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A86649 The fiery darts of the divel quenched; or, Something in answer to a book called, a second beacon fired, presented to the Lord Protector, and the Parliament, and subscribed by Luke Fawne, John Rothwel, Samuel Gellibrand, Thomas Underhill, Joshua Kirton, Nathaniel Web. Wherin, their lies and slanders are made manifest against the innocent, and those books which have been published by them they call Quakers, owned and vindicated, and all the rest which is in that book disowned, and their deceite laid open; how they have perverted the truth and our words in those books which they cry out of as blasphemy, that the truth may not suffer under the reproach of the heathen. / By one who is a witnesse for the truth against Gog and Magog, called after the flesh, Francis Howgil. Also something in answer to a booke called a voice from the Word of the Lord, by one John Griffith, against us, whom the world calls Quakers, wherein his false accusations is denied, and he proved to be a slanderer, and the truth cleared from his scandals. By one who is a witnesse against the deceits of the world, called Edward Burrough. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3159; Thomason E817_16; ESTC R207383 23,227 35

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of the bookes in the Beacon fired wee disowne them but I believe you have belied them as you have done ours A Certaine Book being come forth into the world ful of lies and slanders against the innocent called A voice from the word of the Lord to those grand impostors called Quakers to the Author of which book who calls himselfe J●hn Griffith a servant of Christ and to all to whomsoever it may come I am moved to write something in Answer that his lies and slanders and false r●proaches may be made manifest and that he may proceed no further for as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses so doth he resist the truth being a man of a corrupt mind and reprobate concerning faith and is not a Servant of Christ nor a witnesse for his name but a child of disobedience in whom the Prince of the aire rules And first to the title of thy book I Answer the word of the Lord is powerful and wil cut thee down thou sensual minded man yet thou knowest not but takes the words of others declared from the word vvhich vvas in them and thou useth thy tongue and saith the Lord saith it but I say unto thee the Lord hath not spoken unto thee neither commanded thee to speak of his name and I charge it upon thee in the presence of the Lord God of life that thou art of that generation which Jeremiah was sent to cry against Jer. 23. 31. for thou speakes thy imaginations upon their words which dwelt in the life of God but the life thou knowest not and thy whole book is no more but an empty sound and voice is as the untimely fruit of the womb which wil wither and perish away and one of them I am whom thou calls Quakers to whom thou saist thou directs thy speech but that wee are grand impostors I do denie for we are gathered up into the life which the holy men of God lived and are fallen from the world and from its wayes and nature and I charge thee here to be a slanderer and from the mouth of the Lord I do declare unto thee that thou must have a slanderers reward And vvheras thou saist thou hast discovered their fleshly and filthy mindednesse together vvith the judgments of God attending them I Answer Fleshly and filthy mindednesse we have denied by the Power of the Sonne of God made manifest in us thou hast laid it to our charge but thou hast not proved it nor discovered it and here againe thou art a false accuser fleshly and filthy mindedness shal stand for thy ovvne condition for there thou art in the flesh and filth living to thy vvil in the lust of uncleanesse for you may remember thou came out of the bowling Allie to our meeting though Pharisee like thy out side is painted and made clean but thy heart is ful of enmity and lies and slanders and false reproaches to that in thy conscience I do speake which shal for ever vvitnesse me and as for the judgments of the Lord upon thy own head wil they fal and with what measure thou metes it shal be measured to thee again we are passed from judgment and from the condemnation and who art thou thon enemy of righteousnesse that shal lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect And whereas thou saiest thou art one that bears witnesse against those wandring starres I answer this shal stand for thy owne condition a wandring star thou art and hath no habitation in the heaven but speaks swelling words of vanity thou thy self being a servant of corruption we have an abinding place and an habitation in the Lord and are not wandring and here againe I charge thee to be a false accuser and a false witnesse who bears witnesse of thy selfe for the Father bears no witnesse of thee but against thee Whereas thou saist the most high God that made the heavens and the earth hath moved thee and stirred thee up to bear witnesse to the truth and to witnesse against the abmoinable fleshly mindednesse and yet spiritual pride of those grand impostors called Quakers by whose sorceries many are bewitched and drawn from the simplicity of the gospell to another gospel which is not another Gospel but the vanity of their owne minds and their owne fleshly and corrupt thoughts which they cry up as Oracles of God I answer The most high God judge between thee and us whose wrath is kindled against thee thou enemie of righteousnesse and child of wrath thou hast belied the Lord of heaven and earth for to this he moved thee not for he moves none to utter lies and slanders as thou hast done but the spirit of enmity and of the Divil hath moved thee and to the truth thou beares no witnesse but against