._o 37._o fallacy_n mix_v with_o falsehood_n p._n 197._o 38._o will_v god_n you_o will_v once_o leave_v your_o falsehood_n 1._o test_n s._n 17._o p._n 2._o 39_o from_o these_o you_o proceed_v to_o the_o shameful_a falsification_n etc._n etc._n 1._o test_n sect_n 23._o p._n 2._o 40._o you_o seek_v after_o nothing_o but_o falsehood_n 3._o test_n s._n 7._o p._n 1._o 41._o your_o profane_a contention_n p._n 103._o 42._o diabolical_a presumption_n ibid._n 43._o have_v never_o a_o good_a thought_n of_o your_o own_o 2._o b._n 106_o 44._o what_o be_v this_o else_o but_o to_o root_v out_o christianity_n and_o plant_v infidelity_n 2._o b._n 146._o 45._o it_o show_v your_o spitefulnes_n p._n 155._o 46._o it_o be_v your_o own_o folly_n ibid._n 47._o which_o show_v you_o neither_o regard_n rule_v of_o divinity_n nor_o yet_o of_o humanity_n p._n 158._o 48._o as_o you_o show_v neither_o verity_n nor_o modesty_n so_o you_o incur_v thereby_o absurdity_n and_o impiety_n p._n 161._o 49._o your_o malice_n shall_v not_o extinguish_v my_o charity_n p._n 165._o 50._o the_o 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