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A94142 Tvvo letters: the one to subtile papist: the other to a zealous Presbyterian. In both which the authour conceives he hath said enough to keepe any man from the Roman Church, in the generall of religion, and from the Presbyterian congregation in the particular of the eucharist, or the Lords Supper: because St Paul saies, 1 Cor. 11. 16. Wee know no such custome, neither the Church of God. By T. Swadling, D.D. Swadlin, Thomas, 1600-1670. 1653 (1653) Wing S6230; Thomason E712_1; ESTC R207131 21,573 32

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this conclusion follow upon your premises or if you do not draw it against reason your Maior a supposition an unlikely if not an impossible supposition your Minor I think St. Paul would not your Conclusion therfore much lesse would he Well sir I shall not further commend your skill in Logick I shall onely help you to a better argument from your owne instance Upon what termes and in what way Saint Paul administred the Sacrament at Corinth upon the same termes and in the same way may Mr. administer the Sacrament at But upon exhortation and Information in a generall and promiscuous way did Saint Paul administer the Sacrament at Corinth Therefore upon Exhortation and Information in a generall and promiscuous way may Mr. administer the Sacrament at and this your next Instance will not gaine-say Opponent O but charity thinketh well 1. Cor. 13.5 and therefore you ought to make the best of your brother and not the worst The word will very well bear plotteth no ill in his minde against his brother Respond By the way you know the word will not bear it neither in the Latine nor Greek neither in the Latine Cogito or Meditor nor in the Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 either of these words may signifie to consider to purpose to cast in mind but to Plot ill they signifie not and you are willing to wave and therefore you say Opponent But let it be taken for Suspecting his brother guilty of evill This t is true Charity will not doe where there is not just ground and cause for it If that grace of Charity work jealousies and evill surmisings concerning my brother it will not dwell in me but upon manifest ground and warrant I may suffer them to arise and consistent enough are they with that true grace of Charity in my heart If I know that such or such a man followes the pot gives himselfe ordinarily to wound and slander the good name of his neighbour that sets no watch before the door of his lips whose Religion is vain saies Iames that doth not read Scripture in his Family nor catechise and instruct his Family in the saving Principles of Iesus Christ nor pray constantly with his Family To swear by his Faith and Troth is ordinary in his discourse his tongue is so used to 't that he cannot forbear it in the company of his Minister If I certainly know a man living in any one of these or any other sinne name what you will the Charity which is of God will never forbid me to think evill of him I may think and if I be call'd to 't say that as yet Christ is not in him and that he is unworthy to be a guest at the Lords table till such time a Divine change and amendment appear in his conversation as his sin hath done Respond Confident enough but not concluding enough For though he live in any one of these sinnes yet it may be none of these sinnes live in him and the Apostles rule is observed where he saies Nè regnet not Nè sit Let not sinne reign in your mortall body Rom 6.12 he doth not say let not sinne be in your mortal body Be there it will so long as we be here in the very best of us all But be it admitted for your sake that the man lives in the sinne and the sinne lives in the man because you say If I know such a man followes the pot c. yet it is but for this time it may be untill the day or night before he come to receive the Lords supper you know not what a change what a Repentance what a godly sorrow God hath in that day or night wrought in him will you because this change doth not appeare in him account him unworthy and therefore forbid him the Lords Table and therefore force him from the Lords As the text you have quoted saies Charity thinks no ill i. e. It works no jealousies and evill surmisings concerning my brother according to your Exposition which Exposition I wish you had forborne for your Masters sakes So if you read two verses further which is within the Context you shall finde too Charity hopes the best your knowing him to follow those sinnes may work you to suspect him I will not say for want of Charity but I will say your ignorance or not knowing of this change in him may not move you to reject him if you have the hope of Charity But be it once more admitted for your sake That such a Change is not That noe change is wrought in the man what then why then he is unworthy to come to the Lords Table but it is not then your duty to put him or keepe him from that Table and therefore you are to blame by this and much more to blame by the Verdict of your next Instance Opponent But if men come to you and acknowledge such sinns they have lived in and say they are sorry for them why should not you believe they are reall 't is true repentance and so admit them Doubtlesse in that case wee are not to deny the truth of their repentance nor yet take it for granted upon their bare words but ought to desire them to hold forth that change in life and the graces contrary to his former vices and withall tell him that if this should be nothing but meer words and pretences that then he did eat and drink damnation to himself whereof the Minister too would be guilty But if his repentance be sound If a saving change and Faith be wrought in him it canno● be unsafe or prejudiciall to him to forbear that Ordinance a little while because he may feed upon Christ and derive his comforts and vertues from his death by the lively working of Faith without the Elements 'T is not the want but contempt of the signes that hinders our partaking of Christ and his benefits and his forbearing for the Ministers or churches sake being great humility and self-denyall would doubtlesse be considered of God who would make up the losse of the Elements immediately by himself or spirit and double comforts to him when his conversation shall commend him to that table for a worthy receiver Respond Sir you have spoken much truth in this Paragraph but you have exprest little charity shewn much Schisme and hinted a grain of Heresie if other men had not Charity enough to believe the best of you Heresie it is to deny the Spirit of God to be God you do not deny it but you intimate it else why doe you say God would by himself or Spirit as if himselfe and Spirit were two several things but I believe the best of you you are not an Heretick I wish you were not a Schismatick but I must tell you you goe against the generall Custome of the Universall Church which hath alwaies willingly and chearfully admitted that man to receive who is penitent vos autem non sic and you observe not