the truth and against the innocent and charges us with fleshly mindednesse and spirituall pride O thou lier and false accuser the Lord who takes our part against thee will plead with thee and render upon thy head according to thy deedes prove what thou speaks that we are fleshly minded and spiritually proud or else let thy mouth be stopped and shame cover thee for ever sorceries and witchcraft and drawing from the simplicity of the Gospel wee doe deny but the plaine single truth wee doe declare by which the eye of the blind is opened in many to see your deceits who call your selves Churches and Preachers of the Gospel which is not the Gospel that the Apostles preached but an adding your own Imaginations upon their words who witnessed the Gospel and it shal stand for thy own condition thou art in the sorcery and witchraft who draws people to observe an outward visible thing from the light of Christ within them which leades to the simplicity of the Gospel which is inward and not outward and thou art in thy fleshly and corrupt thoughts crying up the Ordinances and Oracles of God which are but carnal and beggerly rudiments of the world which passeth away and here thou art seen and made manifest in the light of Christ to be a hypocrite who false accuses others of that which thou art guilty of thy selfe the same Gospel as ever was doe we declare and not another which wee received not from man neither was taught it by man and as the Oracles of God it shall stand for ever for a witnesse against thee and all the world who doth not believe for even the Father beares witnesse of us and therefore our witnesse is true and the righteous God will plead with thee thou lyar and false accuser and here be a witnesse against thy selfe that the Lord moved thee not but the Divil acting in thy owne imaginations and in the vanity of thy one minde and in thy one fleshly and corrupt thoughts and whereas thou sayest to us thou directs thy speech from the Lord thus saith the Lord to thee O Quaker thou art fleshly minded I answer It is not the voyce of the Lord to us that
hear his voice and a strangerthey will not hear I answer They that are of God do owne the writings of all the servants of Christ but many may professe their words as the Pharisees did the Prophets words and as thou dost now and yet not bee of God but children to the divel but that our conceits are fleshly I do deny thee for all conceits of the flesh wee deny and beares witnesse against and it shall stand for thy owne condition and thy voice is the voice of a stranger and they that are of God will not follow it though thou bring the Saints words in thy mouth as the divel did unto Christ yet in the light of Christ thou art seene and comprehended and from the light of Christ answered and by it judged to be without the life of those scriptures which thou speaks of and they are from thee but as an empty sound And whereas thou cites many more Scriptures which are exhortations of the Apostles to the Church and exhorts thy Bretheren with them to vvhich I Ansvver as before The Scriptures I doe ovvne but to thee thou envious man they doe not belong for as in this thy vvriting thou art proved a lier and a scorner and a slanderer and a false accuser and a blasphemer out of thy ovvne mouth be a vvitnesse against thy selfe and let all thy vvhole assembly beare vvitnesse against thee that the Scriptures vvhich vvere spoken to the Saints vvho vvalked in the light and had denyed ungodliness doth not belong unto thee vvho art an hater of the light and lives in the pollutions of the vvorld but the Scriptures vvhich vvill surely be fulfilled upon thee the wicked shal be turned into hel and the lier shal have his portion in the lake and he that works abomination is to be troden in the winepresse of the wrath of God without the City and such like And now somthing in answer to something in the Epistle to the Reader whereas thou and the rest of you there say although the light hath appeared yet there is a generation of men in the world that doe hate the light and endeavour to put it out crying against the scriptures of truth it s a dead letter and against the forme of doctrine therein contained To which I answer It is true the light hath appeared Christ who is the light lightneth every one that comes into the world which light hath appeared in every mans conscience and there is a generation which hates the light and you are of that generation which say every man hath not the light and calls the light of Christ thick darknesse and endeavors to put it out and here you have read your owne condition though you make a large profession of the Scriptures which is not the light but words declared from the light as the Jewes did professe the prophets words but persecuted Christ and spoke against him who was the light and substance of the prophets words and if you know any who cries against the scripture and against the doctrine therin contained with you we cry and declare against such for the scripture we owne in its place to be a true declaration of God of Christ and of the saints conditions but they are not the light but Christ is the light as themselves bear witness nor are they the saints guide but he spirit that gave them forth as they themselves bear testimony neither was the scriptures given forth to give your own imaginations and suppositions upon but they themselves are doctrine and are as they speak he that hath the same spirit which speaks them forth reads them and understands them and none else and whereas thou saist lest that simple plaine meaning men should be kept in Babels darkness or the enlightned fall into the errour of the wicked for that reason your book came to publick view I answer Truly you are deceived who think to gaine into your form the simple plain meaning men by lies and false slanders and false accusation who are simple and plain unto God wil discern your deceits and how falsly you have accused the innocent and wil see you your selves to be in Babels darkness and who walks in the light wherwith they are lightned wil see you to be in the errour of the wicked and out of the truth and it is well for the truths sake that your book came forth that thereby your filthiness and deceitfulness and enviousness might be laid open to the simple And truly I say unto you you have and wil miss of your end in putting forth this book of yours and whereas you say you shall be willing at any time to vindicate every conclusion therein contained against any that shall oppose I answer I challenge you all in this particular to prove those accusations which you have laid to our charge whom you call Quakers in many particulars which before I have demanded what they are is before spoken of and whereas you say you account that light within not witnessed by the scripture without which some so much talke of to be deep darkness I answer if you know any who speake of any light which the Scripture doth not witnesse of we with you freely declares against such and such a light is darkness but the light of Christ which we speak of which hath lightned every one that cometh into the world I hope you are not so impudent but you wil acknowledge that the scriptures speaks of this light and dare not deny but that the scripture witnesses that Christ is the light of the world for as I said we freely give way and desires that all might search the scripture whether these things be not so as we declare And whereas you say and exhort to let the Scripture be the rule of faith and practice I Answ Here you would alwaies keep people in darkeness under your teaching and would make void the new Covenant which is the Law written in the heart and the spirit of the Lord put in the inward parts to be the rule and guide of the Saints for who walkes by the rule without them and teaches men so to do would make void the Covenant of life and peace where the teacher is not removed into a corner which teacher all that have faith and an holy conversation do witnesse which teaches not contrary to what the Scripture speaks but is a teaching fulfilling of the Scripture and an establishing of it though thou and many may professe the teaching of the Scripture and may in your own wills conform unto it in the outward appearance as the Pharisees did and yet be but Hypocrites and deceived as they were and I say againe that faith was before the Scripture was written which faith is declared of in the Scripture which faith comes as is manifested by hearing of the word Preached which word is even in the mouth and in the heart if you have an ear you may hear now I advise you all in the name of the Lord to cease striving and contending against the truth for verily the stone which is cut out of the mountain without hands will dash your image of many mixtures to peices and it falling upon you wil grinde you to powder and your conforming the outward man to an outward thing and teaching men so to doe and limiting and tying the Holy one to a visible thing wil not cover you in the day of the Lord nay verily though concerning the Scripture without you may walk blamelesse yet one thing will be found lacking even the crosse of Jesus Christ by which all sin is crucified in them who walks in it and I say unto you that your covering is too narrow and it will not hide your secret parts for in the eternall light of Christ you are seen and comprehended your beginning your time and your end for though you have the Scriptures and Jewish like walkes up in the outward appearance of them crying the ordinances and Churches are ye yet your praise is of men and not of God for you are enemies to the life of the Scriptures as is made appear by your many lies and slanders against us which you have uttered and I say returen your minds every one within to that in your own consciences which reproves you in secret for your secret iniquities it wil let you see where your hearts are and how far they are mortified to the world and the love of it and this light wherewith every one of you is lightned is the light of Christ and it is the Lords true witnesse and shall witnesse for him eternally against all whose deeds are evil who walk in disobedience of it and all who love it and walk in it it leads unto Christ and into all purity and holinesse and uprightness of heart towards God and man and this light leads unto justification all them who are taught by it and here is your teacher loving it and your condemnation eternally continuing to hate it And thus I have answered your booke and the truth is witnessed and many false lies and false accusations denied and testified against and thus I rest waiting for an answer to clear your self if you be able of those things which I have denied from you which you have charged upon us for God is my witnesse this I do desire that truth may be made manifest and imbraced and deceit and errour discovered and denied
living God I speak in clearing the innocent from thy false slanders and it shall stand for thy owne condition fleshly corrupt and sensuall minded and the working of the mysterie of iniquity And herein I prove thee to be so by thy fruits thy lies and false reproaches and envious false acusation which is the fruites of the flesh and of corrupt sensuall mindednesse which fruits doth appeare in this thy writing and as for the mysterie of godlinesse it is hidden from thee and in that mind and nature you shall never know it for thou lives in the sight of thy owne pollutions and of thy carnal ordinances and not in the injoyment of the mysterie of Christ which is godlinesse and whereas thou saiest yee may rejoyce and in nothing be terrified because the Scriptures did foretel of such and is fulfilled in these men and thou brings many Scriptures where Christ and the Apostles prophesied of the coming in of false prophets and teachers I answer Though yee do now rejoyce yet your joy shall be turned into howling and sorrow and the Lord hath said it and the day of terrour will overtake you wherein your hearts shal faile you for feare and your foundation shall be removed and it is true that the Scripture doth foretell of us and is witnessed in us that all the Lords children should be taught of the Lord and that the Lord would gather his flock out of the mouths of all dum be shepherds c. and according to our growth up in the life of the Scriptures they are fulfilled in us but false prophets wee do deny though all those Scriptures which thou hast set downe we owne to be prophesies of false prophets those false prophets which Christ prophesied of came in the Apostles dayes they saw them coming in then 1. Joh. 2. 18. and as all these Scriptures testifies which thou hast cited and since the Apostles daies hath beene a great Apostacie and not a true Church of Christ could be found and ever since hath the same generation of false prophets stood under several forms and appearances deceiving the nations but now the pure light of Christ shines discovering to them who walke in the light who they are and daily more and more clearly shall they be seene and thou wilt be found in their number who art a cursed child in whom the son of perdition is exalted which utters forth thy lies and slanders sensually and make it manifest to all that thou hast not the spirit of God but art separated from it in self separation which is abomination unto God and must be scattered by him and whereas thou saiest seeing it is so let you be filled with boldnesse and let you contend against those ungodly ones which are now risen I answer ungodlinesse wee deny and your boldnesse shall the Lord turne in weaknesse and faintnesse and your contendings against us shall not prosper for this is our heritage every tongue that riseth up in judgement shal be condemned you shall all be scattered and driven away as chaffe before the wind who sets your selves to contend against the truth for that which is now risen shall confound you all And whereas thou brings many Scriptures which were exhortations of the Apostle to the saints with exhorting thy brethren I answer The Scriptures I do owne and that spirit which spake them forth I witnesse but thou art an enemie to the power of them though thou have the forme of truth thy lying and false accusing hath made thee appear to be an enemie to the life which the holy men of God lived in and so hath cleared thy selfe from those Scriptures which were written to the Saints and must owne those which was written to the world the lier must be cast into the lake the wicked must bee turned in hell and such as these must thou owne to belong unto thee and these are thy Scriptures which thou hast right unto And whereas thou saiest wee talke of high enjoyments and great revelations without above and beyond the Scripture and that wee talke of a light which is besides the Scripture but it is deepe and thick darknesse and what hath such lights led men unto even contempt of God and of all righteousnesse I answer Here again thou art found a lier and an accuser of the brethren for what wee do declare the Scripture witnesses to the same and wee speake of nothing but what is declared of in the Scripture by the holy men of God and neither without it nor above or beyond it do wee speake I challenge thee to prove what thou hast asserted and all the City of London that we speak or declares any thing but what the Scriptures bears witnesse to the same and the light which wee declare of is the light of Christ which the scripture saith lightneth every one that comes into the world and it is not besides the scripture so as contrary to it but the scripture bears witnesse of the light and ●ere I charge thee with blasphemie who calles the pure light of Christ thick darknesse and that the light of Christ which is the light which wee declare of hath led men or leads any to contemne God or his ordinances or righteousnesse let shame strike thee in the face thou impudent one who blasphemously say that the light of Christ is thick darkness and leads into contempt of God let the light in thy owne conscience condemne thee thou enemie of God for thy lies and slanders and blasphemie which in this thy booke thou hast uttered and wheras thou exhortest to labour to see an excellency in Christ in the word of Christ and in the Church and Ordinances of Christ I answer For the simple ones sake that they may not be deceived none ever shall see any excellencie in those things but who ownes and walkes in the light of Christ which lets every one see themselves first and your talking of the same and report of Christ and of his Word and Ordinances is not to know the excellencie of those things for death in you talkes of the same but the thing in subst●nce you are ignorant of and you who stumbles at the light wherewith Christ lightneth every one are above the doore which is the entrance unto the life of these things and so I exhort all to mind the light of Christ and to walk in it and it will lead unto Christ from whence the light comes and it wil lead to the fulfilling of Christs words and to the one bread and to the one baptisme and the light is the door and entrance unto the life of those things but you who hate the light and denies it to be in every one hath but the huske and outward declaration of those things and are without the life and wheras thou saist they that are of God wil hear John Peter and Paul and the rest that were the servants of Christ not the fleshly conceits of those or any other men Christs sheep